=== _thumper_ is now known as thumper [02:02] Wow. gnome-shell is really leaky on disco on (at least) the nvidia drivers at the moment. [02:02] Also really slow :( === pitti is now known as pitti` === pitti` is now known as pitti === doko_ is now known as doko [07:07] good morning desktoppers [07:10] good morning [07:10] salut didrocks [07:10] salut oSoMoN === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski [08:29] Bonjour tout le monde [08:29] salut jibel, ça va ? Besoin d'aide pour l'iso testing ? [08:30] didrocks, ça va. [08:31] didrocks, I need tests on real hardware with nvidia or i915 [08:31] didrocks, and uefi + sb [08:31] with nvidia [08:31] I covered other tests on vms [08:33] hum, I can a live session on nvidia, but I don't have partitionned for my main machine to have dual install [08:35] didrocks, okay, so don't waste your time on this. I need a real installation to verify that the drivers are enabled after installation [08:37] oki, that's what I guessed [08:42] good morning desktopers [08:43] o/ [08:44] hey Wimpress, re seb128 [08:44] re didrocks :) [08:44] hey Wimpress jibel [08:45] salut seb128 [08:45] lut oSoMoN, en forme ? [08:45] salut jibel, hey Wimpress [08:46] la forme oui, pas beaucoup dormi mais ici il fait un temps de printemps et ça donne de l’énergie [08:46] et toi? === rc0mbs is now known as rcombs [08:57] ça va, un peu fatigué aussi mais j'ai bien profité du w.e :) [09:02] hark [09:03] hey Laney, how are you? [09:03] hey seb128 [09:04] I'm alright thx, seems like a nice pre-spring day! [09:04] you? good day off? [09:04] yeah, we went to the spa, that was nice [09:04] cucumber on the eyes and all that [09:04] * Laney pictures it [09:09] hey Laney [09:12] 👋 didrocks [09:40] seb128: We have some issue with systemd-240, first one is this....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1815493 [09:40] Ubuntu bug 1815493 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Disable mlockall() call for systemd-240" [Critical,Confirmed] [09:41] I saw that in the backlog yesterday evening [09:41] did you try to grab Robert about it? [09:42] yes, I couldn't reach him.....in the issue he said he is prepared to remove those... [09:42] 2nd issue is we can't logout with gnome-session [09:43] reproducible with flashback session as well [09:43] why not? [09:43] since when? [09:43] since systemd-240 [09:44] "fun" [09:44] ystemctl --user start --wait gnome-session-flashback.target just hangs and can't reach greeter after logout.......do u know anything similar ? [09:44] *systemctl [09:45] same for unity-session.target [09:46] I've no idea about that one [09:49] muktupavels pointed out this but reverting that didn't help.....https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/109b0cbf24443b54109a1b6dac010bdf3b96d93c#diff-69ea3a0848eb29638bc663cf16af1b2d [09:51] loginctl terminate-session works though [09:52] it needs debugging [09:53] unsure about the mlockall thing, I don't understand enough why that was added [09:53] but it looks like neither Robert not mterry remember [09:54] so it's probably fine to drop, I would still like to have the security team opinion on it [09:55] I asked them for feedback [09:58] journalctl -f doesn't show much....https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6hFYcKbVKn/......the issue is systed doesn't print anything even with LogLevel=debug when --wait fails [10:17] good morning! [10:18] hey andyrock [12:06] seb128: hi, is it time to open up translations in LP for disco? [12:19] jbicha, we should yes, thx for the reminder, I will take care of that === Saviq is now known as ricab|test === ricab|test is now known as Saviq [13:31] Trevinho: hi, any news about compiz? === mitya57_ is now known as mitya57 [14:06] jbicha: thanks for making the modifications! dh-sequence-* are interesting, didn't know they existed [14:07] jbicha: are you planning to sync it? Maybe I'll wait for that upload to promote, wdyt? [14:08] it will autosync [14:09] the dh-sequence is very new, it will only work in disco https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/dh#OPTIONS [14:10] interesting, quite puzzling to have an unexisting package in build-deps :) [14:10] it does exist :) [14:10] the dh provider has to manually add a Provides: to enable the feature, see https://launchpadlibrarian.net/409834438/pkgbinarymangler_143_144.diff.gz [14:10] so you could do