[00:00] boot-repair-disk can install grub2 on sda not sdb [00:01] jeremyb: Why should partition 3 be left alone. It is the only one big enough to contain the files I had on the Windows machine? [00:02] hopefully you didn't have bitlocker on it.. [00:03] mrelcee: how do I know if bitlocker was on it? I never installed bitlocker -- is that good enough to know? [00:03] anyway. deans: sudo ntfs-3g -o force,rw /dev/sdb3 /media/windows [00:03] where sdb == your device [00:04] I don't know how to tell. but if you did you wo't get any data.. [00:05] mrelcee: trying--- (with ro instead of rw) be right back [00:06] https://askubuntu.com/questions/266429/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found Not quite clear and it is not likely not a solution. [00:11] Hi! What does 'RC' mean in `efibootmgr -v` output? Like: `Boot0000* Ubuntu HD(2,GPT,xxx-xxx-xxx,0xX,0xX)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)RC` (see the end of string) [00:12] usb flash start with linux as EFI [00:12] Asking because initially there was an RC in `efibootmgr -v` output. But when I deleted boot item and created it manually with `efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 2 -w -L "Ubuntu" -l "\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi"`, created item does not have 'RC' at the end of it [00:13] Xu [00:14] mrelcee: I have to reboot. be right back (thank so much for helping me by the way) [00:14] welcome hope it works [00:16] qwefytuoityty, was you answering to me? I am indeed in a USB live system now, but 'RC' is there not just for USB entry, but for my regular Ubuntu, and some other entries, too. On my other system I dont see this 'RC' in efibootmgr output, so I got curious what it is [00:17] shevchuk: any answers from efibootmgr --help or man efibootmgr [00:18] A common question for those who know how to install grub2 [00:24] mrelcee: When I issue the mount command with any start offset listed for an ntfs partition it works. When I use the offset for partition 3 it doesn't work even with the force option stating the data isn't NTFS. I am going to investigate bitlocker-- because I don't know what else to do. [00:24] My exact mount command was: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o loop,ro,force,offset=986794950656 dell-inspiron.190222.sda.img winmp [00:25] do you have access to the windows box? [00:25] where offset of course changes based on partition [00:26] jeremyb, nope, I've looked it through, but no mentions neither in help, nor in man [00:26] mrelcee: I do ... but it has a new hard drive in it. I can take that out, purchase another 1TB hard drive and place the old image back onto it. [00:26] will probably look source through [00:26] mrelcee: The Windows box was upgraded to Ubuntu on an SSD. [00:27] .... Then I discovered I had a problem when I went to retrieve the data from the disk image. [00:28] I didn't expect retrieving the data from a disk image to be a problem. I never considered that it could be encrypted without my knowledge. [00:30] shevchuk: it'll be what efibootmgr refers to as "binary args". [00:35] sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt next grub-install /dev/sdb ? i not in linux [00:35] sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt next grub-install /dev/sdb ? i not in linux [00:35] not sda [00:35] mrelcee: after some investigation the problem IS BITLOCKER. I am not sure if I have Dell or Microsoft to thank but that is the problem... I will have to get the system running again somehow and decrypt it then make the image again. Thanks again for your help. [00:36] yep dd it back to another drive.. glad you got it sorted [00:37] you can use any drive same size or larger... [00:37] mrelcee: I am just glad it was a fixable issue (hope I am not speaking too soon). I was afraid for a second I had lost the data. [00:38] wonder if you could dd the partition to a IMG file and mount that in something like kvm [00:38] mrelcee: do you have an issue you are here because you need help with? [00:39] nah I'm good. just hang here these days, anticipating i might have problems with an ubuntu laptop but it just worked [00:40] mrelcee: does bitlocker need some data not stored in the image? if so KVM wouldn't work [00:40] mrelcee: for instance does bitlocker require some key stored in bios data area? [00:40] I'm not sure. [00:41] mrelcee: I'll figure it out. I know "the path" from here... but again thanks again. I didn't even know bitlocker was a possible problem for me. [00:43] good luck [00:43] the faq on bitlocker says it's stored on the volume [00:45] bitlocker can store keys either in the tpm or on disk. a recovery key will be needed to restore access the data if moved to a