[07:16] <didrocks> good morning
[07:18] <jibel> Salut didrocks, ça va?
[07:20] <didrocks> ça va jibel, et toi ?
[07:21] <jibel> didrocks, bien bien, doing some iso testing for 16.04.6 ....
[07:22] <didrocks> hum, "enjoy"
[07:47] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
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[08:15] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:15] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[08:46] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:46] <seb128> didrocks, oSoMoN, jibel, lut les frenchies
[08:47] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[08:47] <seb128> en forme ?
[08:47] <jibel> salut seb128
[08:48] <jibel> en forme et toi?
[08:48] <seb128> un léger rhume mais sinon ça va
[08:48] <didrocks> salut seb128
[08:56] <willcooke> morning all
[08:56] <willcooke> I'm doing a rls-bugs list by hand this morning (haven't scripted it yet) - so I will send out the meeting reminder with all the bugs in it ASAP.
[08:56] <willcooke> Got a meeting with OEM now, so maybe in around 1hr
[08:56] <willcooke> seb128, FYI ^
[08:57] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:57] <willcooke> hi didrocks
[08:59] <seb128> willcooke, hey, wfm, I assumed that we would skip since it was not on the community hub weekly but yeah email might be a good first round workaround
[09:00] <willcooke> Yeah, I figure it'll be useful.  At least it will be for me, since I can think about how to present the data while I'm putting it together
[09:02] <Laney> hi
[09:02] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you? did you fully recover from friday?
[09:09] <Laney> hi seb128
[09:09] <Laney> I'm alright thanks, what about you?
[09:09] <Laney> yeah pretty much, managed to go climbing last night so can't be that bad
[09:12] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke, Laney
[09:15] <seb128> I'm fine, a bit for a cold/blocked nose at night but I can't really complain
[09:32] <Laney> hey oSoMoN
[09:52] <Trevinho> Aloha!
[09:58] <oSoMoN> aloha Trevinho
[09:59] <seb128> hey trevinho, how are you?
[10:04] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[10:05] <Laney> moinco
[10:05] <didrocks> hey Laney! :p
[10:06] <Laney> moinrocks!
[10:11] <jibel> FYI latest disco desktop image promoted to current
[10:14] <didrocks> \o/
[10:20] <Trevinho> seb128: all good thanks! :)
[10:20] <Trevinho> hi oSoMoN and didrocks too
[10:21] <Trevinho> and to Laney too
[10:22] <seb128> thx jibel
[10:31] <jibel> could someone try an encrypted home installation of 16.04.6 and tell if he can log in?
[10:33] <jibel> I get a permission denied when attempting to read the wrapped pass phrase
[10:36] <didrocks> jibel: happy to do it this afternoon
[10:38] <didrocks> if nobody beats me to it, starting the iso download right now
[10:39] <jibel> this is the journal when I attempt to log in http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MXJNVbXV8g/
[10:39] <jibel> i'll report a bug
[10:43] <willcooke> jibel, on it
[10:48] <willcooke> didrocks, do you know anything about tweaking the "pressure" in the dock?  I'd like to try some different numbers and see if I can smooth it out a bit (where the mouse gets stuck on the side of the screen), but I don't know where I should make those changes.  Looking at the code suggests there is UI for this, but I can't see it
[10:50] <andyrock> willcooke: search for pressure-threshold in dconf-editor
[10:50] <willcooke> andyrock, thanks!
[10:50] <andyrock> should be under /org/gnome/shell/extension/dash-to-dock
[10:50] <andyrock> or something like this
[10:50] <willcooke> thx andyrock
[10:50] <andyrock> np!
[10:52] <willcooke> oooh
[10:52] <willcooke> "Isolate monitors" is handy
[10:53] <andyrock> it what we used to have in unity?
[10:53] <willcooke> Not quite, but nearly I think
[10:53] <andyrock> or maybe we had workspace isolation?