that for dh-migrations if you wanted [14:11] yeah, so it's a virtual package, not a real one, correct? [14:11] yes [14:11] (that was my "it doesn't really exists" ;) [14:11] ok, we agree [14:11] :) :) [14:11] yeah, good idea for dh-migrations, adding on my list [14:13] oh, I missed Go 1.12 RC1 is out! \o/ [14:13] it technically needs debhelper 12 to work too (although it could use a lower compat level) [14:13] (RC means that Google is running it internally by default) [14:14] jbicha: ah, you didn't bump dh build-dep though? [14:14] like build-dep on debhelper 12, even if keeping compat level 11 [14:14] yeah, oops [14:14] yes [14:14] not a biggie, I think just stage it [14:15] practically, it's unlikely to have a system with an older debhelper and the new provides, but people do weird things with ppas and such [14:16] exactly, hence only staging it [14:17] I generally avoided bumping debhelper compat to 12 for library packages just to be extra cautious until Buster is released [14:24] didrocks: btw, for Debian GNOME packages, you'll need to manually run dh_gnome_clean (or otherwise update debian/control) if you switch to dh-sequence-gnome [14:25] ah, the hook doesn't do it for you? [14:26] it doesn't know how [14:26] if you drop --with gnome and ** debian/control ** doesn't yet say dh-sequence-gnome, it won't run the dh_gnome stuff [14:27] okidoki [14:27] so that's just the first time to bootstrap stuff, after that things work well [14:27] gotcha [14:30] ok, meeting time! [14:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-02-12 [14:30] Meeting started Tue Feb 12 14:30:28 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Meeting 2019-02-12 | Current topic: [14:30] Roll call: andyrock, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [14:30] o/ [14:30] hey hey o/ [14:31] o/ [14:31] \o [14:31] helloo [14:31] 👽/ [14:31] tseliot, tjaalton, sorry, I copied the list from previous week and seems that didn't include you [14:31] k, look like we have most of the team, let's get started [14:32] #topic rls bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Meeting 2019-02-12 | Current topic: rls bugs [14:32] the incoming lists [14:32] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html [14:32] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html [14:32] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html [14:33] bb has no desktop entry (also good to see that page small, is that a bug or a result of foundations finally dealing with their tagged bugs?) [14:33] cc has no desktop entry [14:33] I think bug 1772811 is already targetted [14:34] bug 1772811 in OEM Priority Project "different behaviors for switch display mode between xenial and bionic" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772811 [14:34] that's the disco one [14:34] Trevinho, can you assign it to yourself? [14:34] it's because it's not assigned in mutter [14:35] right [14:35] ok [14:35] easy to fix, thx Marco [14:35] tracking lists [14:36] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:36] so same one we just discussed [14:36] bug #1767660 [14:36] bug 1767660 in libinput (Ubuntu Bionic) "Regression 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS: Contour Design RollerMouse double click button no longer results in a double click event" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767660 [14:37] tjaalton, ^ opinion on that one? [14:38] to be it doesn't seem important enough to use team tracking [14:38] it doesn't prevent people to work on it/SRU [14:38] I vote -wontfix [14:38] other opinions? [14:38] -notfixing I mean [14:39] sure, don't know if that works for accepted bugs though, might have to won't fix the task [14:39] right, that's a bit annoying [14:39] do we still have that launchpad bug that if I delete the bionic line we can't add it back ever? [14:40] you can add it back [14:40] dunno [14:40] k, let me delete the line then and tag [14:40] no opinion on whether that's better or worse than closing the bug task [14:40] seems you prefer that, so fine [14:41] it's annoying that LP doesn't show fixed bugs in search results by default so it makes it tough for people to find bugs that still affect them on the LTS release [14:41] bug #1777994 [14:42] bug 1777994 in libxcb (Ubuntu Bionic) "the header xcb/xinput.h is missing" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1777994 [14:42] that one has been