| jbicha | fossfreedom: gnome-shell/gdm3 is back on your iso because of notification-daemon this time | 00:29 |
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| RAOF | /msg robert_ancell Hey, could you kindly ping me on telegram? I'd like to make sure I can actually receive messages before arriving at the sprint :) | 01:58 |
| sarnold | /msg RAOF I'm not sure your irc client is your friend :) | 02:01 |
| RAOF | sarnold: The perils of bridging to Matrix ☺ | 02:01 |
| sarnold | RAOF: curious, I didn't expect that.. | 02:02 |
| RAOF | It's possible that a more mature client than Fractal would have picked the /msg up and translated it. | 02:03 |
| JanC | is matrix or any matrix client supposed to interpret IRC commands at all? | 02:07 |
| ahayzen | https://riot.im/app does interpret some commands | 02:08 |
| RAOF | Riot has its own set of commands. | 02:08 |
| RAOF | Yeah, | 02:08 |
| JanC | I mean, the fact that matrix bridges to IRC doesn't mean it has to have the same UI | 02:08 |
| jbicha | lol | 02:34 |
| jbicha | I'm just glad that it wasn't anything more sensitive! | 02:35 |
| RAOF | I'd be checking more thorourgly for something more sensitive than “give us a ping to test my notification settings” ☺ | 02:53 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:42 |
| jibel | Salut didrocks | 07:45 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 07:46 |
| didrocks | good semi-off day? :) | 07:46 |
| jibel | didrocks, I don't think that driving to Paris can be described as "good" :) Kids were taking the train for holidays | 07:50 |
| didrocks | oh, indeed :p | 07:56 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 09:00 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 09:01 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme ? | 09:01 |
| Laney | sup | 09:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va, et toi ? | 09:02 |
| didrocks | Laney: hey hey | 09:02 |
| seb128 | ça va bien | 09:02 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 09:03 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 09:08 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 09:08 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, en forme ? | 09:14 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 09:14 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128, fatigué mais ce soir je suis en week-end | 09:14 |
| oSoMoN | et toi? | 09:14 |
| seb128 | bon courage alors :) | 09:14 |
| seb128 | ça va, mais un peu mal à la gorge depuis hier | 09:14 |
| Laney | hey didrocks seb128 oSoMoN | 09:14 |
| seb128 | j'espère m'en débarrasser avant dimanche | 09:14 |
| oSoMoN | hey Laney | 09:15 |
| Laney | omg someone's encrypted the channel again | 09:15 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, en effet il vaut mieux être en pleine forme pour attaquer un sprint | 09:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, the key is public, you can decrypt! | 09:17 |
| * seb128 hands Laney un dictionnaire de la langue française | 09:17 | |
| Laney | if it comes with croissant, I'm happy | 09:18 |
| seb128 | au chocolat? | 09:18 |
| * seb128 hides from Didier | 09:18 | |
| Laney | :D | 09:19 |
| didrocks | pfffff | 09:19 |
| didrocks | pffffff | 09:19 |
| didrocks | pfffffff | 09:19 |
| didrocks | pffffffff | 09:19 |
| didrocks | pfffffffff! | 09:19 |
| didrocks | Laney: how did you decipher what seb128 told btw? That was encrypted as well :p | 09:20 |
| seb128 | lalala | 09:20 |
| Laney | $ gpg --list-secret-keys | 09:20 |
| Laney | [ tasty food here ] | 09:20 |
| jibel | the UX of the new version of control-center is terrible | 09:53 |
| jibel | and it crashes when I click on details | 09:53 |
| jibel | then I cannot launch it again meh :( | 09:54 |
| Laney | the second part is https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/285, which is fixed upstream and the bug also contains a command you can use to be able to run it again | 10:01 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 285 in gnome-control-center "crash in the info panel" [1. Crash, 6. Component: Info, Closed] | 10:01 |
| seb128 | bug #1814949 on the launchpad side | 10:05 |
| ubot5 | bug 1814949 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center refuses to open if you try to open the Details panels" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814949 | 10:05 |
| seb128 | what's the problem with the UX? | 10:05 |
| * Laney wonders what the point of rls-dd-incoming on that is when jbicha has the ability to fix it | 10:07 | |
| jibel | main panel is almost empty until you resize the window depending on the panel, when you go to applications you cannot go package, sound panel has too many items, that's 2 min of using it before it crashes and I cannot open it anymore | 10:14 |
| jibel | go back* | 10:22 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure ot understand the resize thing, applications is a new panel and probably not that useful atm for us since it's flatpak centric (though Robert has a card o make it work iwth snaps) | 10:22 |
