[00:00] <arpad2> so I have to add nomodeset after "quiet splash" or instead?
[00:01] <tomreyn> arpad2: oh you don't have this already?
[00:01] <tomreyn> thought you did
[00:01] <tomreyn> oh you have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" - effectively same result
[00:03] <tomreyn> arpad2: try this:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nouveau.modeset=0 nvidia-drm.modeset=1"  and this:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[00:03] <arpad2> ok
[00:13] <arpad2> tomreyn: it's working! thanks!🙂
[00:14] <arpad2> so, was this optimus specific issue?
[00:16] <arpad2> though Nouveau is in use, hopefully it will work with Nvidia as well
[00:38] <tomreyn> arpad2: at least we got noveau working, nice.
[00:43] <AlexMax> Question.  What determines what version of clang is pinned to 'clang' package/
[00:43] <AlexMax> I notice that installing 'clang' on ubuntu 16.04 gives me clang 6.  But 7 is available in the repo.
[00:43] <arpad2> tomreyn: yes, Thank you! I will try Nvidia another day. So in every new distro these grub settings might change.
[00:44] <AlexMax> wait did I say 16.04, I meant 18.04
[00:46] <tomreyn> arpad2: basically, yes. ideally, though, and if the hardware manufacturers cared enough about it, software and drivers would work uot of the box.
[00:52] <thaurwylth> Does the Xfce (or it could be some GNOME derived thing, what do I know) Minesweeper have any keyboard keys useful for controlling? I have this Thinkpad touchpad and it has a pretty frustrating feature. Occasionally it takes a no matter how careful and precise left click to mean a right click. It would be nice if there was some way of controlling the Minesweeper with keys instead of the emulated mouse.
[00:55] <tomreyn> AlexMax: the packagers. clang is probably a meta package which defines what gets installed by default. apt-cache show clang | grep -E '^(Version.*|Source.*|Depends.*|)$'
[00:55] <AlexMax> *nods*
[00:56] <tomreyn> AlexMax: you can then probbaly switch between which of your installed clang compilers will be used by the "clang" command using update-alterantives. this would list any switchable commands: update-alternatives --get-selections | grep clang
[00:57] <tomreyn> (you may also want to look for *llvm*)
[00:59] <tomreyn> 07IABE3MN 7JTAA591Y Noisette Noisette_ Noisette__: would one user suffice for your needs?
[01:01] <tomreyn> thaurwylth: maybe it interprets a long click as right click there? i think this can be disabled, if so. you'd then need to use the right click button, but maybe this would be acceptable?
[01:02] <tomreyn> this said, i'd totally recommend a mouse for this important office task.
[01:04] <thaurwylth> Currently I'm sitting in a configuration where USB mouse is not going to be feasible. I'll need to think about those pad gesture things. I have not felt like there's any particular pattern, mainly through web use, this Minesweeper case I noticed only just now.
[01:04] <thaurwylth> But that not noticing any pattern thing might be simply because I didn't know what to look for.
[01:07] <andrej> IMHO the upgrade from lxd-3.0.2 to 3.0.3 broke my ability to launch containers with local profiles. How can I get the previous version back for testing? If I do an apt-cache madison lxd I only get offered lxd-3.0.0 and 3.0.3 ... downgrading to 3.0.0 fubars the installation completely
[01:16] <AlexMax> Dang.  If I download clang/llvm from the llvm project, I can't convince it to fit into update-alternatives
[01:55] <7JTAA591Y> fakirs
[01:56] <leftyfb> 7JTAA591Y: can we help you with something?
[01:56] <OerHeks> 07IABE3MN 7JTAA591Y Noisette Noisette_ Noisette__ grinn
[01:57] <leftyfb> interesting
[01:58] <whoareU> my goldendict need invocation command-line script to speaker, i write as follows:bash -c   .pico2-tts.sh   "$(cat "%GDWORD%")",but it not  work,
[01:59] <whoareU> how to write it correctly
[02:03] <leftyfb> !repeat | whoareU
[02:04] <rootkali> dtggr
[02:06] <rootkali> I want to instal kali linux in my virtual box
[02:06] <OerHeks> sorry rootkali, not supported here
[02:08] <DoctorMilwaukee> hey i'm on a old computer 14.04, trying to repair a new one. It seems none of my sources are connecting when I try to install software. mainly, usb-creator-gtk
[02:09] <Epx998> ya'll could have said ya broke your stuff eariler, meh.
[02:14] <DadeMurphy> hacking
[02:14] <DadeMurphy> gibsons for life
[02:14] <leftyfb> DadeMurphy: can we help you with something?
[02:14] <DadeMurphy> yeah
[02:14] <DadeMurphy> i need the password off the modem at ellington minerals and what time does god goto sleep?
[02:15] <leftyfb> DadeMurphy: trolling is offtopic here. Please try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:15] <DadeMurphy> uhm
[02:15] <DadeMurphy> gentoo 4  life
[02:15] <DadeMurphy> fuck ubuntu
[02:15] <DadeMurphy> arch is way cooler
[02:16] <OerHeks> pwgen -y 16384
[02:17] <OerHeks> might fit A4 print
[02:18] <DoctorMilwaukee> hey my usb-creator won't let me create a startup disk. the thumb drive is a 32gb but it's only reading at 29 gb. i suppose the latter is an old "table?"
[02:19] <OerHeks> make it fat32
[02:19] <DoctorMilwaukee> i formatted the thumb at question but it still seems
[02:19] <DoctorMilwaukee> oh ok
[02:20] <sn09smc> Is there a guide for smoothing out GRUB if dual booting? Right now I have to type into GRUB a few commands when it comes up to decide between Windows and Ubuntu.
[02:22] <DoctorMilwaukee> is there any other utilities other than gnome-disks and unetbootin to make a iso thumb drive?
[02:23] <sn09smc> DoctorMilwaukee, have you tried to use dd command?
[02:25] <DoctorMilwaukee> sn09smc: no but i'm about to :0
[02:25] <DoctorMilwaukee> ;)
[02:25] <DoctorMilwaukee> how do you do it? or do you want me to man it?
[02:25] <sn09smc> DoctorMilwaukee, are you using Ubuntu and putting a Linux iso on a thumb drive?
[02:26] <DoctorMilwaukee> sn09smc: yes
[02:26] <mobile_c> is "Ubuntu for mobile" considered stable
[02:26] <sn09smc> DoctorMilwaukee, ok, hold on. I'll find my reference link...
[02:27] <mobile_c> also is it able to run XORG applications such as KDE Kate, Dolphin, Android Studio, and so on
[02:27] <mobile_c> or can it only run the standard Android applications and no actual XORG applications
[02:27] <tomreyn> DoctorMilwaukee: personally i use https://etcher.io
[02:28] <sn09smc> DoctorMilwaukee, this is an OK explanation of it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_flash_installation_media#Using_dd
[02:28] <sn09smc> Basically I do 'lsblk' without the USB in to see my partition. Then plug in the flash drive, do 'lsblk' again, see what's new. The size should match you thumb drive
[02:29] <DoctorMilwaukee> sn09smc: tomreyn ty
[02:29] <thaurwylth> Some systems will randomly have problems with booting from a 32 GB stick, but that will be found out only later.
[02:29] <tomreyn> this douns good, yes.  dd bs=4M if=path/to/archlinux.iso of=/dev/sdx status=progress oflag=sync
[02:29] <tomreyn> *sounds
[02:30] <sn09smc> then I do 'sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX status=progress' where /dev/sdX is the partition from lsblk.
[02:30] <sn09smc> I've used the same terrible 4GB thumbdrive for KDE Neon, Elementary, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu MATE, Solus, several others, installing or live booting on multiple PCs, no problems.
[02:34] <DoctorMilwaukee> how do you list drives with fdisk -l ???
[02:36] <OerHeks> in a tty/terminal
[02:36] <tomreyn> where "drives" refers to "hard disk drives"?
[02:37] <tomreyn> or partitions? or file systems as in "i am confused by some GUI-only OS which uses weird names"?
[02:55] <UForgotten> has anyone reported being unable to do a xenial virt-install today? I have been building VM's this whole week but now for some reason they segfault halfway through.
[03:21] <Elronnd> I have a bug to report
[03:21] <Elronnd> where should I go to report it?
[03:21] <TimeDoctor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[03:22] <Elronnd> anyway to do it without registering an account?
[03:22] <Elronnd> --or, someone want to do it for me?  Should be a one-liner
[03:26] <OerHeks> a proper bugeport needs more than that
[03:26] <OerHeks> !bug
[03:29] <swift110> sup
[03:35] <Sveta> Elronnd: have you signed up?
[03:49] <nshirelaptop> does ubuntu need a separate partition to store hibernation data?
[03:49] <cim209> doesn't it use the swap partition?
[03:50] <cim209> or swap file
[03:50] <nshirelaptop> dunno, I don't have the option to hibernate atm
[03:50] <nshirelaptop> windows uses separate partitions for hibernate and swap, so I don't know what to expect with ubuntu
[03:51] <nshirelaptop> idk if storing hibernate data in the swapfile would make sense
[03:52] <cim209> well i normally make a separate partition for swap
[03:55] <OerHeks>  a fresh 18.04 lts install uses swapfile
[03:59] <nshirelaptop> thanks
[04:00] <coldpres1> hey all, I know this is the wrong channel, and I know my question doesn't make sense, but how do I execute `make` in a Google Cloud container-optimized OS?
[04:08] <antonyb> hey guys i have abit of a noob question, im currently using  ubuntu 18.04 gnome  if i wanted to use ubuntu mate would i have to completely reinstall ubuntu all over again?
[04:08] <mrelcee> in files, other locations My system is not giving me an active connect buttin when I type in an nfs:// address    is there something I am missing?  (ubuntu 18.04.2)
[04:09] <ledeni> antonyb:  no you can use both gnome and mate
[04:10] <antonyb> ledeni: would it be possible to install mate then remove the default ubuntu gnome enviroment?
[04:10] <Bashing-om> !info ubuntu-mate-desktop bionic | ledeni
[04:11] <Bashing-om> ledeni: Apologies ... antonyb ^^ .
[04:12] <ledeni> Bashing-om: ok
[04:13] <mrelcee> ssh/afp/smb all work but nfs is a big nope...   and I have existing nfs mounts i my fstab so ai know nfs is working
[04:19] <Reneflov> Hi
[04:20] <Reneflov> How can I adjust the brightness of my monitor from within Ubuntu?
[04:20] <Reneflov> "And remember, PWM is on up to around 60% brightness, so run them bright and use your video card's brightness controls to dim the output levels."
[04:20] <Reneflov> Need to use my video card to adjust the brightness.
[04:22] <ledeni> Reneflov: more info what DE you use and version of ubuntu
[04:23] <Reneflov> I use MATE if it matters. I'm using the latest LTS.
[04:23] <el_tigro2> I'm in VirtualBox VM running ubuntu and I'm trying to list out all the hardware using commands like lshw, lspci, lsusb... just for fun
[04:24] <el_tigro2> one thing I've noticed is that none of these commands seem to list out the keyboard model. Any idea why and which command I could use?
[04:26] <ddevault> I'm having issues debootstrapping a xenial image
[04:26] <ddevault> var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-4.4.0-143-generic.postinst: 50: /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-4.4.0-143-generic.postinst: linux-update-symlinks: not found
[04:26] <ddevault> this is marked as fixed in launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-base/+bug/1766728
[04:28] <ledeni> Reneflov: Control Centre - Power Management - Display On AC Power tab:Set Display Brightness to:- there is a slider,
[04:33] <Reneflov> ledeni: I don't see that. Is that because I'm not using a laptop?
[04:33] <Reneflov> I went to Power Management + Display.
[04:34] <ddevault> this is my sources.list https://sr.ht/72xf.txt
[04:34] <Reneflov> Don't have any option in Power Management to adjust the brightness of my display.
[04:34] <ddevault> in this case $release is "xenial"
[04:36] <ledeni> Reneflov:
[04:38] <ledeni> Reneflov:  install 'sudo apt-get install xbacklight' and try to set brightness like 'xbacklight -set 50' there 50 stands for brightness range we can get it upto 100 from 0
[04:41] <ddevault> I'll have to sort it out tomorrow
[04:45] <Reneflov> ledeni: Is that the same idea as brightness-controller?
[04:45] <Reneflov> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/05/install-brightness-controller-utility-in-ubuntu-16-04-higher/
[04:45] <Reneflov> I just installed this.
