[00:03] <JFlash> hey guys, I finally got it to work the secret is to enable sharing on the Wifi connection and NOT on the ethernet connection
[00:03] <JFlash> also enable DHCP on the guest machine (linux)
[00:04] <JFlash> thanks to evryone that helped me!
[00:04] <OerHeks> good find, JFlash
[00:04] <OerHeks> have fun!
[00:10] <steveken> wonder if the windows partition needs the boot flag enabled on it.
[00:12] <jeremy31> steveken: my EFI partition has boot and esp flags
[00:12] <steveken> yeah, that's waht the first partition has on it.
[00:13] <steveken> the best option is to reinstall windows at this point, I think
[00:20] <pi0> anyone here use pgp
[00:21] <pi0> is that even useful still?
[00:21] <compdoc> I wish there was some easy way to encrypt
[01:03] <PresidentPoop> hello
[01:03] <PresidentPoop> i am President Poopy-Face
[01:04] <PresidentPoop> i am going to build a wall made of steel slats and it is going to be ten feet tall
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> and it will keep all the brown people out
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> i am the only one who can make america great again
[01:05] <kk4ewt> !ops
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> i am the one and only commander and cheif
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> i am PRESIDENT POOPY-FACE
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> all shall bow to me
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> !ops
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> !ops
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> !ops
[01:05] <PresidentPoop> !ops
[01:07] <cim209> Lol
[01:13] <noah_h> When I install mailutils do I need to install anything else to get the `newaliases` command to work? Whenever I run it I get: `newaliases: fatal: execv /usr/bin/postalias: No such file or directory`
[01:40] <Gerowen> What's the name of that package that puts legacy system tray icons into their proper place in Gnome 3?
[01:40] <Gerowen> Example, to put my Hexchat icon in the top right system tray.
[01:46] <rfm> noah_h, not sure what's happening to you, but on my system /usr/bin/newaliases is part of the postfix package, not mailutils.  What MTA are you using?  (sendmail, postfix, exim are common)
[01:47] <noah_h> rfm: postfix, this issue is ocurring in a pretty straight forward Docker container: https://github.com/Noah-Huppert/email-container/blob/master/Dockerfile#L24
[01:48] <noah_h> I couldn't find a Ubuntu package that provided the postalias file either...
[01:52] <rfm> noah_h, postalias is in postfix package (although it's /usr/sbin/postalias, not /usr/bin/postalias as in your message)
[01:57] <noah_h> rfm: huh
[02:02] <Mystified1234> need help
[02:02] <Mystified1234> my right click does not open any options
[02:02] <rfm> noah_on my working postfix ubuntu, newaliases is /usr/bin/newaliases, which is a symlink to /usr/sbin/sendmail, which execs /usr/sbin/postalias.  Alll those are part of the postfix package.  you might check where yours differs (my guess is there is a mixture of MTA packages installed, entirely too many things provide "sendmail")
[02:03] <Mystified1234> in ubuntu there is nothing it can do
[02:03] <Mystified1234> works pk in with console
[02:03] <Mystified1234> works ok in with console
[02:03] <Mystified1234> I have both keyboard & touch screen netbook
[02:04] <Mystified1234> Im not very technical
[02:11] <noah_h> rfm: Maybe installing in noninteractive is screwing something up, like the symlink, I know the configure step asks for user input so I wouldn't we surprised if noninteractive not giving input made it skip a symlink.
[02:11] <noah_h> thanks for the details, I'll try manually symlinking
[02:11] <pi0> how do i fine tune ubuntu
[02:13] <OerHeks> tons of sites with tweaks and tips, a good start could be dconf and gnome-tweak-tool .. and read a lot about it first
[02:13] <pi0> ebook reader for ubuntu
[02:13] <OerHeks> software-center
[02:14] <pi0> dconf and gnome tweak tool
[02:15] <pi0> found dconf
[02:19] <pi0> thank you
[02:19] <pi0> i just did a bold move and installed ubuntu on my new surface pro 6
[02:19] <pi0> wiped out windows 10
[02:20] <noah_h> lol usually when I do that it's not on purpose pi0
[02:20] <rapidwave> I'm having weird audio issues. I can't seem to get much sound no matter if I'm using built-in speakers or plugging in speakers.
[02:23] <pi0> well no turning back
[02:23] <pi0> lol i wiped out the backup partition by mistake
[02:24] <pi0> i tried to find it with gparted but its all ext4 now :/
[02:24] <pi0> poof gone
[02:24] <pi0> how do i check which version if gnome i am running
[02:26] <OerHeks> and what did yo find with bing/google/duck?
[02:26] <noah_h> rfm: yup symlink worked, ty much
[02:42] <konrados> Hello. When installing ubuntu (well actually kubuntu, but the responsible process is the same, right?) can I see the details of what is happening? I can't understand why it takes so long - the 2 GB iso file is on a separate drive, and both the source and target drive to about 150MB/s - why does it take almost 2h to install it? I did check 'download updates while installing', yes, but my internet usage is close to zero
[02:42] <konrados> oh, it's done right now, but for future reference - is this possible to somehow see the details while installing?
[02:43] <konrados> *do about 150 MB/s
[02:46] <konrados> it's via virtualbox but I gave it full power. But it just doesn't appear to be used o.O cpu usage is at 20%, and itostat and iotop say that io isn't used that much either, I really have this feeling that there is sleep(rand()*10000);somewhere in the loop or something :)
[02:48] <konrados> when I *start* it after installing, it works OK, it does use 100% of the cpu and IO and boots very quickly.
[02:51] <Mcl0vin> exit
[02:53] <JFlash> is there a channel for linux help?
[02:53] <JFlash> like linux beggginners or ubuntu help or something like that?
[02:53] <JFlash> I vaguelly remember there was one
[02:55] <krytarik> JFlash: There is ##linux, yes.
[03:21] <dyc3_> How's it hangin fellas
[03:30] <JFlash> dyc3_:  seeting up a new ubuntu box for javascript dev. how about you?
[03:39] <d6> Hey guys, does anyone know when is the Ubuntu release?
[03:40] <guiverc_d> d6, which release?
[03:40] <mrelcee> 18.04.2?
[03:40] <guiverc_d> 18.04.2 has already been released officially.
[03:40] <d6> Really! I am using 18.04... there is an additional.2
[03:41] <guiverc_d> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-February/000238.html
[03:42] <guiverc_d> if you `sudo apt dist-upgrade` (or full-upgrade) your 18.04 will upgrade to 18.04.2
[03:42] <d6> and what's the difference?
[03:42] <mrelcee> .1. :)
[03:44] <mrelcee> dyc3_ : I'm in the middle of dong a 18.04.2 setup on a lenovo l440 doing zfs on root, and a bunch of VMs..   goin really smoove..
[03:47] <Linuxuser> lol
[03:47] <Linuxuser> so many typos lol
[03:47] <guiverc_d> d6, if you want to know the difference, why not open the links & read - already provided (in prior link is) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes which includes a 18.04.2 section; most significant is likely HWE
[03:55] <d6> Ubuntu is really fun and the community is doing such an incredible job not to mention it's free.... I do hope the new upgrade brings even more attractive features, has anyone used it yet?
[03:57] <guiverc_d> d6, 18.04.2 is primarily just a new ISO for new installs; normal dist-upgrades of 18.04 will get it automatically, but new installs get HWE (or use 18.10's kernel, 19.04 when released, 19.10 then 20.04.. HWE is enabled where it's disabled by default for older 18.04 installs) - it's just a newer ISO in my opinion, like debian 9.8's recent release...  Yes some people love it, most it's a ho-hum.
[04:00] <dyc3_> JFlash: I've been retheming my set up. I figured it was about time to mix it up
[04:37] <c3bolla> hey all. Does Ubuntu 18.04 use Network Manager to manage all network interfaces and options? For example, if I want to set alternative DNS servers for my box, do I edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, or should I be putting new files in /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d ?
[04:37] <JFlash> what is this command doing?
[04:38] <JFlash> cd <Genymotion installer path> ./genymotion-<version>_<arch>.bin -d <Genymotion installer path>
[04:39] <JFlash> ok looks like it's trying to run the installer passing the current path as an argument to -d
[04:39] <JFlash> why would need want to do that?
[04:54] <dyc3_> c3bolla: I would be surprised if 18.04 didn't use NetworkManager
[04:55] <c3bolla> would systemd report it as a service?
[04:57] <SwedeMike> https://websiteforstudents.com/configure-static-ip-addresses-on-ubuntu-18-04-beta/
[04:57] <SwedeMike> c3bolla: you might want to look into netplan as above, depending on if you're using ubuntu server or regular desktop.
[05:05] <c3bolla> SwedeMike Only file I have in /etc/netplan is 01-network-manager-all.yaml  with this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gKtVS43GYP/ in it
[05:06] <SwedeMike> c3bolla: right, then you should perform all changes in networkmanager
[05:06] <c3bolla> otherwise they will be overridden?
[05:08] <SwedeMike> I don't know what will take precedence. Seems like the easiest thing to set alternative dns servers as you wanted would be to do this in networkmanager gui
[05:11] <c3bolla> ok. But is it possible to run the desktop version like a server? since it has all the same components, just with a GUI if you need it?
[05:13] <SwedeMike> c3bolla: yes.
[05:16] <eva_> hi
[05:21] <c3bolla> SwedeMike and when other howtos reference NetworkManager, are they referring to the GUI?
[05:33] <pi0> how do i upgrade to gnome 3
[05:33] <pi0> with ubuntu 18.04
[05:42] <murthy> pi0: hi
[05:43] <pi0> hey
[05:46] <murthy> pi0: do you know If gnome 3 is backported to 18.04?
[05:47] <pi0> i just read it
[05:47] <pi0> how do i upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10
[05:48] <murthy> pi0: do you want to upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10 or you want to upgrade gnome to version 3 in 18.04 itself?
[05:49] <pi0> at this point minus well upgrade
[05:49] <pi0> 18.10
[05:49] <pi0> since no back port available at the moment
[05:49] <murthy> pi0: check the section named "Upgrading from Ubuntu 18.04" in this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes
[05:50] <pi0> will do
[05:50] <murthy> pi0: where did you see that there is no backport of gnome 3 for 18.04
[05:52] <murthy> pi0: I just googled and saw that ubuntu 18.04 already has gnome3?
