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palateWell I don't see it on my network00:03
palateI guess it doesn't have AMT00:04
palateWell I'll go by a keyboard tomorrow xD00:04
palateit is frustrating because I actually do have ssh access to it, but with a system I don't want00:05
palatesome kind of yocto for iot00:06
rboskr: I got it working. awesome.00:06
palateyes all the ports of the link given by tomreyn are closed, I guess it doesn't have amt00:07
leftyfbpalate: you should be looking up your NUC model number and AMT on google and how to possibly enable it00:08
leftyfbpalate: or you could look on craigslist or facebook market for someone giving away or selling a keyboard for next to nothing00:09
tomreynpalate: also if you're nmap'ing, use -PN, i'm not sure whether they respond to ping.00:09
palateleftyfb: yeah it's just that it's 1am here and I wanted to do that tonight :D00:09
palatetomreyn: I did00:09
leftyfbpalate: what model NUC is it?00:10
palateleftyfb: checking that, I guess I can find it from the serial number00:10
leftyfbmodel# not serial00:10
tomreynhttps://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005804/mini-pcs.html00:11
palatetomreyn: yes I was there :D00:12
palateboxnuc7i3bnk00:13
leftyfbdoesn't look like it has AMT00:14
palateleftyfb: nope :/00:14
palatewell, that's a reason for me to go to bed I guess00:15
palateThanks for the insights!!00:15
palateGood night :)00:15
sudoritz-2837anyone know a way to bypass a script on ssh login (i tried this () { :; };) but anytime it gives me error  (on some systems i can login) but it prompts me a login to a menu on working system but this one i cant im trying to bypass into shell...00:18
sudoritz-2837 start-text-view.sh: line 25: [: too many arguments00:18
sudoritz-2837i tried ssh user@pass 'echo test ; echo again'00:18
tomreynsudoritz-2837: you are trying to work around your own forkbomb?00:20
tomreynand please dont post such here00:20
OerHeks*if* that script is in your profile, maybe .. ssh -t hostname "bash --noprofile"00:20
OerHeksbut i guess you don't find a hack00:20
leftyfbsudoritz-2837: boot into recovery mode and remove the script from your profile00:27
sudoritz-2837trying to find a way to get off the auto menu script (theres a bug in a certain model aand i cant get to login) i can SCP but i cant even see .profile  or .bashrc not sure much i can do but i was trying to get this going ill probally contact the vendor (its a tripplite)00:33
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sudoritz-2837just trying to remotely reboot it or invoke a way to restart the service00:34
leftyfbsudoritz-2837: what does this have to do with ubuntu?00:34
leftyfbsudoritz-2837: contact Tripplite for help with their products. They do not run Ubuntu.00:35
black_13for some reason when i try to write to .ssh  using ssh-keygen its written to the root .ssh00:41
pragmaticenigmablack_13: Are you running ssk-keygen with sudo?00:42
TabMasherHi!  I need some recommendations for image hosting to post links for screen shots please.01:27
OerHeksimgur.com is nice01:28
miceikenMy PC froze completely and I had to do a hard reboot. Is there any way to figure out what was the cause? It happens quite often.01:44
OerHeksmiceiken, if it happens at random times, do a memtest86 run01:44
miceikenOerHeks, it's a laptop with quite shitty specs, and froze completely isnt true. It had I/O delay of about 45+ secs (and loss)01:45
OerHeksmaybe put a lightweight desktop on it, like mate/xubuntu?01:47
OerHeksbut hard freeze is unusual01:47
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miceikenOerHeks, yeah, I read something about it might being apparmor constantly blocking01:48
miceikenbut I lost the link01:48
slingamni'm getting a weird nginx-related error from apt-get on ubuntu 18.04 server: https://gist.github.com/slingamn/5ba0882a51a7490d6e07c90f7c8cd4c201:53
OerHeksyou want to remove a standard package.. libx11-6?01:54
tomreynmiceiken: what was on the logs? dmesg?01:54
slingamnit's a server01:54
slingamnis libx11-6 actually a dependency of nginx? in that case, it can't be uninstalled, but this message is very counterintuitive01:56
OerHeksi think it is a standard desktop package01:57
OerHeks!info libx11-601:57
ubottulibx11-6 (source: libx11): X11 client-side library. In component main, is standard. Version 2:1.6.4-3ubuntu0.2 (bionic), package size 577 kB, installed size 1422 kB01:57
tomreynslingamn: post the output of:  sudo /bin/true; nc termbin.com 9999 < <( cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline /etc/os-release; sudo apt-get update -y 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -fsy install 2>&1; )01:57
tomreynhmm this doesn't actually work, takes too long.02:01
tomreynso just this:  sudo /bin/true; nc termbin.com 9999 < <( cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline /etc/os-release; sudo apt-get update -y 2>&1 )02:01