| seb128 | the crash is an unfornate regression from the new glib, those happens in the unstable cycle | 10:23 |
| seb128 | & it's being handled | 10:23 |
| seb128 | if you find the new sound panel design too 'busy' please report upstream, I'm sure they welcome feedback | 10:24 |
| seb128 | it fits better than the old design imho, doesn't mean it's perfect | 10:24 |
| jibel | in this case the release should have been postponed until glib is fixed | 10:24 |
| jibel | or whatever is broken between glib and g-c-c | 10:24 |
| seb128 | it's not like the "details" panel was an essential feature and worth revertingglib over | 10:25 |
| seb128 | we don't block stabilization of important OS pieces over things noone really needs | 10:25 |
| seb128 | like I don't think arguing that glib should be blocked over/revert because the info panel of settings is having an issue | 10:25 |
| seb128 | + makes sense | 10:26 |
| seb128 | it would be detrimental to the release quality imho and conterproductive | 10:26 |
| seb128 | you loose days/weeks of important testing for a panel which has no issue, come on | 10:26 |
| jibel | the problem is not the panel, you cannot launch g-c-c again after it crashes | 10:27 |
| seb128 | the workaround is easy | 10:27 |
| seb128 | "gnome-control-center sound" for example | 10:27 |
| andyrock | do you know if it's possible to make read-only a page on wiki.ubuntu.com ? | 10:27 |
| jibel | nope, it doesn't work | 10:27 |
| seb128 | andyrock, I dont know, maybe popey does? | 10:27 |
| seb128 | jibel, ? | 10:28 |
| jibel | the workaround doesn't work | 10:28 |
| seb128 | what does it say? | 10:28 |
| jibel | j-lallement@sark:~/Downloads$ gnome-control-center sound | 10:28 |
| jibel | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 10:28 |
| jibel | just try on disco | 10:28 |
| seb128 | can you get a bt? | 10:28 |
| seb128 | I can confirm that info crashes | 10:29 |
| Laney | that's not the workaround from the bug | 10:29 |
| Laney | it's a gsettings reset | 10:29 |
| seb128 | opening another panel should work though no? | 10:29 |
| Laney | apparently not | 10:30 |
| seb128 | it worked for me, weird, maybe timing or something | 10:30 |
| seb128 | jibel, gsettings reset org.gnome.ControlCenter last-panel | 10:31 |
| seb128 | then? | 10:31 |
| jibel | this works | 10:32 |
| seb128 | good | 10:32 |
| seb128 | let me cherry pick that upstream patch also | 10:32 |
| seb128 | so we can stop arguing for good | 10:32 |
| seb128 | can you please give details on the reiszing issue and report the "sound panel is too busy" on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues as well? | 10:33 |
| jibel | yeah but still, things should be tested before begin uploaded and hold the release if there is an obvious crash. It was simple-scan last week, g-c-c this week and it took less than 2 min to make them crash | 10:36 |
| jibel | being* | 10:36 |
| seb128 | come on | 10:38 |
| seb128 | things are tested | 10:38 |
| seb128 | the problem is coming from the glib update and not the g-c-c update | 10:38 |
| seb128 | even if do one hour of starting everything I can think of using glib I might not think about going to the settings->info panel | 10:38 |
| jibel | simple-scan crash last week? | 10:39 |
| seb128 | different case | 10:39 |
| jibel | same case, most basic tests have not been done | 10:39 |
| seb128 | bah, I don't understand git again :/ | 10:58 |
| Laney | seb128: want help or? | 11:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, thanks, I was about to ask but decided to try on a fresh checkout and then back in my working tree and now it works | 11:13 |
| seb128 | I had | 11:13 |
| seb128 | gnome-control-center$ gbp pq rebase | 11:13 |
| seb128 | ... | 11:13 |
| seb128 | CONFLIT (contenu) : Conflit de fusion dans panels/mouse/gnome-mouse-properties.c | 11:13 |
| seb128 | but it went away | 11:14 |
| seb128 | maybe I was in the wrong branch or something | 11:14 |
| Wimpress | jibel: Just doing some 18.04.2 iso testing. | 11:14 |
| Laney | okey | 11:14 |
| seb128 | then pq export would fail saying I had unstashed changed but I figured it out | 11:14 |
| Wimpress | Neither virtualbox-guest-x11 or virtualbox-guest-x11-hwe can be installed. | 11:14 |
| seb128 | I needed to rebase --continue after resolving the conflict | 11:14 |
| seb128 | anyway, thanks for asking Laney :) | 11:15 |
| Laney | if someone else has done the rebase before (if you're just pulling and adding a patch for e.g.) you can also drop/import | 11:17 |
| Laney | np | 11:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, I was trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/git#Pick_some_upstream_commits | 11:18 |
| seb128 | instead of just dumping a .patch in debian/patches manually (would have been easier) | 11:19 |
| Laney | ok, just wanted to give you a tip | 11:20 |
