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didrocksgood morning07:16
jibelSalut didrocks, ça va?07:18
didrocksça va jibel, et toi ?07:20
jibeldidrocks, bien bien, doing some iso testing for 16.04.6 ....07:21
didrockshum, "enjoy"07:22
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:47
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didrockssalut oSoMoN08:15
oSoMoNsalut didrocks08:15
seb128good morning desktopers08:46
seb128didrocks, oSoMoN, jibel, lut les frenchies08:46
oSoMoNsalut seb12808:47
seb128en forme ?08:47
jibelsalut seb12808:47
jibelen forme et toi?08:48
seb128un léger rhume mais sinon ça va08:48
didrockssalut seb12808:48
willcookemorning all08:56
willcookeI'm doing a rls-bugs list by hand this morning (haven't scripted it yet) - so I will send out the meeting reminder with all the bugs in it ASAP.08:56
willcookeGot a meeting with OEM now, so maybe in around 1hr08:56
willcookeseb128, FYI ^08:56
didrockshey willcooke08:57
willcookehi didrocks08:57
seb128willcooke, hey, wfm, I assumed that we would skip since it was not on the community hub weekly but yeah email might be a good first round workaround08:59
willcookeYeah, I figure it'll be useful.  At least it will be for me, since I can think about how to present the data while I'm putting it together09:00
Laneyhi09:02
seb128hey Laney, how are you? did you fully recover from friday?09:02
Laneyhi seb12809:09
LaneyI'm alright thanks, what about you?09:09
Laneyyeah pretty much, managed to go climbing last night so can't be that bad09:09
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke, Laney09:12
seb128I'm fine, a bit for a cold/blocked nose at night but I can't really complain09:15
Laneyhey oSoMoN09:32
TrevinhoAloha!09:52
oSoMoNaloha Trevinho09:58
seb128hey trevinho, how are you?09:59
didrockshey Trevinho10:04
Laneymoinco10:05
didrockshey Laney! :p10:05
Laneymoinrocks!10:06
jibelFYI latest disco desktop image promoted to current10:11
didrocks\o/10:14
Trevinhoseb128: all good thanks! :)10:20
Trevinhohi oSoMoN and didrocks too10:20
Trevinhoand to Laney too10:21
seb128thx jibel10:22
jibelcould someone try an encrypted home installation of 16.04.6 and tell if he can log in?10:31
jibelI get a permission denied when attempting to read the wrapped pass phrase10:33
didrocksjibel: happy to do it this afternoon10:36
didrocksif nobody beats me to it, starting the iso download right now10:38
jibelthis is the journal when I attempt to log in http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MXJNVbXV8g/10:39
jibeli'll report a bug10:39
willcookejibel, on it10:43
willcookedidrocks, do you know anything about tweaking the "pressure" in the dock?  I'd like to try some different numbers and see if I can smooth it out a bit (where the mouse gets stuck on the side of the screen), but I don't know where I should make those changes.  Looking at the code suggests there is UI for this, but I can't see it10:48
andyrockwillcooke: search for pressure-threshold in dconf-editor10:50
willcookeandyrock, thanks!10:50
andyrockshould be under /org/gnome/shell/extension/dash-to-dock10:50
andyrockor something like this10:50
willcookethx andyrock10:50
andyrocknp!10:50
willcookeoooh10:52
willcooke"Isolate monitors" is handy10:52
andyrockit what we used to have in unity?10:53
willcookeNot quite, but nearly I think10:53
andyrockor maybe we had workspace isolation?10:53
willcookethere's an option for that too10:53
willcookek, I've halved the pressure value and I will try that10:54
willcookesee how annoyed I get ;)10:55
Trevinhowillcooke: yeah, those are the kind of options I'd like to get live11:33
Trevinhosame with the one to have workspaces in the 2nd monitor too, that could then be disabled when in "presentation-mode"11:34
willcookeneat11:38
mdeslaurtkamppeter: hi! were you able to reproduce the blue page ghostscript regression? if so, could you please test the new ghostscript packages in the security team ppa here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages12:30
mdeslaurtkamppeter: I can't seem to reproduce the original issue, so I don't know if the second upstream commit actually fixes it or not12:31
