[09:04] <xubuntu53i> join
[17:50] <ssarah> what's the name of the process that thunar opens?
[17:50] <ssarah> ps | grep for "thunar" and there's nothing
[17:52] <diogenes_> ssarah, ps aux | grep Thunar
[18:02] <ssarah> ah shit
[18:02] <ssarah> it's cased
[18:02] <ssarah> ty
[18:05] <lopta> Does Xubuntu boot faster than (Gnome) Ubuntu?
[18:06] <genii> They all boot about the same
[18:07] <lopta> Hmm... perhaps there's something wrong with the PC I'm testing then.
[18:08] <genii> As far as how long it takes to get to the login screen. The differences then start with the desktop manager and desktop environment afterwards
[18:09] <genii> All *buntu variations will bog during boot if it hangs on something, like network is not working, etc
[18:16] <lopta> Ah, that's fair enough then.
[18:40] <D-melanogaster> what the default keyboard shortcut to open terminal of active window?
[18:42] <diogenes_> D-melanogaster, right click on the empty space and "open in terminal"
[18:42] <D-melanogaster> if there is no empty space?
[18:43] <D-melanogaster> shortcut doesn't exist?
[18:45] <diogenes_> not that i know of
[18:45] <diogenes_> and i haven't seen one in other DEs
[18:46] <D-melanogaster> damn
[18:48] <D-melanogaster> it's quite uncomfortable don't you think?
[18:48] <diogenes_> D-melanogaster, what exactly is uncomfortable?
[18:49] <D-melanogaster> shortcut for this option
[18:50] <diogenes_> for my case i don't see any problem there but if you want you can loon into nautilus terminal plugin so it show you a little terminal window in any directory you go to.
[18:50] <diogenes_> s/loon/look*
[18:52] <D-melanogaster> hm, this is a case, thanks
[18:52] <diogenes_> yw
[19:42] <Spass> D-melanogaster, I have a shortcut for that action (F4 in my case), but you need to set it yourself in Thunar menu Edit -> Actions
[19:42] <Spass> and then choose Open in terminal and edit that action, you can add your shortcut there
[19:43] <Spass> (if you have two "Open in terminal" actions on your list add a shortcut for both of them)
[19:45] <Spass> at least that's what I have on 18.10
[19:45] <Spass> but if you're on 18.04 there are other ways to add that shortcut
[20:08] <D-melanogaster> Spass: At the Thunar menu Edit -> Actions no fields for adding a shortcut combination. Actually I can open a terminal by using Ctrl+Alt+T but it always starts with ~ directory no matter what directory opened in Thunar
[20:10] <Spass> D-melanogaster, what Xubuntu version do you use? you can try this - in Appearance preferences, Settings tab, enable editable accelerators
[20:11] <Spass> then open Thunar, open File menu, hover on Open in terminal and press F4 (for example)
[20:11] <Spass> and see if that works
[20:12] <Spass> I think I did it like this on 18.04 some time ago
[20:16] <D-melanogaster> Spass: When I can check it? I just realized uname -a doesn't display it :/
[20:16] <D-melanogaster> I mean version
[20:16] <D-melanogaster> I think 18.04
[20:17] <Spass> try "lsb_release -a"
[20:17] <D-melanogaster> yea 18.04
[20:19] <D-melanogaster> Wooo
[20:19] <D-melanogaster> Spass: it works
[20:20] <Spass> nice, and one more thing before you disable that editable accelerators
[20:20] <D-melanogaster> Such a horrible manipulations for that small thing
[20:20] <Spass> you should do that shortcut edit when you have clicked a normal file and a directory, as both actions are slightly different
[20:21] <Spass> but both are named "Open in terminal"
[20:21] <Spass> (I think you can set the same shortcut for both)
[20:22] <Spass> and yeah, I recommend having that editable accelerators disabled after the change, to not mess things up by mistake someday :)
[20:23] <Spass> one single cat on a keyboard could cause a real shortcut disaster
[20:25] <D-melanogaster> Spass: Yeah Thanks a lot dude. Is this accelerating think sensible just for keyboard or mouse buttons too?
[20:26] <Spass> I think just keyboard
[20:27] <Spass> but you can check
[20:30] <D-melanogaster> No it doesn't (a have a lot of mouse buttons). Anyway now I know how to ruin ubuntu machines :D
[20:31] <Spass> please, don't ruin Xubuntu machines :)
[20:33] <D-melanogaster> Xubuntu - never, but I am not sure about ubuntu)
[20:46] <BloqueNegro> hi together :)
[20:46] <BloqueNegro> i just found a keyboard layout 'eurkey' which works perfectly for me
[20:47] <BloqueNegro> however, i can only set it via setxkbmap eu
[20:47] <BloqueNegro> which will be reset after reboot
[20:47] <BloqueNegro> i can NOT select it from sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[20:47] <BloqueNegro> any idea or hint how to set eurkey permanently?
[20:58] <brainwash> BloqueNegro: add it to the autostart apps
[20:58] <brainwash> the setxkbmap command
[21:00] <brainwash> xfce settings manager > session and startup > application autostart
[21:09] <BloqueNegro> uh, sounds kinda dirty... but ok^^
[21:26] <brainwash> BloqueNegro: how is that dirty?
[21:30] <brainwash> BloqueNegro: tried to change it via settings manager > keyboard?
[21:37] <BloqueNegro> brainwash: i did
[21:38] <BloqueNegro> however the keuboard manager seems to pull the data from the same source as keyboard-configuration
[21:38] <BloqueNegro> and setting it once there has the risk that it may be overwritten during the os phase without me really knowing it