| seb128 | thx, I'm not sure ot understand git/gbp enough to understand the tip though | 11:21 |
| seb128 | if I don't use 'gbp pq rebase', then what command does the job? | 11:21 |
| Laney | rebase rebases the branch | 11:21 |
| seb128 | oir you meant to just copy the .patch the old way? | 11:22 |
| Laney | but you can re-create it | 11:22 |
| Laney | if you just want to add a patch, that is what drop and import does | 11:22 |
| seb128 | ah, right, I remember now, Marco mentioned that in the past :) | 11:25 |
| seb128 | thx Laney | 11:25 |
| seb128 | (also tried, indeed it works and avoid some of the 'noise' rebase is creating) | 11:25 |
| Laney | that recipe is also not going to make a patch with dep3 headers ;-) | 11:29 |
| * Laney edits it to add '-e' at least | 11:29 | |
| seb128 | shrug | 11:35 |
| seb128 | gbp push fails with | 11:36 |
| seb128 | gbp:error: Error running git push: To git+ssh://seb128@git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center | 11:36 |
| seb128 | ! [rejected] b3ab4d31841d2009c9d8930437acd3c6eeb63f0e -> pristine-tar (non-fast-forward) | 11:36 |
| ubot5 | seb128: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 11:36 |
| seb128 | hint: Updates were rejected because a pushed branch tip is behind its remote | 11:36 |
| seb128 | but git branch -v/git pull tell me pristine-tar is up-to-dat | 11:37 |
| seb128 | I can just ignore that gbp push error since I don't need to push anything at this point | 11:37 |
| seb128 | but it's puzzling :/ | 11:37 |
| Wimpress | tseliot: The doesn't appear to be a HWE nvidia driver for 18.04.2 in the archive. | 11:41 |
| jbicha | Laney: I didn't want to step on your toes by cherry-picking the g-c-c patch if you were planning to do it today | 12:17 |
| jbicha | jibel: I don't have a scanner so I wasn't able to do the basic simple-scan test. It did run without a scanner… | 12:18 |
| jbicha | good morning | 12:19 |
| Laney | jbicha: Alright, it was mostly that rls-dd-incoming seems like an unusual way to express that (you could have asked me) | 12:20 |
| Laney | anyway, seb128 did it so all good | 12:20 |
| jbicha | I was probably going to ask today. Silly timezones :) | 12:20 |
| Laney | feel free to ping me any time, I'll just reply when I get online next | 12:21 |
| jbicha | ok | 12:22 |
| Laney | :> | 12:22 |
| jbicha | I guess the most useful part of the new g-c-c Applications panel is that you can now disable file associations | 12:26 |
| * Laney likes that | 12:26 | |
| jbicha | the rest is like an alternative way of browsing the Search and Notifications panel (this way you navigate by app instead of by feature) | 12:26 |
| Laney | jibel: I just filed https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/377, not sure if that's what you were trying to describe but it seemed worth reporting to me | 12:44 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 377 in gnome-control-center "Sound panel shows duplicate and irrelevant entries" [6. Component: Sound, Opened] | 12:44 |
| jibel | Laney, thanks for reporting it, it's the issue and the main input and output volumes are not visible | 12:51 |
| jibel | you have to scroll | 12:51 |
| Laney | right, the order of the components is in the design | 12:54 |
| Laney | it's a bit weird when there are a lot of streams | 12:54 |
| jibel | Laney, do you see this too https://i.imgur.com/g53CLAd.png ? | 12:59 |
| jbicha | seb128: the new g-c-c patch isn't listed in d/p/series :( | 12:59 |
| Laney | jibel: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/375 | 13:00 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue 375 in gnome-control-center "Some panels (Background, Sound, Printers) cause the sidebar to disappear when visited" [Opened] | 13:00 |
| jibel | it's slightly different, in this case only the sidebar is visible with a wide empty space | 13:01 |
| jibel | and another issue is this where you cannot go back from applications https://i.imgur.com/R7WCZLC.png | 13:02 |
| Wimpress | tjaalton: nvidia driver are uninstallable in 18.04.2. Is this a known issue? | 13:03 |
| Laney | first part is part of the same bug, watch the screencast | 13:03 |
| tjaalton | Wimpress: you mean tseliot? I think it's being fixed | 13:03 |
| Laney | didn't see the other thing, please file it | 13:03 |
| Wimpress | Yeah, I pinged tseliot earlier. Thank for the update. | 13:04 |
| ricotz | hi, g-c-c 1:3.31.90-1ubuntu2 is not working -- $ gnome-control-center | 13:21 |
| ricotz | gnome-control-center: symbol lookup error: gnome-control-center: undefined symbol: gnome_get_all_languages | 13:21 |
| ricotz | ah, never mind, although it still crashes | 13:27 |
| ricotz | seb128, Laney, hi, the udisks patch in g-c-c is not applied aka not in the series file | 13:32 |
| jbicha | seb128: I'll go ahead and do this g-c-c upload since I have another fix to add | 13:33 |
| ricotz | jbicha, thanks | 13:35 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thx for pointing that out, I got bitten by the gbp workflow again :/ | 14:04 |