[04:45] <Reneflov> Is xbacklight better?
[04:47] <Reneflov> I think this brightness-controller works well, but since I installed it I lost my Redshift icon.
[04:48] <ledeni> Reneflov: yes but you find better solution
[04:48] <Reneflov> ledeni: How do I install the xbacklight?
[04:48] <Reneflov> ledeni: How do I UNinstall the xbacklight?
[04:49] <Reneflov> sudo apt-get remove xbacklight <-- this worked.
[04:49] <Reneflov> OK, so I am using brightness-controller to dim my backlight, but now I want my Redshift icon back.
[04:50] <Reneflov> Gtk-Message: 21:50:24.944: Failed to load module "topmenu-gtk-module" <-- this is the error message I get when I load GTK gui interfaces.
[04:50] <Reneflov> Can you help?
[04:55] <Reneflov> After upgrading from Ubuntu MATE 16.04 to 18.04 I am seeing this error message while starting virtually every GUI program (e.g. caja, mate-terminal, mate-calc, pluma, gvim, soffice, google-chrome, firefox).
[04:59] <TabMasher> Reneflov: Have you tried #ubuntu-mate
[05:00] <mal10c> this channel is so quiet any more
[05:01] <Reneflov> so i'm now using my monitor at brightness 65 but turned down in my ubuntu using brightness-controller
[05:01] <Reneflov> this is supposed to be better for my eyes
[05:01] <Reneflov> do you think so?
[05:02] <Reneflov> because the monitor flickers if it's set to lower brightness. now i'm using the software to lower the brightness.
[05:20] <grayrider> ns
[05:20] <grayrider> ?
[05:21] <grayrider> ns identify
[06:08] <kakarott> hi, i am new to python i know a little I can't build anything on my own help much appreciated
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> kakarott: you have issues with python, or the ubuntu part of python?
[06:12] <kakarott> issues with python i cam't create anything i learn from python
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> kakarott: ask in the #python or #programming channel please
[06:14] <kakarott> this is my first time using an IRC
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> kakarott: i doubt it, i saw your nick here before
[06:16] <kakarott> maybe it's another kakarott
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> right, well this is the ubuntu support channel here kakarott
[06:22] <kakarott> I am interested in learnimg linux also which is the best way to learn linux i have been using ubuntun for six years now
[06:22] <tarzeau> kakarott: are you familiar with the terminal?
[06:22] <kakarott> yes
[06:22] <c06> hi all i am trying to enable ovs+dpdk in my machine and i facing following error. |dpdk|EMER|EAL: Failed to lock hugepage directory!;  |dpdk|ERR|EAL: Cannot get hugepage information.
[06:23] <tarzeau> so you're familiar with search using your favourite search engine and $BROWSER for "linux command line cheat sheet" ?
[06:23] <c06> i have 12 GB of hugepages in my machine any suggestions.?
[06:27] <kakarott> NO what i just read from you i think you know more about the ternimal than i do
[07:37] <chinger> hi
[07:38] <chinger> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'capstone'
[07:38] <chinger>  what will do it?
[07:52] <togod> Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS): The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER. I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body! Thank you! - CHAUL JHIN KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL)
[07:57] <krytarik> chinger: Install either the package 'python-capstone' or 'python3-capstone', depending on the used Python version.
[08:06] <EoflaOE> I have installed lxqt into my Xubuntu installation to see if it worked properly. I could set it to make it work according to my needs. I have installed Dolphin and kate and they both worked, although my Athlon XP 1500+ does not have SSE2. The only remaining change is I need to set the dark theme for QT and for GTK3, and the desktop icon fonts.
[08:06] <EoflaOE> How can I do them when outside GNOME?
[08:10] <unimatrix9> hello there
[08:10] <unimatrix9> i just installed linux-generic-hwe-18.04 kernel, how can i check it actually running ?
[08:11] <ducasse> unimatrix9: 'uname -r' will give you kernel version
[08:11] <unimatrix9> hmm, it shows : 4.18.0-15-generic
[08:12] <unimatrix9> does that mean its not running ?
[08:12] <ducasse> that's the hwe kernel
[08:12] <unimatrix9> ah cool
[08:12] <unimatrix9> thanks for the info
[08:12] <ducasse> np
[08:19] <unimatrix9> ok, going for a reboot..  bye
[08:23] <EoflaOE> If I have installed lxqt, then debloated it by removing various unused packages and apt-get says that "lxqt" is going to be removed, is "lxqt" a metapackage? Does removing it make damage?
[08:27] <usuario_> l
[08:27] <usuario_> l-ò
[08:30] <franquito> hola tioooo
[08:30] <franquito> popo
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> !es | franquito
[08:31] <franquito> hola brooo
[08:31] <franquito> hay alguien
[08:31] <franquito> ?
[08:31] <franquito> hello brooo
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> english only here franquito
[08:32] <franquito> where are you from
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> franquito: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <franquito> do you like franco
[08:32] <franquito> ?
[08:33] <franquito> I want to suck your pussy
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> !ops | franquito disturbing
[08:34] <jackle_chan> 有说中文的朋友么?
[08:34] <AtomVelvet> Hi. What's the proper way to install pip for python3.7?  I'm on 18.10
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> !zh | jackle_chan
[08:35] <franquito> mi mom is fight with me i scared
[08:35] <franquito> hacks to alt+f4
[08:36] <franquito> helloooo
[08:38] <franquito> i kill you bicht
[08:38] <kkdvak> holii
[08:38] <salmonete> ooooo
[08:38] <franquito> HOLIII
[08:39] <AtomVelvet> !ops
[08:39] <kkdvak> me gusta el porno
[08:40] <franquito> Y A MI
[08:40] <franquito> ME GUSTA MIA KHALIFAAAAAA
[08:40] <cim209> lol
[08:41] <franquito> como te llamas?
[08:41] <franquito> estoy mojadito
[08:41] <niko> franquito: could you stop now ?
[08:42] <franquito> im sorry
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> AtomVelvet: ask blackflow he's our pip expert
[08:45] <blackflow> AtomVelvet: eh, the python3-pip ?
[08:45] <franquito> whats its pip blockflo?
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> franquito: /join #ubuntu-discuss i have a question for you
[08:46] <franquito> what?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> franquito: do you know howto join a channel?
[08:48] <franquito> no, do you teach me please?
[08:48] <AtomVelvet> blackflow: That's for python 3.6 though
[08:49] <blackflow> AtomVelvet: ah indeed. well if you have 3.7 installed, you'll have to use a virtualenv
[08:49] <Pollagordanegram> hello
[08:50] <AtomVelvet> blackflow: I ran get-pip as root, according to the guys in #python this was not a good idea
[08:50] <blackflow> AtomVelvet: it's not. never run pip as root
[08:50] <blackflow> AtomVelvet: how did you install 3.7 on cosmic? backported from the dancing doggo, or from source?
[08:50] <AtomVelvet> Well .. shit
[08:51] <AtomVelvet> blackflow: https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/python3.7
[08:51] <Pollagordanegram> i am new here
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> !support | Pollagordanegram welcome
[08:51] <blackflow> AtomVelvet: ah right. yeah, use a virtualenv. you must not be pip-installing anything outside of a virtualenv anyway
[08:52] <usuario> hi
[08:52] <franquito> whats its pip and virualenv?
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> franquito: /join #ubuntu-discuss i will tell you
[08:53] <usuario> i don
[08:54] <franquito> i cant enter
[08:54] <niko> franquito: why a second connexion ?
[08:55] <Pollagordanegram> i dont now nothing about this , someone can help me?
[08:55] <franquito> lotuspsyshje tell me here
[08:55] <blackflow> !ops @158.99.1.172
[08:56] <usuario> mmm
[08:56] <Pollagordanegram> hello my dear friend
[08:56] <blackflow> !ops | @158.99.1.172 requires your attention
[08:57] <niko> Pollagordanegram, usuario and franquito i quieted you for an hour.
[08:57] <blackflow> niko: oh thanks, didn't know you had the remote :)
[09:41] <lordbojos> hello
[09:42] <lordbojos> can someone help me how to join a channel?
[09:49] <alfou> de
[10:29] <un4ooR6f> Hello everybody.  How can I install tclkit?
[10:36] <marcoagpinto> guys?!
[10:37] <marcoagpinto> are there any plans for a EXT5 filesystem with 128 bit TOC?
[10:37] <marcoagpinto> I believe EXT4 is the latest?
[10:37] <marcoagpinto> it could be used in x64 OSes
[10:39] <marcoagpinto> I am thinking about higher years support by using more bits and also more bits to match all OSes flags and have spare ones for future use
[10:49] <ducasse> marcoagpinto: ext4 is expected to be followed by btrfs
[10:50] <marcoagpinto> btrfs?
[10:50] <marcoagpinto> what is that?
[10:50] <marcoagpinto> :)
[10:51] <ducasse> !btrfs
[10:51] <marcoagpinto> ohhhhhhhhhhh :(((((
[10:51] <ducasse> still under development
[10:51] <blackflow> <ten years later>
[10:56] <marcoagpinto> ducasse: "2^64 byte == 16 EiB maximum file size"
[10:57] <marcoagpinto> 512 bit?
[10:57] <marcoagpinto> :)
[10:57] <marcoagpinto> 64*8=512
[10:57] <marcoagpinto> it sounds too good
[10:57] <marcoagpinto> is it real?
[10:58] <blackflow> marcoagpinto: a 128 bit system used in full would require energy enough to boil all the oceans.   and ZFS is one already. https://hbfs.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/to-boil-the-oceans/
[10:58] <blackflow> so yeah, totally pointless at this point in time. ask again in a thousand years.
[10:59] <Cheez> given the orders of magnitude i've seen storage increase by in the past 20 years, i think a thousand years is over optimistic
[10:59] <blackflow> s/system/filesystem/
[10:59] <marcoagpinto> blackflow: I can only ask in a thousand years if more bits are added the the filesystem's year
[10:59] <Cheez> my first PC with a hard drive had 75mb of storage. My current storage is at about 200TB
[10:59] <marcoagpinto> 2300 or so is the limit for ext4?
[10:59] <blackflow> Cheez: since  128-bit fs can literally have more than two files for each atom in the known universe.... I find that moer than sufficient for the next millenium
[11:00] <blackflow> bee sides, unlike ipv4, there are no rollout/deployment problems with FS. when the time comes, new stuff will be an apt install away.
[11:00] <blackflow> marcoagpinto: I think you did not understand the issue then.
[11:00] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaa
[11:00] <blackflow> aaaaaand #ubuntu-discuss or -offtopic, people, this is not ubuntu support related ;)
[11:01] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhh
[11:01] <marcoagpinto> sorry
[11:08] <XenophonF> hey all - where are all the Gnome shell shortcuts in Ubuntu 18.04 documented?
[11:09] <XenophonF> I want to find the key combo that cycles through all windows, instead of just window groups
[11:09] <blackflow> like Alt-Tab?
[11:09] <XenophonF> Alt-Tab cycles between apps, not between windows
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> XenophonF: systemsettings/devices/keyboard
[11:10] <blackflow> anyway the shortcuts in the KEyboard section of the Settings app
[11:10] <XenophonF> so e.g., if I have two terminal windows open, I have to alt-tab to Terminal, hold it, down arrow, and then right or left arrow to the desired window
[11:10] <blackflow> XenophonF: oh so you want to cycle between windows of the same app?
[11:10] <XenophonF> yeah
[11:10] <blackflow> Alt-<key under ESC>
[11:10] <blackflow> tilde or what's there, depending on your kbd layout
[11:11] <XenophonF> got it!
[11:11] <XenophonF> Thank you both! I found the mappings in the Settings app too.
[11:12] <XenophonF> ah and Alt-Esc cycles through all open windows
[11:12] <XenophonF> perfect
[11:12] <XenophonF> I knew I was Doing It Wrong LOL
[11:13] <blackflow> (tm)
[11:13] <skyroveRR> Hello guys, I've got ubuntu server 16.04.6, and I'm trying to run a web server thttpd inside /etc/rc.local, /etc/rc.local containing this: /bin/thttpd -C /etc/thttpd.conf . However this program fails at boot with the error "chdir: No such file or directory", but after logging in, when I the same command manually, it runs well. Any ideas? Here's my /etc/rc.local: http://paste.debian.net/1069620/ and here's my
[11:13] <skyroveRR> /lib/systemd/system/rc.local.service: http://paste.debian.net/1069621/ ... any ideas?
