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| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbe763c71d566: add change space above/below paragraph] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbe763c71d566 | 01:53 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALed894d8f58db: Finish loimpress indetns and spacing tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALed894d8f58db | 01:57 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc521faf1833e: Add summary of alignment tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc521faf1833e | 02:37 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe2aa47310695: Add more options to Alignement tab of loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe2aa47310695 | 06:13 | |
| lubot | Imus12 was added by: Imus12 | 09:37 |
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| lubot | <HMollerCl> @lynorian wxl: tested yesterday daily, shortcuts including Meta/Super key doesný match our manual. | 12:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Meta open Menu | 12:06 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> (Photo, 800x672) https://i.imgur.com/Qzkjb1L.jpg yesterday daily. Papirus (not dark) icons looks good. About LXQt, Skanlite, Screenshot, and all the other problematic appear white. | 12:11 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Yeah, it is much more visible. | 12:13 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I will install it to see if it changes something. In my "rolling" installation skanlite, screenshot, about lxqt and nm-tray appear black. | 12:14 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> when changing to papirus (not dark). | 12:15 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> My 19.04 machine updated the icons automatically. | 12:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> good! maybe because i play to much I broke something. | 12:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> can't log into phab | 12:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Unhandled Exception ("InvalidArgumentException") ... Value provided to "replaceQueryParam()" for key "scope" is NULL. Use "removeQueryParam()" to remove a query parameter. | 12:18 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Hmm, I was already logged in on this machine, let me try another one. | 12:19 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I got the same error. | 12:20 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> We should probably ping @tsimonq2 and @teward001 ^ | 12:23 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> icons: nope, doesn't work | 12:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> at least in live | 12:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> is papirus-dark w/o colorize set. | 12:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> pcmanfm-qt looks bad in live | 12:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I think I know the problem. Will try to fix today. | 12:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mmm, apparently it hasn't landed https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fdisco/src/ | 12:41 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/hZmlmGV.jpg Must be I changed mine. | 12:43 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> looks good | 13:56 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> have you managed to configure notifications right? | 13:56 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T184: Define and Implenet Default Settings for touchpad] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T184 | 14:42 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T185: Define Default settings for notifications] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185 | 14:45 | |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @HMollerCl [have you managed to configure notifications right?], Still tweaking that. I am tempted to disable it. Most of the applications I use already have some sort of notification archive anyway. | 15:14 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I have disabled for now. | 15:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez we shoudl also define touchapd default settings, do you use lubuntu on a laptop? | 15:39 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Yes, I have both a laptop and desktop. | 15:40 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> we need to define this https://phab.lubuntu.me/T184 maybe make a poll? | 15:42 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Define and Implement Default Settings for touchpad: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T184 | 15:42 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> we could make it in twitter, to encgache auddience. | 15:43 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3c9efa9ab8f7: Fix warning in sddm_configuration] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3c9efa9ab8f7 | 16:31 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL58d4ba929d0f: Add how to edit the file in featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL58d4ba929d0f | 16:56 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2ea445544f2f: Add sddm disable autologin] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2ea445544f2f | 17:03 | |
| lynorian | Is there a reason we have the keyboard shortcut control +Alt + Up in openbox? It does not seem to do anything by default and makes it so you can't use keyboard shortcut in libreoffice to reorder lists in libreoffice writer | 17:50 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @lynorian [<lynorian> Is there a reason we have the keyboard shortcut control +Alt + Up in …], not that I know | 17:57 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdd8f9e09d7aa: Start reorganizing tables for openbox shortcuts as they make little sense being…] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdd8f9e09d7aa | 18:01 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL143ab998301f: Now even more human readable] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL143ab998301f | 18:06 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd5be36fe96e1: Make brightness keyboard shortcuts human readable] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd5be36fe96e1 | 18:10 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL047c4c825b81: Remove wrong line about lxpanel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL047c4c825b81 | 18:14 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe36c97a7ce34: Add human readable description to openbox keyboard] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe36c97a7ce34 | 18:16 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa47caef1cf76: Add descrptions for sending to desktop] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa47caef1cf76 | 18:33 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL06fdbe1ae721: Describe backlight shortcuts better] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL06fdbe1ae721 | 18:40 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 why hasn't this landed? https://phab.lubuntu.me/D57 | 20:47 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] change icon theme to papirus (not dark) and colorize on widget style (icon_follow_color_scheme) false.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D57 | 20:47 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Uh, good question, sorry... | 20:49 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> another question, today is feature freeze, what means that? | 20:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> No more new features in existing packages unless we get an exception | 20:52 |
