| MJCD | when running xubuntu in virtualbox with all the hardware accel options turned on (3d, VT-X, etc) - do I want to go for the kernels and xorg stuff marked 'hwe' ? | 01:25 |
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| MJCD | ps: sent here by #vbox | 01:25 |
| JackFrost | 'hardware enablement stack' just means kernels/etc from newer releases, this tends to be useful if you have newer hardware and the kernel support is suboptimal. | 01:26 |
| MJCD | hm I see | 01:27 |
| MJCD | so i'd probably be better off with the more stable mainstream ones | 01:27 |
| MJCD | even though the versions are the same | 01:28 |
| MJCD | lol | 01:28 |
| MJCD | that's confusing | 01:28 |
| MJCD | you'd think newer features would just be... newer releases | 01:28 |
| JackFrost | Bionic comes with 4.15.x, hwe is linux-tools-4.18.0-15-generic, soo...That looks like a newer release to me! | 01:29 |
| MJCD | what I mean is like | 01:36 |
| MJCD | 4.15.x has a hwe module | 01:36 |
| MJCD | the same as 4.18.0-15-generic does | 01:36 |
| MJCD | so 4.15.x-hwe would seemingly have stuff from newer releases included | 01:37 |
| MJCD | newer than itself | 01:37 |
| MJCD | which seems like a bad plan | 01:37 |
| MJCD | right? | 01:37 |
| JackFrost | I'm not seeing that, though. | 01:39 |
| MJCD | it wont be in the bionic repo's | 01:39 |
| MJCD | it would be in the previous one | 01:39 |
| JackFrost | ...So then what's your point? | 01:39 |
| MJCD | My point is that it just seems a weird concept | 01:40 |
| JackFrost | hwe gives you newer releases than at the time of the release, rather than just being bug/security fixes. | 01:40 |
| MJCD | if you wanna enable next-gen stuff | 01:40 |
| MJCD | install a next-gen version | 01:40 |
| JackFrost | So then don't use them..? | 01:40 |
| MJCD | like having two copies of the same thing | 01:40 |
| MJCD | that's what I mean | 01:40 |
| MJCD | one with newer features from proposed | 01:40 |
| MJCD | that's just a newer version | 01:40 |
| MJCD | I don't get the hwe thing | 01:41 |
| JackFrost | I mentioned what the basic concept was, but.. | 01:41 |
| JackFrost | !hwe | 01:41 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 01:41 |
| MJCD | just seems like a complete anti-pattern | 01:42 |
| MJCD | as a dev | 01:42 |
| MJCD | like just make a new minor release :/ | 01:43 |
| MJCD | of that package I mean | 01:43 |
| JackFrost | Did you read the page? | 01:43 |
| MJCD | "even recommended for cloud or virtual images" | 01:44 |
| MJCD | watttt | 01:44 |
| MJCD | whyyyy | 01:44 |
| MJCD | "The 16.04 HWE Stacks will follow a new Rolling Update Model as documented at the following location: " | 01:45 |
| MJCD | so i'm using LTS | 01:45 |
| MJCD | I am running servers obviously | 01:45 |
| MJCD | in VM's | 01:45 |
| MJCD | and it's desirable for me to have rolling updates to my kernel and graphics drivers? :| | 01:45 |
| MJCD | in a vm where the drivers never change | 01:46 |
| MJCD | or rather are seldom updated | 01:46 |
| JackFrost | OK, so the answer to your support question "Should I use them?" would seem to be "No." If you disagree with them...existing, well then perhaps file a bug report or whatnot, nothing will get done if you just elaborate here. | 01:46 |
| MJCD | what? that page says I should use them | 01:46 |
| MJCD | "even recommended for cloud or virtual images" | 01:46 |
| JackFrost | You seem to fundamentally disagree with them, so.. | 01:47 |
| MJCD | I'm just asking questions | 01:48 |
| MJCD | Like it just seems fundamentally flawed as a concept | 01:48 |
| JackFrost | You're not really, though. | 01:48 |
| MJCD | I want the latest features | 01:48 |
| MJCD | tbh I'm livid there isn't a release of 19 | 01:48 |
| MJCD | because I Wanted to go full wayland | 01:48 |
| MJCD | so for now i'm just xorg'ing by | 01:49 |