[10:53] <willcooke> there's an option for that too
[10:54] <willcooke> k, I've halved the pressure value and I will try that
[10:55] <willcooke> see how annoyed I get ;)
[11:33] <Trevinho> willcooke: yeah, those are the kind of options I'd like to get live
[11:34] <Trevinho> same with the one to have workspaces in the 2nd monitor too, that could then be disabled when in "presentation-mode"
[11:38] <willcooke> neat
[12:30] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter: hi! were you able to reproduce the blue page ghostscript regression? if so, could you please test the new ghostscript packages in the security team ppa here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[12:31] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter: I can't seem to reproduce the original issue, so I don't know if the second upstream commit actually fixes it or not
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[12:51] <seb128> mdeslaur, I can reproduce the blue page with
[12:51] <seb128> $ gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sOutputFile=bug -sDEVICE=cups -dcupsColorSpace=17 -c "showpage"
[12:52] <seb128> mdeslaur, then $ git clone https://github.com/michaelrsweet/rasterview; cd rasterview; ./configure; ./rasterview bug
[12:52] <seb128> if that helps
[12:52] <mdeslaur> seb128: oh sweet, yes that helps
[12:52] <seb128> (need libfltk1.3-dev to build the rasterview)
[12:53] <mdeslaur> thanks seb128
[12:53] <seb128> np
[12:53] <seb128> and confirmed that .6 doesn't have the issue forme
[12:53] <seb128> (now trying the ppa version)
[12:55] <seb128> yeah, .7 is fine (at least no blue bg)
[12:56] <mdeslaur> seb128: awesome, thanks for the test hint...I'll try it too in a few minutes
[12:56] <seb128> np
[12:57] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter: nm, seb helped me out ^
[12:58] <seb128> mdeslaur, you can replace the "-c showpage"" by an pdf filename also for a more "concrete" example
[13:00] <mdeslaur> oh, good
[13:01] <seb128> we should snap that rasterview :)
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[13:42] <Laney> jbicha: I pushed g-s-d to lp git, did you want to review / upload maybe?
[13:42] <Laney> also, thx for gvfs
[13:44]  * Laney pops out for a bit (will probably be late for the meeting)
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[14:30] <seb128> ok, meeting time
[14:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-02-26
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[14:30] <andyrock> o/
[14:31] <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out), laney (late?), oSoMoN, tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[14:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[14:31] <Trevinho> O/
[14:32] <didrocks> hey
[14:32] <seb128> quite some people out today, let's get started anyway
[14:32] <jibel> hi
[14:32] <seb128> #topic rls-bugs-review
[14:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
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[14:33] <seb128> no desktop section for -bb but bug #1803136 sounds like it should be owned by desktop
[14:33] <ubot5> bug 1803136 in vala (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Update to vala 0.40.13 in bionic" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1803136
[14:33] <seb128> though that it's in universe
[14:34] <didrocks> it impacts potential rebuilds in main, though?
[14:34] <seb128> I vote rls-bb-notfixing, it's a valid request and we should SRU it but it's not worth rls tracking
[14:34] <seb128> well, it might
[14:34]  * didrocks always feels uneasy with vala update
[14:34] <seb128> but it shouldn't? it's a bugfix update
[14:34] <Trevinho> not sure...
[14:35] <seb128> no reason we need to rebuild thing, though it could lead to ftbfs-es
[14:35] <didrocks> yeah, but bugfixing means doing a mass rebuild anyway, so… +1 on -notfixing
[14:35] <seb128> anyway
[14:35] <didrocks> (or segfaults at runtime :p)
[14:35] <seb128> k, let's not argue if (test) rebuilds are required on not, it's not useful if we rls-bb-notfixing
[14:35]  * seb128 updates the bug
[14:36] <Trevinho> does it need rebuilding the vala world all the times?
[14:37] <didrocks> Trevinho: well, generated C code will get the fixes, no?
[14:38] <seb128> fixing the toolchain and updating our packages to benefit of the fixes are different things
[14:38] <seb128> we can update the toolchain first and then evaluates what would benefit from a rebuild
[14:38] <seb128> but that's a conversation for post meeting :)
[14:38] <Trevinho> yep, depends on the fixes... Could also be just on the compiler itself. then bugs depend on specific cases I think
[14:38] <seb128> that was the one bionic incoming
[14:38] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:39] <didrocks> (but it means that a security update later can have more troubles than needed due to untested rebuild first, but agreed, discussion for later)
[14:39] <seb128> same vala situation there
[14:39] <didrocks> yep
[14:40] <seb128> and that's the one one for cosmic
[14:40] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:40] <seb128> that is more interesting
[14:41] <seb128> bug #1817020
[14:41] <ubot5> bug 1817020 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Touching and dragging an icon on the dock blocks input to other apps" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817020
[14:41] <seb128> that basically screws your session
[14:41] <andyrock> I can take this
[14:41] <seb128> but most of our users don't use touch
[14:41] <seb128> k, so I vote +1 and assignee andyrock :)
[14:41] <Trevinho>  andyrock ❤️
[14:41] <seb128> others agree on nominating?