different system. but that's all very much OT here, i guess. there is ##windows. [00:47] HellO! [00:47] Any one here? === boo is now known as Guest16338 [00:48] tomreyn: I feel that at least 20% of my Linux "problems" can be traced directly back to Windows somehow. Luckily I still have the hardware so even if it is in the TPM I should be in good shape. [00:48] plz respond [00:48] ok [00:49] Guest16338: Sopport channel for ubuntu, what is your issue ? [00:49] deans: it would be nice to measure which % of my linuxPPC & m68k problems i could trace back to AmigaOS 3.1 :) [00:50] especially now when we build new OSHW power8 notebook in Milano now :) === vmesons is now known as vmeson [01:10] The following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.23-0ubuntu11) but 2.23-0ubuntu10 is installed [01:10] any one can help me fix this issue? [01:10] apt upgrade fails [01:13] are there packages held back? run a apt full-upgrade [01:14] better not [01:14] oh its just a patch [01:15] nginxtrouble: did you "apt update"? [01:15] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/glibc/glibc_2.23-0ubuntu11/changelog [01:16] yes, it is a minor change [01:17] right, should be fine then. [01:23] https:/paste.ubuntu.com/p/S6mCfqRyHN/ https://ibb.co/n0JWtdW must be made to install GRUB easily what to do? [01:25] sdb5 /boot, sdb6 xu / [01:26] 18.10 64 [01:27] fanny grub [01:28] funny grub [01:40] /topic === msalvatore_ is now known as msalvatore [01:46] Why with installing grub such problems? People do not use btrfs and Linux with Windows in the same HDD sdb and therefore no one has not checked this variant to install grub? [01:47] and not used boot in other partition? [02:31] sorry to bother, is there any channel talking about cars, automobiles? [02:37] !alis | Ouyes [02:37] Ouyes: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [02:39] tomreyn, thanks a lot === james_ is now known as RNeville [03:06] Hello Every One, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS [03:07] trying to install VeraCrypt 1.23 - can't seem to get it installed [03:07] I'm a newbie with Linux - in general and need a little help getting Veracrypt installed === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [03:09] RNeville: you'll have to contact Veracrypt for support. That's not a supported package in Ubuntu [03:12] thx leftyfb [03:14] libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.23-0ubuntu11) but 2.23-0ubuntu10 is installed --> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [03:14] Anyone can help me fix this? [03:14] core71: what version of ubuntu? [03:16] leftyfb: 16.04 [03:16] Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS [03:17] core71: what prompted this package getting installed/upgraded? [03:17] leftyfb: Not sure - today the update/upgrade failed [03:17] core71: ok, did you try: "sudo apt update ; sudo apt install -f" ? [03:18] leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jb92yWJg9v/ [03:18] and that does not fix the problem [03:19] core71: pastebin the following: apt-cache policy libc6 ; apt-cache policy libc6-dev === RT is now known as Guest54989 [03:20] leftyfb: today the apt install -f went through [03:20] let me see if it fixed anything === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [03:22] leftyfb: seems resolved - perhaps someone broke the system with something that was not supposed to be installed - and then fixed the apt upgrade? [03:33] Is there any "ARM" capabilities of ubuntu for the raspberry pis ? [03:37] HickorySmokedBac: Thoughtful: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/02/19/easy-iot-with-ubuntu-core-and-raspberry-pi . [03:38] Bashing-om: I was thinking about getting one for small office PC work, streaming, and printing with a brother printer [03:38] Bashing-om: but can't seem to figure out how to make this work [03:40] HickorySmokedBac: https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ [03:41] leftyfb: Would that give firefox, chrom(ium?), all that jazz to stream youtube and then ntfs-3g, and all that good stuff for a USB external, then be able to use the repos to get the brother printer 'driver" ? [03:42] Just wondering before I buy the thing if it's going to do what I want [03:42] HickorySmokedBac: that is Ubuntu Mate. Prettymuch all the same packages you'd get with regular ubuntu. [03:43] leftyfb: Would it allow for LXDE/Lubuntu ? [03:43] HickorySmokedBac: I'm not sure. I never tried [03:45] leftyfb: Hm, just trying to see if I want to dump the $100 project or not [03:45] shouldn't cost that much. A pi is $35, SD card maybe $20 and a usb charger [03:45] but then you gotta get a case.. [03:45] And all that [03:46] HickorySmokedBac: regardless, you might be