| wxl | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze | 20:52 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> ^ | 20:53 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2 [No more new features in existing packages unless we get an exception], But this is the tl;dr | 20:53 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 any idea on how should we deal with .desktop for software properties? create our own or remove the noDisplay=true from the master? | 20:58 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 any idea on how should we deal with .desktop for software properties? …], The latter | 20:59 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ok, we had in lxqt a .desktop to launch directly he "additional driver tab" was this https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main/view/head:/data/software-properties-drivers.desktop.in | 21:01 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> but know i lauches the -gtk version | 21:02 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> my problem is that only we want that version | 21:02 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> so, NotShowIn=GNOME;KDE; is enough? | 21:02 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I think you can do `OnlyShowIn=LXQt;` to do what you want @HMollerCl | 21:07 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [another question, today is feature freeze, what means that?], https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2019-February/001255.html | 21:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @kc2bez [I think you can do OnlyShowIn=LXQt; to do what you want @HMollerCl], Ahh, yes | 21:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> thanks @kc2bez ! | 21:10 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Np anytime. | 21:11 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> now?! | 22:02 |
| kc2bez | o/ | 22:03 |
| lynorian | \o | 22:04 |
| guiverc | o/ | 22:04 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: oh fearless leader | 22:07 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I'm in a car | 22:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Everyone else go first | 22:08 |
| lubot | <N0um3n0> @tsimonq2 [I'm in a car], Driving? | 22:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @N0um3n0 [Driving?], Stop lights and talk-to-text don't count | 22:08 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> shoould I go first? | 22:09 |
| kc2bez | Sure go ahead. | 22:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ok. Most important thing is that software-properties-qt now has additional driver tab | 22:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I'm working now into making icons appear | 22:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I mean, .desktop icons | 22:11 |
| lynorian | cool | 22:11 |
| kc2bez | Awesome! | 22:12 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> there is still some merged needed @tsimonq2 for debconf. I don't know if tehre are additional drivers that need debconf but if they are currently don't work | 22:12 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I want to start packaging update Norifier | 22:13 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I have a problem thoug, how upgrades are handled. | 22:13 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> discover and muon are not great for upgrades. Discover is slow and muon cannot be started with upgrade tab on. | 22:13 |
| lynorian | I have only really used discover on my beefy desktop and I don't notice slowness there | 22:15 |
| kc2bez | Yeah, discover isn't that bad on my desktop. | 22:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> So I try to make our own upgrade. But I've not being totally successfull. I mage a graphic but I don't get information during the installation process, sometyimes faield and I get no info. I tried to open a terminal, but after it completes it close it and don't know the exit status. | 22:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @lynorian [<lynorian> I have only really used discover on my beefy desktop and I don't noti …], I haven't been able to run discover in a 2Gb core duo2 @1.83. It tottaly freeze my laptop | 22:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> and that's for me this week I think. | 22:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ojjjj, sorry for my typos | 22:17 |
| lynorian | I have been quite busy I did relatively little for me | 22:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> you were on vacations I thouht. | 22:18 |
| kc2bez | No worries Hans, thanks for the update. | 22:18 |
| lynorian | For part of it but then came back to get stuff done | 22:18 |
| kc2bez | It looks like you have been getting some good stuff in the manual lynorian | 22:19 |
| lynorian | I filed bug 1816665 | 22:19 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1816665 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 19.04 daily no keyboard input on live session" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1816665 | 22:19 |
| kc2bez | I did try to reproduce on my disco install but I didn't try on my cosmic machine. What is your host? | 22:21 |
| lubot | <lynorian> lubuntu 18.10 | 22:21 |
| lynorian | I tried to start some of the sddm configuration to the manual but have found that going to be a bit difficult | 22:21 |
| lynorian | Today I noticed several parts of appendix F for keyboard shortcuts would be really hard to understand if you don't grok openbox config files so I did a few changes on that | 22:22 |
| lynorian | also more of libreoffice impress stuff with spacing and indents | 22:22 |
| lynorian | I also realized in the openbox config control+alt+up and control+alt+down are used but we have openbox intercept these for a shortcut that does not work by default | 22:23 |
| kc2bez | Appendix F looks much better, Awesome! | 22:23 |
| lynorian | Appendix C now has how to open nano as that is the most new user friendly command line text editor | 22:24 |
| lynorian | I also added how to customize quick launch in the panel | 22:24 |
