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[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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[17:01] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Anything I can do to help to move backports-landing to backports?
[17:08] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> I see 18.04.2 has very few official test reports.  It's a little late, but I now have time to test 18.04.2 if the feedback will serve any purpose.
[17:35] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @DarinMiller, Yeah, too late for much point now.
[17:36] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @DarinMiller, I'm conflicted about that. 5.14.1 bugfix is out on Tuesday...
[17:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> ?  Do you mean 5.15.1 is out on Tuesday?
[17:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> Yes
[17:39] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> No hurry in my opinion.  Landing worked fine for one install.  But I did not know if Simon's patch needed testing.
[17:39] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> The .1 bugfix release seems a sensible time to push to main backports PPA IMO
[17:40] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Sounds good to me.  I have a 3 day weekend with no exciting plans, so let me know what I can do to help.
[17:41] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> Cheers :)
[17:50] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> At the moment I am just sheperding the last of FW 5.55 through proposed. May do the non pim part of app 18.12.2 tomorow or Mon
[17:50] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> Plasma is not much to do at the moment
[17:51] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> I ddidn't make the same plasma packaging snafus that Neon did (merge related)
[17:51] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> On a recent 18.10 update, apparently grub-install was ran so that my 18.10 partition now controlled by grub menu.  If this upstream or can Kubuntu override this "feature"?
[17:52] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Neon snafu's?  I did not notice any snafu's on my neon dev unstable upates over the last week or two...
[17:52] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> Not easy to override for us. Really a Ubuntu thing
[17:53] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @DarinMiller, Some dropped runtime deps, in stable -> user edition
[17:53] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> thought as much.  I kept trying to fix it with grub-update but to no avail.  Had to run grub-install from Disco to restore order.
[17:55] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @DarinMiller, Not a snafu really, but bad timing that 18.04.2 base files update from Ubuntu overwrote the Neon versioning in about:system
[17:56] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> And for some reason discover is having issues with the update button for many in Neon, whereas I can't replicate it bug in Cosmic with backports
[17:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> Prompted this sort of thread on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/aqycwp/how_can_we_help_keep_kde_neon_user_edition_from/
[18:00] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> DIscover is improving dramatically, but I always forget to test it as it has had such a history of growing pains, I just automatically use the command line.
[18:01] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/6QuIWwh5/file_13375.mp4
[18:01] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> :)
[18:55] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Attempting to install kinit-dev on Cosmic with backports.
[18:55] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> kinit-dev : Depends: kinit (= 5.52.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu18.10~ppa1) but 5.53.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu18.10~ppa1 is to be installed
[18:56] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> looking at the backport control file, I do not see any reference to 5.53.  What am I missing.... https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kinit/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_cosmic_backports
[19:01] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Ubuntu package search also failed to enlighten: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kinit&searchon=names&suite=cosmic&section=all
[19:03] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> On disco, the kinit-dev installs just fine....
[19:21] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @DarinMiller, Backports PPA does not have 5.53 for cosmic. You must have maybe installed some 5.53 from a staging/landing PPA at some point?
[19:24] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> Entirely possible, but not that I recall on my desktop.... not a big deal.  I was more interested in understading how to trouble shoot....
[19:25] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> find any 5.53 packages and force downgrade them to 5.52
[19:28] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> but fw is v 5.53 with current backports, yes? So I would have to ppa purge backports?
[19:32] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> also, FWIW, kinit-dev on 18.10 with landing and fw 5.54 installs just fine.  Again, not a big deal and probably self induced via ppa diving.
[19:37] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> @DarinMiller, No, it's all 5.52 in Cosmic backports. Which is why I said you must have got some 5.53 from another testing PPA
[19:38] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> duh..... https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports .... I did not even think to check here....
[19:39] <IrcsomeBot1> * acheronuk nods
[19:41] <IrcsomeBot1> * DarinMiller somewhat remebers testing one of Rik's super secret PPA's a while back at Rik's request and thus blames Rik...
[19:41] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> ^^ ENTIRELY KIDDING^^ of course :)
[20:45] <IrcsomeBot1> <acheronuk> hahaha
[21:35] <IrcsomeBot1> <DarinMiller> what the correct way to generate or download ~/.kubuntu-automation.conf ?  It's not part of ka-metadata or ka packages as far as I can tell....