[11:13] <XenophonF> Now I just need to get used to right-clicking scroll bars to page down...
[11:14] <blackflow> skyroveRR: maybe you have a PATH issue? Also look into writing a proper systemd unit instead of rc.local
[11:14] <skyroveRR> blackflow: I'm not really into systemd, I like doing things the rc.X way :)
[11:14] <blackflow> good luck with that then
[11:15] <blackflow> btw you pasted the systemd unit for rclocal and not your rclocal script
[11:15] <skyroveRR> blackflow: i did both.
[11:15] <skyroveRR> 1069620 and 1069621.
[11:16] <blackflow> since there's no chdir in the script, I'm assuming it's a fail of the thttpd binary? probably PATH issues?
[11:16] <skyroveRR> Yeah, let add PATH inside /etc/rc.local..
[11:17] <blackflow> well.... no, you're doing it wrong
[11:17] <skyroveRR> Then?
[11:17] <blackflow> you really need a proper service unit. also is the process running any privsep? if not, you'll have ot run it as a proper user as well
[11:17] <skyroveRR> Also, same error: chdir: No such file or directory. Also, "chdir" is a C function.
[11:19] <blackflow> skyroveRR: at which point one should ask which file or directory is apparently missing?
[11:19] <blackflow> is there a logfile with more info?
[11:21] <skyroveRR> Well, thttpd is a rather tiny server.
[11:21] <skyroveRR> It isn't going to give you a shitload of logs.
[11:21] <skyroveRR> The thing worked fine on ubuntu 12.04 when I had placed it inside /etc/rc.local.
[11:22] <skyroveRR> Now afte upgrading the server, I'm finding it to be a pain to run my scripts.
[11:22] <skyroveRR> Also, you mentioned about creating a service file. Let me try that.
[11:22] <blackflow> skyroveRR: things evolve. you should now run services as systemd services. writing the unit files is very easy, look up some guides
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> systemd is default from 15.04
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> not wise to keep it running on 16.04
[11:22] <blackflow> skyroveRR: but for starters you should find out which file or directory it is failing on. perhaps strace the thing from that rclocal. use -o for strace to divert it into a file
[11:22] <blackflow> but anyway since that's not a  regular Ubuntu package, it's not supported here and this is becoming offtopic.
[11:23] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: 16.04 is still fully supported LTS
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: i know, but to keep the rc local way on xenial is bit challenging right?
[11:24] <blackflow> ah you meant not wise to "keep using rclocal", yeah I agree
[11:24] <blackflow> rclocal is deprecated
[11:25] <hugo_> hello
[11:25] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> welcome hugo_ what can we do for you?
[11:25] <hugo_> nothing
[11:26] <guest-jheqxi> hello
[11:32] <blackflow> skyroveRR: steal from here: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/452206/
[11:35] <skyroveRR> Hmm, chdir fails to change to the directory even when the directory exists, in the strace report: chdir("/home/*user*/dir")           = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) ...
[11:37] <skyroveRR> blackflow: ok, I'll check that out if the -D option doesn't work.
[11:37] <skyroveRR> Ok, it didn't work.
[12:02] <mattia_> hi
[12:02] <mattia_> does any of you have a thinkpad x240 lenovo?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> ask your question mattia_
[12:03] <mattia_> does any of you have a thinkpad x240 lenovo?
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> mattia_: your real question, meaning whats your issue exactly?
[12:04] <mattia_>  installed ubuntu 18.04 but the notebook is slow. While with 16.04 it is very good. I also noticed that it warms up a lot more
[12:05] <mattia_> sorry for my low english
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> mattia_: what are your system specs on your lenovo?
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> mattia_: would you like support in another language better?
[12:05] <mattia_> italian?
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> !it | mattia_
[12:27] <muhaha> What should I install for Intel GPU HW acceleration ? I have
[12:27] <muhaha> Intel® HD Graphics for Intel® Celeron® Processor N3000 Series
[12:28] <muhaha> i965-va-driver ?
[12:36] <marcoagpinto> guys?! Is Ubuntu 18.10 Server paid? It says in the site "5 years of free updates blah blah"
[12:36] <marcoagpinto> just wondering
[12:36] <skyroveRR> marcoagpinto: no, it isn't paid.
[12:36] <skyroveRR> It's free.
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: no, only ESM is paid
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> !esm | marcoagpinto
[12:36] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhhhh
[12:36] <marcoagpinto> good to know
[12:37] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: its in some cases, where a business dont want to upgrade yet and keep using the end of life version
[12:38] <marcoagpinto> I am downloading 18.04.2 LTS desktop but I noticed that at least on of my VMs upgraded automatically from .1 to .2
[12:38] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:38] <marcoagpinto> one of*
[12:40] <marcoagpinto> I have a dream... the birth of a new world where everyone and everything uses the most recent technology
[12:40] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:40] <marcoagpinto> the progress of mankind
[12:40] <skyroveRR> ping blackflow
[12:41] <marcoagpinto> that is why I am involved on community projects... it is my goal on this world
[12:42] <blackflow> skyroveRR: ?
[12:42] <XenophonF> on Ubuntu 18.04.1, I'm getting the error "Unable to lock - Lock was blocked by an application"
[12:42] <XenophonF> is there a way to (a) find out which app and (b) configure Gnome to ignore it and lock anyway?
[12:43] <skyroveRR> blackflow: I've observed this: when I try to tell thttpd.service to run on boot, it fails with that chdir: no such file or directory, but when I start it manually with systemctl start thttpd.service, it starts fine. I just don't get it.
[12:44] <blackflow> skyroveRR: run as same user?
[12:44] <skyroveRR> As root?
[12:44] <skyroveRR> I'm running it as a normal user, with sudo.
[12:44] <blackflow> oh wait, you said manually via systemctl, so in both cases the same unit is used?
[12:45] <skyroveRR> Yeah.
[12:45] <blackflow> are you additionally mounting any paths like /home ?
[12:45] <am4n> how to learn linux commands
[12:45] <am4n> please help
[12:46] <am4n> I am unable to remember the commands with which I can write good bash scripts
[12:46] <blackflow> am4n: https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+commands+cheat+sheet
[12:46] <blackflow> other than this very vague (but somewhat useful) request, you'll have to be more specific about what you want to learn
[12:47] <skyroveRR> blackflow: nope. I'm not.
[12:47] <am4n> penetration testing
[12:47] <XenophonF> am4n: the Linux Foundation offers all kinds of training, https://www.linux.com/tutorials
[12:47] <blackflow> am4n: then ask google about "pentesting with linux"
[12:47] <am4n> I am specificly saying for the commands used in penetration testing such as grep has many flags so its not possible for me to remember all the flags
[12:48] <XenophonF> am4n: likewise, SANS offers all kinds of pentesting training, https://pen-testing.sans.org/
[12:48] <blackflow> skyroveRR: can you pastebin   `systemctl cat thttpd.service`       or whatever the unit file is?
[12:48] <blackflow> am4n: consult the manpages of specific commands, like `man grep`
[12:49] <am4n> yeah !! you are correct but it should be in mind ...
[12:49] <VitoG> hello all
[12:49] <am4n> thank you backflow for helping me...
[12:49] <skyroveRR> blackflow: http://paste.debian.net/1069634/
[12:49] <blackflow> am4n: so you're asking how to improve your memory?
[12:49] <am4n> yes...
[12:49] <blackflow> ask google "how to improve learning and memory"
[12:49] <blackflow> I mean... srsly :)
[12:50] <am4n> today i learn grep but day after tomorrow i forget some flags as i am not using it daily
[12:50] <skyroveRR> blackflow: contents of my thttpd.sh: http://paste.debian.net/1069635/
[12:50] <blackflow> skyroveRR: that service looks totally wrong. did you see my previous link about that systemd unit?
[12:51] <am4n> say example you are doing exercise in bandit
[12:51] <am4n> and if there you don't remember the commands then how you will complete the level
[12:51] <skyroveRR> blackflow: I modified it.
[12:52] <blackflow> skyroveRR: for starters, systemd should not exec some shellscript, but the thttpd binary directly. Type= of which then dependson whether it's forking, or in foreground (Type=simple). If you want multiple servers running like that, you'll have multiple units, or use a "template unit"
[12:52] <blackflow> skyroveRR: which is all systemd specific and not Ubuntu specific so you'll have to look up elsewhere, and maybe even ask in #systemd
[12:53] <skyroveRR> Why can't this be done the simple way?
[12:53] <am4n> QUIT
[12:53] <blackflow> skyroveRR: it can but you're doing it in a complicated way
[12:53] <blackflow> skyroveRR: now about your problem, you've straced it to failing on _what_ file exactly?
[12:54] <skyroveRR> It fails on chdir /home/$USER/directory, even when it exists.
[12:54] <blackflow> skyroveRR: that service unit starts the process as root, so that'd be /home/root/....   unless that path is hardcoded somewhere else?
[12:55] <skyroveRR> no, the path is not hardcoded anywhere.
[12:55] <skyroveRR> I checked the strace.
[12:55] <blackflow> skyroveRR: so it takes $USER from the env?
[12:55] <skyroveRR> It's not declared anywhere.
[12:55] <blackflow> so then /home/root/... ?
[12:55] <blackflow> skyroveRR: maybe pastebin as example also /etc/thttpd.conf.server1  ?
[12:56] <skyroveRR> One sec.
[12:57] <skyroveRR> blackflow: http://paste.debian.net/1069637/
[12:58] <blackflow> skyroveRR: so is thttpd doing privsep? Does it start as root master process and then forks a worker as that "user=" ?
[12:58] <skyroveRR> Yeah
[12:58] <blackflow> skyroveRR: is it writing the pidfile as root or as user?
[12:58] <skyroveRR> As root.
[12:59] <blackflow> skyroveRR: well from given information I have zero clue what could be wrong, and you'll have to ask thttpd developers.
[12:59] <skyroveRR> ...
[12:59] <blackflow> skyroveRR: meanwhile, start simple. look at this patch: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/452206/
[12:59] <blackflow> skyroveRR: well please note that #ubuntu can only support software packaged regularly in Ubuntu, and this is not
[13:00] <skyroveRR> blackflow: man, this task is too simple. You gotta understand.
[13:00] <blackflow> skyroveRR: so the above patch, look at how the systemd unit is defined, and do the same. don't start a shellscript, start the process directly
[13:00] <blackflow> skyroveRR: no, you gotta understand that we can only support Ubuntu packaged software here. You'll have to ask elsewhere for thttpd specific issues. because so far you've not presented any clues as to what the problem might be. We have zero clue how thttpd works internally.
[13:01] <skyroveRR> Well, it's a web server, what else do you wanna know.
[13:01] <blackflow> by some common logic, it should start as root, source the config file, fork a worker as that user and then look up those dirs in the config. if it fails on that, and the dirs exist, there's no visible reason.
[13:01] <blackflow> skyroveRR: it's not packaged in Ubuntu
[13:02] <skyroveRR> But it is being *run* on ubuntu. The way ubuntu wants it to behave.
[13:02] <VitoG> same ole
[13:02] <blackflow> skyroveRR: so again, look at that patch, write a proper systemd unit (no shell scripts!), and then test it that way. once you get it working you can switch to a template for a multi-instance confiugration.
[13:03] <VitoG> hi jw
[13:03] <blackflow> skyroveRR: my last setence is the maximum I'm willing to provide you support with here. please try with a proper systemd service which can be then properly tested. shellscripts can't
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> can we help you VitoG ?
[13:04] <skyroveRR> blackflow: alright. Thanks so far.
[13:04] <VitoG> no, i bet i know more about ubuntu than anyone here
[13:04] <VitoG> i am linux expert
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> please only ubuntu questions here VitoG
[13:09] <uken71> mantapp
[13:11] <uken71> tes ?
[13:15] <uken71> haloo
[13:15] <uken71> hallo
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> uken71: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:19] <uken71> yes, i have problem with my driver
[13:21] <blackflow> !details | uken71
[13:48] <gamester> Does ubuntu patch gnome? I'd like to try the newest gnome (gnome 3.31.90) but without losing out on ubuntu's changes. I'm just not sure what it is that ubuntu changes to get the look/functionality it has
[13:50] <blackflow> gamester: currently it's a frankenstein made of several versions because they wanna keep the desktop icons thing, plus is split-brained between apt and snap. so more like a ...a .... psycho frankenstein who just ran out of meds.
[13:50] <blackflow> but in theory, other than the theme, it's supposed to be unmodified upstream thingy.