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seb128mdeslaur, I can reproduce the blue page with12:51
seb128$ gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sOutputFile=bug -sDEVICE=cups -dcupsColorSpace=17 -c "showpage"12:51
seb128mdeslaur, then $ git clone https://github.com/michaelrsweet/rasterview; cd rasterview; ./configure; ./rasterview bug12:52
seb128if that helps12:52
mdeslaurseb128: oh sweet, yes that helps12:52
seb128(need libfltk1.3-dev to build the rasterview)12:52
mdeslaurthanks seb12812:53
seb128np12:53
seb128and confirmed that .6 doesn't have the issue forme12:53
seb128(now trying the ppa version)12:53
seb128yeah, .7 is fine (at least no blue bg)12:55
mdeslaurseb128: awesome, thanks for the test hint...I'll try it too in a few minutes12:56
seb128np12:56
mdeslaurtkamppeter: nm, seb helped me out ^12:57
seb128mdeslaur, you can replace the "-c showpage"" by an pdf filename also for a more "concrete" example12:58
mdeslauroh, good13:00
seb128we should snap that rasterview :)13:01
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Laneyjbicha: I pushed g-s-d to lp git, did you want to review / upload maybe?13:42
Laneyalso, thx for gvfs13:42
* Laney pops out for a bit (will probably be late for the meeting)13:44
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seb128ok, meeting time14:30
seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-02-2614:30
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andyrocko/14:30
seb128Roll call: andyrock, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out), laney (late?), oSoMoN, tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)14:31
oSoMoNo/14:31
TrevinhoO/14:31
didrockshey14:32
seb128quite some people out today, let's get started anyway14:32
jibelhi14:32
seb128#topic rls-bugs-review14:32
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:32
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seb128no desktop section for -bb but bug #1803136 sounds like it should be owned by desktop14:33
ubot5bug 1803136 in vala (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Update to vala 0.40.13 in bionic" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180313614:33
seb128though that it's in universe14:33
didrocksit impacts potential rebuilds in main, though?14:34
seb128I vote rls-bb-notfixing, it's a valid request and we should SRU it but it's not worth rls tracking14:34
seb128well, it might14:34
* didrocks always feels uneasy with vala update14:34
seb128but it shouldn't? it's a bugfix update14:34
Trevinhonot sure...14:34
seb128no reason we need to rebuild thing, though it could lead to ftbfs-es14:35
didrocksyeah, but bugfixing means doing a mass rebuild anyway, so… +1 on -notfixing14:35
seb128anyway14:35
didrocks(or segfaults at runtime :p)14:35
seb128k, let's not argue if (test) rebuilds are required on not, it's not useful if we rls-bb-notfixing14:35
* seb128 updates the bug14:35
Trevinhodoes it need rebuilding the vala world all the times?14:36
didrocksTrevinho: well, generated C code will get the fixes, no?14:37
seb128fixing the toolchain and updating our packages to benefit of the fixes are different things14:38
seb128we can update the toolchain first and then evaluates what would benefit from a rebuild14:38
seb128but that's a conversation for post meeting :)14:38
Trevinhoyep, depends on the fixes... Could also be just on the compiler itself. then bugs depend on specific cases I think14:38
seb128that was the one bionic incoming14:38
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:38
didrocks(but it means that a security update later can have more troubles than needed due to untested rebuild first, but agreed, discussion for later)14:39
seb128same vala situation there14:39
didrocksyep14:39
seb128and that's the one one for cosmic14:40
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:40
seb128that is more interesting14:40
seb128bug #181702014:41
ubot5bug 1817020 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Touching and dragging an icon on the dock blocks input to other apps" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181702014:41