uploaded apparently, so setting fix commited [14:42] bug #1799614 [14:42] bug 1799614 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Use new media API" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1799614 [14:42] assigning that one to Robert [14:43] that's it for bionic [14:43] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:43] that has the same snapd-glib one for Robert and that's it [14:43] seb128: robert knows about that and said he would ask about it. [14:44] kenvandine, he should assign himself targetted bugs so they don't end up having to be reviewed [14:44] snapd has an exception and this is to track snapd changes [14:44] yeah [14:44] thx [14:44] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:45] that has bug #1772811 which we already discussed [14:45] bug 1772811 in OEM Priority Project "different behaviors for switch display mode between xenial and bionic" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772811 [14:45] and that's it [14:45] #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Meeting 2019-02-12 | Current topic: update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [14:45] Laney, your turn :) [14:45] k [14:45] hello folks, any preseeding guru here ? [14:46] The following packages have unmet dependencies. [14:46] emacs-common : Breaks: edb (< 1.32) but 1.31-3 is to be installed [14:46] good old emacs [14:46] talx, hey, we are in the middle of our weekly team meeting, please stand by 10 min or so (or use #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-installer) [14:46] I can have a look to emacs/edb [14:47] seb128, okay would you pme if you can when its over? [14:47] talx, sure [14:47] there's some archive admin stuff [14:47] gnome-control-center/gvfs [14:48] and the others need looking at basically [14:48] I can deal with the archive admin things [14:49] k, let's quickly review/find owners for the other ones [14:49] jbicha, gnome-desktop3 ftbfs, are you getting anywhere with that? [14:50] or do you need help? [14:50] it has been there for almost a week [14:50] (imho dealing with breaking from existing uploads should be higher priority than stacking more updates) [14:50] tjaalton, is the mesa/armhf ftbfs on your list? (impacts Debian as well I think) [14:51] seb128: gnome-desktop is a brand new test so technically not a regression [14:51] network-manbager/ppc64el is annoying, I can try to have a look [14:51] jbicha, regression or not it failed to build so that's not going to work [14:51] we can't hint/skip ftbfses [14:52] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop3/3.31.90-1ubuntu1 [14:52] seb128: yes, upstream knows [14:52] I was implying we could temporarily skip that broken test until we figure out what's going with Hebrew stuff [14:52] tjaalton, ok, thx [14:52] is "until" ever going to happen? [14:52] jbicha, did you upstream that failure? [14:52] do you need help debugging? [14:52] let's discuss it here after the meeting [14:53] but best to fix rather than skip [14:53] yes, I'd like to argue with the notion that tests are OK to ignore just because they're new [14:54] +1 [14:54] especially if coming to cover a new feature IMHO [14:54] k, that's consensus to not skip [14:54] or an experienced regression [14:54] let's discuss it in a bit with those interested [14:55] I'll look at udisks2 a bit, annoyed that is so bad on ppc64el [14:56] librsvg seems like it's green on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#gobject-introspection so I guess outdated report [14:56] thx Laney [14:56] tracker is faiing on armhf/64 , who wants to have a look to that one? [14:57] 'Aborted (core dumped)' [14:57] looks like a real issue [14:57] seb128: gobject-introspection is very new, I think it may pass if retried [14:58] ah, librsvg dropped now after a reload, good :p [14:58] jbicha, that isn't on the list? [14:58] ah, it's under foundations [14:58] well the tracker issue on arm looks real [14:58] I retried g-i [14:59] hum, in fact from the history seems sometime it's ok [14:59] thx Laney [14:59] tracker could do with someone looking, yeah [14:59] I can try to at least get a bt of that abort and upstream that [14:59] could be me but maybe somebody who doesn't normally take these issues might want to look :-) [15:00] k [15:01] * Laney coughs [15:01] so I think we reviewed the list? [15:01] no-one seems to want to step up for tracker :( [15:01] maybe