| MJCD | lol | 01:49 |
| JackFrost | Xfce doesn't have support for wayland, and the release schedule that has been around for years means that there will be a release in a couple months... | 01:49 |
| MJCD | I noticed these and thouht it meant hardware enablement | 01:49 |
| JackFrost | !19.04 | 01:49 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) will be the 30th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for April 2019 (<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule#>). It will be supported for nine months. | 01:49 |
| MJCD | aka better support for the latest features | 01:49 |
| MJCD | which sounds good | 01:49 |
| MJCD | but I don't want 'rolling releases' | 01:49 |
| MJCD | of the same version | 01:50 |
| MJCD | but with different capabilities? | 01:50 |
| MJCD | how does that make sense haha | 01:50 |
| MJCD | and I know xfce doesn't, i'm using it for now | 01:50 |
| MJCD | though I do like it | 01:50 |
| MJCD | I also like Qt | 01:50 |
| MJCD | Qt5 and wayland will probably be the next thingy | 01:51 |
| MJCD | but unrelated | 01:51 |
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| EoflaOE | Today when I open my XFCE whisker menu on Xubuntu, it doesn't show categories, only Favorites, Recently used, and All. I know the search function, but I need to use categories to easily find an app | 08:46 |
| pfeiffer | any way to reset xfce terminal font from the command line? | 09:11 |
| pfeiffer | I've set it to 'clean' and everytime i try to use the Appearance menu it crashes | 09:11 |
| pfeiffer | .terminalrc doesn't seem to mention font | 09:12 |
| brainwash | pfeiffer: dot? | 10:00 |
| brainwash | here is xubuntu's default config https://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/tree/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc | 10:00 |
| brainwash | it has FontName | 10:00 |
| pfeiffer | hmmm. my terminalrc didn't have any font in it | 10:13 |
| pfeiffer | I'll try that ... | 10:13 |
| pfeiffer | brainwash, didn't work.. i've added the line: FontName=DejaVu Sans Mono 9 | 10:20 |
| pfeiffer | logged out and back in.. still stuck on cean font and stil crashing | 10:20 |
| pfeiffer | clean* font | 10:20 |
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| eddyyy4 | Hello everyone. Is there a way to get a .deb version of VLC 3.0.6. Snap version can't be themed so I want to stick with .deb. | 21:49 |
| gnrp | eddyyy4: Did you try the ppa? https://launchpad.net/~videolan | 21:53 |
| gnrp | I don't know though if it is the most recent version in there | 21:53 |
| eddyyy4 | They abandoned PPA. | 21:53 |
| eddyyy4 | Disco repos has latest VLC, is it possible to get it on Cosmic? | 21:54 |
| gnrp | tbh, I don't know. I am not aware of a backports-like thing on ubuntu | 21:55 |
| gnrp | and compiling it yourself is not an option? | 21:55 |
| JackFrost | It'd be easier to backport it to a PPA or rebuild the package yourself, imo. | 21:58 |
| eddyyy4 | Not yet, still learing about Linux, using Xubuntu for about 5 months on my laptop. Love it. | 21:58 |
| eddyyy4 | I'll give MPV a try, heard a lot of good things about it. | 21:58 |
| JackFrost | It's a nice player too. | 21:59 |
| eddyyy4 | What Xubuntu version are you running? I'm on 18.04. | 22:04 |
| gnrp | eddyyy4: You can really try compiling. It is not hard, as long as no problems occur | 22:05 |
| eddyyy4 | Tnx, I'll look into it. | 22:09 |
| brainwash | eddyyy4: there is bug 1812480 | 22:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1812480 in vlc (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Update to bugfix release 3.0.6 in Bionic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1812480 | 22:12 |
| eddyyy4 | So 3.0.6 might end up in 18.04? | 22:23 |
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