seb128that basically screws your session14:41
andyrockI can take this14:41
seb128but most of our users don't use touch14:41
seb128k, so I vote +1 and assignee andyrock :)14:41
Trevinho andyrock ❤️14:41
seb128others agree on nominating?14:41
seb128andyrock, thx!14:41
andyrocknp14:41
didrockshard to argue against :p14:41
seb128done14:42
andyrockthx14:42
seb128bug #181754614:42
ubot5bug 1817546 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Disco) "Changing the volume (with the mouse wheel over icon) locks up gnome-shell" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181754614:42
seb128+1 for me for nominating14:43
seb128trevinho, you want to own that one?14:43
andyrock+114:43
Trevinhoyep14:43
seb128thx14:43
seb128next14:43
seb128bug #181712814:43
ubot5bug 1817128 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "gnome-keyring not automatically unlocked on login" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181712814:43
seb128I vote +1, I'm ok to own it14:43
seb128(I hope GNOME fixes it for .0 but otherwise we know what commit to revert)14:44
seb128k, no other vote, let's do that and move on14:45
seb128bug #181749014:45
ubot5bug 1817490 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell-extension-appindicator 23-1 is busted -- no appindicators are displayed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181749014:45
seb128that has already been handled, the new version just needed to be locked to the same gnome-shell serie14:45
seb128L_aney uploaded that earlier14:45
seb128bug #144037214:45
ubot5bug 1440372 in duplicity (Ubuntu) "please port duplicity to Python3" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144037214:45
seb128I vote -1 / notfixing14:45
didrocksyeah, same as well14:46
TrevinhoWasn't there a branch already?14:46
TrevinhoIIRC...14:46
seb128unsure why it has been tagged, that's nothing new nor urgent14:46
seb128not that I know14:46
didrockswell, there is a branch from 2015, from mterry, but tested? Why not merged? unsure14:47
seb128yeah, no reason it needs to be important not for disco in any case14:47
seb128bug #181694514:47
ubot5bug 1816945 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "failsafeXServer does not parse Xorg.failsafe.log correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181694514:47
seb128that has a patch and looks like worth fixing (I don't know what's the status of failsafe nowadays, I think I read comments saying it didn't work (well) with gdm/recent Ubuntu versions)14:48
seb128I vote +114:48
seb128tjaalton, can you review the patch/test that?14:48
seb128k, no other opinion? :(14:49
seb128I do accept/assign & let's move to next one14:50
didrocksI'm unsure it even works TBH14:50
Laneyback14:50
seb128right14:50
seb128wb Laney14:50
seb128you got saved by a long list of dd-incoming, we didn't reach your section yet :)14:50
seb128bug #181707314:51
ubot5bug 1817073 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "GNOME Shell crash when an asset is not found (due to too many logs spawn by appindicator extension)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181707314:51
seb128brb, door bell14:51
seb128please discuss ^14:51
didrocksI'm on +1 fixing it, this is a bad behavior which can crash the shell by $whatever_app14:51
didrocksI can have a look if Trevinho or andyrock don't have time for it, I will be less effective though as they know more the code than I do14:51
andyrockI took a look during the sprint (forget to put it in the weekly report) but was unable to reproduce the problem14:52
didrocks(I guess there are 2 parts: 1. printing the asset name so that app authors can see that on the log and 2. prevent the infinite loop)14:52
seb128I agree that it would be nice to fix it14:52
didrocksandyrock: with a simple app and no asset?14:52
didrockslike simple app publishing an indicator (do you have any handy?)14:52
seb128we didn't seem to have much report and seems specific to a not-used-a-lot software14:52
andyrockdidrocks: with their app14:53
