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[02:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc81750a80153: Major reword of changing time] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc81750a80153
[03:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL13b52f64cef2: Properly style RTC is in local time checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL13b52f64cef2
[03:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdf447bb68aed: Properly label timezone tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdf447bb68aed
[03:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9a9042465f09: Add cancel button to date and time] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9a9042465f09
[03:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0bc797834762: Label open button in libreoffice impress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0bc797834762
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL140d78a55fe8: Add how to sort slides in slidesorter mode] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL140d78a55fe8
[04:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6dab92636b75: Style keyboard shortcuts of loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6dab92636b75
[04:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL40824c1d98bf: Add loimpresss toggle bullets] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL40824c1d98bf
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 wxl @tsimonq2 we should include qapt-deb-installer for deb packages
 it's already in the repositories
 Ok
 after that we should change the mimeapp list
 @HMollerCl [after that we should change the mimeapp list], Noted.
 Cool
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Noted.], 👍
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 @HMollerCl i believe you wanted to relay something here of some importance regarding LibreOffice?  :P
[19:23] <wxl> @HMollerCl re: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122752 but isn't that going to mean bad looking UX? or am i confused?
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
 Yes, filepicker or file save dialog
 Only that is affected
[19:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL18c66fe35b7f: Add increase/decrease paragraph spacing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL18c66fe35b7f
 The problem is that kde5 file save dialog is incomplete in non-plasma, it doesn't add file extension and other small things
 Gtk3 works ok
[19:28] <wxl> didn't that bug say they'd be using qt5 for non-plasma?
[19:29] <wxl> oic nevermind it's "not really usable"
 Yes, it's buggy
[19:31] <wxl> ok well i guess we need to watch the progress of qt5 then. sigh.
[19:31] <lynorian> With 19.04 coming out I will need to figure out how to do mutliple versions of the manual
[19:32] <wxl> there's a ticket for that. it's going to take some custom work
[19:33] <wxl> la
[19:33] <wxl> oops
 ECHAAAN
[19:33] <wxl> nope
[19:34] <wxl> you ECHAN'd the wrong chan XD
 @wxl [<wxl> you ECHAN'd the wrong chan XD], XD
[19:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL070f12d014d2: Add menu way to insert image] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL070f12d014d2
 @wxl [<wxl> ok well i guess we need to watch the progress of qt5 then. sigh.], Yes, and adjust seed repository accordingly (add/leave lo-gtk3 remove lo-kde5). Btw I uploaded a change to seed https://phab.lubuntu.me/D58 to add qapt-deb-installer
[19:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] added qapt-deb-installer: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D58
[19:42] <wxl> i saw, briefly.. busy weekend for me (swim meet)
 Should I wait for his approval before making the lo changes? Or I can do it now?
[19:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2ed64a94a8dd: Add 1.5 line spacing and how to get back to single line spacing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2ed64a94a8dd
[20:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe9312fe20ff6: Fix warning] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe9312fe20ff6
[20:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL62c32f6885a0: Add libreoffice impress format --> character screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL62c32f6885a0
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[21:31] <wxl> hey can anyone check bug 1799855 and see if they also get the same results as Chris, with the 6 packages changed? his results are a little bit weird because of his mirror requirements and i want to double check.
 I sent you a message over the weekend. I can dig it up when I get home.
[21:33] <wxl> oh yeah i was kind of half paying attention this weekend
[21:33] <wxl> if you have any results, even if they're confusing, i'd post them on the bug report
[21:33] <wxl> helps when everything is in the same place XD
 Yeah on my phone right now. I have it on my desktop at home.
[21:34] <wxl> no prob.
 The only weird thing I remember was the onscreen keyboard was present on the sddm login.
[21:36] <wxl> oh thta's right
[21:36] <wxl> you're using english and all that?
[21:36] <wxl> standard keyboard layout?
 Yes I am.
[21:37] <wxl> i've seen that pop up occassionally in the past (with lxde) and i've never been able to reproduce so i don't know :/
 America/New York
[21:37] <wxl> did you happen to capture the results of the process? i'm really curious about the number of packages changed
 Not sure what I have, I can pull the log.
 Still have the VM.
[21:38] <wxl> k. stick it on the bug report
 Will do.