[05:52] <SwedeMike> c3bolla: you can either use the gui or "nmcli", but it should configure the same thing
[05:53] <murthy> pi0: let me check package version
[05:54] <pi0> thank you
[05:55] <murthy> pi0: ubuntu 18.04 already has gnome 3
[05:55] <murthy> pi0: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gnome-session
[05:59] <pi0> oh wow
[05:59] <pi0> i still cant get scaling to work correctly
[05:59] <pi0> i have a surface pro 6
[06:12] <pi0> so phoenix_firebrd_ so far its been a journey getting ubuntu on surface pro 6
[06:12] <CarlFK> what's the sudo that logs me in as root?
[06:12] <pi0> to work with pen and mouse
[06:13] <guiverc> CarlFK, `sudo su`  --- but no idea if this is what you're after.
[06:13] <CarlFK> I thought it was sudo -s, but $HOME is still the user that ran sudo.
[06:13] <mot> Hi, anyone installed mysql? following instructions here https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/binary-installation.html, below table 2.3 and got stuck here https://pastebin.com/ndU1gL0S ... ?
[06:13] <CarlFK> guiverc: su is it.. thanks
[06:14] <krytarik> CarlFK: I use "sudo -i" for this.
[06:14] <mot> a bit noobish btw
[06:14] <CarlFK> ah right - su is the command, not flags.  -i is really want I was thinking of
[06:16] <CarlFK> mot - unless you need mysql for something, I recomend postgresql - but both of them you can install with apt, which I would also recommend
[06:18] <pi0> brb
[06:19] <CarlFK> mot: sudo apt install postgresql  ->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HKnmwSw5QW/
[06:23] <c3bolla> SwedeMike it looks like I can override any system settings if I place a .yaml file in /etc/netplan/ and run netplan apply
[06:25] <c3bolla> referencing https://blog.ubuntu.com/?p=75009 -- https://blog.ubuntu.com/?p=82067 -- and https://netplan.io/examples#using-network-manager-as-a-renderer
[06:26] <c3bolla> Netplan seems quite new
[06:28] <c3bolla> Is that the preferred way of configuring network settings on a server now?
[06:32] <CarlFK> c3bolla: it seems to be the default.  "preferred" depends on who you ask.  (I don't care.. everything mostly works)
[06:39] <c3bolla> CarlFK is it like 10 ways to skin a cat at this point?
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> c3bolla: see also #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers
[06:43] <SwedeMike> c3bolla: seems nowadays 18.04 server comes with netplan as the default way to set network settings
[06:52] <c3bolla> cool, ok.
[06:53] <c3bolla> CarlFK why do you prefer postgres?
[06:55] <raspberry> tes
[07:09] <CarlFK> c3bolla: um.. smart people recommend it.  (and seem to make good points, I just go with it.)   and who knows what Oracle will do with mysql.
[07:18] <c3bolla> to avoid the road taken by Solaris?
[07:24] <johnlillypod> gday
[07:32] <vinuchn> hi
[08:03] <vlt> Hello. I accidentally my ~/Desktop directory (which was empty and named in my local language). No everything in ~/ is shown on the MATE desktop. I re-created the dir manually, logged out and in again but still see my homefir on my desktop. Any idea how to correct that?
[08:04] <vlt> s/No/Now
[08:05] <noy||b> Hello
[08:06] <noy||b> Is anyone around at the moment and able to help me put in a keybinding into ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[08:06] <noy||b> Because where I'm putting it and then reconfiguring openbox it keeps telling me it's junk lines
[08:08] <noy||b> Anyone able to help with that?
[08:10] <noy||b> Come one someone must be awake, there's 1300 people in here.
[08:10] <SwedeMike> noy||b: patience.
[08:11] <noy||b> lol fair enough
[08:12] <ducasse> while you wait you can pastebin the file with your edits so we can see what errors out
[08:13] <noy||b> Yep doing that now..
[08:14] <noy||b> I'll paste the rc.xml file and what I'm trying stick in it, and the error I get when I reconfig
[08:26] <noy||b> I can't even get the pastebin to give me a link
[08:27] <ducasse> which pastebin?
[08:28] <up2late> my desktop scren suddenly went upside down, how to fix?
[08:28] <noy||b> ok, here is the lubuntu-rc.xml file I'm trying to put the new keybinding in - http://dpaste.com/3ND4643
[08:28] <noy||b> and.. (one sec)
[08:29] <noy||b> Here is the keybinding I'm trying to put in - http://dpaste.com/1CVBFN7
[08:30] <noy||b> I've tried to follow a couple of guides on the forum and apparently that keybinding works but I'm not sure where in the file to put it
[08:30] <mmkumr> I am using i3wm in ubuntu. When I am trying for save as in firefox nautilus is opening but it looks like the window is zoomed.
[08:31] <noy||b> The places I've tried give me an error when I reconfig, I'll run it again and post that too.
[08:32] <ducasse> noy||b: put it in after line 472, before the </keyboard>
[08:32] <murthy> pi0, that is good, I never knew ubuntu can be installed on surface
[08:32] <murthy> bbl
[08:33] <noy||b> Thanks ducasse, I'll try that right now.
[08:40] <noy||b> ducasse:  Thanks heaps it works great.
[08:40] <noy||b> ducasse:  Is that the only place that could have been put?
[08:41] <ducasse> noy||b: np. it's an xml file, so you need to follow xml syntax and place things between the <foo>...</foo> tags
[08:42] <noy||b> ducasse:  So if I want to add something to the applications section I'd follow the same rules sort of thing?
[08:42] <ducasse> so after <keyboard> but before </keyboard>
[08:42] <ducasse> the </ closes the tag, same as html
[08:43] <noy||b> ducasse:  Actually I thought what I was doing there was toggling the un/decorate title bar off and on but it's only toggling a normal maximixe
[08:45] <noy||b> This emergency computer I'm using doesn't have a HDMI port and the title bars take up valuable screen space.
[08:45] <ducasse> i've no idea what function you'd use to toggle decorations on/off, sorry - you'd need to check the docs
[08:45] <noy||b> ducasse: Where would I find those?  I'm very new to ubuntu/lubuntu.
[08:47] <noy||b> Everything is different.
[08:47] <ducasse> noy||b: this looks like a good place to start - http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Contents
[08:47] <noy||b> Thanks
[08:47] <krytarik> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#Undecorate - to be specific.
[08:47] <ducasse> noy||b: try ToggleDecorations
[08:48] <noy||b> ok
[08:48] <ducasse> (instead of ToggleMaximizeFull)
[08:49] <noy||b> boom!
[08:49] <noy||b> ducasse:  You should do this for money.
[08:50] <noy||b> ducasse:  Thanks Heaps.
[08:50] <ducasse> you're welcome :)
[09:07] <allen> good morning
[09:08] <ducasse> morning
[09:08] <ducasse> oh
[09:09] <krytarik> Too sloooow! :D
[09:09] <ducasse> yep :)
[09:16] <rad> people actually here wo
[09:16] <rad> I was wondering if anyone still used irc wow
[09:17] <snpresent> ?
[09:23] <Whistleblower> Well the thing is
[09:23] <Whistleblower> people are dying
[09:24] <Whistleblower> people are dying
[09:24] <Whistleblower> people are dying
[09:24] <Whistleblower> people are dying
[09:24] <Whistleblower> people are dying
[09:25] <snpresent> the answer is: who cares... :)
[09:27] <aneon> people start dying from the moment they are born
[09:27] <aneon> nbd
[09:28] <snpresent> correct!
[09:29] <krytarik> The Ubuntu kind of dying.. huh. :P
[09:29] <krytarik> (Enough now though.)
[09:29] <snpresent> never
[09:30] <snpresent> you are totallywrong
[09:30] <snpresent> ubuntu growing fast
[09:31] <aneon> Linux isn't dying but the Android thing has shrunk the userbase
[09:31] <krytarik> That is to say, try and don't get off the rails of the channel topic.
[09:31] <aneon> need a true opensource phone
[09:31] <snpresent> try kde phone
[09:32] <snpresent> android is dying too...
[09:32] <sera_denoir> looking for some input on configuring rtpg-www on Bionic Server.  I got rtorrent install and confirmed working, used the (very dated) info from here to theoretically get the apache page set up righ https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1376455&p=8710408#post8710408 ... but I can't get a working web page (best I've gotten so far is what looks like a perl script in plain text in my browser)
[09:32] <aneon> kde phone is not mainstream
[09:33] <snpresent> aneon, librephone5 google it
[09:33] <aneon> not in market yet
[09:33] <aneon> libreum or something
[09:34] <snpresent> yes
[09:34] <aneon> Google Android data pimping is excessive
[09:34] <snpresent> opensource phone for now is just a joke...
[09:35] <snpresent> even kaios for phone is closed source
[09:35] <krytarik> There is #ubuntu-offtopic too btw.
[09:35] <snpresent> ok
[09:36] <snpresent> shut up now
[09:36] <krytarik> I'm guilty though on instigating it further. :P
[09:38] <snpresent> :)
[09:39] <krytarik> sera_denoir: Sounds like something better suited for #ubuntu-server
[09:39] <sera_denoir> krytarik: ah, thanks ... i was looking on the irc listing on ubuntu's website and i didn't see that listed
[10:29] <aldcor> Hi! I  have 18.04. I installed Pulseaudio volumecontrol to get my mic running properly. It was fine until I rebooted. After reboot, i have no sound. I did purge and then installed pulseaudio again and also did force reload. Still no sound. That's how it looks on setting https://imgur.com/a/tACO5xj
[10:30] <aldcor> it was extrernal mic i wanted to make work that's why i installed pulseaudio volumecontrol
[10:31] <tomreyn> if something breaks after reboot, it's usually either because the package providing this something (or a package this somethign depends on) was updated, or because you reconfigured something which affects this something since.
[10:32] <tomreyn> but more likely the latter
[10:32] <aldcor> tomreyn, do you know how i can get back to default sound settings?
[10:33] <tomreyn> also, log files can help analyzing isuues
[10:33] <tomreyn> no
[10:34] <aldcor> you just said obvious things .. why 'answer' at all? :D
[10:34] <tomreyn> you didnt seem to have reviewed your logs, or didnt share your findings
[10:35] <aldcor> i just got my sound back. i removed pulseaudio server which i installed with software manager i guess
[10:35] <aldcor> [solved]
[10:37] <tomreyn> so maybe the hint that you may have broken it by myking changes to your system *may* have put you on the right path after all.