better off asking about the capabilities of running a pi in #raspberrypi [03:46] Most people keep saying it's just a "learning tool" [03:46] ok [03:46] As for ubuntu, the link I gave you for Ubuntu Mate on the pi is the best way to get ubuntu on the pi [03:56] when I do a "ssh -T mymachine" it hangs - any ideas on how to fix this? [04:00] core71: why are you doing -T? [04:01] leftyfb: I am trying to clone a git repo remotely with my ssh credentials [04:02] core71: ok, so again, why -T? [04:02] core71: ssh user@remote -t "git clone ...." [04:03] leftyfb: thanks - sorry - got confused with T/t [04:03] that worked [05:08] What is the name of that menu in server 18.10 that lists various things you can set up during initial install? Is it just a fancy version of tasksel, or is it something else? [05:08] I was just wondering if there was a way to run it from a terminal post-install for easy adding of features later, like tasksel [05:46] Gerowen, i'm not sure what mean, but 18.10 had two installers ubiquity & subiquity (which ISO you grabbed dictates which you saw at install) - but I don't believe they are copied onto the installed system [05:49] guiverc_d: I installed Ubuntu Server for amd64 in a virtual machine for the first time a week or two ago. During the install process for older versions of it, and Debian still, there's a process called "tasksel" that basically uses glorified meta packages. It gives you a little list of tasks like "SSH Server - Apache Webserver" etc., you check a box, and then it sets up a basic configuration for that service for you. There was a similar feature in the [05:49] 18.10 amd64 server install, but it looked different and had many different things listed, and I was just curious if it was something else. [05:52] subiquity is a newer installer, i'm suspicious this is what you're asking about (esp. if you didn't use the 'live' installer) [05:53] (if it's something else, I have no idea sorry) [06:03] How can I choose which updates to intall? Popos... [06:05] what verison are you on [06:07] <_Anna_> How can I close a program skipping its auto-save? The command kill doesn't do that and unplugging the computer isn't practical :/ [06:25] test [06:26] _Anna_, why wouldn't kill do it? if you still get asked, `kill -9` (unnicely) [06:29] how to enroll key , when uefi boot [06:32] <_Anna_> Last time I tried kill, it gave time to auto-save before it closed it. "kill -9 pid" on the other hand, did what I need. [06:32] Linuxuser, Pop OS is not Ubuntu, nor an official flavor of Ubuntu - thus off-topic in this room. [06:41] hello [06:42] I want to sell my operating system [06:42] hello [06:43] I want to sell my os to ubuntu [06:44] june0618, we support Ubuntu which is open source, https://www.ubuntu.com/licensing === guiverc_d is now known as guiverc === shawn is now known as Guest49434 === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [07:21] how to add key to security boot database [07:24] whoareU: you mean partition encryption? [07:24] i think he means secure boot stuff [07:27] right , i need add key to security boot databsae [07:29] whoareU: mokutil might help you [07:29] cim209: i sign the virtualbox driver, the key must be add the uefi security boot database, and i don't how to do it [07:38] Hello. unattended-upgrade is stuck at position: Preparing to unpack .../unattended-upgrades_0.90ubuntu0.10_all.deb ... [07:38] [07:38] This is on Ubuntu 16.04 [07:41] whoareU: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot [07:42] hi there, 18.04.2 no usb headset audio - hwid: 046d:c336 [07:42] not muted, enabled and getting audio while playing in sound preferences, but no audio in headset :( [07:42] did sudo usb-reset 046d:c336 [07:42] installed pavucontrol/alsamixer, pulseaudio -k [07:42] nothing [07:43] tried different ports, all register, checked bios confirmed all ports are enabled [07:44] audio:x:29:pulse - not sure if i'm supposed to be in this group [07:45] there's a systemd .mount for snap-pulsemixer [07:58] hello lovely people, i'm here in hopes someone can give me a rtfm direction on my issue... my laptop running (last i recall 13.10... yes i know it's not a lts version). anyway i have rebooted it and got through grub loader and managed to load the kernel but the screen is skewed, i managed to login through the mess and try some xrandr reset options but to no avail... my screen is throwing extra [07:58] pixels along the horizontal axis resulting in skewed video. looks like a bunch of z's [07:58] any help would be so much appreciated [08:02] Poppycock: 13.10? that's been eol for a long, long time, and thus unsupported. you need to upgrade to a supported version. [08:03] yeah i know [08:03] lol [08:03] kinda