| lynorian | and making a pdf I have compelted that but the problem is the chapter numbering is really wierd | 22:25 |
| lubot | <SamuelBanya> Since I'm now above ground on the train home: @wxl I'm waiting on Walter's response email. That's my only update this week. | 22:26 |
| lynorian | that is it for me on this week | 22:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I have one question regarding manual | 22:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> what about differente versions? | 22:27 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> it's incremental or all version is anew manual? | 22:27 |
| lynorian | Well for that I need to make a branch in git | 22:27 |
| lynorian | and the build will need to checkout the branch | 22:28 |
| lynorian | so I should probalby make a branch for 18.10 and continue development in master | 22:29 |
| lynorian | I think that answers all your question? | 22:29 |
| guiverc | :) @ lynorian (quick launch info - I already found it REALLY useful!) & Thanks (from me & other dumb users) | 22:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @lynorian [<lynorian> I think that answers all your question?], yes, thanks! | 22:30 |
| * lynorian is done | 22:30 | |
| kc2bez | Thanks lynorian, fantastic work! | 22:31 |
| kc2bez | guiverc: Anything for us? | 22:31 |
| guiverc | I've done nothing, so nothing to say except sorry. (i've got a new [2009] box I'll setup for lubuntu, but haven't found my dvi-vga convertors to make use of it yet [wanted due packaging issues, & yeah my stuff (freebies) is all that old!]. FYI if anyone needs testing in OLD equipment (HMollerCl), I may be useful! | 22:32 |
| kc2bez | Cool, that should be good for testing some stuff. | 22:33 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ok, thanks! | 22:34 |
| kc2bez | wxl: What is new with you? | 22:35 |
| kc2bez | While we wait I can go. | 22:39 |
| kc2bez | With a lot of help from @tsimonq2 I was able to get the Calamares packaged. | 22:40 |
| kc2bez | This may help with https://phab.lubuntu.me/T171 | 22:40 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] make Calamares work well with smaller screens: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T171 | 22:40 | |
| kc2bez | One of the things that was added was the ability to set window size. | 22:41 |
| kc2bez | From the release announcement "In particular, the setting windowExpanding can be set to normal, fullscreen or noexpand." | 22:42 |
| kc2bez | fullscreen might help with that, I don't know though, I haven't tested it. | 22:43 |
| kc2bez | I think that is it from me, @tsimonq2 or wxl you back? | 22:44 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> wxl time | 22:45 |
| wxl | ok here work jeez | 22:54 |
| wxl | life has been extra insane for me lately, but i did a little triage | 22:54 |
| wxl | and generally lent some feedback to support work others are doing | 22:54 |
| wxl | at least i'm not totally useless :) | 22:54 |
| kc2bez | Far from it. ^ | 22:55 |
| wxl | well, i just haven't been at the level of activity i'd like to be at | 22:55 |
| wxl | i think i'm going to go to the hotel that no one else is going at for lfnw and just hide in my room and get stuff done at night | 22:55 |
| wxl | meanwhile i'm sure @tsimonq2 will be blowing up my phone | 22:56 |
| kc2bez | XD | 22:56 |
| wxl | WHERE ARE YOU WHERE ARE YOU OMG THEY HAVE FREE BREAKFAST XD | 22:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> XD | 22:57 |
| wxl | that's it for me, really | 22:57 |
| kc2bez | Thanks for everything you do! | 22:58 |
| * wxl shrugs :) | 22:58 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I forgot | 23:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I created 2 tasks. | 23:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T184 | 23:05 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Define and Implement Default Settings for touchpad: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T184 | 23:05 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185 | 23:05 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Define Default settings for notifications: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185 | 23:05 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> define default settings for touchapd and notifications. | 23:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I propose: ... - disable notifications ... - touchpad: tap to click, two finger scroll, no acceleratio | 23:06 |
| wxl | i liked your settings for the first one. you should include that screenshot. my vote is just do it unless you hear someone complain within the next week | 23:06 |
| wxl | why disable notifications, though? just because of the volume key changes? | 23:06 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> why disable notifications, though? just because of the volume key changes?], I ended up disabling i. | 23:07 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> was to much, and the notifications that are important still appear | 23:07 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> i'ts only that they are not stored | 23:08 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> the unatended notifications | 23:08 |
| wxl | oh hm | 23:08 |
| wxl | please put that in the task | 23:08 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> done, I updated the title | 23:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> for touchpad, I was thinking we could make a poll in tweeter, to engage audience. | 23:10 |
| wxl | i think phab has a poll thing | 23:10 |
| kc2bez | tbf what you proposed is normal for most distros I think. | 23:11 |
| wxl | ^^ that's another approach. see what others are shipping | 23:12 |
| kc2bez | Having the ability to easily change it will be nice for those that don't care for the defaults. | 23:14 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> actually, I don't use other distros | 23:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> unless someone thinks win10 is another distro. | 23:16 |
| kc2bez | It is a user experience that we should consider I suppose. | 23:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> but I believe that the standard is tap to click and 2 finger for scrolling. Not sure aboout acceleration | 23:17 |
| kc2bez | I think that can vary more on device than OS. | 23:18 |
| lubot | docEbrown was added by: docEbrown | 23:22 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Oh hey! | 23:22 |
| lubot | <docEbrown> hey! Long time no see. Sorry!!!! Been slammed at work. Keen to get going again | 23:23 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It's alright :) we'll get you back into it | 23:24 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> How've you been otherwise? | 23:24 |
| lubot | <docEbrown> Outside of super busy at work pretty good you? How's studies? | 23:25 |
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