[00:04] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl: this is bashism then? wpBg=$(grep 'BgColor=' $settingsFile) ... wpBg=${wpBg:8}
[00:05] <lubot> <teward001> that sounds like a wordpress-ism
[00:05] <wxl> yep
[00:05] <lubot> <teward001> ah, my bad.
[00:05] <teward> wait
[00:05] <teward> wxl: who were you replying to :P
[00:05] <wxl> you could use `` instead of $()
[00:05] <teward> wxl: ehhhhh
[00:05] <wxl> but that substring bit is totally unportable
[00:06] <teward> wxl: last time I checked ` ` is recommended to $() not backticks
[00:06] <wxl> teward: not you, go back to your caffeine drip, you junkie
[00:06] <teward> wxl: what caffeine drip?  *sips on coffee*
[00:06] <teward> :P
[00:06] <wxl> um those ARE backticks
[00:06] <teward> wxl: i didn't say `` is recommended.
[00:07] <teward> i said that the recommendation is to repalce `` with $() calls
[00:07] <teward> i mistyped that
[00:07] <teward> but i'm sorta being bumped around and crap in the hospital waiting room here
[00:07] <wxl> i don't think that's portable in /bin/sh but could be wrong
[00:07] <teward> so blah.
[00:07] <teward> wxl: well are we talking about Bash or Dash?
[00:07] <wxl> /bin/sh
[00:07] <teward> because they're different :P
[00:07] <wxl> and ultimately, POSIX-compliance
[00:07] <teward> you mean Dash :p
[00:08] <wxl> no
[00:08] <teward> /bin/sh is symlinked to Dash in *buntu
[00:08] <teward> so
[00:08] <teward> yes
[00:08] <wxl> but that's as close as it gets
[00:08] <teward> you do
[00:08] <teward> i'll leave you be :)
[00:09] <wxl> for example in free bsd, $() fails
[00:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> but that substring bit is totally unportable], but actually what i want to get is what is after the =, I know that is after the 8 position, that is why I substring it.
[00:17] <wxl> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40771231/how-to-check-substring-in-bourne-shell
[00:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl: this is not bashism?
[00:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> j=$((j + 1))
[00:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> or more general
[00:32] <wxl> it is, afaik
[00:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> OUT=`/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check` ...         IFS='x' ...         j=0 ...         for STRING in $OUT; do ...             case $j in  ...                 0) ...                     upg=$STRING;; ...                 1) ...                     security=$STRING;; ...             esac ...             j=$((j + 1)) ...         done
[00:36] <wxl> j=`expr $j + 1`
[00:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> These features are not required by POSIX. ... foo=$((n++)) can be replaced with foo=$n; $((n=n+1)) foo=$((++n)) can be replaced with foo=$((n=n+1))
[00:45] <wxl> it won't work EVERYWHERE
[00:45] <wxl> i use freebsd as the ultimate test
[00:45] <wxl> but maybe that's a bad test :)
[00:46] <wxl> i guess for our sake if it works in dash, you'll probably be ok
[00:46] <lubot> <HMollerCl> jeje I got it from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[00:46] <wxl> that yeah
[01:12] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl: you understand set — $var as good option? ... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14594033/does-dash-support-bash-style-arrays
[01:14] <wxl> doesn't work in bsd
[01:14] <wxl> arrays, afair, are not supported at all
[01:21] <wxl> and indeed that's not an array!
[01:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> any ideas on how to run qterminal with a command and don't close it?
[01:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> -e close it
[01:31] <lubot> <HMollerCl> for example $qterminal -e "apt update"
[01:31] <wxl> i seem to remember combating that in a bug report but don't remember the answer
[01:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I might give up with aptdaemon and thing that the best way to call an upgrade is to open a terminal and execute "sudo apt dist-upgrade"
[01:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> there is no info from aptdaemon during installation, only for download
[01:35] <wxl> could you keep it open via a desktop entry somehow?
[01:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I'm trying that, but after all, the only problem  is that if it gives an error you won't know
[01:36] <wxl> so that's the reason why you're trying to keep it open?
[01:38] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yes
[01:38] <wxl> there's no aptdaemon way to raise errors???
[01:39] <lubot> <HMollerCl> it supose to, but apparently there are problems with kernel updates
[01:39] <wxl> hm
[01:40] <lubot> <HMollerCl> today it has given me all the time that are 26ish updates I install with the gui says it fine, but keep pointing me that are updates
[01:40] <lubot> <HMollerCl> and during a long update, sometimes you might think it freeze, that's why I would better use a shell instead
[01:40] <wxl> makes sense
[01:41] <wxl> headed home, talk soon
[01:41] <lubot> <HMollerCl> see you soon
[03:18] <lubot> <kc2bez> Has anyone seen the latest daily iso?
[03:21] <lubot> <tsimonq2> No, have you?
[03:21] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yes, still Gnome with a default debian wallpaper now.
[03:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Siiiigh.
[03:29] <lubot> <kc2bez> What if we seed `notification-daemon`?
