[06:17] <didrocks> good morning
[07:01] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:04] <didrocks> salut seb128
[07:06] <seb128> lut didrocks, matinal aujourd'hui!
[07:07] <seb128> ça va ?
[07:13] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, oui, matinal :) je voudrais finir le truc Go aujourd'hui
[07:15] <didrocks> et toi ?
[07:22] <seb128> moi ça va aussi, c'est tjs le printemps aujourd'hui :)
[07:23] <didrocks> oui, 18°C aujourd'hui ici
[08:19] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:21] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:21] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, ça va?
[08:22] <didrocks> ça va, et toi oSoMoN ?
[08:23] <oSoMoN> mieux, le rhume commence à se dissiper, et il fait un temps de printemps ici, c’est agréable
[08:31] <duflu> Morning didrocks, seb128, oSoMoN, world
[08:32] <duflu> or part of world
[08:32] <oSoMoN> good afternoon duflu
[08:32] <oSoMoN> how are things?
[08:33] <duflu> oSoMoN, a spike of code reviews and conflicts to deal with. Not fun. I just have to give up and leave some of it for another day
[08:33] <duflu> You oSoMoN?
[08:33] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:34] <oSoMoN> duflu, not fun indeed :/ business as usual on my end, dealing with libreoffice and chromium build/test failures, I do a lot of that these days
[08:34] <didrocks> a lot of failures ? ;)
[08:34] <duflu> oSoMoN, you are our hero
[08:35] <duflu> or one of them, to be fair
[08:35] <oSoMoN> didrocks, few failures, but too often :)
[08:35] <didrocks> heh ;)
[08:36] <oSoMoN> duflu, allow me to return the compliment, your tireless work on performance fixes makes a huge difference
[08:36] <duflu> Some day they will
[08:37] <duflu> It's glacial movement
[08:54] <willcooke> morning all
[08:54] <jibel> Hi willcooke
[08:54] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[08:55] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:55] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke
[08:56] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[08:56] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN
[08:57]  * popey glares at jamesh for a blank store page https://snapcraft.io/portal-test
[08:57] <popey> (also, good morning)
[08:58] <popey> would be nice to link to the source of that snap from the store page :)
[08:58] <seb128> hey willcooke popey
[08:58] <oSoMoN> good morning popey
[08:59] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[08:59] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ?
[08:59] <oSoMoN> mieux, le rhume s’estompe, et toi?
[09:00] <seb128> un peu le rhume et qq bleus après une chute en vélo hier mais sinon ça va, c'est encore l'été aujourd'hui :)
[09:01] <Laney> ello
[09:01] <oSoMoN> I've found a place to work from, with good wifi and decent coffee, while I'm waiting for suspension to be changed on my car
[09:01] <oSoMoN> hullo Laney
[09:01] <duflu> Hallo Laney
[09:01] <oSoMoN> seb128, ouch
[09:02] <oSoMoN> autopkgtests all green for LO 6.2 \o/
[09:04] <seb128> well done!
[09:05] <duflu> Laney,  (back on the mutter proposal) I am trying to make maintenance easiest. So before switching to multiple patches to solve a single bug, would you accept one clean patch covering the diff of both? It seems that what I did for the same bug in disco
[09:06] <duflu> *that's
[09:06] <duflu> Also copying the patch directly from gitlab was an attempt to simplify maintenance :)
[09:07] <Laney> hi duflu
[09:08] <Laney> I think it's best if one Debian patch corresponds to one commit upstream, but if you don't like that then fine I guess
[09:09] <duflu> I feel that's going to create more confusion and headache here, which I assume is also your motivation
[09:09] <Laney> ...
[09:09] <duflu> Happy to make a patch that's tool-friendly though. One header per patch
[09:10] <Laney> I mean I'm happy to talk to you about why I'm saying this, but I'd rather you didn't accuse me of trying to make things confusing
[09:10] <seb128> hey Laney, how was the quiz?
[09:11] <Laney> hi seb128 (& oSoMoN too)
[09:11] <Laney> was good, we got 16/16 on the picture round
[09:11] <seb128> impresssive :)
[09:12] <Laney> it was local pubs
[09:12] <Laney> how are you?
[09:14] <seb128> I'm ok, fall with the bike yesterday at lunch and I did scratch my hand and hurt  bit my leg, nothing serious but I had to postpone the tennis match I was supposed to play yesterday evening, shame because the weather is really nice this week
[09:14] <Laney> :'(((((
[09:15] <seb128> well, it could have been worth so I'm not complaining (too much)
[09:17] <Laney> hope it doesn't bother you for too long
[09:17] <seb128> thx :)
[09:17] <didrocks> hey hey Laney
[09:18] <didrocks> seb128: urgh :/
[09:19] <willcooke> my woe: Boy #2 now has Chickenpox and was awake most of the night :(
[09:19] <seb128> :(
[09:20] <didrocks> how old is he already?