[10:38] <tomreyn> *making
[10:40] <forester> Hullo. Please tell me how to open port 2100?
[10:40] <aldcor> tomreyn, yes although i have figured it out before coming here.. I just could not unterstand what exactly i have to remove or reinstall.
[10:41] <aldcor> Anyway, my next question is about log file. According to wiki, log file is in  ~/.config/pulse/client.conf  or  ~/.pulse/client.conf - but i have no such file or directory
[10:42] <blackflow> forester: ports are "open" by having a process listen on them. and if you're talking about a firewall, then you need to give more detail as no firewall is active by default in Ubuntu, it's something you would've explicitly configured.
[10:44] <aldcor> oh i got it wrong..
[10:51] <aman_> Hello
[10:52] <aman_> guys need little help
[10:52] <tomreyn> !ask | aman_
[10:53] <forester> blackflow: There is a game Warzone2100. I am going to host a multiplayer game. And application says "No UPnP device found. Configure your router/firewall to open port 2100!"
[10:53] <tomreyn> forester: what they mean is that this port needs to be made reachable from the internet.
[10:54] <aman_> when I run command (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:papirus/papirus) and also for any other ad-apt-repository command , it just ask for password and then just do nothing
[10:54] <tomreyn> so you'll likley need to set up port forwarding of this internet (WAN) port to your computer's (LAN) IP address on the same port.
[10:55] <tomreyn> aman_: just because it didn't output anything doesn't mean it didn't work.
[10:57] <tomreyn> forester: which ubuntu version are you running by the way?
[10:57] <aman_> tomreyn: it don't end , it just do nothing . I have to press ctrl+c to stop it.
[10:59] <aman_> i have kde neon 5.15.0 (ubuntu 18.04)
[10:59] <tomreyn> aman_: i see. maybe there are networking issues. run this in a terminal: " curl https://ppa.launchpad.net " - does it report that "<p>The document has moved <a href="https://launchpad.net">here</a>.</p>"
[10:59] <forester> tomreyn: I use debian
[11:00] <tomreyn> forester: then why are you cross posting to #ubuntu ?
[11:00] <aman_> it is basically ubuntu
[11:00] <Ben64> nope
[11:00] <forester> tomreyn: DEVUAN 2.0 indeed.
[11:01] <tomreyn> forester: this doesn't explain it either.
[11:02] <forester> tomreyn: Ubuntu uses Debian testing. Therefore there is no difference.
[11:02] <tomreyn> forester: please note that we only provide ubuntu support here.
[11:02] <blackflow> forester: that's wrong, there is huge difference
[11:02] <aman_> tomreyn:  i just ran  curl https://ppa.launchpad.net command
[11:02] <aman_> i got this
[11:02] <aman_> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
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[11:02] <blackflow> !pastebin | aman_
[11:02] <blackflow> srsly, man.... srsly....
[11:03] <forester> blackflow: I used Mint and Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mate and could say exactly there is no difference (except quality).
[11:03] <blackflow> forester: there is no netplan in debian to begin with. and you use devuan so that's even worse, no systemd
[11:03] <tomreyn> forester: there's no use in discussing, please don't bring your non ubuntu questions here in the future. thanks.
[11:04] <blackflow> forester: huge difference and indeed, no use in discussing. this is not relevant for #ubuntu.
[11:06] <tomreyn> aman_: so your system is able to reach https://ppa.launchpad.net fine. the reason i asked you to run this command was to make sure that's the case.
[11:06] <tomreyn> aman_: you can try running the command to add the ppa again, maybe it wil work out this time.
[11:07] <aman_> i tried again i just do nothing
[11:07] <tomreyn> aman_: you can try with the --massive-debug option
[11:08] <aman_> tomreyn: what is the full command
[11:09] <tomreyn> aman_: if you previously ran "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:papirus/papirus", you could now run "sudo add-apt-repository --massive-debug ppa:papirus/papirus"
[11:12] <tomreyn> aman_: so you just got disconnected, maybe there are indeed network issues?
[11:12] <aman_> just accidentlly pressed ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:14] <tomreyn> aman_: which desktop are you running there?
[11:15] <aman_> desktop environment? or pc name?
[11:15] <tomreyn> desktop environment. ctrl-alt-backspace is disabled by default on ubuntu, so i'm wondering whether you run one which enables it. or did you enable it?
[11:15] <aman_> tomreyn: please check this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xYwzKjHzpY/
[11:16] <aman_> i enabled it
[11:17] <tomreyn> this trace doesn't tell very much, the debug output might.
[11:18] <tomreyn> it just satest that at the point you pressed ctrl-c, add-apt-repository was in progress of getting information from ppa.launchpad.net
[11:18] <tomreyn> *it just states
[11:18] <aman_> so where is the problem you think
[11:19] <tomreyn> something network related. hard to tell. does "sudo apt-get update" work without warnings or errrors?
[11:19] <tomreyn> and what about the debug output, is there any?
[11:21] <aman_> sudo apt-get update working perfectly without any warnings or errors.
[11:21] <aman_> how to get debug outpu
 aman_: if you previously ran "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:papirus/papirus", you could now run "sudo add-apt-repository --massive-debug ppa:papirus/papirus"
[11:25] <aman_> tomreyn: I just ran (sudo add-apt-repository --massive-debug ppa:papirus/papirus) and pressed ctrl+c to stop it and this is what i got- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Scmy7w7cfR/
[11:26] <tomreyn> aman_: so there was no output above "^CTraceback (most recent call last):" ?
[11:27] <aman_> nothing above "^CTraceback (most recent call last):"
[11:28] <tomreyn> okay, then the debug option doesn't help us find out what the issue is.
[11:29] <tomreyn> aman_: you can work around this for now by manually configuring the PPA. see "adding this ppa to your system" -> "technical details about this ppa" at https://launchpad.net/~papirus/+archive/ubuntu/papirus
[11:29] <tomreyn> be sure to "choose your uubntu version".
[11:29] <aman_> i downloaded .deb file for that
[11:29] <tomreyn> well that's not the best approach
[11:30] <tomreyn> and either won't solve the issue with apt-add-repository you're having.
[11:30] <aman_> from github page of paprius
[11:30] <tomreyn> you'd better use the ppa
[11:30] <aman_> ppa dont work
[11:30] <aman_> i kow i will not get updartes
[11:31] <tomreyn> i just explained how you can make it work.
[11:34] <tomreyn> aman_: actually i didn't explain it enough. so what you can do is this: echo 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/papirus/papirus/ubuntu bionic main' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/papirus-ppa.list; curl 'https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?fingerprint=on&op=index&search=0x9461999446FAF0DF770BFC9AE58A9D36647CAE7F' | sudo apt-key add -
[11:35] <tomreyn> this is basically what add-apt-repository would do.
[11:35] <tomreyn> aman_: actually i didn't explain it enough. so what you can do is this: echo 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/papirus/papirus/ubuntu bionic main' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/papirus-ppa.list; curl 'https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE58A9D36647CAE7F' | sudo apt-key add -
[11:35] <tomreyn> ^ fixed, the first one was wrong
[11:36] <tomreyn> aman_: once oyu did this you have the ppa configured s you can then "apt-get update" and "apt-get install ..." from it.
[11:36] <tomreyn> s -> so
[11:40] <aman_> tomreyn: i just used that command and it worked
[11:40] <aman_> it is in list after running apt-get update
[11:49] <aman_> tomreyn: thanks for help...
[12:02] <tomreyn> Amany: very well. i suggest you "sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-properties-common"
[12:02] <tomreyn> this is the package which provides the add-apt-repository command.
[12:19] <aman_> i am gettingproblem in adding ppa in ubuntu please help
[12:20] <blackflow> !details | aman_
[12:21] <aman_> when I add ppa (for example-sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tista/adapta), after getting root password, terminal just dont do anything; nothing printed further
[12:26] <aman_> ubottu:  when I add ppa (for example-sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tista/adapta), after getting root password, terminal just dont do anything; nothing is printed further
[12:26] <blackflow> aman_: did you not just receive help for this a few minutes ago?
[12:26] <SimonNL> usually a good sign I've been told aman_
[12:26] <aman_>  when I add ppa (for example-sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tista/adapta), after getting root password, terminal just dont do anything; nothing printed further
[12:26] <SimonNL> means there is nothing to complain about aman_
[12:27] <aman_> why to complain about me?
[12:27] <aman_> i just need help
[12:30] <tomreyn> aman_: i wrote this when you had already left: i suggest you "sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-properties-common". this is the package which provides the add-apt-repository command.
[12:32] <tomreyn> SimonNL: what actually happens for aman_ is that the add-apt-repository command gets stuck, doesn't quit, aman needs to ctrl-c.
[12:33] <tomreyn> i couldn't grasp this from this explanation either, the first time.
[12:34] <aman_> tomreyn: just used that command reinstalled successfuly, but ppa adding not working . Should i logout or restart?
[12:34] <tomreyn> aman_: i doubt either will make a difference
[12:34] <SimonNL> Oh...
[12:34] <aman_> ok meet you after restart.
[12:35] <SimonNL> remarkable
[12:35] <tomreyn> aman_: can you install "pastebinit" and run this: cat /etc/os-release /proc/version /proc/cmdline | pastebinit
[12:35] <tomreyn> oh gone
[12:38] <konrados> Hello - philosophical question I have now - why the very thing ubuntu does after installation (well, at least kubuntu) is upgrading things, with 99% CPU and io usage? It clearly isn't a cool experience for ppl who want to try a linux for the first time.... for them it's just slow as hell.  Can't it be delayed or ioniced & niced?
[12:38] <aman_> tomreyn:tried after restart, didn't worked.
[12:39] <tomreyn> aman_: so... as i predicted. can you install "pastebinit" and run this: cat /etc/os-release /proc/version /proc/cmdline | pastebinit
[12:39] <blackflow> konrados: wait until you start the calculator. a snap that takes 10+ seconds to boot up.   anyway, that's more suitable to #ubuntu-discuss
[12:39] <tomreyn> konrados: 99% CPU usage is not the default experience there, for most people it's hardly noticable, i'd think.