[14:41] <seb128> andyrock, thx!
[14:41] <andyrock> np
[14:41] <didrocks> hard to argue against :p
[14:42] <seb128> done
[14:42] <andyrock> thx
[14:42] <seb128> bug #1817546
[14:42] <ubot5> bug 1817546 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Disco) "Changing the volume (with the mouse wheel over icon) locks up gnome-shell" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817546
[14:43] <seb128> +1 for me for nominating
[14:43] <seb128> trevinho, you want to own that one?
[14:43] <andyrock> +1
[14:43] <Trevinho> yep
[14:43] <seb128> thx
[14:43] <seb128> next
[14:43] <seb128> bug #1817128
[14:43] <ubot5> bug 1817128 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "gnome-keyring not automatically unlocked on login" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817128
[14:43] <seb128> I vote +1, I'm ok to own it
[14:44] <seb128> (I hope GNOME fixes it for .0 but otherwise we know what commit to revert)
[14:45] <seb128> k, no other vote, let's do that and move on
[14:45] <seb128> bug #1817490	
[14:45] <ubot5> bug 1817490 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell-extension-appindicator 23-1 is busted -- no appindicators are displayed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817490
[14:45] <seb128> that has already been handled, the new version just needed to be locked to the same gnome-shell serie
[14:45] <seb128> L_aney uploaded that earlier
[14:45] <seb128> bug #1440372
[14:45] <ubot5> bug 1440372 in duplicity (Ubuntu) "please port duplicity to Python3" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440372
[14:45] <seb128> I vote -1 / notfixing
[14:46] <didrocks> yeah, same as well
[14:46] <Trevinho> Wasn't there a branch already?
[14:46] <Trevinho> IIRC...
[14:46] <seb128> unsure why it has been tagged, that's nothing new nor urgent
[14:46] <seb128> not that I know
[14:47] <didrocks> well, there is a branch from 2015, from mterry, but tested? Why not merged? unsure
[14:47] <seb128> yeah, no reason it needs to be important not for disco in any case
[14:47] <seb128> bug #1816945
[14:47] <ubot5> bug 1816945 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "failsafeXServer does not parse Xorg.failsafe.log correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1816945
[14:48] <seb128> that has a patch and looks like worth fixing (I don't know what's the status of failsafe nowadays, I think I read comments saying it didn't work (well) with gdm/recent Ubuntu versions)
[14:48] <seb128> I vote +1
[14:48] <seb128> tjaalton, can you review the patch/test that?
[14:49] <seb128> k, no other opinion? :(
[14:50] <seb128> I do accept/assign & let's move to next one
[14:50] <didrocks> I'm unsure it even works TBH
[14:50] <Laney> back
[14:50] <seb128> right
[14:50] <seb128> wb Laney
[14:50] <seb128> you got saved by a long list of dd-incoming, we didn't reach your section yet :)
[14:51] <seb128> bug #1817073
[14:51] <ubot5> bug 1817073 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "GNOME Shell crash when an asset is not found (due to too many logs spawn by appindicator extension)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817073
[14:51] <seb128> brb, door bell
[14:51] <seb128> please discuss ^
[14:51] <didrocks> I'm on +1 fixing it, this is a bad behavior which can crash the shell by $whatever_app
[14:51] <didrocks> I can have a look if Trevinho or andyrock don't have time for it, I will be less effective though as they know more the code than I do
[14:52] <andyrock> I took a look during the sprint (forget to put it in the weekly report) but was unable to reproduce the problem
[14:52] <didrocks> (I guess there are 2 parts: 1. printing the asset name so that app authors can see that on the log and 2. prevent the infinite loop)
[14:52] <seb128> I agree that it would be nice to fix it
[14:52] <didrocks> andyrock: with a simple app and no asset?
[14:52] <didrocks> like simple app publishing an indicator (do you have any handy?)