figured that would be what would be said [08:03] but i just wanted to check what was on my desktop and all before i wiped it all and gparted it [08:03] 14.04 is supported another month, so if you hurry ... [08:04] geirha if i could get in enough to update i'd go for it, maybe... [08:04] problem is it's hard to read the output of the xterm lol [08:05] i tried tilting my head but when each line flows into the next by like 20 pixels it gets hard to read [08:05] severe skew [08:05] i suppose my best option is to download a live filesystem and try to fix from there if i want to restore this install [08:06] hey guys, I am keeping have this problem , when login into my server via ssh, the error is -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied, I follow the instructions on internet and delete /dev/null and recreate it by command mknod /dev/null c 3 2 and chown 666 /dev/null, then it is working, but the same error pop up when reboot the server, do you know why it is doing this? [08:06] Poppycock: boot off a live image to go through and rescue your data? [08:06] what about the virtual console, like Ctrl+Alt+F1, is that broken too? [08:06] Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back [08:06] ducasse yeah that's what i'm thinking [08:07] chmod, not chown [08:07] it should be generated automatically during boot [08:08] typically by being part of a special filesystem === Rosa_Acosta is now known as LaRose_Bleu === qwebirc76195 is now known as ConnectingMedia === ConnectingMedia is now known as Connecting_Media [08:20] Hi there! [08:20] In the default `~/.bashrc` in my Ubuntu installation is the line [08:20] PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}...' [08:21] And a bit further down I can see [08:21] PS1="\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1" [08:21] Now I do understand what the `${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}` stands for [08:21] But what I am wondering about is why it is added as a string in the first one and as a variable expansion in the second [08:21] From my (possibly limited) understanding it would make more sense to have the variables expanded late, so the second snippet should be [08:21] PS1='\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]'"$PS1" [08:21] Or am I missing something here? [08:22] If this is better suited for the forums, I'll be happy to post it there [08:22] Hey, I want to run a script every time I unlock(login) my computer [08:22] is that possible? [08:23] ducasse anyway thank you for the response, i appreciate the consideration =) === Poppycock is now known as GuestAgain [08:45] elichai2: maybe this helps https://askubuntu.com/questions/429716/how-to-run-a-command-or-script-at-screen-lock-unlock [08:52] EriC^^: hmm but I'm not using gnome, I have KDE === cpaelzer__ is now known as cpaelzer [08:56] elichai2: that's a dbus hook, desktop agnostic really. if you're on KDE, you just need a different dbus id [08:56] Connecting_Media: once inside a chroot, I doubt modifying the debian_chroot variable will do anything good, so using the variable as it was at the start of the shell should suffice. That said, they should make up their mind and pick only one of the options [09:04] geirha, I pretty much agree, except that I think users should see the real value of the variable. But I've gone ahead and posted it on the forum: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2413395 [09:05] Wondering if anyone can advise on data-recovery techniques / procedures etc [09:05] !info testdisk | nekowaiidesu [09:05] nekowaiidesu: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0-3build2 (bionic), package size 391 kB, installed size 1530 kB [09:05] Got a drive which filesystem is trashed, testdisk etc can't recognize. I've already used photorec to get all the data [09:06] nekowaiidesu: sudo photorec after, scan the whole hd and backup your data [09:06] ah [09:06] if photorec cant get it anymore, you probably lost [09:07] Thanks lotuspsychje ive got the data, but as a learning experience i wanted to try dig deeper [09:07] is there anything else I can do to fix the filesystem [09:07] nekowaiidesu: i think you need to find out whats happening with the HD itself first [09:08] nekowaiidesu: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in the HD to see the errors [09:08] i cant install anything from my terminal, someone help [09:09] collinsmarra: sudo apt install yourpackagename [09:09] it gives me errors [09:10] !paste | collinsmarra [09:10] collinsmarra: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:11] The drive is /dev/sdc in this case. only real error I see is " p2 size 1033262 extends beyond EOD, truncated [09:11] " [09:11] E: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list (Component) [09:11] E: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list (Component) [09:11] E: The list of sources could not be read. [09:11] E: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list (Component) [09:11] E: The list of sources could not be read. [09:11] E: Malformed entry 1 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list (Component) [09:12] ^ lol [09:13] nekowaiidesu: try to browse around on the hd a bit, maybe more errors come? [09:14] lotuspsychje, i'll give it a go. Trying to learn more about sleuthkit at the moment to see if that leads me anywhere [09:14] nekowaiidesu: maybe if you have backup of your data already, try to reformat it? [09:15] I'm not too worried about the drive itself tbh. I was just hoping i'd be able to recover the data with the folder-structure [09:15] photorec just dumps everything into "recup_dir" [09:15] nekowaiidesu: you can make photorec scan on filetypes, wich is pretty nice [09:16] nekowaiidesu: its not the dir structures you want to save, but the data inside right? [09:16] Yeah. I understand photorec looks for file type headers, which is pretty nifty [09:16] !pastebin | collinsmarra [09:16] collinsmarra: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:16] and yes, the data is more important than the folder structure :P as I said, im just digging deeper for the learning experience [09:17] nekowaiidesu: we try to focus on ubuntu issues here actually, perhaps move to -offtopic or -discuss to learn? [09:20] My bad :) Will do, thanks again for the advice lotuspsychje [09:28] https://i.imgur.com/ZQmDkvA.png [09:29] !sources | collinsmarra fix them here [09:29] collinsmarra fix them here: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [09:29] collinsmarra: can you show us : [09:30] collinsmarra, it's telling you that you have made an error in line 1 of the listed file. It's a file that doesn't exist as installed, someone has added it to the machine. We can't see that file = but collinsmarra we don't support Linux Mint [09:30] collinsmarra: type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list | nc termbin.com 9999" [09:30] "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list " [09:30] a moment please [09:30] please dont use images to show text for the future [09:30] !Mint | collinsmarra [09:30] collinsmarra: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [09:41] ;;tlast [10:11] anyone able to help me with this? "installed grub-efi-amd64-signed package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 127" [10:18] nvm, I found it. Missing dependency in grub-common. Fixed by installing mokutil. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1814187 [10:18] Launchpad bug 1814187 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "package grub-efi-amd64 2.02-2ubuntu8.10 failed to install/upgrade: installed grub-efi-amd64 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 127" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:32] Hi all, could someone please help installing Jack Audio Connection Toolkit, Im using Ubuntu 18.10, and am not too famillier with the terminal [10:32] how can i know size of ram of laptop on ubuntu? [10:34] no one is here? [10:34] :( [10:35] help me i m pretty girl only :( [10:35] badSophia: htop [10:35] htop? [10:35] ah [10:35] sudo apt install htop? [10:36] cim209: ? [10:36] badSophia: yes, or just do "free -m" [10:36] ubuntu has a task manager already installed, don't know what it's called [10:36] i don't use ubuntu desktop [10:36] ah free -m [10:36] cim209: then debian? [10:36] ah [10:36] i use ubuntu server [10:36] or cat /proc/meminfo [10:36] task manager [10:36] or just "top" [10:36] ah great [10:37] anyway, there are no girls on the internet... [10:37] lol [10:37] total 5755 <<— can i know this size? [10:37] but i m girl [10:37] :( [10:37] that's like 6gb [10:38] ah [10:38] great [10:38] you being a girl is irrelevant [10:38] i install another 4 GB from 2GB, it is correct [10:38] now i have 6GB ram 8) [10:39] congrats! [10:39] thanks Meili :) [10:39] Please guys, I need guidance, I cant seem to be able to install JACK Audio, could someone please help? [10:41] GOAtia: I have no experience with JACK, but I would suggest you clarified your issue. What do you need help with exactly? [10:46] thanks for the responce, I am trying to run Hydrogen drum synth, progam works fine except for the audio output, I presume it uses a midi driver, research suggested I need to install JACK audio, I used this on Ubuntu studio, but am unable to install it on my current system using sudo apt-get install jack-tools ant openjdk-6-jdk fftw3 qjackctl [10:48] Returns E: Unable