[13:53] <gamester> Hmm okay I'll go with vanilla gnome then
[13:53] <gamester> it's wayland party time
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> gamester: is there a feature you look after?
[13:54] <gamester> lotuspsychje: nah, I'm just working on an application that'll end up exclusively supporting wayland
[13:55] <gamester> so I'm excited for the wayland perf improvements
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> gamester: just an idea, help test the latest? like 19.04?
[13:55] <gamester> yeah, good idea
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> version 3.30.2-2ubuntu2 on the dingo :p
[13:56] <blackflow> dancing doggo
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:06] <Seveas> Dopey Doge
[14:30] <iron_houzi> I installed ubuntu server and added Docker during installation .. however, a group named docker was not created, which is typically used for allowing users access to docker without granting root .. does anybody know why there's no docker group? Should I create this manually, or is there another way to do this in Ubuntu?
[14:41] <geirha> iron_houzi: perhaps you mistakenly installed the docker package instead of the docker.io package?
[14:41] <geirha> !info docker
[14:41] <iron_houzi> geirha: The installer listed an option to install Docker .. I just enabled it ..
[14:42] <geirha> ah, haven't seen that option in the installer
[14:43] <geirha> is docker running though?   sudo docker ps   prints an empty table?
[14:43] <teward> iron_houzi: was that the Live installer for the Server?
[14:43] <iron_houzi> teward: Yes
[14:43] <teward> then it installed it via Snap I believe
[14:44] <teward> do `snap list`
[14:44] <teward> does Docker show up there?
[14:44] <iron_houzi> geirha: Docker is running .. but I need root to access .. normally it should come with a docker group, whom will be allowed to run docker without root
[14:44] <iron_houzi> teward: Yes!
[14:45] <teward> iron_houzi: I'll ahve to check, but I seem to remember the Docker Snap had this as a "known issue" that wasn't closed yet...
[14:45] <teward> *goes hunting*
[14:46] <teward> iron_houzi: I would suggest that you use the Docker debian installs instead of the snap
[14:46] <iron_houzi> teward: Thanks!
[14:47] <teward> so `snap remove docker` and then `sudo apt-get install docker.io`
[14:47] <teward> iron_houzi: ^
[14:47] <teward> then exit and reopen your login shell because it'll need to refresh where the binaries actually point to :P
[14:48] <teward> (or if it's an SSH session close and reinitiate)
[14:48] <iron_houzi> teward: Thank you *so* much! Works as expected now!
[14:49] <iron_houzi> Is snap something to stear clear of then??
[14:50] <blackflow> iron_houzi: yes unless you explicitly need it.
[14:52] <teward> iron_houzi: for *docker*, yes.
[14:52] <teward> iron_houzi: as for 'should i steer clear of this', it depends on what you *need* and what's available.
[14:52] <teward> not everything is a .deb
[14:52] <teward> some things (LXD for instance) are only available in snaps.
[14:53] <teward> and then Canonical has a bunch of snaps (kernel livepatching, etc.) that're pretty useful, but unless you *need* the snap version of something, you can usually get by with repos or compiling it yourself
[14:54] <lordcirth__> snap is by far the easiest way to install go-ipfs on Ubuntu, for example
[15:09] <qwebirc58948> Hello, I am trying to mount a single file, not a directory, with AutoFS, but no matter what I do it mounts the file as a directory
[15:10] <ryuo> qwebirc58948: the "file" has a directory inside it. why is that a problem?
[15:11] <qwebirc58948> The file is a text file, so when it mounts the system sees it as a directory and is unable to read it
[15:12] <pavlos> qwebirc58948: mount the dir the file exists in ...
[15:12] <qwebirc58948> I can't as there are other things in the directory that I don't want to mount
[15:13] <pavlos> qwebirc58948: cp the file to /mnt and mount /mnt
[15:14] <qwebirc58948> Ok, that will work. Thank you.
[15:17] <omer> ğ
[15:18] <omer> hello
[15:23] <paulywog> Quick question: is it possible to suppress the "activation of network connection failed" messages on 18.04? It's really annoying as I work on networking tools and I have a desk network for them which won't always connect even though the cable is attached to a switch
[15:24] <paulywog> I tried dconf-editor as referenced in an old SO post, but it didn't have any effect
[15:25] <willksm> Have a read of this - don't know if the same thing applies to you. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1767322
[15:26] <marc__> hi
[15:26] <paulywog> willksm: Sort of. The thing is, I know my network connection ISN'T going to be working. I just don't need to see a notification about that every 30 seconds.
[15:26] <marc__> may here is someone who could help me
[15:27] <marc__> since this morning i got an install error
[15:27] <marc__> ubuntu installer failed to load libc6-udeb
[15:27] <marc__> what could i do
[15:28] <lordcirth__> marc__, what Ubuntu version? At what step in the install does it say that?
[15:28] <marc__> 16.04
[15:28] <OerHeks> marc__, netboot?
[15:28] <marc__> yes netboot
[15:29] <marc__> the install say it on disk detect
[15:30] <marc__> on wednesday i could install without problems
[15:30] <willksm> paulywog, can't determine what it is which will be outputting it and therefore unsure on how to surpress it. I'll keep googling around.
[15:30] <marc__> should i use another mirror
[15:32] <Verilium> Is anyone aware, of has ever run into the fact that running an 'aptitude update', seems to remove a hold on a package that was marked with apt-mark?
[15:33] <ioria> paulywog, have you tried to stop network-manager ?
[15:35] <paulywog> ioria: Would I then have no network management at all? (DHCP, etc?)
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> Verilium: could you pastebin whats hapening please, show us wich package its about etc?
[15:35] <ioria> paulywog, you said 'I know my network connection ISN'T going to be working'
[15:36] <ioria> paulywog, you need connection or not ?
[15:37] <ioria> paulywog,  on 18.04 ,notifications can be disabled also from SystemSettings -> Notifications
[15:37] <paulywog> ioria: I'd prefer that my normal internet connection just work like a normal internet connection
[15:37] <paulywog> Let me try that
[15:38] <ioria> paulywog, another alternative might be disable nm-applet  from /etc/xdg/autostart
[15:38] <paulywog> Alright I turned them off in Notifications, let's see how that does
[15:38] <paulywog> Bet that'll fix it honestly
[15:39] <Verilium> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RmVqCWswgw/
[15:39] <Verilium> lotuspsychje: It seems pretty weird to me, as if something in that first 'aptitude update' clears the hold.  Subsequent runs of update don't clear the hold anymore...
[15:40] <Verilium> lotuspsychje: It doesn't seem to be package-specific neither, as I was trying to debug why my docker-ce was updated, so I just tried a test run on some other package that needed an update (openssh-server).
[15:40] <OerHeks> Verilium, so that apt-mark action makes that you are not on 18.04.2 ...
[15:41] <OerHeks> why do you keep an old version static?
[15:41] <paulywog> Looks like that fixed it, thanks a bunch ioria
[15:41] <ioria> paulywog, ok
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | Verilium
[15:43] <Dice> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gPS7t4GNrb/ Why does this command not work?
[15:44] <amcsi> hi
[15:44] <Verilium> OerHeks:  Yes, there is that.  I'll update in a bit and test it out on 18.04.2 too.  Still seems like weird behaviour to me though.  The hold on openssh-server was just a quick test on "something" that needed updating.  The actual trigger of me looking into this was why an aptitude update updated my docker-ce even though I had put a hold on it.
[15:45] <ioria> Dice, -x
[15:45] <amcsi> my ethernet connection is set as the default network connection, and my VPN connection is secondary. This is good. But how do I specify certain IPs visible from both to be ignored by my ethernet so that it would fall back to using the VPN for it?
[15:45] <Verilium> ...and no, updating docker, is not an option in our environment, at least not in this uncontrolled manner.  That's actually the only package I bothed to put a hold on.
[15:47] <Dice> ioria: thanks :)
[15:47] <ioria> Dice,  ok
[15:57] <marc__> when i use another mirror i got the same error
[15:59] <iron_houzi> If I apt installed docker.io, what's the correct way to get docker-compose??
[16:00] <tgm4883> iron_houzi: 'apt install docker-compose'
[16:00] <iron_houzi> ty!
[16:01] <tgm4883> iron_houzi: it's worth noting you can search the repo with 'apt search docker-compose'
[16:02] <iron_houzi> tgm4883: I did
[16:02] <tomreyn> marc__: libc6-udeb is most likely not from a mirror but is contained on the installer. so you'd have a broken image on the nfs / deployment server or a bad network connection between deployment server and deployed system (but i would think that checksumming takes place there).
[16:03] <marc__> tomreyn: i use http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ to install
[16:04] <marc__> tomreyn: i try to install it on xenserver
[16:04] <tomreyn> marc__: you misunderstood what i wrote
[16:04] <tomreyn> (r i failed to express myself)
[16:05] <tomreyn> does re-reading it help?
[16:05] <marc__> tomreyn: not really
[16:05] <tomreyn> you said you do a netinstall. but before the network is up and installation form an archive mirror server takes places, something needs to be booted, right?
[16:06] <tomreyn> this something is probably the issue.
[16:06] <tomreyn> now how do you boot and run the installer?
[16:06] <marc__> tomreyn: i use xenserver with xencenter
[16:07] <tomreyn> okay, and some iso image then?
[16:07] <marc__> tomreyn: there is a template and i put the url into
[16:07] <marc__> tomreyn: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[16:07] <tomreyn> is this a citrix template then?
[16:07] <marc__> tomreyn: yes is a citrix template
[16:08] <marc__> tomreyn: on wednesday evening it worked
[16:08] <tomreyn> i forgot the details about how xenserver templates work, but surely they are downloaded. make sure it downloaded properly, is not corrupt, checksums match.
[16:09] <marc__> tomreyn: how i could check the checksum in installer ??
[16:11] <tomreyn> marc__: how to check xenserver templates is out of scope for this channel. but you you can ran a less complete test from the installer: bring up the grub menu, choose to "test cd-rom for defects" (or similar, i forgot the exact wording)
[16:11] <marc__> tomreyn: there is no iso
[16:12] <marc__> tomreyn: yenserver load complete installer and all it need form url
[16:12] <marc__> tomreyn: so i think there change somthin on ubuntu server not on my site
[16:12] <marc__> tomreyn: i test it on 3 xenserver pools in 3 datacenters
[16:13] <marc__> tomreyn: so i think it is not the internet connection
[16:13] <tomreyn> ah right templates are really just disk images
[16:14] <marc__> tomreyn: and i think it is not the template because i didn't update anythin on the pools
[16:14] <tomreyn> so your template is maybe bad. or you have a bad disk.
[16:14] <marc__> tomreyn: i don't think so
[16:15] <tomreyn> bad disk seems unlikely if it's on three servers with different template storage. so i'd consider a bad template
[16:15] <marc__> tomreyn: that are 14 servers in 3 datacenter where it not work
[16:15] <deepend> anyone know how to get /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-activate installed? I don't seem to have it on 18.04
[16:15] <tomreyn> marc__: and they didn't refresh the template recently?
[16:16] <marc__> tomreyn: no they didn't refresh it
[16:16] <marc__> tomreyn: there was no update or change on the server pools
[16:16] <tomreyn> marc__: so try a different archive mirror, see if it changes anything.
[16:17] <tomreyn> but udeb really points to debian installer
[16:17] <tomreyn> so i don't think this are just readily installed system images you're using there.
[16:17] <marc__> tomreyn: hm ok i test it on nex server with next mirror
[16:18] <tomreyn> mirror states are discussed here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[16:18] <marc__> tomreyn: no i setup from scratch
[16:18] <Verilium> OerHeks:  FYI, this still happens and can be reproduced in 18.04.2 - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VF6kQRbSmf/
[16:18] <tomreyn> your ISP also hosts one.
[16:18] <marc__> tomreyn: no
[16:19] <tomreyn> marc__: "no" to what?
[16:19] <marc__> tomreyn: no my isp didn't have a mirro
[16:19] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.netcologne.de-archive
[16:20] <marc__> tomreyn: this is my home isp
[16:20] <marc__> tomreyn: not my datacenter isp
[16:20] <tomreyn> yes, your home isp is the only one i could possibly know about
[16:20] <marc__> tomreyn: but i can use this one
[16:21] <UForgotten> Who can help with a virt-inst preseed of xenial that is segfaulting 18 error 4 on libc-2.23.so ?  Bionic install with identical preseed works fine. I built xenials earlier this week so something changed.