didrocksahhh, interesting14:53
TrevinhoI expect the shell not to crash more than the extension though14:53
didrocksanyway, I can havae a try to reproduce14:53
seb128let's discuss details after the meeting14:53
andyrockif no one wants to take this feel free to assign it to me14:53
seb128I think I -1 tracking it as -rls because it's obviously not something lot of users have been hitting14:53
* Laney thinks assign but not rls personally14:53
seb128agreed14:53
andyrockmakes sense14:53
didrocks(was twitter-popular for a while, this is why it got my attention btw)14:54
didrocks(and blaming ubuntu, blablabla)14:54
seb128didrocks, I assign to you to find a reproducer then feel free to reassign to andy14:54
didrockssure14:54
seb128bug #177281114:55
ubot5bug 1772811 in OEM Priority Project "different behaviors for switch display mode between xenial and bionic" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177281114:55
seb128I think that's fixed in proposed14:55
seb128trevinho, correct?14:55
Trevinhoyeah it should14:55
seb128if so can you update the status?14:55
seb128thx14:55
Trevinhoyep. Forgot to add it in the changelog it seems14:56
seb128k14:56
seb128so, tracking list14:56
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html all owned14:56
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:57
seb128bug #179662214:57
ubot5bug 1796622 in network-manager (Ubuntu Cosmic) "NetworkManager IPv6 DAD lifetime behavior introduce security risk" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179662214:57
seb128cosmic needs fixing/SRU to the current version14:57
seb128let's assign to Till14:57
LaneyTill mentioned that on his report14:58
seb128right14:58
seb128bug #181570814:58
ubot5bug 1815708 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Use ODRS for reviews" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181570814:58
seb128I assign that one to robert since he uploaded the change to cosmic https://launchpadlibrarian.net/411242971/gnome-software_3.30.2-0ubuntu10_source.changes14:59
seb128or I will later if launchpad stops timeouting on me :/15:00
seb128that's it for cosmic15:00
andyrockregarding this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/179929315:00
ubot5Launchpad bug 1799293 in gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock (Ubuntu Disco) "Locking the screen once leaves screen contents visible but not interactive. Locking the screen a second time works." [Undecided,Incomplete]15:00
andyrockdo we really care about  gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock15:00
andyrockit's fixed in  gnome-shell-extension-ubuntudock15:00
andyrockand upstream15:00
seb128it would be nicer to fix it there, but it's not a priority15:00
seb128don't spend time on it15:01
LaneyIMO not as a team, but you can use ~ubuntu-sponsors and someone might pick it up15:01
Laney...if you want...15:01
seb128+115:01
didrockssounds good15:01
andyrockkk15:01
seb128ok, moving on15:01
seb128bb-tracking15:01
seb128bug #176389215:02
ubot5bug 1763892 in mutter (Ubuntu Cosmic) "144Hz/120Hz monitor but mutter seems to cap rendering at 60FPS" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176389215:02
Trevinhoduflu area15:02
seb128he's on it, started with cosmic15:02
seb128let's assign to him15:02
seb128bug #176999115:02
ubot5bug 1769991 in network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Bionic) "[16.04] Unable to import OpenVPN configuration into Network Manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176999115:02
seb128k, unsure how that got nominated but I think it shouldn't at this point15:03
seb128I'm deleting the xenial/bionic targets and asking that guy to follow the process (he needs to provides details anyway)15:04
seb128and the odrs one is same as cosmic, for Robert15:04
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/1769991/+activity that guy?15:04
ubot5Launchpad bug 1769991 in network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Bionic) "[16.04] Unable to import OpenVPN configuration into Network Manager" [Undecided,New]15:04
Laney:>15:04
seb128yes15:04
