 @docEbrown [Hans, are you still there?], now I'm
 but I'm in another pc now, with lxde
 cool.  So it is possible I'm on the total wrong track.
 ???
 I was thinking it sounds like the issue is just getting the feed in and out of qterminal right?  qterminal provides all the interface for the update.  Also the work you have done is amazing so please dont think I think otherwise
 not quite
 sorry qterminal provides the interface
 to watch the apt-update
 the story is this. For apt upgrade (or dist-upgrade) you can use aptdaemon
 but aptdaemon lacks info during the installation process, it has during the download but not during the installation
 this is why I'm trying to "attach" a terminal to aptdaemon, to see what is happening
 There is another way of solving this which is opening a terminal and run "sudo apt dist-upgrade"
 te problem with that approach is that when you run qterminal to execute something, it closes after finish. Example "qterminal -e ls"
 ok excellent.  Thanks for clearing.  Let me have a play and I'll get back to you.  Sorry for this being so time consuming and convoluted!
 jajaa, no, thank you
 we will get there! My stubborness has kicked in ;)
 we can't let this beat us ;)
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[03:11] <wxl> ok time to do some stuff
 Ohai
[03:12] <wxl> howzit
 *throws a stack on wxl's desk* get at it, boss XD
 Good good
[03:12] <wxl> i just got done shoveling 9 inches of snow
 Pffft
 Those are rookie numbers
[03:13] <wxl> not for out here
 Normal day here.
 Yesterday half of it melted, and today it ALL FROZE OVER
 Same here.
 40 mph winds too
 Uff, yeah
[03:14] <wxl> thus the reason for shoveling.. no want freezing
[03:15] <wxl> no winds here thank god, but we had lots of downed trees from the weight of the snow
 It melts anyway
 Nine inches of snow downs trees? Jeeez
[03:15] <wxl> different trees, dude
[03:15] <wxl> similarly, there are plenty of plants that don't do well in the desert
 Meh
 This 32 bit beast is slow to install on.
 Almost there.
[03:18] <wxl> you doing 16.04.6?
 Indeed.
[03:18] <wxl> makes sense
 Last time I did a Lubuntu install on my 32 bit machine before I had to decommission it, it took somewhere around an hour
 It takes about 25 minutes but it feels like an eternity.
 Yeah
 I'm out for the night. I don't have an EFI machine to test on but I could do it in a VM if we need.
[04:03] <wxl> i'm gonna do it in a vm
 Sounds good.
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[05:25] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i even did the optional for amd64. i could do i386 on amd64 for the i386 bits..
 Got 'er otter
 Woooo
 I'll mark amd64 as ready
 Just need i386
[05:28] <wxl> i imagine we could coerce kc2bez since he's got it on his machine
[05:28] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Xenial 16.04.6] has been marked as ready
[05:28] <wxl> the uefi thing for i386, though, is obviously a more complicated situation
 Yeaaah
 I might just call it good when that's the only one left
[05:29] <wxl> well we could
[05:29] <wxl> there's the optional one, too
 Nah, I'll call it good
[05:31] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Xenial 16.04.6] has been marked as ready
 Hey wxl, go review my code XD
 https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/bug-1654761/+merge/363643
[05:38] <wxl> oh hell no
[05:38] <wxl> way too deep of a rabbit hole
 XDDD
 Yeah, that took me a bit to wrap my head around.
[05:39] <wxl> i've been meaning to play with autopkgtest but never have
 It's fun stuff
 Especially when you grasp how AMQP and such works, and the relationship between the workers and the main server
 Britney is fun too
 Related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bileto/+bug/1817626
 If sil2100 acks I'll implement it
[05:43] <wxl> ampq is cute
[05:44] <wxl> which implementation they using?
 RabbitMQ
[05:44] <wxl> i played with that a bit at the first oscon i went to
[05:44]  * lynorian does not know what AMQP is
 Distributed queuing library of sorts
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 @wxl [<wxl> the uefi thing for i386, though, is obviously a more complicated situation], You mean an amd64 installation with a 32-bit UEFI?
[07:20] <guiverc> aptghetto - the conversation was about 16.04.6 QA-testing; it was i386 (not amd64)  -- no run-once test on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/400/builds/188839/testcases  ; but it was deemed acceptable without test
 AFAIK the Ubuntu i386 kernel does not support UEFI, but the the amd64 kernel can be booted from a 32-bit UEFI (grub-ia32). ... But maybe there was some change and Ubuntu allows also to install a i386 kernel on a 32 bit UEFI machine?
 Hey all, I'm helping Hans with the lubuntu-update-notifier.  I am testing in Disco Dingo and it is saying I am missing the Breeze-Dark theme.  Where can I get the official lubuntu breeze-dark for disco dingo?
[08:15] <guiverc> docEbrown: dpkg -S reveals "breeze-icon-theme: /usr/share/icons/breeze-dark/places/64/user-trash.svg" (a file (of thousands) I picked at random on my 19.04 system) -- maybe helpful?
 thanks!
 @guiverc [<guiverc> docEbrown: dpkg -S reveals "breeze-icon-theme: /usr/share/icons/breeze …], yeah it isnt installed at all dpkg -S showed nothing
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 @HMollerCl [jajaa, no, thank you], https://hastebin.com/esutebicec.coffeescript
 @HMollerCl I've had a bit of a play.  the process at line 16 will run in qterminal, but as qterminal takes over the stdout of the less process, it returns nothing of value to the python process.  So it may be worth putting in the qterminal script a pipe to a known file for debugging storage processes.  I also found https://github.co
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 Awesome!
 @S. J. [Great experience with 19.04. Keep up the good work. Around Feb. 20th a daily bui …], Oh yeah, so that daily was a bit borked
 That was GNOME :P
 Someone on the Ubuntu Desktop team made a mistake and we had to correct it, but it should be fine now, right?
 Awesome!
 Sure!
 Check out translate.lubuntu.me
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 @S. J. [Thanks a lot. Will have a look. Great OS!], Thanks!
 @tsimonq2 [Thanks!], so weblate works then?  :P
 @teward001 [so weblate works then?  :P], Yes :P
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[21:09] <wxl> re-spin of 16.04.6 coming :(
[21:10] <wxl> home encryption was busted so in addition to checking everything over we need to check that
 Oof
[21:11] <wxl> that said your i386 machine is going to be busy dan :///
 I will see if I can make it last.
 Aww man :(
[21:18] <guiverc> i can do re-install 16.04.6 to partition (manual) & live i686, the install-BIOS(desktop) can be any so can do that too (or could it be ticked off with manual-partition install?
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[23:53] <lynorian> was k3b purpsofully removed from the seed of 19.04?
[23:53] <wxl> is it gone???
[23:54] <lynorian> yes
[23:54] <lynorian> sorry for not bringing this up earlier
[23:54] <wxl> i had so many people complain about that missing
[23:55] <lynorian> well I don't have a fresh install currently but I should check if it is back on the seed
[23:55] <guiverc> (k3b: not on my system, nor the daily I'm running too)
[23:55] <wxl> i don't see anywhere that we removed it
[23:55] <wxl> did we never have it?????
 it was in 18.10
 maybe we didn't have it explicitly
 so, another package recommended it and now it does not.
[23:57] <wxl> i don't see it in the cosmic seed