| tseliot | Wimpress: yes, I'm working on it. | 14:05 |
| seb128 | ricotz, that symbol issue is weird, can you give a ldd of the binary? | 14:05 |
| seb128 | jbicha, k, thx | 14:05 |
| seb128 | jbicha, also do you review the diff of every upload others do? | 14:09 |
| Laney | just got a usb bluetooth adapter | 14:13 |
| Laney | hoping for ZERO BUGS! | 14:13 |
| Laney | let's try ;-) | 14:13 |
| seb128 | haha | 14:14 |
| Laney | ok it's recognised by the kernel, good first step | 14:15 |
| ricotz | seb128, seems some intermediate problem, the root cause was the missing patch as said | 14:15 |
| seb128 | ricotz, k, good | 14:16 |
| ricotz | seb128, I tend to look at the diff if I got bitten by a bug myself | 14:16 |
| seb128 | yeah, makes sense | 14:17 |
| Laney | k managed to pair with my phone and send a file, good start | 14:17 |
| seb128 | woot | 14:18 |
| Laney | now let me try the headset | 14:18 |
| seb128 | tseliot, is there a bug about the nvidia problem? is #r-t aware of the problem? | 14:20 |
| Laney | k, close but no cigar, it paired fine but they're not listed in the sound panel as an output | 14:20 |
| tseliot | seb128: I don't think so, I noticed yesterday, and I asked tjaalton (who uploaded the new hwe stack) | 14:26 |
| seb128 | tseliot, tjaalton, can we get a bug tracking and r-t notified? | 14:26 |
| jbicha | tseliot: since you're here, did you see bug 1815374? | 14:28 |
| ubot5 | bug 1815374 in screen-resolution-extra (Ubuntu) "Please adjust dependencies so that policykit-1-gnome can be demoted to universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815374 | 14:28 |
| tseliot | jbicha: no, but I promise I'll have a look soon, thanks | 14:30 |
| tseliot | seb128: sure | 14:31 |
| seb128 | tseliot, thx | 14:34 |
| tseliot | seb128: it seems that we already have a bug report about it: LP: #1815579 | 14:54 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1815579 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu) "Broken dependencies with nvidia-driver-390 and xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 in bionic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815579 | 14:54 |
| seb128 | tseliot, thx | 14:55 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, jbicha, so we got a stack of snap failing to build errors in the moderation queue from the desktop list around jan 30, is that something you know about? can I just discard those or is the info useful? | 15:37 |
| seb128 | things like | 15:38 |
| seb128 | [Snap build #447603] amd64 build of gedit snap package in ubuntu bionic-backports | 15:38 |
| seb128 | Store upload failed for gnome-calculator-candidate | 15:38 |
| jbicha | seb128: those have generally been taken care of | 15:38 |
| seb128 | [Snap build #447889] i386 build of gnome-clocks-master snap package (gnome-clocks) in ubuntu bionic-updates | 15:38 |
| seb128 | k | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | discard ;) | 15:38 |
| seb128 | thx | 15:38 |
| seb128 | I'm always unsure if those reach the uploader/right people as well | 15:39 |
| seb128 | or just the list | 15:39 |
| jbicha | there are probably a few that will still ping until the Snap Store manual reviews are done for changed D-Bus app id's for GNOME 3.32 | 15:39 |
| seb128 | k | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | jbicha: do you know which ones haven't been ack'd yet? | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | i can chase them down | 15:40 |
| seb128 | there was a few ' Store authorization failed for ...' | 15:40 |
| seb128 | unsure what those are | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | i fixed those already | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | well | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | jbicha made sure i did :) | 15:40 |
| jbicha | some of those emails are because Launchpad periodically requires reauthorization for it to automatically upload to the Store | 15:40 |
| seb128 | k | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | the token expires from time to time | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | annoying :) | 15:40 |
| jbicha | it's a bit annoying for what we do :( | 15:40 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: it looks like glade is the only one I see with the dbus rename now | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | ok | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand: can you look at that? glade is stuck in review because of the dbus slot | 15:45 |
| jdstrand | kenvandine: r32 - r35 (the latest) are all approved. they need to be released though (I did this yesterday or sometime). am I missing something? | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | jdstrand: oh... they are :) | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | sorry about that | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | jbicha: ^^ all good | 15:48 |
| jdstrand | np | 15:48 |