[14:52] <seb128> we didn't seem to have much report and seems specific to a not-used-a-lot software
[14:53] <andyrock> didrocks: with their app
[14:53] <didrocks> ahhh, interesting
[14:53] <Trevinho> I expect the shell not to crash more than the extension though
[14:53] <didrocks> anyway, I can havae a try to reproduce
[14:53] <seb128> let's discuss details after the meeting
[14:53] <andyrock> if no one wants to take this feel free to assign it to me
[14:53] <seb128> I think I -1 tracking it as -rls because it's obviously not something lot of users have been hitting
[14:53]  * Laney thinks assign but not rls personally
[14:53] <seb128> agreed
[14:53] <andyrock> makes sense
[14:54] <didrocks> (was twitter-popular for a while, this is why it got my attention btw)
[14:54] <didrocks> (and blaming ubuntu, blablabla)
[14:54] <seb128> didrocks, I assign to you to find a reproducer then feel free to reassign to andy
[14:54] <didrocks> sure
[14:55] <seb128> bug #1772811
[14:55] <ubot5> bug 1772811 in OEM Priority Project "different behaviors for switch display mode between xenial and bionic" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772811
[14:55] <seb128> I think that's fixed in proposed
[14:55] <seb128> trevinho, correct?
[14:55] <Trevinho> yeah it should
[14:55] <seb128> if so can you update the status?
[14:55] <seb128> thx
[14:56] <Trevinho> yep. Forgot to add it in the changelog it seems
[14:56] <seb128> k
[14:56] <seb128> so, tracking list
[14:56] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html all owned
[14:57] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:57] <seb128> bug #1796622
[14:57] <ubot5> bug 1796622 in network-manager (Ubuntu Cosmic) "NetworkManager IPv6 DAD lifetime behavior introduce security risk" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1796622
[14:57] <seb128> cosmic needs fixing/SRU to the current version
[14:57] <seb128> let's assign to Till
[14:58] <Laney> Till mentioned that on his report
[14:58] <seb128> right
[14:58] <seb128> bug #1815708
[14:58] <ubot5> bug 1815708 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Use ODRS for reviews" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815708
[14:59] <seb128> I assign that one to robert since he uploaded the change to cosmic https://launchpadlibrarian.net/411242971/gnome-software_3.30.2-0ubuntu10_source.changes
[15:00] <seb128> or I will later if launchpad stops timeouting on me :/
[15:00] <seb128> that's it for cosmic
[15:00] <andyrock> regarding this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1799293
[15:00] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1799293 in gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock (Ubuntu Disco) "Locking the screen once leaves screen contents visible but not interactive. Locking the screen a second time works." [Undecided,Incomplete]
[15:00] <andyrock> do we really care about  gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock
[15:00] <andyrock> it's fixed in  gnome-shell-extension-ubuntudock
[15:00] <andyrock> and upstream
[15:00] <seb128> it would be nicer to fix it there, but it's not a priority
[15:01] <seb128> don't spend time on it
[15:01] <Laney> IMO not as a team, but you can use ~ubuntu-sponsors and someone might pick it up
[15:01] <Laney> ...if you want...
[15:01] <seb128> +1
[15:01] <didrocks> sounds good
[15:01] <andyrock> kk
[15:01] <seb128> ok, moving on
[15:01] <seb128> bb-tracking
[15:02] <seb128> bug #1763892
[15:02] <ubot5> bug 1763892 in mutter (Ubuntu Cosmic) "144Hz/120Hz monitor but mutter seems to cap rendering at 60FPS" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1763892
[15:02] <Trevinho> duflu area
[15:02] <seb128> he's on it, started with cosmic
[15:02] <seb128> let's assign to him
[15:02] <seb128> bug #1769991
[15:02] <ubot5> bug 1769991 in network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Bionic) "[16.04] Unable to import OpenVPN configuration into Network Manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769991
[15:03] <seb128> k, unsure how that got nominated but I think it shouldn't at this point
[15:04] <seb128> I'm deleting the xenial/bionic targets and asking that guy to follow the process (he needs to provides details anyway)
[15:04] <seb128> and the odrs one is same as cosmic, for Robert
[15:04] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/1769991/+activity that guy?
[15:04] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1769991 in network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Bionic) "[16.04] Unable to import OpenVPN configuration into Network Manager" [Undecided,New]
[15:04] <Laney> :>
[15:04] <seb128> yes
[15:04] <seb128> does anyone know him?
[15:04] <didrocks> nope
[15:04] <Laney> if you mean teward, he's an ubuntu-dev
[15:05] <Laney> however, that's not the guy I'm referringn to
[15:05] <Laney> (scroll down to "bug task added")
[15:05] <Trevinho> nope too
[15:05] <seb128> lol
[15:05] <seb128> I did the xenial one
[15:05] <seb128> not bionic :p
[15:05] <Laney> :D
[15:05] <seb128> aaaanyway
[15:05] <seb128> :)
[15:05] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
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[15:06] <seb128> Laney, your turn!