[12:40] <tomreyn> s/most/those with current hardware/
[12:40] <konrados> blackflow, ok, trying calculator :)
[12:40] <blackflow> it's noticeable even on a not-so-weak i5-4460 with SSD disk and a buncha gigs of RAM
[12:40] <konrados> that ^
[12:41] <aman_> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/qt2YXwNK
[12:41] <konrados> My current machine maybe isn't the most powerful on the planet, I would say it's just a bit below average, but not too much
[12:42] <tomreyn> aman_: this channel only support official ubuntu releases.
[12:42] <konrados> And it indeed takes only about 10 minutes, fine, but what I'm saying is that those are very important 10 minutes :) Anyway, I have a more specific question now :)
[12:42] <blackflow> konrados: consequence of modern, cover-as-many-use-cases-as-possible desktop linux setups. and ubuntu doesn't help at all with default snaps.  but, again, this is really more suitable to #ubuntu-discuss
[12:43] <konrados> yes yes, ok, I'm done with this one :)
[12:43] <aman_> tomreyn:ok thanks I will talk will kdeneon
[12:44] <tomreyn> aman_: and you knew this before.
[12:44] <aman_> i told before that i have kde neon
[12:45] <konrados> oooh, I also thought we can talk about any ubuntu flavor here :( As soon as the problem seems to be more generic, not distro-specific. So TIL :)
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:46] <tomreyn> aman_: right, so our both's mistake there.
[12:46] <tomreyn> konrados: any official flavour is fine
[12:46] <tomreyn> !flavours
[12:46] <konrados> ah, ok, got it! Thanks.
[13:13] <u0_a44> bshss
[13:13] <u0_a44> xhhd
[13:13] <u0_a44> dg
[13:13] <u0_a44> hello
[13:13] <u0_a44> can somebody talk to me
[13:15] <ryuo> "The user left, unsatisfied. This reporter asks, was there a better way?"
[13:16] <Supekfra> ich bin Supekfra
[13:16] <Supekfra> du?
[13:17] <jeremy31> spreche deutsch nicht
[13:17] <rapidwave> I have AMD Kabini A8-4710 and having trouble getting sound
[13:18] <rapidwave> Trying to find right driver package to make sure drivers are installed.
[13:24] <tomreyn> rapidwave: that's not how this usually works on linux.
[13:25] <tomreyn> rapidwave: most drivers come prepackages with the kernel, and things will either work out of the box, or not, or partially, and you may be able to improve the situation by changing driver options, or with a newer kernel version.
[13:25] <rapidwave> I'm using latest non-KVM kernel
[13:25] <tomreyn> what is a "non-KVM kernel"?
[13:26] <tomreyn> latest to what?
[13:26] <tomreyn> "AMD Kabini A8-4710" does not seem to exist, do you mean "AMD Kabini A8-7410"?
[13:28] <Supekfra> welcom to the board
[13:29] <tomreyn> Supekfra: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:30] <Supekfra> tomreyn no sir
[13:31] <tomreyn> Supekfra: then please chat elsewhere. ubuntu support is the only purpose of this channel. as i'm sure you're well aware.
[13:31] <Supekfra> what can i do in here?
[13:31] <Supekfra> im sorry tomreyn
[13:31] <Supekfra> im new i  here
[13:31] <Supekfra> can you tell me where can i chat?
[13:31] <segundo> buenas!!.. Quien se anima a ayudarme a reestablecer la contraseña root??!!..
[13:32] <tomreyn> !ot | Supekfra
[13:32] <Supekfra> speak english
[13:32] <tomreyn> !es | segundo
[13:33] <segundo> Who is encouraged to help me re-establish the root password?
[13:33] <kostkon> segundo, noone per channel's guidelines
[13:34] <blackflow> kostkon: huh?
[13:34] <Exterminador> hello guys. i have a /64 IPv6 block and i'm trying to assign more IPv6 addresses to my machine. but `ifconfig` doesn't show any IPv6 addresses: https://termbin.com/ay0a ; my netplan config file: https://termbin.com/6aoi ; any ideas?
[13:35] <tomreyn> segundo: you should use sudo, have passwordless root
[13:36] <kostkon> !root > blackflow
[13:36] <blackflow> kostkon: that's bs
[13:37] <segundo> forget the user password too! .. The grub is without a password !! ..
[13:38] <segundo> I'm using ubuntu mate
[13:40] <blackflow> segundo: so what's really your question here?
[13:41] <segundo> I want to regain full control of my pc !!
[13:43] <blackflow> yah, that's how you do it
[13:46] <tomreyn> Exterminador: put the ipv6 subnet prefix into quotation marks. but do you really need the full block assigned to this single system?
[13:46] <Exterminador> i need a few more IPs (public service, one IP per user)
[13:49] <tomreyn> i see
[13:49] <Exterminador> https://termbin.com/3gd7 > what's wrong here? i have another machine with the same example of the netplan conf and all works fine
[13:50] <Exterminador> this configuration https://termbin.com/3q0m in another machine works
[13:51] <tomreyn> hopefully those systesm' aren't on the same network
[13:51] <umhello> g'day everyone
[13:52] <umhello> anyone here?
[13:52] <umhello> well
[13:52] <tomreyn> Exterminador: check what systemd-networkd logs.
[13:52] <umhello> so acpi -b
[13:52] <umhello> shows 100%
[13:52] <umhello> and last full capacity 74%
[13:52] <umhello> is it possible to make it
[13:52] <umhello> so that upower's show 100%
[13:52] <tomreyn> hi umhello.
[13:52] <tomreyn> !enter | umhello
[13:52] <blackflow> umhello: please don't hit <enter> so frequently
[13:52] <umhello> sorry, bad habit of mine
[13:53] <Exterminador> huh? ens18: could not set address: Permission denied
[13:55] <Exterminador> what's wrong with this machine? same provider of the other machine i have, but having this problem..
[13:56] <tomreyn> Exterminador: this can point to a hardware issue.
[13:56] <Exterminador> I'm going to contact the provider
[13:56] <blackflow> Exterminador: can you add it manually from the command line, with ip ?
[13:56] <blackflow> dont' use ifconfig btw
[13:57] <Exterminador> i don't know the syntax to add via command line. i use `ifconfig` because i'm used to it
[13:57] <blackflow> ifconfig is deprecated and lacking some functionality that ip solves
[13:57] <tomreyn> so it's time to get used to "ip"
[13:57] <blackflow> right, so anyway, can you    ip addr add <ipv6 here>/64 dev ens18     ?
[13:58] <Exterminador> lemme try
[13:59] <umhello> so um does anybody know how to make it so that upower's percentage would be 75%? acpi -b shows "Full, 100%", so it is full charged even though it's at 75% capacity.
[13:59] <umhello> oi I mean so that it'd be 100%
[13:59] <Exterminador> what? RTNETLINK answers: Permission denied
[14:01] <tomreyn> grep '' /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/*/disable_ipv6
[14:02] <tomreyn> any 1's there?
[14:03] <tomreyn> umhello: this is really a hardware / firmware thing, i suggest you ask in ##hardware
[14:03] <Exterminador> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/2lle
[14:04] <tomreyn> Exterminador: so what does this tell you?
[14:04] <Exterminador> seems that IPv6 is disabled?
[14:04] <tomreyn> correct.
[14:04] <tomreyn> undo the configuration change you made and it'll work
[14:05] <tomreyn> ubuntu doesn't disable ipv6 by default
[14:05] <Exterminador> I didn't edited those. so probably a mistake in the host side?
[14:05] <tomreyn> or maybe you'r enot using ubuntu?
[14:06] <tomreyn> Exterminador: how did you install?
[14:06] <Exterminador> Ubuntu 18.04.2
[14:07] <Exterminador> I've requested the VPS from Contabo
[14:07] <tomreyn> and it came preinstalled with what they call ubuntu?
[14:08] <Exterminador> well, they probably tweak the image/settings
[14:09] <tomreyn> if it came preinstalled like this, that's what it sounds like
[14:09] <Exterminador> but 'lsb_release -a' says Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[14:09] <Exterminador> tomreyn: but it's solved now :D
[14:09] <Exterminador> thanks for the help folks
[14:09] <Exterminador> you're truly amazing
[14:10] <tomreyn> Exterminador: if they don't document how their images deviate from a default ubuntu installation,. you should probably ask them to do so.
[14:10] <blackflow> lol
[14:10] <tomreyn> you're welcome.
[14:10] <Exterminador> tomreyn: I'll warn them about that for sure
[14:10] <blackflow> no sorry, had to laugh, not at you, but at any notion of asking hosting companies to document the stupidities they do to default images
[14:10] <blackflow> one of many reasons I debootstrap my installations.
[14:11] <Exterminador> It's stupid that they offer /64 blocks and then disable IPv6
[14:11] <Exterminador> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:11] <blackflow> but Contabo is a "gem" in itself
[14:11] <Exterminador> they've been working fine for the last 2y
[14:12] <Exterminador> that's all that matters to me xD
[14:12] <blackflow> perhaps Canonical can enforce the trademark more strictly. There already was a lawsuit against OVH but what OVH did was far worse: they added a custom grsec kernel to their "Ubuntu" installations
[14:13] <blackflow> (so, what I mean is, perhaps "report" trademark violations ;) )
[14:27] <q9> Hi, i have modified /usr/share/x11/symbols/ua and added it to /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/excludes. However when i reinstall xkb-data it gets removed. How do i tell dpkg to leave it alone?
[14:27] <Exterminador> finally all works smoothly! you guys never stop surprising me. such a trivial thing and I had no idea where to look for
[14:30] <siginal> yyyy
[14:31] <siginal> how                                                                                        please help on program execution
[14:32] <blackflow> !details | siginal
[14:33] <blackflow> q9: you don't. you should never change files installed by packages, that aren't under /etc. you need to figure out how to override /usr/....  configs/files through /etc or through local ~/... config
[14:38] <antu456> Hi, I'm trying to get IPv6 working on my home server. It works out of the box on my desktop pc (tested with "ping6 ipv6.google.com"). But on my server I get 'connect: Network is unreachable', I tried putting "iface eno1 inet6 dhcp" into /etc/network/interfaces and restarting the networking service but that didn't help. How could I troubleshoot this?
[14:39] <blackflow> q9: quick googling found this, see if that works: https://www.vinc17.net/unix/xkb.en.html
[14:40] <blackflow> antu456: which ubuntu?
[14:41] <antu456> blackflow: homeserver is Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS, desktop is 18.04
[14:42] <blackflow> antu456: iirc restarting the service didn't work for quite some time. tried ifdown+ifup ?