[16:26] <marc__> tomreyn: didnot work
[16:26] <marc__> tomreyn: same error
[16:27] <tomreyn> marc__: so that suggests that the installer is the problem. you previously wrote "xenserver loads the complete installer and all it needs from a URL" (typos fixed, i make a lot, too). find out which URL it is, how it verifies the download.
[16:30] <marc__> tomreyn: i agree that the installer is the problem but i think it changed in the last tow days
[16:30] <tomreyn> marc__: we will be able to verify this once you'll know how (where from) it's downloaded and verified.
[16:31] <marc__> tomreyn: in xenial folder the netboot changed 2019-02-21 13:49
[16:32] <tomreyn> deepend: this doesn't seem to exist in any supported ubuntu version
[16:32] <marc__> tomreyn: so i think this is the problem
[16:32] <Verilium> Running 'aptitude update' seems to create this /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates file, but also resets/removes all holds that were in /var/lib/dpkg/status.  Seems to only happen on the first run of an 'aptitude update' though, when /var/lib/aptitude/ gets populated.
[16:32] <marc__> tomreyn: i try to download an iso and try to install it
[16:32] <tomreyn> marc__: none of this appears to be an ubuntu issue so far.
[16:33] <deepend> hmm I am confused, I have definitely used it in the past for testing. I just don't remember how
[16:33] <UForgotten> marc__ maybe you are havingt the same problem I am
[16:34] <UForgotten> sounds like someone broke something in xenial
[16:34] <marc__> UForgotten: yes its broken
[16:34] <marc__> tomreyn: i'm no the only one
[16:34] <UForgotten> did anyone open a ticket, or how do we get it fixed?
[16:34] <marc__> tomreyn: i think it is an ubuntu error
[16:35] <marc__> UForgotten: i try to download the old mini iso
[16:35] <tomreyn> i'm sure an agreement can be reached on "someone broke something in xenial". there are pen bug reports against every release.
[16:35] <UForgotten> bionic install is working fine.
[16:35] <tomreyn> what we lack here to confirm anything are hard facts.
[16:36] <UForgotten> the fact I wa able to determien is that the install seg faults at libc-2.23.so
[16:36] <marc__> UForgotten: that i not checked but i give it a chance
[16:36] <tomreyn> install of which point release, downloladed form where, verified to be correct how?
[16:38] <UForgotten> xenial, via a preseed install, which is net-installing, so whatever is on the mirror
[16:38] <rootbash> hi gys
[16:38] <rootbash> what wrong
[16:39] <tomreyn> UForgotten: which mirror, which url?
[16:39] <UForgotten> I'm building VM's in kvm, using virt-install to install xenial with a preseed file, and it gets halfway through then seg faults.  I built VMs earlier this week with an identical setup on the same machine so something is broken on the mirror.  archive.ubuntu.org
[16:39] <marc__> tomreyn: the template use http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[16:39] <UForgotten> running the sam process pointed to bionic works.
[16:40] <marc__> tomreyn: there is the mini.iso the template download
[16:40] <marc__> tomreyn: and it changed on 2019-02-21 14:49
[16:40] <marc__> tomreyn: my last working install was on 2019-02-20 18:04
[16:41] <marc__> tomreyn: this used http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu451.27/images/netboot/
[16:41] <marc__> tomreyn: i think
[16:43] <tomreyn> so http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ has files with modification dates of yesterday. whereas http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu451.27/images/netboot/ has changes from january
[16:43] <UForgotten> yeah whatever was in that release on the 21st broke something in the install process presumably.
[16:43] <UForgotten> my installs were working before then as well.
[16:45] <tomreyn> okay, i think this is enough to open a bug report then.
[16:46] <deepend> ahh, I figured out my problem. systemd-activate appears to be called systemd-socket-activate now
[16:46] <tomreyn> i'm not sure what it needs to filed against, you could ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:46] <tomreyn> UForgotten, marc__ ^
[16:47] <marc__> tomreyn: ok but i must register
[16:48] <marc__> tomreyn: because +r
[16:49] <tomreyn> |easy|: that's correct. UForgotten is already chekcing with folks there, though, maybe they will report back to you.
[16:53] <tomreyn> !register | |easy|
[16:53] <|easy|> tomreyn: i wait for mail
[16:54] <qwebirc22446> Hey. I'm using Ubuntu 18.10. I want to bind alt+§ in a game, but it's already used by the system (the "window switcher" comes up, but it doesn't actually change the window, it only shows a preview of the current focused one). I couldn't find it in the keybinding section. Any idea on what it could be, and how to unbind it?
[16:54] <tomreyn> |easy|: okay, ping me later to get the partial channel log.
[16:56] <OerHeks> Verilium, i am not sure what your issue is; you use apt-mark and it respects that.
[16:57] <OerHeks> don't update if you don't want to change your docker-ce instance?
[16:57] <rootbash> salut
[16:59] <rootbash> how knows who is online
[17:02] <|easy|> tomreyn: ok past it on a query
[17:02] <OerHeks> rootbash, look at the users list?
[17:03] <|easy|> tomreyn: thx
[17:03] <|easy|> tomreyn: i try now to install it with http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/ubuntu-releases/xenial/ubuntu-16.04.5-server-amd64.iso
[17:04] <|easy|> tomreyn: as work around
[17:04] <tomreyn> |easy|: you could also use the older mini.iso
[17:04] <tomreyn> which is still on the servers
[17:05] <qwebirc22446> Is § called something special? Because I can't for the life of me find Alt+§ in the list of keybinds
[17:05] <|easy|> tomreyn: yes of course but the template mak all thing automatic and it is to hard to change it to use the old version
[17:05] <|easy|> tomreyn: simpler is to download the server iso
[17:05] <tomreyn> whatever works for you!
[17:06] <tomreyn> i'm testing a manual install using ther current mini.iso
[17:06] <|easy|> tomreyn: ok on real hardware or on a hypervisor
[17:07] <tomreyn> |easy|: virtualbox
[17:07] <|easy|> tomreyn: a ok
[17:07] <OerHeks> qwerirc install dconf,  /org/gnome/desktop/wm/preferences/  ## but i do not see that shortkey either
[17:07] <qwebirc22446> Apparently § is section, but I can't find alt + section in the list either...
[17:08] <Verilium> OerHeks:  The problem is an initial 'aptitude update' removes/resets/clears up any hold flags that were in place on any package.  So yes, both apt/apt-get/aptitude does respect the hold flag.  The problem is that a first run of 'aptitude update' seems to clear up package flags.  I filled up a bug report here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/1817350
[17:08] <|easy|> tomreyn: i works with the server iso
[17:08] <OerHeks> Verilium, now i get your point, it clears the mark, ugly
[17:09] <|easy|> UForgotten: you should be able to use the server iso as work around
[17:09] <Verilium> OerHeks:  I mean, I'm pretty sure if I have a hold flag in place, and then run 'aptitude update' (for the 1st time only), and then show hold flags and there aren't anymore in place, it's... not really expected behaviour, heh.
[17:09] <|easy|> UForgotten: it should also work on kvm
[17:09] <Verilium> Yeah, ugly indeed.  A surprise, to say the least.
[17:15] <tomreyn> |easy| + UForgotten: what you're run into could be related to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2019-February/004712.html
[17:18] <UForgotten> that hasn't been released yet though?  sigh.
[17:18] <|easy|> tomaw: ok that is an RC and not a Release
[17:18] <|easy|> tomreyn: sorry for typo
[17:19] <|easy|> tomreyn: but this post has the same time and date like the iso
[17:19] <|easy|> tomreyn: they make an RC as Release without testing
[17:19] <tomreyn> correct, it's about an RC. i'm just saying, apparently a xubuntu 16.04.6 release is in progress
[17:20] <tomreyn> my
[17:21] <tomreyn> my manual testing, using the de.archive.ubuntu.com archive mirror server, shows no errors so far
[17:22] <tomreyn> the installation succeded without errors, installed system boots up fine.
[17:22] <|easy|> tomreyn: i used it too but i get errors
[17:23] <|easy|> tomreyn: maybe virtualbox make somthing not so like xenserver or kvm
[17:23] <tomreyn> |easy|: can you test the latest mini.iso from http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso - MD5SUM is ed2bbe59e5dac40b92e0ddeb6b206ef8
[17:23] <tomreyn> maybe what failed for you is not the one i tested, maybe current now points to a newer one?
[17:23] <|easy|> tomreyn: this i tested
[17:23] <|easy|> tomreyn: manaul download
[17:24] <|easy|> tomreyn: manual upload
[17:24] <tomreyn> same md5sum?
[17:24] <|easy|> tomreyn: same result
[17:24] <|easy|> tomreyn: how to create md5 checksum
[17:24] <tomreyn> there's a command for this "md5sum"
[17:24] <tomreyn> you point it against a file.
[17:25] <tomreyn> i.e. the first argument you pass to it is the file path + name
[17:25] <|easy|> tomreyn: ed2bbe59e5dac40b92e0ddeb6b206ef8  mini.iso
[17:25] <tomreyn> matches
[17:26] <tomreyn> so it's a matter of different use
[17:26] <|easy|> tomreyn: i think they change something in iso whitch belongs to vm code shared between xen and kvm
[17:26] <sine`> Need a server stack for a fibre connection I have access to. I have been using windows 2012r2 with debian VM and I want to get rid of it for obvious reason.
[17:27] <|easy|> tomreyn: virtualbox make thinks a lite bit different
[17:27] <|easy|> ups things
[17:27] <sine`> I use python scripts with web dev and will want lamp and other services. I also want to have a remove GUI desktop to have access to
[17:27] <sine`> is my best option to use Ubuntu Server LTD
[17:27] <sine`> LTD*
[17:27] <sine`> S
[17:28] <tomreyn> |easy|: AFAIK virtualbox uses a kvm fork, so it should not really be very different.
[17:28] <|easy|> tomreyn: not very but i some small things
[17:29] <|easy|> tomreyn: and thins could make the difference
[17:30] <tomreyn> theoretically, yes.
[18:00] <Kilde> Can someone help me with a couple of errors I get when booting up 18.04?
[18:00] <tomreyn> Kilde: not until you share those errors ;-)
[18:00] <teward> Kilde: it helps to share the errors you're seeing and ask the channel in general for help :P
[18:00] <teward> rather than asking if someone can help you with unspecified issues
[18:00] <teward> :P
[18:02] <Kilde> Yes. I am not sure how to copy the details of the error. It says that 18.04 has experienced an internal error.
[18:05] <compdoc> write it down?
[18:08] <tomreyn> Kilde: those details are stored in /var/crash/
[18:13] <freakchick> what details? I know i sound like a moron, quite the opposite I assure you but this is my first venture from windows environment i am clueless😏
[18:14] <freakchick> i got a message that popped  up with a link to learn some shit, but it disappeared before I got the command to type in
[18:16] <Kilde> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sKxxSdJ3Vc/
[18:16] <freakchick> thank you :) I am amy btw
[18:16] <freakchick> LMAO and he bombards me with ???
[18:17] <tomreyn> freakchick: hi amy, welcome to #ubuntu. this is really just for support. if you need support, please state thje problem. if you intend to chat, you can do so in#uibuntu-offtopic, but you will need to !register first
[18:17] <tomreyn> !register | freakchick
[18:18] <ikanobori> freakchick: When you join an IRC channel you don't get to see backlog; that message was in regards to a question from before you joined the channel.
[18:19] <freakchick> thanks for clarification, I have never chatted in IRC , like ever lol. im looking into registering though now thanks again
[18:19] <compdoc> light-locker seems to cause others problems too
[18:20] <KombuchaKip> I've disabled display compositing in the Window Manager Tweaks and even killed xfwm4, but I am still seeing partial transparency or artifacts on the top level window. Any ideas? I haven't changed my VGA driver or settings in ages.
[18:20] <freakchick> ok , so here come my questions,  to register it tells me to type commands into my server tab, is this my server tab? where i am typing this question?
[18:21] <tomreyn> Kilde: light-locker crashed there, that's the screen lock
[18:21] <ikanobori> freakchick: Which IRC client are you using?
[18:21] <lordcirth__> freakchick, this is the #ubuntu channel tab. You should see a tab called 'freenode'
[18:21] <freakchick> i see it
[18:22] <freakchick> it drops menu with options : reconnect  disconnect properties and  remove
[18:22] <freakchick> polari is what i am using to chat
[18:23] <freakchick> this is the first time ive  used an os other than windows, i partitioned my hard drive and installed ubuntu, so i am a baby
[18:25] <freakchick> ok , polari doesnt support nickname registration automatically i need to check with irc network for registration of  my nickname command
[18:26] <compdoc> welcome to IRC
[18:26] <ikanobori> The reason it is telling you to use the 'server' window is to make sure if you mistype a command it doesn't end up in a chat channel with people.