seb128does anyone know him?15:04
didrocksnope15:04
Laneyif you mean teward, he's an ubuntu-dev15:04
Laneyhowever, that's not the guy I'm referringn to15:05
Laney(scroll down to "bug task added")15:05
Trevinhonope too15:05
seb128lol15:05
seb128I did the xenial one15:05
seb128not bionic :p15:05
Laney:D15:05
seb128aaaanyway15:05
seb128:)15:05
seb128#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages15:05
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seb128Laney, your turn!15:06
Laneyok15:06
Laney glib2.0 (2.59.2-2 to 2.59.3-1) in proposed for 5 days15:06
Laneygive me a card for that, I don't think Jeremy is going to take it15:06
Laney gnome-software (3.30.6-2ubuntu2 to 3.31.2-0ubuntu1) in proposed for 4 days15:06
Laneytwo things15:06
Laney Unsatisfiable depends:15:06
Laney    libxmlb1: amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x15:06
Laneythat's an MIR https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxmlb/+bug/181499715:06
ubot5Launchpad bug 1814997 in libxmlb (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxmlb" [Undecided,Triaged]15:07
Laneynot sure if we want to get that raised up or not15:07
LaneyBlocked by bug: 181722315:07
ubot5bug 1817223 in libxmlb (Ubuntu) "[disco-proposed] The list of applications in Ubuntu Software is empty" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181722315:07
Laneyimho that should be nominated15:07
Laneyand tracked that way15:07
didrocks(MIR is pending security)15:07
seb128we should raise it up/ask security, it blocks also the new fwupd15:07
seb128+1, let's do that15:07
* didrocks agrees15:08
Laneycool15:08
Laneyand the bug, nominate/assign to robert?15:09
Laneyhe's been working on it, but for tracking15:09
seb128yes, I do that15:10
Laneythx15:10
Laney gvfs blocking glibc (2.28-0ubuntu1 to 2.29-0ubuntu1) for 4 days15:10
Laney    Regressions15:10
Laney        gvfs/1.39.91-1: amd64 (log, history), s390x (log, history)15:10
Laneyjbicha uploaded a new one, but http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/gvfs/disco/amd64 for that looks bad15:10
Laneycard it15:10
Laney cairo (1.16.0-2 to 1.16.0-3) in proposed for 3 days15:11
Laney    Regressions15:11
Laney        gnome-shell-pomodoro/0.14.0-1: amd64 (log, history), arm64 (log, history), armhf (log, history), i386 (log, history), ppc64el (log, history)15:11
Laneycard that too, looks like something valaish15:11
LaneyI didn't look at the ones that are greyed out15:11
Laneyso, end15:11
seb128k15:11
seb128do we kno what's the status of the gnome-shell transition?15:12
Laneygoing to have to remove some extensions to proposed15:12
seb128do we demote extensions to proposed, if so who is working on getting the list? jbicha?15:12
Laneyjeremy did some stuff on his status15:12
Laneybut it can't go in until glibc is done anyway15:12
seb128right15:13
seb128I'm looking at poppler which I started (for the record)15:13
andyrockglibc is already fixed upstream right?15:13
Laneydunno, not our team15:13
Laneyso I'm not tracking it ;-)15:13
Laneythey were mentioning it a bit on release though so I know it's being worked on15:13
seb128andyrock, glib you mean? glibc is libc6 and that has a bunch of autopkgtest issues15:13
seb128but that's for foundations to sort out15:14
seb128#topic aob15:14
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seb128other topics?15:14
andyrockoh missed the c :P15:14
seb128reminder we are in feature freeze, so updates including features need a ffe15:14
seb128also if you had a feature that you wanted to land and missed the line please let me know15:14
Laneyso it can be DENIED15:15
andyrockahahaha15:15
TrevinhoIano the terrible15:15
TrevinhoIanus*15:15
seb128:)15:15
seb128reading Jeremy's post again15:15
seb128Laney, trevinho, he mentioned that gnome-shell needs the new g-s-d probably for keybinding to work, did we lock those together through propers packaging tweaks?15:16
seb128(I could check myself, sorry for being lazy)15:16
andyrockI confirm that it requires the new g-s-d15:17
Trevinhoseb128: hmhmg... There was no dep change. But not in the released one15:17