[21:38] <wxl> thx :)
 I was just wondering why does lubuntu has featherpad as default text editor and not gedit? I the later one is more popular and many users would love to have a familiar app in lubuntu. Also, leafpad was also nice why changed from it?
[21:57] <wxl> because it requires gtk libs
[21:57] <wxl> in both cases
[21:57] <wxl> remember, lx*qt*
 @wxl [<wxl> because it requires gtk libs], 👍🏻
 I personally prefer featherpad over gedit.
[21:58] <wxl> i really like kate, but i really don't use graphical text editors
 @wxl [<wxl> in both cases], And so does sublime i guess. But you anyway can't put it coz license issues
[21:59] <wxl> sublime is yucky XD
 @wxl [<wxl> i really like kate, but i really don't use graphical text editors], I use sublime mostly but if in a hurry then nano.
[21:59] <wxl> oh god don't get me started on nano
 @wxl [<wxl> sublime is yucky XD], Sublime is louuuvv!!
[21:59] <wxl> but to each their own :)
 @wxl [<wxl> but to each their own :)], Yup! Agreed.
 For graphical editors Kate is pretty nice. I typically use vim because it is everywhere and comfy at this point.
[22:01] <wxl> ^^^
[22:01] <wxl> you can ssh anywhere and use vim
 For me nano is for small edits and stuff. I use sublime when I write long stuff. And as it also keeps files open across restarts, I keep a running file called random.txt and put in all my ideas, to-dos, etc.
 @wxl [<wxl> you can ssh anywhere and use vim], I can't exit vim 😂😂
[22:02] <wxl> the problem with nano is: messy interface, not very productive
 That is the meme
[22:02]  * wxl facepalms
[22:02] <wxl> last time i used nano i had the same problem
 For bulkier editors I prefer Geany
[22:02] <wxl> sometimes easy is.. too easy
 @HMollerCl [For bulkier editors I prefer Geany], Will surely look it up.
[22:03] <wxl> i like emacs........ when working with lisp
[22:03] <wxl> (and with vim keybindings)
 It turns into muscle memory at some point.
[22:03] <wxl> btw @The_LoudSpeaker [Esc] ZZ is your way to save and quit
 @wxl [<wxl> i like emacs........ when working with lisp], I had tried it somewhere, i don't remember exactly but didn't like it.
 @wxl [<wxl> btw @The_LoudSpeaker [Esc] ZZ is your way to save and quit], Yup! Had to Google that after trying for an hour!
[22:04] <wxl> most real editors require some effort to get configured the way you want. i've never seen a single one that came out of the box just right4
[22:04] <wxl> next time: `man vim` XD
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Will surely look it up.], it's gtk also, but has all this things like showing all the functions on the sidebar
 @wxl [<wxl> most real editors require some effort to get configured the way you want. …], Yup! But for me sublime is almost perfect, just needs the git gutter.
 in my redhat 6.1 days I used plain vi esc:q! and other
[22:05] <wxl> yeah.. plain vi is tough when you get used to heavily tweaked vim
 ^^
[22:05] <wxl> of course to be consistent you mean [Esc] :wq! :)
 hahhaa, right!
 On a more bulkier side, ms vs code is also good.
[22:06] <wxl> really the only thing to understand with vim is that there are the different modes. once you get that, the rest is kind of easy.
[22:06] <wxl> wuzzat?
[22:06] <wxl> (btw we should probably take this convo to offtopic)
 @wxl [<wxl> really the only thing to understand with vim is that there are the differe …], Yup! I will surely give vim a fair chance.
 @wxl [<wxl> (btw we should probably take this convo to offtopic)], Yup!
 why in seeds some packages are between parenthesis () and some with exclamation sign !  before?
[23:36] <wxl> for which?
[23:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfe8e7fe01ec1: Add symbols dialog box] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfe8e7fe01ec1
[23:45] <wxl> oh didn't see the word seeds
[23:45] <wxl> if i remember correctly ! is an exclude and () is a recommend
[23:49] <wxl> yep https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/cosmic/en/man1/germinate.1.html
[23:49] <wxl> ^^ @HMollerCl
[23:50] <teward> wxl: can i bother you to help me test something?
[23:50] <wxl> probably
[23:50] <teward> see secret room where I pinged you