[18:26] <ikanobori> You can start with `/msg nickserv hello`, it should open a new tab for a private message with `nickserv`.
[18:26] <freakchick> i guess my question then is where is the server window
[18:27] <ikanobori> Afterwards you can use that tab to do the rest.
[18:27] <freakchick> 0h lol ty
[18:28] <ikanobori> You could also look into using a different IRC client which might make things easier or harder depending on where you're coming from.
[18:30] <ZackTech> Hi does anyone have knowledge of how to create an admin user?
[18:31] <ZackTech> on Mongo DB
[18:31] <ZackTech> ooops
[18:33] <tomreyn> Kilde: if you have "settings -> privacy -> problem reporting" enabled then those creash reports are automatically submitted (to errors.ubuntu.com). note that what you posted should not normally be posted online fully since it could (not that likely, but possible) contain sensitive information (such as passwords, or secret keys, or just URLs you visited, or the file name of your background image). this is also why access to the repository of
[18:33] <tomreyn> these submitted error reports is access restricted.
[18:34] <tomreyn> Kilde: if you have the setting set to 'manual' you'd choose whether or not to submit it every time something like this happens (but you can choose not to be notified about repeat crashes of the same type).
[18:36] <tomreyn> ZackTech: i'm pretty sure this will be documented on their manual, have you had a look, yet?
[18:39] <freakchick> dayummmm
[18:40] <freakchick> my iq sank to that of a  damn rock ffs
[18:40] <ZackTech> tomreyn, I am following https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-secure-mongodb-on-ubuntu-16-04#part-three-configuring-remote-access-(optional)
[18:40] <freakchick> thx for the help u guys
[18:40] <ZackTech> tomreyn, Error: couldn't add user: not authorized on admin to execute command
[18:41] <ZackTech> tomreyn, did not get all these problems when I installed mongo db on windows
[18:41] <ZackTech> tomreyn, would you be able to help me out of "world of pain"
[18:41] <ZackTech> ???
[18:48] <tomreyn> ZackTech: sorry, been busy.
[18:57] <tomvolek> HI:  I have  a dat amigration question not sure what room to ask it.  Need to find out whats best way to migrate 30 Peta byte of data from S3 back to inhouse storage ?  :)
[19:00] <blackflow> tomvolek: lol
[19:01] <tomvolek> blackflow:  :)  ya, after three years company has decided to leave AWS , it too expensive .. back to our own DC
[19:01] <drboom> hi
[19:01] <blackflow> tomvolek: for half a milion dollars a month, you don't ask on irc, you hire data storage professionals.
[19:03] <tomvolek> or look for another job becasue the management doesnt listen ..
[19:23] <dunpeal> Hi. I'm trying to tether through bluetooth and it's not working :|
[19:23] <dunpeal> I'm on 18.04
[19:27] <Nitsuga> dunpeal, does the journal say something interesting?
[19:27] <Nitsuga> (journalctl -e)
[19:27] <Nitsuga> (or `journalctl -f` for follow and try again)
[19:28] <dunpeal> kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: last event is not cmd complete (0x0f)
[19:28] <Niebieski> Hello, I want to boot ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso of an external hdd. I installed grub on a FAT32 partition and copied the iso to an ext4 partition.
[19:29] <Niebieski> The boot process drops to initramfs with messages saying that the filesystem is corrupt and needs to be cleaned.
[19:30] <Niebieski> I did fsck on both partitions but the problem still persists.
[19:31] <leftyfb> Niebieski: why 14.04?
[19:32] <leftyfb> Niebieski: also, do you mean installing ubuntu from the iso or booting the iso directly?
[19:32] <Nitsuga> dunpeal, are you sure that your phone tethering works, and that your bluetooth (usually) works?
[19:33] <Niebieski> leftyfb: It is the iso I have currently I can aquire a newer version. and I want to boot from the iso directly, I followed the grub2/isoboot guide.
[19:33] <dunpeal> Nitsuga: yes, I can send files to the device.
[19:33] <dunpeal> Connection Failed: Connection 'Network Access Point on Samsung Galaxy S7' is not available on the device <bluetooth address> at this time.
[19:33] <dunpeal> Nitsuga: ^ what I get when I try to connect to Network Access Point on the same device.
[19:34] <leftyfb> Niebieski: why do you need to boot the iso directly?
[19:35] <Nitsuga> dunpeal, And you're sure the bluetooth tethering option in the phone is ticked? It tends to untick by itself on mine sometimes.
[19:35] <Niebieski> leftyfb: Do you have a better option?
[19:35] <dunpeal> Nitsuga: yes :|
[19:36] <Nitsuga> dunpeal, anyway it wouldn't give that error if that was the problem.
[19:36] <leftyfb> Niebieski: depends on the end goal. You haven't said why you need to boot the iso directly.
[19:36] <Nitsuga> Maybe there's too much interference with the Wi-Fi. Try disconnecting or switching to a 5 GHz network.
[19:36] <Nitsuga> dunpeal ^
[19:37] <dunpeal> I've been trying for hours. This will never work.
[19:37] <Niebieski> leftyfb: The end goal is to install Ubuntu on one partition of the external HDD. and have it bootable.
[19:37] <leftyfb> Niebieski: so boot the iso via usb/cd and install it?
[19:37] <Nitsuga> dunpeal, oh, ok. It's usually fiddly for me, but not hours fiddly.
[19:39] <Niebieski> leftyfb: I can't boot the iso directly?
[19:39] <ioria> Niebieski, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[19:41] <ioria> Niebieski, but with the mini.iso the life is easier
[19:47] <Niebieski> ioria: I wrote these commands on GRUB directly, I was prompt by the Ubuntu menu I selected Try without installing.
[19:48] <Niebieski> The booting process was halted by 'unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem'
[19:49] <Niebieski> I couldn't write the last line 'loopback --delete loop' because I was redirected to the menu.
[19:54] <blackswan> hi. i have a ppa on launchpad.net, but the signing key seems to have disappeared from keyserver.ubuntu.com. can anybody point me in the direction of fixing this?
[19:54] <ioria> Niebieski, sy, afk,  try oopback loop (hdx,x)$isofile
[19:54] <ioria> *loopback loop (hd0,1)$isofile
[19:57] <Niebieski> ioria: $isofile for me is (hd0,gpt2)
[19:57] <Niebieski> (hd0,gp2)/filename.iso
[19:57] <ioria> an external drive hd0 ?
[19:57] <Niebieski> GRUB is on (hd0,gpt1)
[19:57] <Niebieski> Yes.
[19:59] <adsbatista> hi
[19:59] <OerHeks> blackswan, what ppa exactly?
[19:59] <blackswan> https://launchpad.net/~hermit
[20:00] <blackswan> https://launchpad.net/~hermit/+archive/ubuntu/bionic-ppa
[20:02] <ioria> Niebieski, usb3 ?
[20:02] <Niebieski> ioria: Yes.
[20:02] <OerHeks> 'Error reading https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&options=mr&exact=on&search=0x166B6D7B59863696BB483868EADD5972943FF4C4: Not Found'
[20:02] <OerHeks> blackswan, confirmed
[20:02] <ioria> Niebieski, change to usb2 ?
[20:02] <Niebieski> ioria: I've tried but will do again.
[20:03] <blackswan> it did work at one time, because it appears in the 'apt-key list' output on my laptop
[20:06] <OerHeks> blackswan, this might belong to #ubuntu-packaging, not sure
[20:08] <EriC^^> Niebieski: did you follow the instructions for the 64bit one?
[20:08] <EriC^^> Niebieski: you followed the example menu entries in the grub/isoboot page?
[20:09] <Niebieski> ioria: Same error.
[20:09] <Niebieski> EriC^^: Yes.
[20:09] <ioria> Niebieski, this one ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[20:09] <EriC^^> Niebieski: what exactly are you typing?
[20:11] <EriC^^> Niebieski: i think the $isofile is wrong or something in there if it can't find the live system, please share in a pastebin the exact lines you're typing
[20:11] <EriC^^> that or the iso is corrupted is likely too
[20:12] <ioria> Niebieski, and i  think you don't have a grub installed on your main drive, right ?
[20:14] <Niebieski> ioria: EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/GQVFVTZJ
[20:15] <Niebieski> md5sum of the ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso cab6dd5ee6d649ed1b24e807c877c0ae
[20:15] <ceibal> ubuntu
[20:15] <EriC^^> Niebieski: $isofile should be "set isofile=/ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso"
[20:15] <ceibal> ceiba
[20:15] <ceibal> ceibal
[20:15] <ioria> Niebieski, some errors ....
[20:15] <ceibal> +
[20:15] <EriC^^> Niebieski: then loopback loop (hd0,gpt2)/$isofile
[20:15] <ceibal> hola
[20:16] <ceibal> comoestas
[20:16] <Niebieski> EriC^^: the isofile is on an other partition.
[20:16] <ceibal> virgin
[20:16] <Niebieski> GRUB is on a fat32 partition (hd0,gpt1) and the iso on (hd0,gpt2)
[20:16] <pi0> were are the error logs located? when the system booted up, a dialog box with the msg "System program problem detected" do you want to report the problem now?
[20:16] <EriC^^> Niebieski: i know but that doesn't matter
[20:16] <pi0> but it does not list the problem
[20:17] <EriC^^> Niebieski: trust me on this one ;)
[20:18] <EriC^^> Niebieski: the reason it's failing is cause it's passing iso-scan/filename=$isofile which it wants a filename only, but it's getting (hd0,gpt2)/filename
[20:18] <EriC^^> Niebieski: just put the (hd0,gpt2) in the loopback line so it knows where the iso is to mount it
[20:18] <pi0> what is information is provided when i "report problem"
[20:18] <pi0> does anyone now were the error logs are located?
[20:18] <ioria> Niebieski, told you to set the drive in the loopback
[20:19] <OerHeks> pi0, you can find them in cat /var/crash/*
[20:21] <pi0> nice! thank you
[20:21] <EriC^^> Niebieski: also, if that's verbatim, you're missing the "." in initrd.lz
[20:24] <Niebieski> EriC^^: ioria: drops to initramfs with 'unable to find a media containing a live filesystem'.
[20:24] <EriC^^> Niebieski: did you remove the (hd0,gpt2) from the set isofile line?
[20:24] <Niebieski> Yes.
[20:24] <ioria> Niebieski, do you have grub (i mean a linux install) on the internal drive ?
[20:25] <Niebieski> No, I have Windows installed on the internal hdd.
[20:26] <EriC^^> Niebieski: ah the problem is also in the linux line
[20:26] <EriC^^> make it linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz.efi
[20:27] <Niebieski> Yes that was an error when writing the bin.
[20:27] <EriC^^> goodluck, i've had some bugs booting grub iso's 14.04 has worked for me but i think 16.04 kept bugging out, i think you'll be good
[20:27] <EriC^^> Niebieski: hmm, there's a typo in there somewhere, or the iso actually is missing the live system, lets check the hash real quick
[20:27] <EriC^^> !hashes
[20:28] <ioria> Niebieski,  or go with the 14.04 mini.iso  (35mb)
[20:30] <ioria> Niebieski, just change with  vmlinuz  'linux' and   initrd.lz  with 'initrd.gz'
[20:31] <EriC^^> Niebieski: are you able to list the files?
[20:31] <EriC^^> Niebieski: get into grub> from a fresh start and type "ls (hd0,gpt2)/"
[20:31] <EriC^^> tell me what you see
[20:31] <Niebieski> ioria: EriC^^: it worked!
[20:32] <ioria> Niebieski, oh joy !
[20:32] <Niebieski> Can't thank you enough guys. :D
[20:32] <Niebieski> Thanks.
[20:32] <ioria> ok
[20:45] <pi0> is there a recommended log viewer for faster troubleshooting
[20:46] <OerHeks> type 'logs' in search and the tool pops up
[20:47] <pi0> i was referring to syntax highlighting
[20:47] <pi0> or only view the actual important parts
[20:50] <kriebz> lots of grep
[20:51] <asciiwarrior7> hey guys, could I post a link? It reflects a bunch of peoples opinion regarding ubuntu?