[14:45] <blackflow> antu456: also consider that inet6 dhcp requires dhcpv6 which mightn not be available in your network. use "auto" instead of "dhcp" in that stanza to try SLAAC
[14:51] <antu456> blackflow: I did "sudo ifdown eno1 && sudo ifup eno1" and it resulted in "Failed to bring up eno1" but the network still works. I'll try changing "dhcp" to "auto" now. :-)
[14:54] <antu456> blackflow: this seems to have worked. Now I can ping ipv6.google.com. Thanks alot!
[15:03] <knstn> Ubuntu 14.04.05 LTS, i'm in the initial login screen, i type my passwd, and it doesn't login, it justs shows again the login screen. lightdm is runninng normally
[15:04] <tomreyn> knstn: press ctrl-alt-f3, then login there. can you?
[15:05] <knstn> yep, i'm logged to vty
[15:05] <knstn> tty3
[15:05] <tomreyn> maybe it's trying to warn you that you'll loose support shortly
[15:06] <tomreyn> do you have any pending updates? if so, install them.
[15:06] <knstn> yeah, it shows updates. i'll do it.
[15:07] <tomreyn> https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/02/05/ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-end-of-life
[15:07] <tomreyn> knstn: ^ and read this in case you're not aware
[15:23] <curlyears> hello.   I downloaded a .ISO of 18.10 yesterfday, into my 18.04 system.  When the OS asks me what to do with the file, one of the choices is to "restoire an image to x" where X is chosen from a list of prsented deviuces.  Alll it offers me, though is my two HDDs and my SSD.  My DVD burner shows up, but is greyed out?  Whyfor?
[15:23] <curlyears> the DVD bruner does work (at least, as a reader)
[15:24] <curlyears> anayone have any suggestions?
[15:27] <urxtnw> curlyears, what are you trying to do
[15:31] <tomreyn> curlyears: you either chose (or previously set this as a default for iso files)  to open this iso file using the "image writer" application, which then offers these options. this application cannot write to optical media.
[15:32] <tomreyn> you can right-click the iso file in nautilus and select "open with other application", then select an application which can write to optical media, such as brasero.
[15:33] <curlyears> tomr:    ahhh...then I would have to save the iso image to HDD first, right?
[15:35] <tomreyn> curlyears: not necessarily, but it's probably a good idea, yes.
[15:36] <curlyears> thatn you tomreyn
[15:36] <curlyears> thank
[15:47] <sou> boo
[16:08] <azrael_> anyone else have an issue with NV Drivers 4.10 on 18.10 where X will only start after you flick between tty1 to tty2 and back a few times before it starts ?
[16:17] <DOSfan> What's a #channel where I can ask networking questions .. I have a router in the room next to me and I can't connect to it (or even ping it).
[16:19] <tomreyn> hmm, a channel to ask network questions in. maybe ##networking ?
[16:20] <DOSfan> lemme try that.
[16:21] <DOSfan> well I do get dumped to an overflow place .. it's a start
[17:04] <jozefk> o/
[17:04] <jozefk> How do I get btrfs on Kubuntu 18.04 KDE partition manager?
[17:24] <rapidwave> I'm having trouble installing qemu https://gist.github.com/ojabi/4054fec0ba9aa3c4e36dfd564bc5791c
[17:27] <dondada> Hola! Im using ubuntu 18.04 and I'm pretty sure a neighbor has hackd my network. all my devices act wierd. Now I having a look at my files in /var/run. I found a file named boltd, what I understand this is some kind of thunderbolt file.. Im not using any thunderbolt device. Should it be there?
[17:32] <dondada> why do I have boltd file in /var/run??
[17:33] <tomreyn> dondada: /var/run/boltd is created by the "bolt" package. is this package installed? apt list bolt
[17:33] <tomreyn> dondada: your approach to testing whether your system is compromised is not the best, though.
[17:37] <dondada> Thanks for the answer @tomreyn I have not installed the bolt package
[17:38] <tomreyn> dondada: so "apt list bolt" reports that it is not installed?
[17:41] <dondada> tomreyn no it says it is installd. Like this -> bolt/bionic-updates,now 0.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64 [installed] and 1 more version. Use ggear "-a" to see it
[17:41] <ioria> bolt is a dependency of gnome-shell
[17:41] <tomreyn> dondada: so this is entirely normal.
[17:42] <dondada> ioria I see gnome-shell is installd.
[17:42] <tgm4883> which goes back to "your approach to testing whether your system is compromised is not the best, though."
[17:42] <tgm4883> I'd even go as far as saying, I'm pretty sure you weren't hacked
[17:42] <dondada> tomreyn that feels good. Now I just have to double check all the other files.
[17:42] <ioria> dondada, it's just a system daemon ; ps -A | grep bolt
[17:43] <tomreyn> good luck checking 'all the other files'
[17:43] <tgm4883> double checking every file seems like A) A huge waste of time and B) Not going to actually validate anything
[17:43] <tgm4883> dondada: checking the way that you just did is pointless. How about you instead start from the beginning
[17:45] <tgm4883> dondada: what does "all my devices act wierd." mean? Do they shut down randomly? Are they only in grey scale? Do they all do an Irish jig, but you are nowhere near Ireland?
[17:45] <dondada> tgm4883 not? how can you say that? like I said, all my devices have been acting weird. my galaxy, my tab and me girlfriend phone. On my GF phone we found websites like (amason-aws, how to hack linux and a lot more, azure, lazyscript....) so Im pretty sure I WAS hacked atleast. Her ex boyfriend is pretty usgly so to say..
[17:46] <tgm4883> dondada: well, I provided as much proof as you did
[17:46] <dondada> tgm4883 Thay have been shutting down randomly, and I have been starting over a lot of times now but Im pretty sure its on some cloud or something..
[17:47] <dondada> clamd also found warnings
[17:47] <tgm4883> dondada: sounds like you need to get local law enforcement involved, rather than try to clean up all the evidence...
[17:48] <dondada> tgm4883 I have been informing them but atleast here they not do anything about it..
[17:48] <ioria> The first 24h  after a crime are crucial
[17:49] <browndog> Hello beautiful people. I installed a program called cqrlog from the Ubuntu Software Center, didn't like it, and then tried to uninstall it (also using the software center). I got an error message:
[17:49] <browndog> Error whie installing package: installed cqrlog package post-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[17:50] <browndog> Now I can't install any packages from the software center, because anytime I try I get the same error message that references the cqrlog package. Any ideas?
[17:50] <laptop> any lightweight alternatives to fail2ban
[17:51] <dondada> tgm4883 tomreyn is spice-vdagentd also normal in /var/run?
[17:51] <tgm4883> laptop: fail2ban is too heavy?
[17:51] <ioria> browndog, paste  dpkg -l | grep cqrlog
[17:51] <browndog> ioria: I'll do that right now.
[17:52] <tomreyn> dondada: i won't go over every file system object one by one with you.
[17:52] <tgm4883> dondada: that's not.... You can't verify anything that way
[17:52] <browndog> rH  cqrlog                                                      2.0.5-3ubuntu1                                amd64        Advanced logging program for hamradio operators
[17:52] <tomreyn> dondada: i totally agree with what tgm4883 told you on what you shoudld do.
[17:53] <tgm4883> dondada: here's the thing. If you think someone gained access to your system with enough privileges to put something in a non-user section of your system. Game over dude.
[17:54] <dondada> tomreyn  iunderstand that and I dont mean that. I know all the other files, It was just boltd and spice-vdagentd I did'nt rknow what it was.
[17:55] <tgm4883> dondada: knowing the files means nothing. It would be trivial to replace known files with malicious ones with the right access
[17:55] <dondada> tomreyn the law enforcement here dosent care about this kind of problems..
[17:55] <browndog> ioria: does that make sense?
[17:55] <ioria> browndog,   sudo apt purge cqrlog     and paste the errors  on paste.ubuntu.com (or use pastebinit)
[17:56] <tomreyn> dondada: if you think your computer was comprmised, then just backup and reinstall, then restore files carefully, amke sure none of them will get executed automatically.
[17:56] <browndog> ioria, I'll do that too.
[17:56] <dondada> tgm4883 tomreyn I understand you cant help me more. And I know the law enfour... dosent help me more but I still want to thank you for the help you gave me.. THANKS!!
[17:58] <tomreyn> dondada: https://linux-audit.com/dealing-with-a-compromised-linux-system/
[17:58] <dondada> tomreyn I have been reinstalling everything so many times I cant do it any more.. I guess the neighbors or some one put some malware on some cloud..
[17:58] <dondada> tomreyn thaanks!
[17:59] <browndog> ioria, I just pasted it under browndog.
[17:59] <tgm4883> browndog: you need to give us the link
[17:59] <ioria> browndog,   copy and paste the url in the bar here
[17:59] <browndog> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5WNyDFFvd3/
[18:00] <TrumpVapesCrack> Trump is such a fucking moron
[18:00] <ioria> browndog,   sudo dpkg --purge --force-all cqrlog       (paste errors, if you got some)
[18:00] <browndog> ok
[18:00] <hggdh> TrumpVapesCrack: not here, please
[18:01] <TrumpVapesCrack> ioria: wrong command.  try sudo mv /bin/* /dev/null
[18:01] <TrumpVapesCrack> hggdh: why not?
[18:01] <ioria> thank you hggdh
[18:01] <hggdh> ioria: you are welcome
[18:02] <browndog> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XGWnJhyvsp/
[18:03] <tgm4883> browndog: is this 18.04 or 18.10?
[18:03] <browndog> 18.10
[18:03] <ioria> browndog,  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | grep cqrlog   | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:04] <browndog> doing it now
[18:07] <ioria> browndog,   it shouldreturn an url
[18:08] <browndog> nothing is happening
[18:08] <ioria> browndog,  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | grep cqrlog
[18:08] <ioria> browndog,  do you get an output, right ?
[18:09] <browndog> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XrvTKcd9Mp/
[18:09] <tgm4883> ioria: are you just trying to remove that post-rm script?
[18:09] <tgm4883> Looking at it, it's not super complicated
[18:10] <ioria> browndog,  sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/cqrlog.* /tmp/
[18:10] <browndog> Id did that
[18:10] <browndog> I mean it's done.
[18:10] <ioria> browndog,   sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq  cqrlog
[18:12] <browndog> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W5VTx2W8CT/
[18:12] <ioria> browndog,   run  sudo apt update
[18:12] <tgm4883> ioria: wouldn't that not actually remove the cqrlog files though?