[15:06] <Laney> ok
[15:06] <Laney>  glib2.0 (2.59.2-2 to 2.59.3-1) in proposed for 5 days
[15:06] <Laney> give me a card for that, I don't think Jeremy is going to take it
[15:06] <Laney>  gnome-software (3.30.6-2ubuntu2 to 3.31.2-0ubuntu1) in proposed for 4 days
[15:06] <Laney> two things
[15:06] <Laney>  Unsatisfiable depends:
[15:06] <Laney>     libxmlb1: amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
[15:06] <Laney> that's an MIR https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxmlb/+bug/1814997
[15:07] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1814997 in libxmlb (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxmlb" [Undecided,Triaged]
[15:07] <Laney> not sure if we want to get that raised up or not
[15:07] <Laney> Blocked by bug: 1817223
[15:07] <ubot5> bug 1817223 in libxmlb (Ubuntu) "[disco-proposed] The list of applications in Ubuntu Software is empty" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817223
[15:07] <Laney> imho that should be nominated
[15:07] <Laney> and tracked that way
[15:07] <didrocks> (MIR is pending security)
[15:07] <seb128> we should raise it up/ask security, it blocks also the new fwupd
[15:07] <seb128> +1, let's do that
[15:08]  * didrocks agrees
[15:08] <Laney> cool
[15:09] <Laney> and the bug, nominate/assign to robert?
[15:09] <Laney> he's been working on it, but for tracking
[15:10] <seb128> yes, I do that
[15:10] <Laney> thx
[15:10] <Laney>  gvfs blocking glibc (2.28-0ubuntu1 to 2.29-0ubuntu1) for 4 days
[15:10] <Laney>     Regressions
[15:10] <Laney>         gvfs/1.39.91-1: amd64 (log, history), s390x (log, history)
[15:10] <Laney> jbicha uploaded a new one, but http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/gvfs/disco/amd64 for that looks bad
[15:10] <Laney> card it
[15:11] <Laney>  cairo (1.16.0-2 to 1.16.0-3) in proposed for 3 days
[15:11] <Laney>     Regressions
[15:11] <Laney>         gnome-shell-pomodoro/0.14.0-1: amd64 (log, history), arm64 (log, history), armhf (log, history), i386 (log, history), ppc64el (log, history)
[15:11] <Laney> card that too, looks like something valaish
[15:11] <Laney> I didn't look at the ones that are greyed out
[15:11] <Laney> so, end
[15:11] <seb128> k
[15:12] <seb128> do we kno what's the status of the gnome-shell transition?
[15:12] <Laney> going to have to remove some extensions to proposed
[15:12] <seb128> do we demote extensions to proposed, if so who is working on getting the list? jbicha?
[15:12] <Laney> jeremy did some stuff on his status
[15:12] <Laney> but it can't go in until glibc is done anyway
[15:13] <seb128> right
[15:13] <seb128> I'm looking at poppler which I started (for the record)
[15:13] <andyrock> glibc is already fixed upstream right?
[15:13] <Laney> dunno, not our team
[15:13] <Laney> so I'm not tracking it ;-)
[15:13] <Laney> they were mentioning it a bit on release though so I know it's being worked on
[15:13] <seb128> andyrock, glib you mean? glibc is libc6 and that has a bunch of autopkgtest issues
[15:14] <seb128> but that's for foundations to sort out
[15:14] <seb128> #topic aob
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[15:14] <seb128> other topics?
[15:14] <andyrock> oh missed the c :P
[15:14] <seb128> reminder we are in feature freeze, so updates including features need a ffe
[15:14] <seb128> also if you had a feature that you wanted to land and missed the line please let me know
[15:15] <Laney> so it can be DENIED
[15:15] <andyrock> ahahaha
[15:15] <Trevinho> Iano the terrible
[15:15] <Trevinho> Ianus*
[15:15] <seb128> :)
[15:15] <seb128> reading Jeremy's post again
[15:16] <seb128> Laney, trevinho, he mentioned that gnome-shell needs the new g-s-d probably for keybinding to work, did we lock those together through propers packaging tweaks?
[15:16] <seb128> (I could check myself, sorry for being lazy)
[15:17] <andyrock> I confirm that it requires the new g-s-d
[15:17] <Trevinho> seb128: hmhmg... There was no dep change. But not in the released one
[15:17] <Trevinho> it's for next one
[15:17] <seb128> k
[15:17] <seb128> seems all
[15:17] <Trevinho> andyrock: maybe send upstream meson change too
[15:17] <seb128> no other topic?