[20:51] <pi0> ah i see
[20:52] <OerHeks> asciiwarrior7, no, take that to #ubuntu-discuss please
[20:52] <tomreyn> blackswan: did oyu get this fixed, yet? your packages seem to be signed by a different key now?
[20:52] <asciiwarrior7> okay
[20:52] <OerHeks> this is technical support
[20:52] <asciiwarrior7> kk
[20:53] <blackswan> it has not been fixed yet to my knowledge.
[20:53] <tomreyn> pi0: journalctl -b -p4
[20:53] <tomreyn> p as in priority, 4 as in warning
[20:53] <pi0> let me try that
[20:54] <blackswan> tomreyn: it is still broken. i don't know if anybody did anything.
[20:54] <star342> hi to all
[20:55] <tomreyn> blackswan: i looked at https://launchpad.net/~hermit/+archive/ubuntu/bionic-ppa/+sourcefiles/asynk/2.3.1-3/asynk_2.3.1-3.dsc - which is signed by RSA key 0x8D691F4BBE48F00B9D92132CD719A7DF587E3011
[20:56] <tomreyn> blackswan: ...which is also the key listed at https://launchpad.net/~hermit
[20:56] <blackswan> i'm talking about the repository key, not the package-signing key
[20:56] <tomreyn> blackswan: ...which, if i follow the links, brings me to https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD719A7DF587E3011
[20:56] <tomreyn> oh
[20:56] <blackswan> the one that's automatically generated that i do not have
[20:56] <tomreyn> blackswan: i'd say ask in #launchpad then
[20:56] <star342> why there is no task manager in mate?and if there is how can i get it .thanks?
[20:57] <blackswan> off i go
[20:57] <tomreyn> star342: sudo apt update && sudo apt install gnome-system-monitor
[20:59] <star342> im sing live cd op
[20:59] <star342> using
[20:59] <star342> dies it work
[20:59] <tomreyn> star342: so?
[20:59] <tomreyn> try it?
[21:00] <star342> ah.ok.thanks very much bro
[21:00] <tomreyn> yw
[21:02] <korzqz> hello quick question, for a live usb created by dd, does it have to stay plugged for the live system to work?
[21:03] <pi0> openjdk-7-jdk i need to install this version of java
[21:03] <pi0> how do i enable older version of ubuntu
[21:04] <pi0> repo's
[21:04] <EriC^^> korzqz: yeah
[21:04] <korzqz> ok, ty
[21:04] <blaster> Hi I'm using disk usage analyzer to try and find out why my HDD is used up, and it shows that there's 134 GB in /var/log but in the dropdown none of the folders are takign up that much space.
[21:05] <blaster> How do I find out where that space is used?
[21:05] <blaster> Can I just wipe the log folder out?
[21:05] <kriebz> ...no
[21:06] <asciiwarrior7> blaster: I use ncdu for this, like this tool a lot
[21:06] <EriC^^> blaster: no, type "du -sh /var/log/* | sort -h"
[21:06] <blaster> I found a way through nautilus, it shows that kern.log.1 is 81.6 gb? That's a bit excessive for a log file no?
[21:06] <EriC^^> blaster: or use ncdu as suggested, it's a very nice cli usage tool
[21:06] <asciiwarrior7> blaster: apt get install ncdu and the command is: "ncdu -x" from root if possible
[21:06] <EriC^^> blaster: there's likely some error message that's being repeated over and over making it large
[21:06] <asciiwarrior7> thats a tool for dummies like me
[21:07] <EriC^^> blaster: try to see what the error is
[21:07] <blaster> The system is pretty new. I'll try tailing it.
[21:07] <EriC^^> blaster: maybe try "less /var/log/kern.log" it's likely there too
[21:07] <EriC^^> tailing it i think will take a lot of time, not sure
[21:08] <blaster> No it was quick, but it looks like 90% of the last 5000 lines are blank.
[21:09] <kriebz> well, it's not 80GB of linefeeds
[21:10] <kriebz> grep -v ^$  /var/log/kern.log | tail
[21:10] <kriebz> whatever the actual file name is
[21:11] <blaster> That one is 80 gb too.
[21:11] <blaster> But the command just hangs.
[21:11] <kriebz> oh crap, yeah, 80GB
[21:11] <kriebz> tail -n 10000 /var/log/kern.log | grep -v ^$  | tail
[21:12] <kriebz> but really, you have a huge problem with either your current kernel, or your hardware
[21:12] <Iarla> I've just upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04. Now when I boot I get a kernel panic (4.4.0-142). If I use an older kernel I can get to the login screen but logging in takes me back to the greeter. Any ideas on how to manage this?
[21:13] <blaster> kriebz, it only returned about 5 lines from today, even when I tried with 50000.
[21:13] <blaster> Seems like the last 49995 lines are blank.
[21:14] <kriebz> Iarla: log in on a text mode virtual terminal, create a new user with an empty/default profile, and try logging in at the greeter as that user
[21:15] <Iarla> kriebz: good suggestion, thank you. I'll try.
[21:15] <kriebz> blaster: if / is full, all kinds of stuff could be angry.  free up some space, reboot, possibly into single user mode, and see if you still have this weirdness
[21:16] <blaster> I just wiped those logs. I don't doubt that old laptop has a hardware issue.
[21:18] <star342> it works well tomreyn.great.thanks again
[21:19] <kriebz> blaster: you can shrink or zero a file with `truncate` so you don't accidentally change ownership or something
[21:19] <blaster> Cool, thanks.
[21:19] <blaster> I ran > /var/log/kern.log as root.
[21:29] <ef6d3m85s3> q
[21:33] <tomreyn> star342: would you like to discuss alternatives to running off a live cd?
[21:33] <tomreyn> (what you said sounded like you're doing this regularly.)
[21:34] <star342> yes .what do you mean?
[21:35] <tomreyn> star342: what's your use case, wouldn't be better to run a full install?
[21:36] <star342> buut i like the live dvd
[21:36] <star342> its easy and practical
[21:37] <tomreyn> star342: does it not feel slow then?
[21:37] <star342> bcz im abiginer
[21:37] <star342> no no at all
[21:37] <star342> its very q
[21:38] <tomreyn> okay, cool, use what you're happy with. just be aware that this means you can't have all the latest security patches applied
[21:38] <star342> and i only use the memory
[21:38] <star342> i mean no hard disk
[21:38] <star342> even i dont have it
[21:39] <tomreyn> whatever works for you ;-)
[21:40] <star342> i mean its very hard to hack me
[21:40] <star342> like windows
[21:46] <nshire> somehow my charge time is going up on my laptop
[21:46] <ikanobori> Free energy!
[21:46] <nshire> (time until full)
[21:46] <ikanobori> Quick sell it
[21:46] <ikanobori> Oh :(
[21:46] <nshire> https://i.imgur.com/wlrmrDH.png
[21:47] <nshire> battery is at 79%
[21:49] <rebab> I'm having problem to install NPM packages. It doesn't add to the path. How can I fix it?
[21:49] <tomreyn> nshire: what this graph seems to be showing is an uncharging battery
[21:49] <nshire> negative
[21:49] <ikanobori> rebab: If you don't install with -g then they'll end up in ./node_modules/.bin/
[21:49] <nshire> that graph is showing a decreasing charge rate
[21:49] <ikanobori> You could add that to your path.
[21:50] <ikanobori> nshire: Seems to me like it's showing a decreasing battery voltage which usually means a battery depleting.
[21:50] <ikanobori> Unless your batteries provide less W when charged?
[21:50] <ikanobori> * power
[21:50] <nshire> the graph is showing a decreasing charge rate... look at at the units and graph type
[21:51] <tomreyn> nshire: hmm right this makes more sense, i guess. charging is really controlled by your firmware, though.
[21:51]  * nshire doesn't experience this on windows
[21:51] <nshire> im rebooting
[21:53] <DaveWho> Question: I have installed the latest Ubuntu Studio on an Asus ROG G750JM and the webcam and bluetooth are not working. I guess I'm going to need to find kernel modules for those particular devices and then.... recompile the kernel? Of course, the most-detailed Asus spec I can find for this laptop don't actually say what the model of webcam is or any specific info about the bluetooth.... Does anyone have any previous experience or ideas
[21:53] <DaveWho> about this model, or the subject of kernel hardware modules in general?
[21:55] <jeremy31> DaveWho: Post URL from terminal for> (lsusb && dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:00] <DaveWho> for> (lsusb && dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:00] <rebab> ikanobori: I've tried with -g still the same
[22:00] <DaveWho> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `>'
[22:01] <DaveWho> @jeremy31 I just get a syntax error... please could you re-post the command to execute?
[22:02] <tomreyn> DaveWho: scratch 'for>'
[22:03] <DaveWho> https://termbin.com/pp11
[22:03] <DaveWho> @jeremy31 it's above (and thank you to yourself and @tomreyn)
[22:04] <jeremy31> DaveWho: > cd /lib/firmware/brcm && sudo wget https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/raw/master/brcm/BCM20702A1-13d3-3404.hcd
[22:05] <jeremy31> DaveWho: then shutdown and boot, see if the bluetooth works then
[22:06] <DaveWho> Resolving github.com (github.com)... 192.30.253.112, 192.30.253.113
[22:06] <DaveWho> Connecting to github.com (github.com)|192.30.253.112|:443... connected.
[22:06] <DaveWho> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
[22:06] <DaveWho> Location: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/master/brcm/BCM20702A1-13d3-3404.hcd [following]
[22:06] <DaveWho> --2019-02-23 02:05:25--  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/master/brcm/BCM20702A1-13d3-3404.hcd
[22:06] <DaveWho> Resolving raw.githubusercontent.com (raw.githubusercontent.com)... 151.101.16.133
[22:06] <DaveWho> Connecting to raw.githubusercontent.com (raw.githubusercontent.com)|151.101.16.133|:443... connected.
[22:06] <tomreyn> !paste | DaveWho - you got muted for now, due to posting too much text here
[22:07] <tomreyn> DaveWho: and you're back
[22:07] <DaveWho> Sorry about the paste above... anyway, that's te result: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2G6wWgspBJ/
[22:08] <jeremy31> DaveWho: shutdown and see if it works
[22:08] <DaveWho> ok, brb (and thank you again for the help)
[22:13] <vimar> hi
[22:14] <DaveWho> sadly, still no webcam... I'm just testing the bluetooth now
[22:15] <DaveWho> ah.... the bluetooth is feeling better though :-)
[22:15] <SimonNL> BT was the only thing that was worked on
[22:16] <SimonNL> DaveWho  ^
[22:16] <DaveWho> ah ok
[22:16] <jeremy31> DaveWho: I don't know anything about webcams
[22:17] <DaveWho> well that's really cool for the bluetooth.... @jeremy31 thank you for that :-)
[22:20] <SimonNL> DaveWho: sudo update-usbids          then past the output of  lsusb   to dpaste.com
[22:23] <DaveWho> @SimonNL:     https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9VBkHFrXVq/
[22:24] <SimonNL> DaveWho: not what I expected.    lsusb|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:26] <DaveWho> https://termbin.com/qi1k
[22:28] <SimonNL> DaveWho: nothing has changed
[22:28] <DaveWho> @SimonNL... ah.... erm.... :-)
[22:29] <DaveWho> "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" ... ;-)
[22:29] <SimonNL> DaveWho: have a look in your applications and see if cheese is installed if it's not install it from software manager
[22:29] <SimonNL> pardon e moi
[22:30] <DaveWho> Cheese is installed.... No device found
[22:30] <DaveWho> Translation "The more things change, the more they stay the same way" ;-)
[22:31] <jeremy31> DaveWho: Check BIOS to see if the webcam is disabled in there
[22:31] <DaveWho> No, it's enabled
[22:31] <DaveWho> (I checked that today)
[22:32] <SimonNL> DaveWho: was hoping the usb id upgrade would reveal more in lsusb output
[22:32] <DaveWho> Strangely, it used to work with...... 16.04 I think? or a previous version of Ubuntu, anyway.... and then it stopped.... (I didn't care at that time.... one less thing to spy on me)
[22:33] <DaveWho> did you see any webcam module at all in there? I don't seem to recognize one @SimunNL
[22:36] <DaveWho> The most-detailed spec I found for this laptom was at https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-G750JM/specifications/
[22:36] <SimonNL> no didn't
[22:38] <shibboleth> don't buy a ROG laptop
[22:38] <DaveWho> And it just says "HD Web Camera"......... maybe it's not loading any webcam module at all? Maybe if I could just specify a generic one? I suspect it's probably a Logitech model? (because the Bluetooth was, right? And they probably sourced the webcam from the same supplier) What do you think?