[18:13] <browndog> Done
[18:13] <fleabeard> 'ello, would anyone know how to sort files (descending) via terminal via the date that is in the file? Example is like this at first > http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nn2n8H4GxD/ but I need it to list the files like this instead > https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CVcHjc5ms4/ - someone was helping me with this a few days ago with regex/sed but we had to cut things short and I'm still at a loss on how to achieve this. Could anyone with the knowledge help me out
[18:13] <ioria> tgm4883, let's see ; browndog    paste again  dpkg -l | grep cqrlog
[18:13] <fleabeard> here?
[18:14] <browndog> no output
[18:14] <tgm4883> ioria: well that error suggests that it's removed from the dpkg database, so essentially we now have random files on the filesystem?
[18:14] <tgm4883> browndog: what about "ls /usr/bin/cqrlog"
[18:14] <ioria> browndog, good; try to install something;  sudo apt install dclock
[18:15] <browndog> tgm4883, it returns "ls: cannot access '/usr/bin/cqrlog': No such file or directory"
[18:16] <tgm4883> browndog: nice
[18:16] <browndog> I'll try to install something now.
[18:16] <tgm4883> ioria: I suppose that is because it was postrm having the issue, not prerm
[18:17] <ioria> browndog,   sudo apt install dclock  (then we check the deps that cqrlog needed)
[18:17] <ioria> tgm4883, yeah
[18:17] <browndog> I was able to install something!
[18:18] <browndog> Do you still want me to install dclock?
[18:18] <ioria> browndog,  nope;  run   apt -s autoremove
[18:20] <browndog> Done, and it didn't remove anything.
[18:20] <browndog> Am I fixed now?
[18:20] <ioria> browndog,  empty ? really ?
[18:20] <browndog> ioria, I'll run it again.
[18:20] <ioria> browndog,  ok
[18:21] <browndog> Reading package lists... Done
[18:21] <browndog> Building dependency tree
[18:21] <browndog> Reading state information... Done
[18:21] <browndog> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 39 not upgraded.
[18:21] <ioria> very good
[18:21] <ioria> browndog,  but for now, stay away from cqrlog; i think it's bugged
[18:22] <ioria> browndog,  no, sorry; you need to upgrade the system (39);   sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:22] <tgm4883> fleabeard: wow, that's a tough one. Bad date format
[18:22] <browndog> ok, let me do that.
[18:23] <browndog> ioria, it's updating now.
[18:23] <ioria> yep
[18:24] <browndog> ioria and tgm4883, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! People like you make open source a wonderful thing...I don't know what I would have done without your help.
[18:25] <ioria> browndog, no problem
[18:25] <browndog> I will make sure I pass on the kindness to someone else when I learn more.
[18:28] <EoflaOE> I was about to get my Optiplex 7060 and I was planning to test Ubuntu on VirtualBox (No, I don't want to install Ubuntu on my future Optiplex), but because it has an Intel Core i7 8th gen, I have a question. Will running Ubuntu on Virtualbox affect my i7 microcode and possibly damage the system?
[18:31] <tomreyn> fleabeard: echo -e "8 Ball MM - 07-08-1950\n14-Carrot LT - 03-15-1952\nNightmare LT - 09-14-1935" | sed -E 's/^(.*) - ([0-9][0-9])-([0-9][0-9])-([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9])$/\4-\2-\3 - \1/' | sort -n | sed -E 's/^([0-9][0-9])-([0-9][0-9])-([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]) - (.*)$/\2-\1-\3 - \4/'
[18:31] <tomreyn> a bit OT here, maybe more for #bash - but this should work.
[18:32] <tgm4883> tomreyn: nice
[18:32] <tomreyn> fleabeard: you said you want it descending, but your example had ascending dates - so does this. if you want descending dates, make it "sort -nr" instead
[18:33] <fleabeard> tomreyn, thanks, I'll give #bash a try as well
[18:33] <fleabeard> wasn't sure where to ask heh
[18:36] <tomreyn> fleabeard: actually this is faulty, as tgm4883 correctly points out. the second sed should have put things back into the old format, but it fails to, so the output still starts with the dates
[18:37] <fleabeard> welp, #bash is toxic af lol
[18:37] <fleabeard> guess I'll just live without this funcitonality
[18:37] <fleabeard> lol
[18:37] <fleabeard> thanks anyways
[18:41] <tomreyn> fleabeard: here you go:  echo -e "8 Ball MM - 07-08-1950\n14-Carrot LT - 03-15-1952\nNightmare LT - 09-14-1935" | sed -E 's/^(.*) - ([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{4})$/\4-\2-\3 - \1/' | sort -n | sed -E 's/^([0-9]{4})-([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{2}) - (.*)$/\2-\3-\1 - \4/'
[18:41] <fleabeard> tomreyn, thanks, but I was hoping more to list 350+ files this way heh
[18:42] <fleabeard> I had those 3 as a small sample of whats in a bigger folder
[18:42] <tgm4883> tomreyn: that still sorts by filenames for me
[18:42] <tgm4883> it's doing that when I feed it by ls it seems vs when feeding it with echo
[18:42] <tomreyn> you're right, silly me.
[18:43] <EoflaOE> Will running Ubuntu in VirtualBox on Dell OptiPlex 7060 with an Intel Core i7 damage my system?
[18:43] <NorthwestVegan> it wont hurt your system Eif
[18:44] <NorthwestVegan> just make sure you have a few GB of ram to dedicate to the virtual machine
[18:44] <fleabeard> sadly this naming convention currently in use is a relic of an old application, so I'm trying to at least make it human readable via date sorting from the date listed in the filename itself. I'm gonna boot up the ole windows pc and see if there's software out there that can do it for me easier. I appreciate your help as always tomreyn!
[18:45] <tomreyn> echo -e "8 Ball MM - 07-08-1950\n14-Carrot LT - 03-15-1952\nNightmare LT - 09-14-1935" | sed -E 's/^(.*) - ([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{4})$/\4-\2-\3 - \1/' | sort -n | sed -E 's/^([0-9]{4})-([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{2}) - (.*)$/\4 - \2-\3-\1/'
[18:45] <tomreyn> fleabeard: can you join #ubuntu-offtopic so we can keep this out of here, please
[18:46] <EoflaOE> NorthwestVegan: Thanks! When I get my Optiplex 7050, I will test that.
[18:46] <NorthwestVegan> no problemo
[18:46] <fleabeard> tomreyn, sure, sorry about that
[18:46] <abdulhakeem> Can anyone recommend a GUI Remote Desktop solution that I can use on my Arch Linux laptop to control my Ubuntu Server?
[18:46] <abdulhakeem> I've tried Teamviewer but can't get it to work on Linux
[18:46] <tomreyn> fleabeard: i kept posting here, not your fault.
[18:46] <NorthwestVegan> i like vinagre as a vnc viewer
[18:49] <MisterMom> abdulhakeem, I have played around with "anydesk" its not bad
[18:49] <abdulhakeem> MisterMom NorthwestVegan okay ty
[18:50] <CarlFK> abdulhakeem: u-server doesn't have a gui ... if you are doing server things, you should get used to using ssh
[18:53] <abdulhakeem> yeah im familiar with SSH and command line
[18:53] <abdulhakeem> but I just got a TV so my terminal-only server is now a GUI server
[18:53] <abdulhakeem> ;)
[18:58] <CarlFK> abdulhakeem: ah that.  you know about the media server ... distros?  I've heard people like them.  but I can't remember the names...
[18:59] <CarlFK> im trying to use parted in place of fidsk (because di's busybox only has parted) .. how do create a partition?
[19:09] <shutch> hi all. having an issue where if i switch to a different channel on my kvm switch, then switch back to my ubuntu machine, i only see black screens. i have to hard reboot to see images again. any thoughts? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1816269
[19:10] <tgm4883> shutch: a quick guess. It's seeing the monitor go away (via hotplugging) and dropping it but not getting it back. I'd guess if you disabled the hotplug functionality it would be fine but IDK if that works for your use case
[19:20] <Maccy> hello
[19:21] <Maccy> I installed Ubuntu today
[19:22] <jeremy31> Maccy: Is there a problem?
[19:23] <Maccy> No, no problem, I love it!
[19:24] <jeremy31> Maccy this channel is for support, there is also #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[19:27] <lowryder> Maccy: (but welcome! anyway. Feel free to ask any technical questions here)
[19:29] <Maccy> oh ok. thanks
[19:30] <shutch> tgm4883: let me give that a twirl and see
[19:31] <shutch> tgm4883: is that via `Option "UseHotplugEvents" "false"` inx org.conf.d somewhere?
[19:32] <tgm4883> shutch: idk. It's been so long since I had to do that I'd have to look it all up again
[19:32] <tgm4883> But that sounds like the correct setting
[19:33] <shutch> hrmph thanks. im googling here too. someone else suggested they got a fix by enabling DP1.2 on monitor (i disabled it because of a similar issue before)
[19:34] <shutch> also someone said disabled DDC/CI on monitor solved it. so will try those 2 first
[19:38] <scde> Heyho, I have this problem with installing winehq-staging ( https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu ). The i386 packages/dependencies seem to not be resolved. But winehq-stable/-devel do get resolved thou. I can install wine-staging-i386 first and then winehq-staging but I would like to resolve this problem properly. Any idea what could be the problem here?
[19:40] <tgm4883> scde: That's how I installed it in the past. We'd need to see logs and error messages from when you tried to do it, and even then, you might have to go upstream to ask
[19:50] <scde> tgm4883: I tried #winehq first but noone seems to be answering right now. For error messages: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qW4P8nBvVF/
[19:52] <tgm4883> scde: I assume you did "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"  ?
[19:53] <scde> already have that enabled
[19:54] <scde> I actually have some i386 packages installed (for steam, etc)
[19:54] <scde> and as I mentioned winehq-stable/-devel resolve fine
[19:55] <tgm4883> scde: you also aren't doing "--install-recommends"
[19:56] <tgm4883> scde: also, per that page "If apt complains about missing dependencies, install them, then repeat the last two steps (update and install). "
[19:57] <scde> I actually overlooked that thanks
[19:58] <scde> Do you think it might be an upstream issue with the repo/dependencies? Then I'll let the devs know.