Trevinhoit's for next one15:17
seb128k15:17
seb128seems all15:17
Trevinhoandyrock: maybe send upstream meson change too15:17
seb128no other topic?15:17
seb128k, seems not, let's call it a wrap, the meeting was long enough with a busy list of rls bugs (welcome into post-ff time ;)15:18
didrocksnothing for me15:18
seb128thx desktopers!15:18
didrocksthx!15:18
seb128#endmeeting15:18
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Feb 26 15:18:32 2019 UTC.15:18
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-02-26-14.30.moin.txt15:18
oSoMoNthanks15:18
seb128oh also, I think we should change slightly the rls reviews15:18
andyrockthx!15:18
Trevinhothanks15:18
seb128have people do +1/0/-1 votes maybe15:19
seb128often the chair sit down there waiting on someone to maybe comment15:19
seb128but that doesn't happen15:19
seb128and we all sit down looking at the screen and waiting for a minute15:19
oSoMoNI feel that for most of those bugs I don't have a deep understanding of the problem, at least not without spending a few minutes reading the description and comments15:21
seb128then it's a =0 :)15:22
oSoMoNmaybe I should reserve some time before the meeting to go through the rls bugs and read them?15:22
seb128or we should perhaps ask people to read the bugs before the meeting15:23
seb128yeah, that's an option15:23
Laneynot sure it's right that this should be a voting thing15:23
Laneyimho15:23
oSoMoNnot a bad thing imo, that would give the entire team a better common view of what's incoming15:23
seb128let's have a proper discussion at another time then15:24
seb128but yeah, maybe it shouldn't be a voting15:24
seb128I just feel like we didn't find a smooth process and we are wasting a part of the meeting waiting for people to comment or not which is suboptimal15:25
Laneymy idea before was to have a bug master15:25
seb128right15:25
Laneyanyway, worth thinking about, it's one of the less smooth parts for sure15:26
Trevinhowould need something interactive.. like a web page, quick voting with countdown... :-)15:27
andyrockwhat's the password required to enter in a failed autopkgtest console?15:36
Laneyubuntu15:36
Laneyare you taking glib?15:37
andyrocknope15:37
andyrocktracker15:37
Laneyk good15:38
Laneyseb128: are you making the cards for proposed stuff or?15:38
andyrocklet me know if you need help with glib15:38
seb128Laney, yes, sorry I didn't want to get too sidetracked during the meeting so I put that in my gedit, about to get back to it15:39
Laneynp, just checking15:39
andyrock"ubuntu" does not work15:40
seb128it should :/15:42
Laneyubuntu/ubuntu15:43
seb128Laney, cards added15:52
Laneynice one15:52
jbichagvfs feels to me like it does better when the infrastructure isn't so busy doing stuff like rebuilding all the nodejs rdeps15:57
jbichait did pass for me yesterday in my PPA: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-disco-jbicha-dev/disco/amd64/g/gvfs/20190225_193205_31944@/log.gz15:57
jbichaplease bump the gvfs/s390x hint15:58
andyrockLaney: ubuntu/ubuntu works16:00
andyrocknot sure why it tells me to use systemd-coredump@localhost16:01
andyrockinstead of ubuntu@localhost16:01
Laneythat was some bug in autopkgtest16:07
seb128Laney, unsure how busy you are but slashd pinged me asking if we had debuging tip on bug #181773816:12
ubot5bug 1817738 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Can't change virtual terminal when auto-login is enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181773816:12
seb128or if that rings any bell16:12
Laneytips: turn debugging on in gdm config and see if it's saying anything in the journal16:18
seb128slashd, ^16:19
slashdLaney, seb128 yeah I did that already, it didn't said much. I'll give it another try16:20
seb128slashd, btw we usually don't directly target bugs to a serie if they don't have an owner, our process is to rather tag rls-bb-incoming (or other -nn according to the serie) and we review those and then approve&assign/decline as we feel appropriate16:21
slashdseb128, noted for next time16:22
seb128thx16:23
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