| cyphermox | hey, on the desktop daily-live, I see the icon for ubiquity changed to some kind of weird circle and line thing, anybody know whether that's on purpose? | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | jbicha: i've released glade-master to edge and glade to candidate | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | jbicha: they have a fix for the gedit git mirror, just waiting for a sysadmin to roll it out | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | been in their queue for a couple days now | 16:11 |
| tomreyn | hey, i installed using the desktop daily-live, kept the default setting of "install updates during installation", chose minimal install, and ended up with 297 pending upgrades. | 16:13 |
| tomreyn | (maybe this is already known or even expected at this time) | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | tomreyn: that's not surprising. The latest daily-live is nearly 2 weeks old now. | 16:20 |
| kenvandine | tomreyn: there are newer ones in pending | 16:20 |
| k_alam | jbicha: Hi, in nm-applet dependency can it be "policykit-1-gnome | gnome-shell" instead of "gnome-shell | policykit-1-gnome" ? | 16:22 |
| tomreyn | kenvandine: i see. but isn't it more of a conceptual issue then? being just a dumb user i am i would assume that keeping the "install updates during installation" option would, whether the installer is old or new, make me end up with exactly 0 pending updates after the install is done. | 16:23 |
| tomreyn | kenvandine: anyways, i don'T want to delay any work, or waste anyone's time, just thought this may be relevant. | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | tomreyn: generally that number should be small. With the current development release there are quite a few packages updated every day | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | and the goal is to have a new daily live image everyday, something is holding that back right now | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | not the norm | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | tomreyn: no worries, it was worth mentioning :) | 16:24 |
| tomreyn | we seem to be discussing different things. my point is that i'd expect the installer to check for and install any pending updates, no matter when the installer was generated. | 16:25 |
| kenvandine | oh... | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | no it doesn't do that | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | it downloads them though | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | so when you first boot up they can be applied if you wish | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | without needing to download them | 16:26 |
| tomreyn | that was not the case here | 16:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, tomreyn, that's sort of bug #1802337 | 16:26 |
| ubot5 | bug 1802337 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Please apply security updates during Ubuntu install" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1802337 | 16:26 |
| seb128 | the option/description is a bit misleading also | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:26 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: looking at your diff it surprised me to see we still have a meson part. I thought I had removed that now that snapcraft can fetch the latest meson with pip | 16:28 |
| tomreyn | thanks seb128. maybe that's a dupe of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1798992 then | 16:28 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1798992 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Fresh desktop installation has packages pending autoremoval, pending updates" [Undecided,New] | 16:28 |
| tomreyn | (and thank you as well, kenvandine) | 16:28 |
| kenvandine | tomreyn: no worries | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: in theory you should be able to just remove that part | 16:29 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, I'll try that | 17:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, bug #1815941 is interesting, from the screenshot on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/uploads/ce3b0d852457daa6b03ec06d6015c462/Screenshot_from_2019-01-16_16-09-40.png gnome-software can display sources, would be nice to have that enabled for snaps. What's the best way to have that on the backlog for this cycle? trello board card? | 19:28 |
| ubot5 | bug 1815941 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Show the source field in overview for snaps and debs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815941 | 19:28 |
| kenvandine | seb128: that is interesting | 19:42 |
| kenvandine | seb128: i think gnome-software now has a selector on the app page when the same appId is available from multiple sources | 19:43 |
| kenvandine | or at least there is a recent design for that | 19:43 |
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