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[05:14] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer, EthanTestsLife: in a way we have... any flavour + ubuntustudio-installer will at some time yeild the same result.
[06:13] <tarzeau> Eickmeyer: ok , i can stay here anyways i guess?
[14:06] <studio-user578> Hi, i found 2 things curious in the latest (18.10) ubuntu studio. first is most fn (hot keys) are not working on my asus. this is a recurring theme in linux land i guess but i its easily solved by adding the xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin to the panel and add the correspondent commands to its (pactl). is there a reason why this plugin was not shipped in the first place? second, when the screen blanks out after an user idle peri
[14:06] <studio-user578> sound still plays though
[14:21] <sakrecoer> studio-user578: probably when the screen blanks out, it's just the power saver of the screen, not hibernation you can find those settings in the power manager inside system settings
[14:22] <sakrecoer> for the FN keys, i don't know. It has always worked for me so far...
[14:22] <sakrecoer> eventually the "window" button or whatever it is called can be a pita.
[14:23] <sakrecoer> and the mac "edit/apple" button is also tricky AFAIR, but last time i had to deal with that one was 2010...
[14:28] <studio-user578> sakrecoer: yeah, my bet is the powersaver too.  Thats not the real problem, it can powersave :) as long as the music keep on playing, but the screen doesn't turn on again.... thats kind of the problem.
[14:30] <studio-user578> and for the fn keys, this laptop is from 2013... :P so that might explain it.. still though, the official ubuntu didn't had this problem... but then again, long live ubuntu studio ;)
[14:31] <studio-user578> and the windows key doesn't work with these function keys or hot keys either...
[14:33] <studio-user578> just saying ;P since its so easy to fix. and xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin is a better choice, i don't know... thought like give it a try here... these small things make a world of difference for new users...
[14:35] <studio-user578> and well xfce4 in general, for a media distro like this, is the best choice in my opinion.
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[15:05] <studio-user578> something else: does anyone know why firefox youtube stops playing when I enable jackaudio via the qjackctl?
[15:12] <studio-user159> sorry was thrown out... when testing for another jack/firefox setup, but that didn't work either
[15:13] <tempest> Hi nice to meet you all and thanks for reading this question. I'm quite new to the Linux operating system and I was just wondering how different this distro is to standard Ubuntu? I think it might be a little bit easier for me to find a book on how to use the standard system than this one and if it's all transferable information that would be fantastic. I've been trying to study the studio wiki but it feels a little bit incomplete in
[15:13] <tempest>  places, thanks again
[15:13] <studio-user159> so, when i start jackaudio via the qjackctl firefox doesn't play any movies. not from youtube, not vimeo. when I clock stop in qjackctl it immediatly starts playing, which is kinda wierd.
[15:15] <studio-user159> @tempest: check youtube. they have fantastic videos about starting with ubuntu for novice and advanced users.
[15:16] <studio-user159> should take you no longer then a day to start playing and a week to go into the next level: the terminal
[15:17] <tempest> Well I'm studying a book for beginners at the moment and it's only covered the terminal so far. It's been fun learning but really I'd much rather be learning how to get my guitar hooked up to this :)
[15:18] <tempest> I'm a little bit unfocused at the moment I think, it's all so new and theres so much to learn
[15:18] <studio-user159> check youtube again and search for demonic sweaters. he has some good info on this stuff
[15:20] <tempest> thanks I'll subscribe to them :)
[15:22] <studio-user159> also : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNvGUqOS1GiApBy78FKzlEw
[16:07] <OvenWerks> studio-user159: If you use qjackctl to start jack, you will probably have to manually change pulse audio's default output to jack_sink.
[16:07] <OvenWerks> using ubuntustudio-controls might be better
[16:08] <studiobot> Fred Garvey was added by: Fred Garvey
[16:08] <OvenWerks> (If you have the new version of ubuntustudio-controls)
[16:10] <studiobot> <Fred Garvey> Hey Everyone,  had a conversation with PreSonus trying to understand why they don't commit to support for UbuntuStudio 19.x and ongoing. I was told to submit a product request and that it is up to Ubuntu Studio to release drives that are Class Compliant that will work with audio interfaces such as Quantum.  Has anyone had conversa
[16:10] <studiobot> tions with PreSonus product development team?
[16:10] <OvenWerks> tempest: for desktop kinds of things, anything that is written about xubuntu also applies to studio. Ubuntustudio is built on top of xubuntu
[16:10] <studio-user159> ovenwerks: thnx, i will first update all packages (installed some kxstudio stuff and whatever in the meantime) i then get back to you, if you dont mind :)
[16:11] <OvenWerks> kxstudio stuff mill also break some things... IE cadence will reconfigure some system services in a way that makes qjackctl and or ubuntustudio-controls
[16:11] <OvenWerks> s/makes/breaks/
[16:12] <studio-user159> ow ok.. will look at that too...
[16:12] <OvenWerks> However, if you will only ever use one audio device cadence will work fine.
[16:13] <studio-user159> however the suite looks pretty awesome, but can non-sequencer and stuff work without kxstudio ... do you happen to know that?
[16:13] <studio-user159> aha
[16:13] <studio-user159> ok thanks
[16:13] <OvenWerks> to use internal audio for output and a USB mic input, ubuntustudio-controls is better
[16:13] <studio-user159> kool
[16:13] <OvenWerks> all of kxstudio besides cadence should be ok.
[16:15] <studio-user159> hydrogen 2:0.9.7-2kxstudio1.1 fails the upgrade process though...
[16:16] <OvenWerks> ubuntustudio already has hydrogen.