[22:38] <shibboleth> if you *need* a lot of power on-the-go they're not specifically worse than other room heaters
[22:39] <shibboleth> otherwise, get a portable and a stationary for gaming
[22:39] <DaveWho> After that, my next laptop was a Dell @shibboleth, and all my future ones will be, too....... Dell supports Linux
[22:39] <shibboleth> xps 13 dev
[22:39] <shibboleth> or a thinkpad, perhaps
[22:40] <DaveWho> Thinkpad provides Linux support? I loved so much that my Dell i3567 let me choose Ubuntu right out of the box.... I'll stay loyal to any company that supports Linux
[22:41] <shibboleth> afaik you can't go wrong with their t-series thinkpads
[22:42] <shibboleth> their trackpad coating isn't all that
[22:42] <DaveWho> @SimonNL would you be able to talk me through installing a "default" or commonplace Logitech webcam module by any chance? Maybe that would work?
[22:42] <shibboleth> two months and it'll be well polished
[22:43] <DaveWho> @shiboleth I'll love Dell forever for providing Ubuntu as an inital OS choice
[22:43] <SimonNL> DaveWho: should be in kernel DaveWho afaik
[22:44] <SimonNL> DaveWho: whats the brand/type of your machine
[22:45] <SimonNL> Asus ROG G750JM  sorry got it
[22:45] <DaveWho> @SimonNL... ah ok.... WTF.... anyway the bluetooth was a great step forward..... I can always buy an external webcam, but having no bluetooth was a pain...........
[22:45] <DaveWho> @SimonNL oh yeah?????
[22:46] <vojin-milosevic> hello?
[22:46] <SimonNL> DaveWho: please type     mokutil --sb-state      and post that one line output in here
[22:47] <DaveWho> @vokin-milosevic just ask your question..... people don't say hello much in IRC rooms ;-)
[22:47] <DaveWho> @SimonNL OK, brb
[22:48] <DaveWho> SecureBoot disabled
[22:48] <DaveWho> Platform is in Setup Mode
[22:48] <DaveWho> (I have changed the SecureBoot option to enabled in the BIOS, but it doesn't seem to change anything.... )
[22:49] <SimonNL> disabled is fine DaveWho
[22:49] <DaveWho> Again, on my Dell, the setup and BIOS seems much more feature-rich than this Asus (which was supposed to be an upmarket gaming machine..... so what did I pay the money for?)
[22:50] <DaveWho> @SimonNL OK
[22:51] <SimonNL> DaveWho: lsusb -t|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:52] <jeremy31> DaveWho: You deleted the Secure Boot keys?
[22:52] <DaveWho> https://termbin.com/q6l7
[22:53] <DaveWho> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HcnyyZX3WT/
[22:54] <DaveWho> @Jeremy31.... er yes............... that was a boo boo?
[22:55] <jeremy31> DaveWho: It may prevent being able to use dkms modules
[22:55] <vojin-milosevic> anyone here using lutris and league?
[22:55] <DaveWho> @jeremy31 so can I just regenerate new ones in the BIOS.....?
[22:57] <jeremy31> DaveWho: you may have an option to load default keys or factory keys in BIOS, hopefully that will get rid of the Platform in Setup Mode from mokutil --sb-state
[22:57] <DaveWho> @vojin-milosevic the best practice in an IRC room is to post your full question.... say what exactly is your problem? That is more likely to get you an answer mote ;-)
[22:57] <DaveWho> @jeremy31 thanks for the tip, I will try that.... I do believe there is an option for that in my BIOS
[22:57] <vojin-milosevic> lutris, game-porting app, updated today. cant login in league of legends.
[22:58] <vojin-milosevic> asking for help
[22:58] <boo> what
[22:58] <boo> Hello1!
[22:58] <OerHeks> vojin-milosevic, those games are already in softwarecenter / snap store and steam
[22:59] <vojin-milosevic> they arent
[22:59] <vojin-milosevic> im using league of legends via lutris
[22:59] <vojin-milosevic> but
[22:59] <OerHeks> you need to seek support with the developer/maintainer https://snapcraft.io/leagueoflegends
[22:59] <vojin-milosevic> lutris got a new version today
[22:59] <OerHeks> prop stuff
[23:00] <vojin-milosevic> no no no
[23:00] <DaveWho> @jeremy31 so if I regenerate keys in the BIOS, then Linux might be able to "find" my webcam?
[23:00] <OerHeks> with snap you could roll back :-P
[23:00] <vojin-milosevic> im not using it via snapcraft
[23:00] <vojin-milosevic> i dont use snapcraft at all
[23:00] <vojin-milosevic> i use lutris
[23:00] <OerHeks> vojin-milosevic, i know, just we have no support for lutris, nor prop games
[23:01] <jeremy31> DaveWho: It might not help the webcam but if you need out of tree modules for wifi or video, it will allow dkms to work
[23:01] <OerHeks> we support our repos
[23:01] <DaveWho> @jeremy31 OK, thanks for that advice
[23:02] <DaveWho> @SimonNL, did that pastebin provide any enlightenment, by any chance? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HcnyyZX3WT/
[23:02] <OerHeks> vojin-milosevic, did you ask in #lutris ? here on #freenode
[23:02] <OerHeks> i think they send you to the developer too
[23:02] <SimonNL> DaveWho: no sorry doesn't show anything related to the webcam
[23:03] <DaveWho> @SimonNL OK, thank you very much for the help :-)
[23:03] <vojin-milosevic> OerHeks, I did
[23:03] <SimonNL> DaveWho: it's midnight here I going to bed
[23:03] <jeremy31> DaveWho: I would try rebooting without the logitech or Western digital devices connected, you might be using too much power on USB bus
[23:03] <SimonNL> goodluck DaveWho
[23:04] <DaveWho> @SimonNL sleep well, mate ;-)
[23:04] <DaveWho> @jeremy31, OK I am going to try that now.....brb
[23:04] <SimonNL> hi me it's you
[23:04] <DaveWho> @eremy31 and thank you for all the advice...... brb
[23:06] <some_> I have a process that is running when computer boots up that I want info about...in top window it is labled pid #760 the user is Debian-+ and the command is: tor...my guess is that this is a result of installing and setting up apt-transport-tor by moding sources.list file. Is this a known bug or issue? I am currently having to kill process in order to start tor in terminal
[23:07] <leftyfb> some_: please pastebin the output of lsb_release -sa
[23:07] <OerHeks> i think your tor apt is busy checking updates
[23:08] <some_> would using something besides the default socket work?
[23:09] <leftyfb> some_: please pastebin the output of lsb_release -sa
[23:11] <leftyfb> some_: please do not pm
[23:15] <tomreyn> some_: the process you're looking at is the tor daemon. apt-transport-https does not depends on it as a package, but does need a tor client to use the tor network.
[23:21] <some> ok
[23:21] <some>  i have killed process already. Does this matter?
[23:21] <tomreyn> when you (successfully) kill a process, it no longer runs, and can no longe rprovide functionality it provides while it runs.
[23:22] <tomreyn> does this answer your question?
[23:23] <some> no...I understand this.
[23:24] <some> does the command i was asked to run require me to reboot?
[23:25] <some> cmd was:lsb_release -sa
[23:25] <tomreyn> surely not.
[23:25] <some> I was asked by leftyfb to run this
[23:25] <some> and paste output
[23:25] <velix> I want to run libfuse3 on current LTS. Since i'm coming from Debian, sorry for this question: How can I figure out, if there's a PPA, which already provides libfuse3 for LTS?
[23:26] <some> what i am saying is that the process in question is not currently running. Will the output of the given cmd still be helpful?
[23:26] <tomreyn> some: you can also copy the contents of /etc/os-release and paste it to https://paste.ubuntu,com - this effectivelxy achieves (almost) the same.
[23:27] <qwebirc62363> Hey, All
[23:27] <some> ok
[23:27] <tomreyn> some: this command is just to get some context on your question, really.
[23:28] <some> here goes then...
[23:29] <tomreyn> velix, i'm not aware of a way to search PPAs for certain releases (codenames) only. maybe if you make use of the launchpad CLI this will be achievable. actually an interesting project. but then we don'T wupport and don't generally recommend PPAs here.
[23:29] <some> No LSB modules are available.
[23:29] <some> Ubuntu
[23:29] <some> Ubuntu 18.10
[23:29] <some> 18.10
[23:29] <some> cosmic
[23:29] <some> sorry
[23:30] <qwebirc62363> My question to the community; I have stumbled on the NetData software which seem great. It there a similar software that helps to monitor network traffic; i.e.: list of processes using network, list of open sockets open closed by processes or softwares, etc., beside using netstat and commands alike
[23:30] <tomreyn> some: now notify those who asked you for it by typing there nicknames here.
[23:30] <velix> tomreyn: hmm okay. So backporting it for myself would be better?
[23:30] <tomreyn> !ppa | velix, see the url at the end of this hint for the generic PPA search
[23:31] <tomreyn> s/end/middle/ ;-)
[23:31] <some> leftyfb
[23:31] <kristhian> hi cant seem to ssh after installing nginx - i think its because of ufw
[23:31] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fuse3/3.4.1-1 it will be next ubuntu 19.04
[23:32] <tomreyn> velix: well if you find a PPA you trust, it's probably fine.
[23:32] <kristhian> is there anyway to access my ssh?
[23:32] <kristhian> using ubuntu 18.10
[23:32] <tomreyn> velix: backporting yourself is surely another option.
[23:32] <some> s/end/middle/leftyfb
[23:32] <some> ?
[23:32] <velix> tomreyn & OerHeks thx
[23:33] <enyc> kristhian: you could test turning off uwf...
[23:33] <kristhian> anyway how can i access to it?
[23:33] <kristhian> to turn off ufw?
[23:33] <enyc> kristhian: i think you may then need ot   do some kind of "sudo ufw allow 22" or whatever to then allow all ssh, if thats what you want.
[23:34] <enyc> kristhian: you may not be able to access it remotely, ?
[23:34] <qwebirc27598> join
[23:34] <OerHeks> kristhian, walk to the server, or when it is a rental, use the admin mode
[23:34] <velix> tomreyn & OerHeks: Ah... backporting the good old debian style seems to work: dget -x on the dsc, mk-build-deps, dpkg-buildpackage :-)
[23:34] <some> leftyfb_:No LSB modules are available.
[23:34] <some> Ubuntu
[23:34] <some> Ubuntu 18.10
[23:34] <some> 18.10
[23:34] <some> cosmic
[23:34] <tomreyn> !paste | some
[23:35] <some> okay
[23:35] <some> mistake
[23:35] <tomreyn> velix: looks like you just became a maintainer (of your own backports)
[23:35] <velix> d'oh
[23:36] <enyc> velix: hrrm i never tried mk-build-deps
[23:36] <enyc> velix: i always "apt-get build-dep <sourcepackage>"  and if that idn't work, sort out the missing evpendency manually first
[23:36] <velix> enyc: It grabs too much often... but it works: mk-build-deps --install --remove
[23:37] <velix> enyc: I hate adding things to my source.list ;)
[23:37] <OerHeks> you will need to remove current fuse2 stuff
[23:37] <velix> OerHeks: I hope, the DEB will take care of this.
[23:37] <qwebirc62363> My question to the community; I have stumbled on the NetData software which seem great. It there a similar software that helps to monitor network traffic; i.e.: list of processes using network, list of open sockets open closed by processes or softwares, etc., beside using netstat and commands alike
[23:38] <velix> Oh great: it failed. dh_install: libfuse3-dev missing files: usr/lib/*/*.a
[23:38] <OerHeks> start with build essentials
[23:39] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[23:39] <velix> OerHeks: installed of course, autotools etc. all in there.
[23:39] <velix> OerHeks: I've been using Debian for more than 11 years now... You can't live without backports in Debian
[23:40] <kristhian> ok got it, thanks OerHeks and enyc
[23:40] <velix> The buildings process works, seems like the final packacking failed.
[23:41] <tomreyn> qwebirc62363: network connections are usually logged on a firewall or (transparent?) proxy, traffic statistics are usually gathered on switches (mrtg is a classic for graphing those).
[23:55] <velix> Lol! apt remove libfuse2 removed grub :D
[23:55] <velix> <3 packages <3
[23:56] <velix> Yep, grub2 pulls fuse2