[09:20] <seb128> they have a sign about it at the childcare, some kids got ir recently
[09:20] <willcooke> 3.5
[09:20] <seb128> it
[09:20] <didrocks> quite good to have this at this age though
[09:20] <willcooke> yeah
[09:21] <didrocks> my brother had it at 16, wasn't fun
[09:21] <Laney> moin didrocks
[09:21] <willcooke> We could have bought a vaccination, but it was like 130quid, and my kids aren't worth that yet
[09:21] <jamesh> with the vaccine available, better to avoid it all together if possible
[09:21] <willcooke> ha
[09:21] <jamesh> (I didn't enjoy it when I was young)
[09:21] <didrocks> willcooke: heh, price is raising up with the investement (so time and food ;)) you put in
[09:21] <didrocks> I even didn't know there was a vaccine
[09:23] <willcooke> Piriton is working well
[09:25] <acheronuk> has anyone tried installing in German lately? all the proposed language combinations on keyboard selection page look very wrong
[09:26] <acheronuk> https://i.imgur.com/L2BEk1M.png
[09:29] <seb128> acheronuk, that's probably the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1817453
[09:31] <seb128> (retitled now and rls-dd-incoming it now
[09:31] <acheronuk> seb128: thanks. I had seen that bug listed, but it sounded like they meant the whole UI from reading just its title
[09:31] <acheronuk> clearly not
[09:32] <seb128> the screenshot indicated the same issue that what you describe, the title/initial description was confusing
[09:32]  * acheronuk nods
[09:32] <Laney> good to find installer bugs in a week that's not release week :>
[09:32] <seb128> :)
[09:32] <seb128> let's see now if it gets ignored until release week!
[09:33]  * Laney was just picturing fixing it in a room in Blue Fin
[09:34] <seb128> I can confirm the bug in a french install
[09:34] <seb128> Laney, your dream can still be true :)
[09:34] <willcooke> :D
[09:34] <didrocks> if that's biggie in french, it's going to be fixed before release week :p
[09:35] <seb128> hehe
[09:35] <Laney> new rule should be that English people don't have to fix anything that is to do with foreign stuff
[09:35] <Laney> BREXIT
[09:35] <seb128> roooh
[09:35]  * seb128 reboots, brb
[09:35] <Laney> also this was on the news today https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47334374
[09:36] <oSoMoN> Laney, but you're Irish, aren't you?
[09:38] <Laney> oSoMoN: yeah, best of both worlds - ignoring things I don't want to do while at the same time having an unlimited Guinness supply
[09:39] <acheronuk> didrocks: https://i.imgur.com/FA44sSo.png
[09:53] <seb128> duflu, you can't reproduce bug #1817546 with gnome-shell 3.31 from disco-proposed?
[09:54] <seb128> it's easy to trigger here
[09:54] <duflu> seb128, no I can't
[09:54] <seb128> you use 3.31?
[09:54] <seb128> that's in disco-proposed only atm, not disco
[09:54] <duflu> seb128, oh I was testing bionic. So I have no opinion. But it's also confirmed by others already
[09:55] <seb128> right, I was just wondering why you request an apport-collect log
[09:55] <seb128> the bug is confirmed/understood, the request is just going to annoy the reporter for no benefit from what I can see
[09:56] <seb128> (also often those apport-collect tend to not be very useful since that doesn't collect the journal errors & co)
[09:57] <duflu> seb128, that was to check for extensions which is usually the problem. So my request was justified. I do answer many more bugs than I have time to reproduce. I know in this case that was the wrong answer but for the greater good, this approach means many bugs get progressed which otherwise would never get an answer at all
[09:58] <seb128> duflu, ok, fair enough
[09:59] <seb128> I personnally disagree with the method but not enough to try to convince you, let's call it personnal preference
[09:59] <duflu> seb128, oh sorry, I did test 3.31 and it works here
[09:59] <duflu> !?
[10:00] <duflu> Sounds like maybe confined to 3.30
[10:00] <seb128> k, weird, mouse wheeling scroll on the sound indicator does lock the shell here with the sound icon stucked in the middle of the screen
[10:00] <seb128> no, it's a 3.31 regression
[10:00] <seb128> that's when reports started and the version I can confirm with
[10:00] <seb128> anyway, Marco has it on his backlog so it's going to be handled, don't worry about it
[10:02]  * duflu continues scrolling volume and can't make it freeze
[10:03] <seb128> well, then it doesn't impact every install
[10:03] <duflu> seb128, it's likely my dev environment shell isn't talking to the pulse daemon properly so I might expect a freeze to be in the call to Pulse
[10:04] <duflu> the GUI appears to work even when there is no connection
[10:08] <seb128> it's blocked in a
[10:08] <seb128> #6  0x00007fdeebb1373a in ca_context_cancel () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc
[10:08] <seb128>    anberra.so.0
[10:08] <seb128> <emit signal ??? on instance 0x7fdedc006510 [GCancellable]>0x7fd
[10:11] <duflu> <insert joke about our nation's capital>
[16:36]  * Laney sweeps up the tumbleweeds
[16:37] <willcooke> :)
[16:58] <clobrano> hey all o/
[16:59] <clobrano> soriano just accepted this MR https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/ShellExtensions/desktop-icons/merge_requests/101
[16:59] <clobrano> I wonder what's the process for accepting this change in 19.04. Is there something I can do? Like SRU?
[16:59] <gitbot> Shell extensions issue (Merge request) 101 in desktop-icons "Use GTK theme selection color for selected file-item and rubberband" [Merged]
[17:05] <Laney> clobrano: We'll get another upload of all the changes from desktop-icons git soon
[17:05] <Laney> thx for working on that!
[17:05] <Laney> (if they do a tagged release, would be nicer)
[17:09] <clobrano> Laney: great! About the tagged release, should I ping them?
[17:10] <Laney> clobrano: maybe ask if there's a plan, wouldn't want to rush them otherwise
[17:20] <seb128> clobrano, that's more of a bugfix so no need of special exception to land that in any case
[17:27] <clobrano> Laney, seb128: alright, I'll just ask :)
[19:03] <willcooke> night all