[16:17] <OvenWerks> Right now, anything that studio already has that is also in kxstudio could be left at the studio version
[16:18] <studio-user159> aha therefor it fails. ok, i hope i didn't damage the system beyond reasonable repear already.
 @<tempest> one possible solution for you is to install the Gnome desktop alongside the xfce desktop, then you log out and log in using the Gnome destkop.  I find it a little more user friendly than xfjce
[16:19] <OvenWerks> If you have a problem with a aprticular package disable the kxstudio ppa and force reinstall that application.
 That way you get the great Ubuntu Studio features and apps, but with the Gnome destktop
[16:19] <studio-user159> ok i changed the default pulseaudio output device to jack master
[16:19] <OvenWerks> DaveWho I find exactly the opposite
 @OvenWerks, it's all down to individual tastes, I guess 😉
[16:21] <OvenWerks> The xfce desktop is based on the gnome2 style and is a good desktop to get actual work done. I guess gnome is good for single application use though.
[16:21] <OvenWerks> It is possible to use the gnome desktop with more than one application for sure, but not as easy
[16:22]  * OvenWerks runs two monitors with four desktops... often as many as 10 windows per desktop
[16:22] <OvenWerks> more than half of those are terminals
[16:24] <OvenWerks> Oh, speaking of terminals, the gnome terminal just now has a problem with permisions. Even though the desktop has real time permissions a gnome terminal will not (thanks to systemd I am told) so when using gnome for Audio work, use the xterm rather than the gnome one (or install the xfce version)
 @OvenWerts, yeah I do run a lot of apps simultaneously mpself.... often with Win 7 running in VintualBox, too.... The Gnome Extensions repository has so many extensions you can add on to make life easier..... Plus I prefer the Gnome file manager to Thunar..... But, like I said, it's down to individual taste.... Ubuntu Studio was my fi
[16:26] <studiobot> rst experience of Xfce, and I have to say that Xfce is very highly configurable.... It's another great desktop on another great Linux distrib.
 @DaveWho [@<tempest> one possible solution for you is to install the Gnome desktop alongsi …], Or, as we recently designed, install whatever flavor of Ubuntu you like, add the Ubuntu Studio backports PPA, install ubuntustudio-installer, and run it to get up and running with Ubuntu Studio on whatever desktop you like! :)
 Personally, I find Ubuntu Studio with Gnome is MY perfect environment... And when I installed Gnome alongside Xfce, I got a perfect vanilla Gnome... I was no happy.... none of the changes that Canonical made to Gnome in the vanilla Ubuntu distrib
 @Eickmeyer , yes I read about that.... But installing Studo and then adding the Gnome desktop works great.... I'm so happy with it
 A bit thanks to the Studio developers for their great work 😊
 @DaveWho [@Eickmeyer , yes I read about that.... But installing Studo and then adding the …], I've done that too in the past. :)
 For any newbies interested in Gnome on Studio: … sudo apt install tasksel … sudo tasksel install ubuntu-desktop … sudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell
[16:33] <studio-user159> ovenwerks: it works :) thanks!! my hydrogen broke so i disabled the ppa for kxstudio and then my software updater went psycho, but i can fix that ..
[16:35] <OvenWerks> studio-user159: Just a hint, I would not use the gnome software  application but rather install synaptic for that chore.
[16:36] <studio-user159> using apt would do fine to i guess?
[16:36] <OvenWerks> yes apt is a great tool
 Even Gnome Software is working great for me.... but Synaptic is a great tool too for troubleshooting  … Apt works perfectly, yes
[16:36] <OvenWerks> There is a KDE tool that is good too.
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> Muon
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> Muon, imo, is much better than Synaptic. Maintained better.
[16:38] <OvenWerks> ganome software works for most people most of the time... but it does not A) warn you if it is going to remove packages so it can install something new and it does not pass thorugh queries from packages being installed
 Yes, it's true that apt and Synaptic are safer from that viewpoint
 I will try KDE on my other laptop.... I've heard so much good about it as well
[16:41] <OvenWerks> I like KDE.
 I *love* my Linux.... Take it from my cold dead hands 😊
 Try it once and you'll never go back to Windows 😊
[16:44] <OvenWerks> windows is that demo OS some computers come with... the one you replace so you can actually use your computer...
 Yeah 😉 .... I only wish I could manage to nuke Win 10 on my Asus T100TA semi-tablet.... I can't even get a live distrib USB stick to boot on it.... sad....
 I wouldn't buy another Asus computer.... Dell support for Linux is really great, and everything works.... Plus you can install Ubuntu from day 1 instead of Windoze
[16:49] <OvenWerks> I have had good success with ASUS mother boards, but have never gotten a prebuilt with one.
 Question: I have installed Ubuntu Studio on an Asus G750JM and the webcam and bluetooth are not working. I guess I'm going to need to find kernel modules for those particular devices and then.... recompile the kernel? Of course, the most-detailed Asus spec I can find for this laptop don't actually say what the model of webcam is or an
[21:24] <studiobot> y specific info about the bluetooth.... Does anyone have any previous experience or ideas about this model, or the subject of kernel hardware modules in general?
[21:41] <OvenWerks> DaveWho: This would be a great question to ask in #xubuntu or even on #ubuntu (both IRC)
[21:43] <OvenWerks> The kernel for Studio is the same as the generic kernel so far as available kernel modules and compatablility. It has only one extra build switch set that allow pre-empt
[21:44] <OvenWerks> Even on the generic kernel it is possible to provide a commandline parameter in grub to flip the same switch.
 @OvenWerks I'll try that, thanks for the advice 😉
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