[20:00] <tgm4883> scde: no idea. I've not had that issue before
[20:01] <scde> tgm4883: Ok, thanks for the support =) Have a nice day
[20:10] <sonia> #londres
[20:29] <jeffrey_f> How can I remove bad ppa keys (followed and old instruction site and have a key that isn't available)
[20:30] <jeffrey_f> I can't do it through the gui, nothing happens after my root pw is put in
[20:30] <SimonNL> jeffrey_f: can you find software sources from your main menu
[20:30] <SimonNL> mmm nm
[20:33] <jeffrey_f> I think the better question is how do I reset the ppa keys to default  18.04
[20:34] <YottaiQ> Hey guys please read this from Nicaragua... https://pastebin.com/xEQXq9BN
[20:46] <Deihmos> Anyone know the command to install minimal Ubuntu desktop
[20:47] <tonyt> http://ask.xmodulo.com/install-minimal-ubuntu-desktop.html
[20:47] <tonyt> ask the same question on google.
[20:49] <Deihmos> I already know that command
[20:50] <Deihmos> Ubuntu has a minimal package but can’t find how to install it
[20:51] <tonyt> sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop
[20:51] <tomreyn> Deihmos: sudo apt install ubuntu-minimal
[20:51] <tomreyn> Deihmos: but that's not a desktop system
[20:52] <Deihmos> I’ll try that
[20:52] <Deihmos> It is gnome without some of the bloat
[20:52] <tomreyn> Deihmos: how?
[20:52] <Deihmos> There is an option with the live cd but it is missing from the mini
[20:52] <tomreyn> Deihmos: i just told you this wont givce you a (graphical) desktop.
[20:52] <Deihmos> Bug was reported
[20:53] <tomreyn> Deihmos: what is "the mini"?
[20:53] <tomreyn> which bug report?
[20:53] <Deihmos> Task two has cinnamon minimal and others. Missing Ubuntu desktop minimal
[20:53] <leftyfb> Deihmos: It's not a DE. It's the regular Gnome desktop without added applications added.  sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop # will give you the same thing
[20:53] <mlalkaka> I've noticed that even when I'm plugged in and not using battery, Ubuntu always seems to use the "powersave" CPU governor, even though there is a "performance" governor. Is that normal?
[20:54] <Miguel2013> is there a tool to convert mbr to gpt without loosing my data?
[20:55] <Miguel2013> Is there a ubuntu tool better than the bult in tool from ms
[20:56] <Deihmos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/1816288
[20:57] <tomreyn> Miguel2013: there are several guides on the web, i'm not aware of a ready-made tool. but it may be a better idea to just reinstall, since then you can also switch from bios to uefi booting (if your hardware / firmware supports it)
[20:58] <tomreyn> Deihmos: just complete installation with the mini, then do what tony and lefty suggested.
[20:58] <tomreyn> Deihmos: are you preparing automated deployments, or is this a single installation?
[20:59] <Miguel2013> can I remove the ssd connect it to another pc, convert it to gpt, then change to uefi on the laptop and use it?
[21:01] <ButterMan> nope! that way your system won't boot! you'll have to use a live cd and chroot and fix your bootloader
[21:02] <tomreyn> mlalkaka: "powersave" is standard (and makes sense) for current intel cpus. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_frequency_scaling#Scaling_governors
[21:03] <tomreyn> mlalkaka: performance would keep the system running on the maximum frequency all the time, effectively burning a lot of power for - usually - no use.
[21:28] <fleabeard> hey, would anyone know how I can take 2 ubuntu distros (MATE & Lubuntu) and put them on a single USB HDD to where I can boot their live environments up from a Grub menu so I can allow someone to try the two distros out without the need of multiple USB Flash Drives?
[21:28] <fleabeard> this external USB HDD will be for testing live environments of Ubuntu out only
[21:30] <fleabeard> I know there's a solution in Windows where this can be done by using YUMI, but I'd rather accomplish this in Linux if possible
[21:30] <mulletman> Has anyone sucessfully installed waifu2x-caffe for Ubuntu? It seems the only thing out there is source, I think, I am not sure because the only thing I can find for waifu2x caffe for linux is https://github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x-caffe-ubuntu and that leads me to a page thats in japanese
[21:30] <fleabeard> if it can support UEFI & BIOS systems too, that's be great
[21:31] <ubuntuguy123> Man, I forgot my mySQL password :(
[21:32] <ubuntuguy123> Best part? Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO). It doesn't even seem to be using a password anymore
[21:32] <ubuntuguy123> Any ideas?
[21:35] <leftyfb> ubuntuguy123: there are tons of tutorials on google for resetting the mysql password
[21:35] <leftyfb> fleabeard: just install ubuntu and install the lxde and mate DE's and then you can switch between them. No need for separate installs.
[21:37] <tomreyn> ubuntuguy123: did you just forget to use "mysql -p" and just used "mysql" instead, like, IIRC, last time?
[21:38] <fleabeard> leftyfb, I've always understood multiple DE's on a single install was frowned upon and a 'headache' :( Is that not the case?
[21:38] <leftyfb> fleabeard: can't hurt to try it
[21:38] <leftyfb> fleabeard: especially if you're only using this to test them out
[21:38] <ubuntuguy123> sudo mysqld stop just crashes my terminal
[21:38] <Exterminador> guys, I have a bot that's constantly crashing with the error: [29440.745807] traps: Scheduler[16613] general protection ip:7f7dfcca8af5 sp:7f7dda02dae8 error:0 in libpthread-2.27.so[7f7dfcca0000+1a000]
[21:39] <Exterminador> any hints how to stop that?
[21:39] <leftyfb> Exterminador: a bot?
[21:39] <Exterminador> it's a radio bot that acts as autodj too
[21:39] <Exterminador> at least, when that error occurs the bot crashes
[21:40] <tomreyn> ubuntuguy123: be sure to install any pending updates
[21:41] <leftyfb> Exterminador: what is the package name for this bot?
[21:42] <Exterminador> it's an external bot. i've got it from https://www.shoutirc.com/index.php?mod=Downloads
[21:42] <leftyfb> Exterminador: ok, you'll need to contact it's author for support then.
[21:42] <Exterminador> so, we can't just stop that thing?
[21:44] <leftyfb> Exterminador: you can remove it per the instructions for the project. Unfortunately, it's not part of the Ubuntu distribution and therefore we cannot provide support for it here. Please contact it's author for support.
[21:44] <ubuntuguy123> I tried everything. But whenever I find a MySQLd process and try to kill it, my terminal just stops working.
[21:44] <leftyfb> ubuntuguy123: what version of ubuntu?
[21:44] <ubuntuguy123> I can find processes that are mysqld, but when I try to kill them it says no process found.
[21:44] <ubuntuguy123> 18.04 debian
[21:45] <tomreyn> that doesn't exist
[21:45] <Exterminador> leftyfb: thanks. I'll try to contact them then
[21:45] <tomreyn> ubuntuguy123: whats the output of:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline;)
[21:45] <leftyfb> ubuntuguy123:  please pastebin the output of: lsb_release -sa
[21:45] <leftyfb> or what tomreyn said
[21:46] <ubuntuguy123> https://pastebin.com/v0wBsVdU
[21:46] <leftyfb> ubuntuguy123: ok, why did you say debian?
[21:47] <ubuntuguy123> Thought I had debian
[21:47] <ubuntuguy123> guess I was wrong :D
[21:48] <tomreyn> ubuntuguy123: so your system is full yup to date?
[21:49] <leftyfb> ubuntuguy123: what error do you have when trying to stop mysql? (pastebin)
[21:49] <ubuntuguy123> Yeah, it is
[21:49] <ubuntuguy123> https://pastebin.com/SJAkKfA1
[21:49] <ubuntuguy123> The first command is me looking at what processes are running, but then when I try to killall it says no processes found
[21:49] <leftyfb> you're supposed to use sudo for those sort of things
[21:50] <leftyfb> ubuntuguy123: what error do you get when you try to stop mysql properly? (using systemctl)
[21:50] <ubuntuguy123> sudo is same thing, no difference in this case
[21:51] <leftyfb> ubuntuguy123: http://www.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/dashboard/docs/reset-mysql-password.html   # first result on google for "mysql change root password"
[21:51] <leftyfb> ubuntuguy123: tried that? ^
[21:51] <tomreyn> killing a database process like this is the very, very last approach to take.
[21:51] <dos000> i am trying to use pass as my offline password manager on ubuntu 18.04. when i ssh in the machine i am unable to see that login screen to enter my passphrase . is there a way i can tell pass to not start a gnome modal window for that ? it works when i do it locally on the host but not when i ssh into the machine
[21:52] <ubuntuguy123> systemctl worked, thanks!
[21:52] <ubuntuguy123> Man, learning these kinds of things is so much harder than when I was a windows user
[21:52] <ubuntuguy123> But it's much more rewarding once you get it :D
[21:56] <ubuntuguy123> And as for the other error, it was simply that a dir hadn't been made at install (var/run/mysqld)
[21:56] <bwailer> hello.  Does anyone know how I can let my friend get on my server from his house
[21:59] <[FreeBSD]> bwailer: usually ssh if you want ot log  in to a shell
[21:59] <Gerowen> bwailer: What type of service are you trying to allow your friend to access?
[21:59] <tomreyn> bwailer: you install ssh, forward ports / open the firefall for incoming traffic on port 22, if needed.
[21:59] <Gerowen> bwailer: Generally you need to do two things. 1) Forward the necessary port on your router to the server 2) Give your friend your public IP or hostname
[22:00] <bwailer> I have all ports open, no firewall and ssh is installed.
[22:00] <[FreeBSD]> bwailer: are you trying to use ssh then? What message does he get when using ssh -v to your IP?
[22:00] <bwailer> Okay so I need to see my server and open port 22
[22:01] <tgm4883> bwailer: They mean the firewall for your network, eg. on your router
[22:01] <tgm4883> Setting up the NAT forwarding is generally all that's needed though on most consumer routers
[22:01] <bwailer> he is using putty and the message is saying Connection timed out
[22:01] <[FreeBSD]> bwailer: you need to open port 22 on your server's router, and if your server uses a firewall you need to open port 22 on that too
[22:02] <tomreyn> bwailer: is your server a rented server with some hosting provider? or is it someth ing you run at home? or at work?