[03:35] <lubot> <tsimonq2> We need to explicitly seed lxqt-notificationd
[03:35] <lubot> <tsimonq2> On it
[03:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED593c496dd877: Seed lxqt-notificationd.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED593c496dd877
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGd5b769f8be5e: Bump version for new upstream release] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGd5b769f8be5e
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGb42f54916619: Update copyright file] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGb42f54916619
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGbe947c963522: Bump Standards version to 4.3.0] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGbe947c963522
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGbda4e5682b41: Remove patches for XDG directories] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGbda4e5682b41
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING70eeb2d1a065: Remove the XDG patch files.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING70eeb2d1a065
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING43082b84df59: Remove trailing whitespace in rules] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING43082b84df59
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGc161736ecdb9: Add https for copyright format uri.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGc161736ecdb9
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGe33270e5950b: Update lintian-overrides] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGe33270e5950b
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING9ccad8fde233: Run wrap-and-sort.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING9ccad8fde233
[04:01] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @kc2bez ^
[04:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING60fcdce43713: More Copyright updates.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING60fcdce43713
[04:03] <lubot> <kc2bez> Your filling my inbox @tsimonq2 :)
[04:04] <lubot> <tsimonq2> >:D
[04:05] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Congrats on the upload!
[04:05] <lubot> <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/3.2.4-0ubuntu1
[04:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING7b9786437aff: Add changelog entry I missed.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING7b9786437aff
[04:07] <lubot> <kc2bez> Thanks for the help!
[04:09] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Anytime!
[04:09] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @kc2bez Wanna work on that typo fix PR too? ;)
[04:11] <lubot> <kc2bez> I will try to get to it tomorrow. If not it may have to wait until the end of the week.
[04:11] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Cool!
[04:11] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Take your time :)
[04:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'm gonna hit the hay early tonight
[04:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Thanks y'all!
[04:12] <lubot> <kc2bez> Thank you!
[05:04] <lynorian> back I am alive
[05:06] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Heeeey!
[05:07] <lubot> <tsimonq2> We missed ya
[05:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALebf73131bc5e: Add export as pdf from menu] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALebf73131bc5e
[05:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6e0dd51b96fd: Add another way to change font color] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6e0dd51b96fd
[10:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [Yes, still Gnome with a default debian wallpaper now.], So gnome-shell os still presenta?
[10:31] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yes it was. Not sure if the iso has rebuilt or not, I haven't checked. Simon added lxqt-notificationd to the seed.
[10:57] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [Yes it was. Not sure if the iso has rebuilt or not, I haven't checked. Simon add …], I thought you were sleeping
[10:58] <lubot> <kc2bez> I'm up early, usually by 5 on work days.
[11:02] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Are you on the easy coast, then?
[11:02] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yes, I am in NY.
[11:06] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Good, someone timezone-near
[11:08] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yeah we are stretched out a little with our timezones.
[12:17] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl Could you take a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1801439
[12:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I will, s
[12:24] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Thanks!
[12:24] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl I saw your screenshot in another channel
[12:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> (Photo, 710x440) https://i.imgur.com/eKqRVqO.jpg
[12:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Could you maybe look at wrapping the text?
[12:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Otherwise it looks good!
[12:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> wxl: Look at this! ^^^^ :D
[12:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [Could you maybe look at wrapping the text?], ok, but I think the priority for now should be update-notifier, or this?
[12:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> for running it. $lxqt-sudo software-properties-qt —open-tab=4 ... now the .dekstop should added/fixed.
[12:31] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [ok, but I think the priority for now should be update-notifier, or this?], Probably update-notifier, yeah
[12:31] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Got a link? We can package that
[12:31] <lubot> <HMollerCl> pm
[13:28] <wxl[m]> You are amazing @HMollerCl
[13:31] <wxl[m]> lynorian adding a section on SDDM configuration would probably be extremely valuable since we currently don't have a good method of configuring.
[16:20] <lynorian> wxl[m]: Have you thought what chapter to put that in?
[17:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL291c957f7ccc: Lessen annoying wrong chapter numbering somewhat] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL291c957f7ccc
[18:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL91cba2bfe894: Update to explict where chapters should be and some conf file changes] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL91cba2bfe894
[18:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3321316e1278: rm erronous .conf.py.swp] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3321316e1278
[18:54] <wxl> lynorian: 3.1 maybe?
[19:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbb1bad49161c: Add changes for spec.rst outline for new chapter for sddm config] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbb1bad49161c
[19:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9f540105a6a2: Add manual partitioning screenshot this was badly needed] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9f540105a6a2
[19:45] <lynorian> anyone else having a problem in kvm on input on the latest daily on a kvm vm?
[19:50] <lynorian> I can't get any text input right now what package should I file a bug against
[19:52] <lubot> <kc2bez> I haven't tested today's daily. Is it still Gnome?
[19:53] <lynorian> no
[19:54] <lynorian> it is lxqt
[19:54] <lubot> <kc2bez> Well that is an improvement. I will check it later this evening when I get home.
[20:36] <lynorian> bug 1816665 ugh
[20:36] <ubot93> Bug 1816665 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 19.04 daily no keyboard  input on live session" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1816665
[21:14] <kc2bez> lynorian: The new iso works in virtualbox. I will try it again later in KVM.
[21:19] <lubot> <lynorian> @kc2bez might be best to comment that on the bug will help narrow down what is causing it
[21:26] <lubot> <kc2bez> I will in a bit.