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| user04 | is xfce the fastest desktop environment? | 02:58 |
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| BloqueNegro | the fastest? | 10:06 |
| BloqueNegro | dont know | 10:06 |
| BloqueNegro | the cleanest? yes! | 10:06 |
| gnrp | Depends on what you count as a desktop environment... lxde is definitely "faster" (by whatever measure), but I wouldn't really call it a DE | 11:17 |
| xubuntu43w | Morning! The torrent download links on this page are broken: https://xubuntu.org/download | 15:33 |
| xubuntu43w | They point to 18.04.1 but the site only contains 18.04.2 | 15:33 |
| xubuntu43w | Is there a better place to report this than here? | 15:33 |
| gnrp | xubuntu43w: Yes, maybe place a bug in the tracker | 15:45 |
| gnrp | this one here is rather for general questions that people from the community can reply to | 15:45 |
| gnrp | there is also another channel, #xubuntu-devel (also freenode), where more likely somebody might have influence | 15:46 |
| c5e3 | i've got a weird problem; i just installed a new nvme ssd and restored a backup from the nvme ssd. the system is usable for some minutes and all of a sudden active programs don't respond to key presses or mouse clicks anymore. not even the shut down menu pops up by pressing the power button. however, i can still move the mouse and highlight things. | 15:50 |
| c5e3 | since it is a dualboot system, i also tried using windows, where the problem doesn't appear | 15:51 |
| c5e3 | syslog doesn't show any errors | 15:51 |
| c5e3 | *backup from the old nvme ssd | 15:52 |
| xubuntu43w | Thanks gnrp, I posted in #xubuntu-devel as well | 15:52 |
| c5e3 | i just tried copying files to the machine with scp and when the problem occurs, the transfer rate drops to 0 | 15:54 |
| gnrp | c5e3: does it happen regardless of activity? | 16:04 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: yes | 16:04 |
| gnrp | c5e3: What you could do as an easy way of checking what is wrong, go to a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and wait till the problem occurs. Maybe you get a message then | 16:04 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: i will try that! ctrl+alt+Fx btw doesn't work after the problem occuring | 16:05 |
| gnrp | yes, do it before, so when a kernel panic occurs, you will see | 16:06 |
| gnrp | otherwise, I guess magic sysrq doesn't work? I forgot, but the only mouse is working is usually a panic, isn't it? | 16:06 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: i tried the magic sysrq, but i am unsure, if it is even possible to type it on a thinkpad t480s, as i have to press Fn+S for sysrq | 16:08 |
| c5e3 | i don't really understand what you mean with the second question | 16:08 |
| gnrp | I don't know myself. But this behavior (only mouse working) is a specific thing | 16:10 |
| gnrp | it depends on how you configured your system in BIOS. If you have the F buttons as the standard key, it is easy | 16:10 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: i've been waiting for it to happy now on tty1, but the system is still usable.... | 16:15 |
| gnrp | c5e3: Pity. :P | 16:17 |
| gnrp | maybe go on it via ssh and do some hard drive activity | 16:17 |
| c5e3 | i will run fsck on the partition and report back after that | 16:18 |
| c5e3 | yeah, i'll try that too | 16:18 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: the old ssd had ICs only on one side and there is a thermal pad beyond it to disiappte heat to the mb, maybe it interferes with some capacitors on the new double sided ssd ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 16:22 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: lol, i just noticed, that the ssd was flexing due to the thermal pad being too thick | 16:29 |
| gnrp | hmmmm ;) | 16:31 |
| gnrp | let's just hope you didn't do any permanent damage? | 16:31 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: if so, amazon will replace the drive ;D | 16:32 |
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| gnrp | lol | 16:34 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: ok, the problem persists and not kernel panic on tty1 | 16:39 |
| gnrp | but the ssd still flexes? | 16:41 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: nope | 16:41 |
| c5e3 | ah, now a message appeared | 16:42 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: basically just errors, that tasks are blocked for more than 120 seconds | 16:44 |
| gnrp | so the system is still running?! | 16:47 |
| gnrp | or what kind of tasks? Processes? | 16:47 |
| c5e3 | gnrp: i just can switch between ttys now, nothing more | 17:04 |
| c5e3 | i can't even login on any tty | 17:04 |
| gnrp | what do you mean that tasks are blocked? You mean processes? | 17:04 |
| gnrp | you could also try to check dmesg in a loop or so | 17:05 |
| c5e3 | dmesg doesn't show anything | 17:05 |
| c5e3 | it prints something like "task xy is blocked for 120 seconds" | 17:06 |
| gnrp | what are these tasks? | 17:06 |
| gnrp | so you can still call dmesg? | 17:07 |
| c5e3 | chromium, systemd, scheduler etc | 17:07 |
| c5e3 | no, i can't | 17:07 |
| c5e3 | basically all running tasks are shown | 17:07 |
| c5e3 | i decided to get a replacement for the ssd anyway now | 17:08 |
| c5e3 | i just run shred(1) over it, maybe i'll get an error there | 17:09 |
| xubuntu85w | i think i have found a bug in 18.04... what do i do ? | 22:07 |
| brainwash | !bugs | 22:08 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 22:08 |
| xubuntu85w | thanks :) | 22:08 |
| brainwash | feel free to describe the bug here. maybe we can assist you. | 22:09 |
| xubuntu85w | the problem is with sgt puzzle collection when I use the "app manager" and uninstall it ... bunch of thing start going wrong...xfce... thunar and other start to fail | 22:11 |
| xubuntu85w | tried to reproduce 3 time on tre different machine...same issue | 22:12 |
| xubuntu85w | im using xubuntu 18.04 beaver | 22:12 |
| xubuntu85w | Ok spent the day on this issue and I have just confirm, its only Xfce4 that needs to be reinstall to fix the problem. | 22:17 |
| brainwash | okay | 22:18 |
| brainwash | I assume that it does not only remove sgt puzzle collection, but also does some cleanup | 22:18 |
| brainwash | as in removing "unneeded" packages | 22:18 |
| xubuntu85w | I think so too. | 22:19 |
| JackFrost | GNOME software? Is there any way to get a log from it as to what else it removes? | 22:19 |
| brainwash | could be this one bug 1783764 | 22:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1783764 in exo (Ubuntu) "Deleting "Mail Reader" crashes the computer" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783764 | 22:20 |
| brainwash | well, similar to this one | 22:20 |
| xubuntu85w | it is prety close yes | 22:21 |
| xubuntu85w | im going to try with mailreader see if i get same result | 22:22 |
| brainwash | that one is a confirmed case though | 22:22 |
| brainwash | maybe check what running "sudo apt remove sgt-puzzles" does | 22:23 |
| brainwash | I cannot test it right now | 22:23 |
| xubuntu85w | ok | 22:24 |
| xubuntu85w | reinstalling xubuntu 18.04 fresh to test :) | 22:32 |
| brainwash | reinstalling the package could have been enough, or testing in the live session | 22:34 |
| xubuntu85w | maybe... but i want to be sure... i still have 35 machine to do so. | 22:38 |
| xubuntu85w | OK, I got it all figure out (its the 1783764 bug ) as mention before. I was cliking too fast on the uninstall button whitch was not the sgt-puzzles button but the mail-client that got removed. causing this issue :https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783764 | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1783764 in exo (Ubuntu) "Deleting "Mail Reader" crashes the computer" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:07 |
| xubuntu85w | so if you do uninstall mail reader you will need to reinstall xfce4 to fix everything | 23:08 |
| xubuntu85w | well for me it worked anyway. | 23:09 |
| xubuntu85w | thanks for the help ;) | 23:12 |
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