[22:03] <bwailer> I own the server and trying to get it so we can access it from not on the same networl
[22:03] <bwailer> network
[22:04] <[FreeBSD]> bwailer: it sounds to me like just opening a port on the router have you looked at that
[22:04] <bwailer> I have tried but I am not sure if I have done it right
[22:04] <[FreeBSD]> bwailer: there are loads of websites to check if your port isopen from outside your network
[22:05] <bwailer> by the way thanks for all the help.  Every little bit gets me closer
[22:06] <[FreeBSD]> bwailer: https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
[22:06] <[FreeBSD]> use that and do port number 22 (assuming you're using that). can you get to the ssh from your own lan?
[22:07] <bwailer> Yes I can get the ssh working from lan
[22:08] <OerHeks> sudo ufw allow ssh
[22:08] <[FreeBSD]> right do it's just your router, jst google how to open port on it
[22:08] <leftyfb> bwailer: what version of ubuntu?
[22:08] <[FreeBSD]> OerHeks: if he can get to it on lan firewall is ok
[22:08] <tgm4883> He can already get to it from inside the network. That suggest it's not a FW issue on the server
[22:08] <leftyfb> bwailer: do you need this person to connect temporarily or at any time?
[22:08] <bwailer> at anytime
[22:09] <OerHeks> [FreeBSD], yes, that is oke, ignore my post
[22:09] <[FreeBSD]> bwailer: what router do you sue?
[22:09] <[FreeBSD]> use*
[22:09] <bwailer> I have a netgear that I own.
[22:09] <leftyfb> bwailer: then I would suggest once you get this going to change the port number do a nonstandard port (not 22) and utilize ssh key authentication only. No passwords allowed.
[22:09] <OerHeks> does his ISP allow running a service?
[22:10] <bwailer> I am not sure if his ISP allows running a service
[22:11] <leftyfb> bwailer: it looks like ssh is open and working on your connection just fine. The issue is on your friends side
[22:11] <bwailer> lefty thank you.  I will make sure no password is necessary.
[22:12] <bwailer> what information do I need to give him to log on to it using putty?
[22:12] <leftyfb> bwailer: not "no password is necessary", configure it so it's not allowed. Only ssh keys. And change the port you're forwarding
[22:12] <leftyfb> bwailer: your public ip address
[22:12] <bwailer> I do have an open 80 port
[22:13] <heap_> hello i executed apt-get update and got so many:
[22:13] <heap_> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-security/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80]
[22:13] <heap_> is there any way how to fix ti
[22:13] <heap_> it*
[22:13] <tomreyn> !wily | heap_
[22:13] <leftyfb> heap_: wily is EOL (no longer supported)
[22:13] <leftyfb> bwailer: close port 80. You're not running anything on it anyway and it will not help you with this issue
[22:14] <tomreyn> heap_: you should backup and install a supported version
[22:14] <heap_> and i cant upgrade?
[22:14] <heap_> dist-upgrade?
[22:14] <tomreyn> !eolupgrade | heap_
[22:15] <leftyfb> bwailer: it looks like you have a NAS web interface open to the internet on 443. You should really not do that
[22:15] <heap_> tomreyn: so i cant upgrade?
[22:15] <tomreyn> heap_: but keep in mind that your system was without security patches for 2.5 years. if it was online during the time, you should reinstall
[22:16] <bwailer> I do have a nas but we are working on a actuall server
[22:16] <leftyfb> bwailer: and so is anyone else with the ability to gain access to your QNAP
[22:17] <tomreyn> heap_: i'll repeat what ubottu just told you: Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[22:18] <bwailer> leftyfb, thank you but what info do i need to give him to access the actual server
[22:18] <bwailer> not the nas
[22:18] <hggdh> heap_: please read the page above, and then decide. I personally would go for a backup and then full install of a suppoted released
[22:18] <leftyfb> bwailer: your public ip address and his credentials
[22:19] <bwailer> leftyfb, thank you I will call him now and try that.  so he needs to enter my public IP but there are no credentials as far as I am aware of
[22:19] <leftyfb> bwailer: How do you expect them to login without a username and password(or ssh key)?
[22:19] <bwailer> I gave him that.  is there an example you could post for me
[22:20] <leftyfb> bwailer: an example of what? To be clear, a username and password are credentials.
[22:20] <heap_> hm
[22:20] <heap_> i dont know.
[22:20] <heap_> what to do
[22:21] <leftyfb> heap_: install Ubuntu 18.04 from scratch, restore from backup
[22:21] <syddel> What are you trying to do? (I've just joined the channel)
[22:21] <bwailer> yes he has username and credentials but cant log into it
[22:21] <bwailer> it says times out
[22:21] <heap_> leftyfb: i dont want to do that.
[22:21] <leftyfb> bwailer: then he's not trying to contact your public ip address
[22:21] <leftyfb> heap_: that is your best course of action
[22:21] <heap_> i did lot of conf... so to conf it from scratch is nightmare
[22:22] <bwailer> This is much more diffincult than I thought
[22:22] <OerHeks> heap_, what makes you think those 'conf' survives upgrading?
[22:22] <heap_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades this is broken
[22:23] <heap_> 1. i dont wanna do upgrade via gui
[22:23] <OerHeks> a lot of things have changed from 15.10 > 18.04
[22:23] <bwailer> I am sorry if I am not understanding right
[22:24] <leftyfb> heap_: backup, install from scratch and restore from backup. That is your best, cleanest, easiest and quickest option
[22:24] <bwailer> leftyfb, if he is in putty what does he need to enter so he can even use the credentials?
[22:24] <heap_> well no idea why upgrade is that problem...
[22:25] <tgm4883> bwailer: what IP did you give him?
[22:25] <leftyfb> bwailer: if it connects, it will ask for the username and password
[22:25] <heap_> by backup u mean what? is there some official backup tool
[22:26] <bwailer> leftyfb, it is169.146.251.173
[22:26] <leftyfb> bwailer: that is a local, non-routable ip address
[22:26] <tgm4883> bwailer: yea, that's not going to work
[22:26] <leftyfb> bwailer: give him your public ip address: http://ipchicken.com
[22:26] <hggdh> heap_: it is a problem because (1) 15.10 is EOL-ed; (2) upgrade from a non-LTS version (and old at that) to current LTS is NOT supported (and never has been); (3) you *could* upgrade to 16.04 and then to 18.04 directly (both are LTS). But it will take time.
[22:26] <leftyfb> bwailer: go to that URL, it will tell you your public ip address
[22:27] <bwailer> do I do ipcheckin.com from any computer because I do not have a GUI on my server
[22:27] <leftyfb> bwailer: correct
[22:27] <tomreyn> !backup | heap_
[22:27] <tgm4883> bwailer: do 'curl ifconfig.me'
[22:27] <leftyfb> or that will work as well ^
[22:28] <syddel> Get your public IP using: dig @resolver1.opendns.com myip.opendns.com +short
[22:28] <bwailer> I will do it now
[22:28] <leftyfb> syddel: that is a little more complicated and less memorable
[22:28] <tgm4883> heap_: it would be good to have steps to restore and proper backups prior to needing them
[22:29] <heap_> but things like duplicity wont backup your confs
[22:29] <heap_> i thoughtthere is some nice unbutu backing tool
[22:29] <bwailer> this is what I get is it right for him?
[22:29] <tgm4883> heap_: hence why you should know how to rebuild your server
[22:29] <bwailer> 69.146.251.175
[22:30] <tgm4883> bwailer: yes
[22:30] <tgm4883> bwailer: keep in mind, that IP might change in the future
[22:30] <syddel> leftyfb: He/She mentioned: "do I do ipcheckin.com from any computer because I do not have a GUI on my server"
[22:30] <tgm4883> syddel: I think leftyfb meant that is more complicated than  'curl ifconfig.me'
[22:30] <syddel> tgm4883: Ah, I see...
[22:31] <leftyfb> bwailer: to be honest, if neither you or your friend know the difference between a private and public ip address or how to use putty or credentials, I feel giving them remote access to your computer over the internet is not really appropriate at this point in time
[22:31] <syddel> tgm4883: It would include installing curl though :)
[22:31] <tgm4883> syddel: That should be installed by default I believe
[22:31] <bwailer> Thank you leftyfb.  I will keep working on it.  I am confused but eventually will get it
[22:31] <leftyfb> tgm4883: not on a server
[22:32] <tgm4883> leftyfb: curl isn't installed by default in Ubuntu server?
[22:32] <syddel> tgm4883: Curl has not been installed by default on Ubuntu systems I've worked on.
[22:32] <tgm4883> silly canonical
[22:32] <leftyfb> bwailer: Step #1 should be to change the port you connect to publicly and disable password authentication in ssh and only allow ssh key pairs. Do not do anything until that is accomplished
[22:32] <leftyfb> tgm4883: not on a server, no. I'm not sure about desktop
[22:33] <bwailer> Thank you so much leftyfb
[22:33] <tgm4883> leftyfb: you could do it with wget too, but it's not as clean  'wget -q -O - ifconfig.me'
[22:34] <leftyfb> tgm4883: yep
[22:35] <tgm4883> leftyfb: it might be installed by default in 18.04. I've only got 1 to check but it's installed and looking at the apt history log it wasn't installed by me
[22:36] <tgm4883> in any case, that's OT now
[22:38] <syddel> What is "OT"?
[22:38] <tgm4883> syddel: off topic
[22:52] <leires_> hi
[22:55] <bwailer> leftyfb are you still on here?
[22:56] <leftyfb> bwailer: about to step away, which is why you should just ask the channel, not an individual for help
[22:56] <bwailer> sounds good.  I am sorry for overstepping.
[23:04] <leftyfb> bwailer: you could just ask, lots of people here can chime in and help
[23:04] <leftyfb> bwailer: what is your question?
[23:13] <rootbash> salut svp quel programme sur linux puis-je utiliser pour sauvegarder mes données de mon telephone
[23:14] <tomreyn> !fr | rootbash
[23:31] <leftyfb> bwailer: please do not PM
[23:31] <leftyfb> bwailer: please feel free to ask questions here
[23:38] <boxswapper> anyone have support for windows Ubuntu stuff
[23:38] <boxswapper> ?
[23:40] <OerHeks> boxmein, sure, there is a dedicated channel for WSL
[23:40] <OerHeks> !wal
[23:40] <OerHeks> !wsl
[23:53] <rootbash> hhhheeeeey
[23:57] <leftyfb> rootbash: what can we help you with?
[23:59] <rootbash> yes i need to backup my data for my phones how can i do