we need to start more direct assignements, going to discuss that with willcooke [15:01] anyway [15:02] team topic for next week [15:02] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Meeting 2019-02-12 | Current topic: AOB [15:02] thx [15:02] yes, good idea [15:02] if you're not at the meeting you get to avoid those assignments [15:02] (tracker might just be flaky) [15:02] flaky is something worth fixing :) [15:02] some people are never at the meeting [15:02] indeed [15:04] k, 30s for AOB topics [15:05] seems not, let's wrap then [15:05] thanks team! [15:06] thanks! [15:06] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently [15:06] Meeting ended Tue Feb 12 15:06:01 2019 UTC. [15:06] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-02-12-14.30.moin.txt [15:06] thx [15:06] thanks [15:06] ty [15:06] jbicha, so can you can give some more context on that hebrew test? [15:06] zyga: i've merged that gtk-common-themes fix [15:07] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/tree/master/tests [15:07] zyga: i'll get it in candidate today and let hang out there a couple days for testing [15:07] so there is https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/commit/f3ca0e4d794 [15:08] but there is also https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/merge_requests/27 [15:08] GNOME issue (Merge request) 27 in gnome-desktop "WIP: po: Update Hebrew translation" [8. Translation, Opened] [15:12] I talked with the tracker maintainer yesterday and he expects to do a tracker 2.2 release in the next few days (perhaps a bit beta-ish) [15:13] I wouldn't spend too much time on tracker 2.1 now since 2.2 had a lot of improvements (thanks Andy!) with tests and some code reorganization [15:14] I'm still waiting for review on some tracker changes [15:14] also I forgot to push the port to python3 for functional test [15:14] I'll try to do it asap [15:14] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/merge_requests/54 [15:14] andyrock: he was talking about releasing this week, thanks :) [15:14] GNOME issue (Merge request) 54 in tracker "Fix several memory leaks and memory corruptions" [Opened] [15:15] jbicha, k, makes sense [15:15] jbicha: if that MP is not merged we need to distro-patch at least this commit https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/merge_requests/54/diffs?commit_id=a7be8e9cc19bb53867d28e323fd2da32073e48cf [15:15] GNOME issue (Merge request) 54 in tracker "Fix several memory leaks and memory corruptions" [Opened] [15:19] andyrock, maybe you can nag Carlos about reviewing it? [15:20] kenvandine: thank you [15:21] zyga: it's in edge now if you want to try it [15:27] Trevinho: hey, have you been involved in the Remmina snap? [15:31] kenvandine, he did write the yaml iirc [15:32] hmm [15:33] i heard they've been getting bug reports and have some issues they need help with [15:33] seb128: i've offered to help [15:34] but wanted to see if Trevinho had any insight into the issues, they were vague [15:34] and i heard they've talked to Trevinho already [15:36] kenvandine, thx [15:44] didrocks: Hi, the mps we talked about for ubuntu-themes and settings ? [15:45] seb128: btw tracker passed on retry [15:45] k [15:46] if at first test don't succeed, (re)try, (re)try again [15:46] good motto eh [15:47] some tests seem to pass better when the autopkgtest infrastructure isn't heavily loaded. That means that uploading a heavy package like g-i will get more failures on first try :| [15:50] for gnome-desktop, there's also https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/blob/master/.gitlab-ci.yml so it looks like the test does work on Fedora Rawhide [15:51] the Hebrew isn't being translated properly, you can see the .png's in the meson-logs/ in your build directory [15:51] real systems are often heavily loaded [15:51] k_alam: yes, what about them? [15:51] and we only talked about ubuntu-themes AFAIK [15:52] kenvandine: thank you! :-) [15:53] didrocks: I have assigned you for ubuntu-settings too... [15:54] is this ok ? [15:55] k_alam: assigning specific people probably isn't necessary [15:55] k_alam: interesting, if you have just done it, I didn't receive the LP email yet [15:55] unless you don't want anyone else to look at it :) [15:55] but yeah, I can give a look at the same time than -themes [15:56] k_alam: you didn't assign