to locate package openjdk-6-jdk [10:48] GOAtia, you have 'universe' enabled; it's in that repo. (ubuntu-studio has that enabled by default, it's not enabled by default in main Ubuntu) [10:48] GOAtia: for some specifics on what you are trying to do, you could also ask in #ubuntustudio [10:49] GOAtia: but follow guiverc suggetsion on the apt install issue [10:49] Thanks guys, how do I enable universe? [10:50] GOAtia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu [10:51] I shall try, many thanks [10:52] GOAtia, the first picture on that wiki page, the 'second check-box' is what you need. [10:53] :) thanks === Mark is now known as Guest53199 [11:41] What is wrong with my /etc/default/grub file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gbgc6bsMRY/ The computer stops at the grub menu at boot with no count down timer and will remain indefinitely until I press enter to continue. How to I make it hide the grub menu and boot normally? [11:43] BlackDalek: did you shotdown computer wrong perhaps? [11:44] BlackDalek: purple or black n white grub? === richard is now known as Guest96551 [11:44] BlackDalek: try maybe "sudo update-grub" and make sure the PC is shut down properly [11:45] lotuspsychje, I haven't noticed any problems. May I should check the log? [11:46] can i recommend funny thing? [11:46] for help [11:46] lotuspsychje, it's a reddish brown grub menu [11:46] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KF98FHxcrA <— this is very funny lol [11:47] badSophia: not here please [11:47] i laugh too many times [11:47] :( [11:47] badSophia, that belongs in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic [11:47] yeah but it is really funny [11:47] ok [11:52] BlackDalek: system up to date also? graphics drivers installed correctly? [11:53] lotuspsychje, sudo apt-get update tells me there is nothing to upgrade [11:54] BlackDalek: sudo lshw -C video, shows driver=..? [11:55] lotuspsychje, please wait a moment. the machine is rebooting. I just wanted to see if doing a update-grub changes anything.... Restarting now... [11:55] Hey folks [11:56] hi [11:57] i need help ssh-ing into an ubuntu instance on my laptop [11:57] i looked online and the tutorials / instructionals are out of date [11:58] they reference what i presume is the last verion of openssh before the current was updated and the config files changed [11:58] lotuspsychje, ok.. update-grub changed nothing. Grub menu still appears. Now waiting for it to finish booting so I can list video drivers for you are requested... [12:00] lotuspsychje, it lists information about the display. It doesn't mention "driver=" anywhere [12:00] BlackDalek: should be at bottom [12:00] lotuspsychje, sorry I am blind. It says i915 [12:01] BlackDalek: allright, what about your ubuntu version and kernel please? [12:01] LaRose_Bleu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH [12:02] lotuspsychje, Ubuntu 18.04.2 #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 29 16:28:13 UTC 2019 [12:03] lotuspsychje, also .. 4.15.0-45-generic [12:04] BlackDalek: looks good, just compared your grub with mine, and looks the same hmmm [12:05] Gtk-Message: 17:45:30.856: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. when i run virtualbox, command line prompt [12:07] whoareU: any reason why you launch virtualbox from terminal? [12:08] BlackDalek: you could try "quiet splash" to "" and update-grub again [12:08] lotuspsychje, ok. I will try that [12:08] i am used to [12:09] whoareU: its an error alot of GUI packages get, when launched from terminal, no big problem [12:10] ok, [12:10] whoareU: i assume virtualbox just works after that? [12:12] lotuspsychje, changes have been made to /etc/default/grub... machine is restarting now..... The grub menu persists [12:14] lotuspsychje: i don't understand what you meaning , why it appear many times? [12:14] whoareU, it's a warning message from 'upstack' of vbox; a vbox coder took a shortcut (or more likely wrote for a different [older] version of GTK+) [12:15] whoareU, you can ignore them, only coders will understand what it's telling you (& they ignore it usually anyway) [12:16] oh, i see, thanks of all [12:17] BlackDalek: did you recently upgraded to 18.04 maybe? [12:17] who [12:17] lotuspsychje, this is the grub menu I am seeing (the top entry is difficult to make out but says "*UBUNTU") https://imagebin.ca/v/4YEaV6qa7N5v [12:18] lotuspsychje, yes and no. I did upgrade this from 16.04 to 18.04.2, but not in the usual way. [12:19] ah, i think i had this the same way over an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 BlackDalek [12:20] BlackDalek: what do you mean with 'not usual way'? [12:21] thanks guiverc will check it out [12:21] lotuspsychje, this is a horrible Apple macmini circa 2006 with 32bit boot and 64bit OS. In order to upgrade it, I could not just boot from a 18.04 installer. I had to format it. Reinstall Mac OS Snow Leopard. Install rEFIt boot loader, only then could I boot from the 18.04 installer DVD. [12:22] LaRose_Bleu, if it's Ubuntu documentation (ie. wiki.ubuntu.com, help.ubuntu.com) I'm interested in out-of-date, so it can be updated.. if it's blogs etc. (or non-Ubuntu) we can't do anything [12:23] (i'm referring to what you said was out-of-date unspecified ...) [12:23] lotuspsychje, I did try to upgrade using so-release-upgrade.. but that only broke the system and made it unbootable because i guess it was expecting a "normal" boot loader [12:23] !ltsupgrade | BlackDalek [12:23] BlackDalek: Upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.1 is now available, if you do not receive the upgrade window try update-manager -c [12:24] shouldn't that be 18.04.2 by now? [12:24] im not sure blackflow [12:24] new iso's are .2 right [12:25] lotuspsychje, but Apple were smoking something strong when they created this machine... so it broke. Anyway. It was essentially reformatted. made an Apple OS and then reformatted again and installed with the current OS. [12:25] whether "Ubuntu does not sign the third party vbox* kernel modules" is true? i can't sign vbox module on my 18.04 version [12:26] lotuspsychje, is it possible that it is Apple's screwy hardware causing the grub menu to appear every boot? [12:26] BlackDalek: i dont think so, i presume its something from the upgrade [12:27] i recall having the same problem on an upgrade once [12:27] lotuspsychje, hmmm... but what could be left over? something from the Mac OS causing the problem? [12:28] guiverc: its non ubuntu, havent been led to an ubuntu wiki yet, i think. what imdoing, or trying to do, is ssh into my ubuntu session on WSL, and i am having several issues [12:29] When the mac OS was put back onto it there shouldn't have been any trace of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS or grub left on it... Would have been replaced by Apple's own boot loader etc. [12:29] BlackDalek: try setting grub timeout to 1 and update-grub after [12:29] :) on non-Ubuntu doco... I'm heading to bed LaRose_Bleu so can't help now sorry [12:29] lotuspsychje, ok [12:30] its alrigh guiverc i'll figure it out eventually [12:30] lotuspsychje, should I also put "quiet splash" back too? [12:30] or i'll give up and move on, whichever comes first [12:31] BlackDalek: if you want logo boot instead of textboot sure [12:31] hmm I am seeking an advice, i am going to develop kernel driver on my VM ubuntu machine, now how should I set up the test env to don't brick it? [12:31] another VM inside or sth else? [12:32] did "quiet splash" have an underscore between it or just a normal space? [12:32] I can't remember [12:33] BlackDalek: just a space [12:34] lotuspsychje, restarting it now... [12:36] lotuspsychje, the same grub menu you saw in my imagebin paste persists. It is waiting for me to press enter still. [12:37] BlackDalek: you update-grub right? [12:37] lotuspsychje, yes... right before I did sudo shutdown now [12:37] allright [12:37] im out of ideas then BlackDalek [12:37] I blame apple [12:38] other than needing to press enter at every boot, everything else is working fine (for now) [12:38] maybe a bleachbit system cleanup BlackDalek [12:38] lotuspsychje, what does bleachbit mean? [12:39] i assume more its something from upgrading [12:39] !info bleachbit | BlackDalek [12:39] BlackDalek: bleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-2 (bionic), package size 316 kB, installed size 2003 kB [12:40] lotuspsychje, is that safe to use or will it likely break something? [12:41] BlackDalek: i never had issues with it, but some say its wise to read the manual first :p [12:42] BlackDalek: in my case i enable all options and wipe alot of space clean [12:46] lotuspsychje, I think I will leave it for now... just moments into browsing the options for bleachbit in its GUI, a "system problem detected" error popped up so I just quit the thing without letting it make any changes. I need to sleep now. BYe [12:47] allrighty [12:50] hey all, I've got a directory "files" which is chmod 744, don't ask me why. When some random user does "ls files" he get's a `ls: cannot access files/..: permission denied` `ls: cannot access files/file1.csv: permission denied` etcetera [12:51] `ls` prints a lot of question marks in the following output.... [12:52] obviously this is because `chmod o+r` on this directory, but I don't get what's really happening === hussan is now known as t0th_- [12:53] /msg NickServ identify n455uh [12:54]