[15:18] <seb128> k, seems not, let's call it a wrap, the meeting was long enough with a busy list of rls bugs (welcome into post-ff time ;)
[15:18] <didrocks> nothing for me
[15:18] <seb128> thx desktopers!
[15:18] <didrocks> thx!
[15:18] <seb128> #endmeeting
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[15:18] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 26 15:18:32 2019 UTC.
[15:18] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-02-26-14.30.moin.txt
[15:18] <oSoMoN> thanks
[15:18] <seb128> oh also, I think we should change slightly the rls reviews
[15:18] <andyrock> thx!
[15:18] <Trevinho> thanks
[15:19] <seb128> have people do +1/0/-1 votes maybe
[15:19] <seb128> often the chair sit down there waiting on someone to maybe comment
[15:19] <seb128> but that doesn't happen
[15:19] <seb128> and we all sit down looking at the screen and waiting for a minute
[15:21] <oSoMoN> I feel that for most of those bugs I don't have a deep understanding of the problem, at least not without spending a few minutes reading the description and comments
[15:22] <seb128> then it's a =0 :)
[15:22] <oSoMoN> maybe I should reserve some time before the meeting to go through the rls bugs and read them?
[15:23] <seb128> or we should perhaps ask people to read the bugs before the meeting
[15:23] <seb128> yeah, that's an option
[15:23] <Laney> not sure it's right that this should be a voting thing
[15:23] <Laney> imho
[15:23] <oSoMoN> not a bad thing imo, that would give the entire team a better common view of what's incoming
[15:24] <seb128> let's have a proper discussion at another time then
[15:24] <seb128> but yeah, maybe it shouldn't be a voting
[15:25] <seb128> I just feel like we didn't find a smooth process and we are wasting a part of the meeting waiting for people to comment or not which is suboptimal
[15:25] <Laney> my idea before was to have a bug master
[15:25] <seb128> right
[15:26] <Laney> anyway, worth thinking about, it's one of the less smooth parts for sure
[15:27] <Trevinho> would need something interactive.. like a web page, quick voting with countdown... :-)
[15:36] <andyrock> what's the password required to enter in a failed autopkgtest console?
[15:36] <Laney> ubuntu
[15:37] <Laney> are you taking glib?
[15:37] <andyrock> nope
[15:37] <andyrock> tracker
[15:38] <Laney> k good
[15:38] <Laney> seb128: are you making the cards for proposed stuff or?
[15:38] <andyrock> let me know if you need help with glib
[15:39] <seb128> Laney, yes, sorry I didn't want to get too sidetracked during the meeting so I put that in my gedit, about to get back to it
[15:39] <Laney> np, just checking
[15:40] <andyrock> "ubuntu" does not work
[15:42] <seb128> it should :/
[15:43] <Laney> ubuntu/ubuntu
[15:52] <seb128> Laney, cards added
[15:52] <Laney> nice one
[15:57] <jbicha> gvfs feels to me like it does better when the infrastructure isn't so busy doing stuff like rebuilding all the nodejs rdeps
[15:57] <jbicha> it did pass for me yesterday in my PPA: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-disco-jbicha-dev/disco/amd64/g/gvfs/20190225_193205_31944@/log.gz
[15:58] <jbicha> please bump the gvfs/s390x hint
[16:00] <andyrock> Laney: ubuntu/ubuntu works
[16:01] <andyrock> not sure why it tells me to use systemd-coredump@localhost
[16:01] <andyrock> instead of ubuntu@localhost
[16:07] <Laney> that was some bug in autopkgtest
[16:12] <seb128> Laney, unsure how busy you are but slashd pinged me asking if we had debuging tip on bug #1817738
[16:12] <ubot5> bug 1817738 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Can't change virtual terminal when auto-login is enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817738
[16:12] <seb128> or if that rings any bell
[16:18] <Laney> tips: turn debugging on in gdm config and see if it's saying anything in the journal
[16:19] <seb128> slashd, ^
[16:20] <slashd> Laney, seb128 yeah I did that already, it didn't said much. I'll give it another try
[16:21] <seb128> slashd, btw we usually don't directly target bugs to a serie if they don't have an owner, our process is to rather tag rls-bb-incoming (or other -nn according to the serie) and we review those and then approve&assign/decline as we feel appropriate
[16:22] <slashd> seb128, noted for next time
[16:23] <seb128> thx
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[18:52]  * willcooke is off 
[18:52] <willcooke> night