it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~didrocks/+assignedbugs [15:57] didrocks: no I mean, as a reviewer [15:57] seb128: are we going to get rygel & co dealt by security this cycle? I think I'll unassign until it's OK ;) [15:58] k_alam: got it [15:58] jbicha: ha ha but no [15:58] I didn't receive any email [15:58] but found it [15:58] andyrock: maybe LP: #1815317 is for you? [15:58] Launchpad bug 1815317 in gnome-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "Update gnome-online-accounts to 3.31.90" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815317 [15:59] jbicha: kk [15:59] didrocks: And one more if didn't not get mail for that as well...https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/+git/ubuntu-settings/+merge/362989 [16:00] oki [16:01] didrocks: Thanks. [16:10] didrocks, I doubt it's going to be this cycle at this point [16:12] ok, I'll unassign from those bugs to clean up my list [16:12] wfm, I still have on my todo to do the multiarch thing [16:12] but yeah, security is taking a while, I mention that at fosdem [16:14] yep, the multi-arch is still pending ;) [16:16] I keep saying "this week" but I hate those paperwork tasks :p [16:16] * seb128 should really do that [16:16] also I'm unsure to properly test that I'm not breaking something by doing it [16:16] oh well, next week I do it :) [16:22] andyrock, btw I think you commented on a bug like that one before, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1810382 ... do you know how the code hide the "write a review" button for snaps? it's clearly not working for that user but I don't know what debug info would be useful, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/410601843/Screenshot%20from%202019-02-09%2020-39-05.png [16:22] Ubuntu bug 1810382 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Gnome software error posting a review for snap app " [Low,New] [16:23] seb128: let me check [16:24] thx [16:37] seb128: mmm maybe the problem is that since https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/commit/e54b31cc85ddef6f9579cb85bbdf53dbb9d9091d are no longer NOT_REVIEWABLE [16:38] from the journal logs linked in the bug it looks like ubuntu-reviews plugin is still in cosmic and odrs plugin is disabled [16:39] seb128: I'll comment on the bug, asking robert to confirm this [16:43] seb128: commented [16:43] let's see if robert answers [16:44] anybody feeling need for anacron/cron these days with systemd timers? [17:04] gQuigs: Debian GNOME is removing anacron from default install for Buster [17:08] jbicha: linky? my search foo is failing me [17:08] gQuigs: https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/meta-gnome3/commits/debian/master [17:09] we would have uploaded by now but the gjs/s390x removal is still being annoying in Debian [17:10] ty! [17:18] will start a thread on -dev-discuss... [17:37] seb128: I'm close-ish to a fix on gnome-desktop, it's environment variables that were interfering === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:41] jbicha, @gnome-desktop, great :) [19:43] andyrock, thx, indeed we use odrs only in disco atm, but I though that in cosmic when I tested on friday I didn't have the review button for snaps :/ [19:44] kenvandine, can you make sure Robert sees https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1810382/comments/8 ? [19:44] Ubuntu bug 1810382 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Gnome software error posting a review for snap app " [Low,Triaged] [19:45] seb128: sure [19:45] thx [19:45] kenvandine, btw I read from your weekly summary that you/Olivier made progress on debugging the gtk build issue, what was it? [19:48] gdk-pixbuf-pixdata built in the snap was linked against the system libgdkpixbuf [19:48] not sure what the actual fix was, oSoMoN is still working on it [21:03] seb128, there are in fact multiple issues and I haven't finished addressing them all, the gdk-pixbuf-pixdata one was the first error, I solved it with https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-3-28-1804-sdk/commit/49d40114626a6788d83e3e4cba28913b42126c8f [21:07] mitya57: done https://code.launchpad.net/compiz [22:33] jbicha, did you see my comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1815504 btw? [22:33] Ubuntu bug 1815504 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Coordinate Yaru sound theme with GNOME 3.32 Alert Sound feature" [Low,Confirmed]