slingamni don't think the kernel version or command-line parameters are relevant; apt-get update -y doesn't do much of interest; apt-get dist-upgrade -y finds nothing to be done02:03
tomreynwhich ubuntu version is it then?02:04
slingamnoh yeah sorry, this is 18.04.202:04
tomreynamd64?02:04
slingamnyeah02:04
tomreynand apt-cache policy reports what?02:05
tomreyni'd be interested in which 3rd party repos you use02:05
tomreynor whether there are warnings or errors there or on the "apt-get update" output02:05
slingamnno warnings or errors, but this is an ovh machine so it could very well be an issue with one of their mirrors: https://gist.github.com/slingamn/0cece3c86342497a4045bd6c97dff2c002:06
slingamn(that's apt-cache policy)02:06
slingamnnothing of interest from apt-get update or apt-get dist-upgrade02:06
tomreyndoes "ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported" list something in the "No longer downloadable:" section?02:08
slingamngood suggestion, it does02:08
slingamnquite a lot of stuff actually02:08
slingamnlibapt-inst1.7 libapt-pkg4.16 libbind9-90 libdns-export100 libdns100 libgnutls-deb0-28 libirs-export91 libisc-export95 libisc95 libisccc90 libisccfg-export90 libisccfg90 liblwres90 libprocps3 libxtables1002:09
tomreynpackages from ubuntu 14.0402:09
slingamnhilarious02:09
tomreynlooks like your upgrade wasnt clean02:09
* slingamn removes02:09
slingamnthanks02:09
tomreynhttps://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages may help identify more such remainders02:10
tomreynslingamn: did you install this system as 14.04 initially, or was this a "fresh " 18.04 installation?02:11
tomreynlike an image provided by the host02:11
slingamnlooks like libx11-6 is a hard dependency of nginx on 18.0402:11
slingamni have a machine without it, and `apt-get install nginx --no-install-recommends` attempts to install libx11-6 as well02:12
tomreynyou probably want nginx-light or -core only02:12
slingamniiiiinteresting02:12
tomreynnginx is a lot more than just a web server02:12
tomreynit's a bit like the 90ies AOL app, or netscape communicator ;-)02:13
tomreynthis said, installing just libx11-6 wont hurt.02:22
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slingamnyeah i ended up just going with the default (i think that's nginx-core), which pulls in a few x11-related libraries02:34
slingamnthanks02:34
slingamni guess that error message is some weird edge case in metapackages02:34
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cliff1245Any suggestions for a free antivirus software?02:42
CyberGhost78cliff1245, you don't need that with linux02:44
psichascliff1245, clamwin02:45
psichascliff1245, clamav lol02:45
psichasCyberGhost78, if you think that for linux doesn't antivirus... you say like if you live by the sea, you dont need wash ... :)02:47
CyberGhost78well you really don't02:47
CyberGhost78but if it helps you sleep at night02:47
CyberGhost78then go ahead02:47
psichasim talking not apout virus for linux... im talking about dirty files02:47
cliff1245Thanks, going with clamav.02:48
lhvfHi, I'm trying to talk with @jbicha on #ubuntu-gnome, but there nobody is responding at the moment.02:48
CyberGhost78oic psichas my bad02:48
psichasclamav doesn't have real protection it just scanne... im using it in windows too...02:48
psichasbest antivirus is your brain cliff124502:49
lhvfIs there anyway to accelerate the Debian 10 development, for Buster include GNOME 3.32, which will have Desktop icons on GNOME Shell02:49
lhvf?02:49
psichasrule number one dont trust anyone...02:49
psichascliff1245,02:49
DeihmosWhat’s a good backup tool Incase things get screwed up and I need to restore02:51
cliff1245psichas: thanks, I don't have a brain, unfortunately.02:51
psichascliff1245, thats ok, just be patieant and you will be smart :)02:52
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psichasmy hobby is create malware... so i know that antivirus can't always protect you from malware... but you can safe your pc if you are smart... dont trust anyone... unless opensource programs... :) cl02:54
psichascliff1245,02:54
leftyfb!ot | psichas02:55
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cliff1245psichas: Why are opensource programs safer?02:56
leftyfbcliff1245: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic02:56
psichasbecause... you can't hide any malware code02:57
psichascliff1245,02:57
leftyfbpsichas: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic02:57
cliff1245leftyfb: Sorry.02:57
UbuntuUserHey, I got a weird and ugly problem ... I can't login on TTY 1 and co. As soon as I confirm my username (enter key, CTRL + J or CTRL + M) it loops on seeing enter presses (it shows the password prompt but almost immediatly sees another enter press) and loops until 5 attempts are over.03:11
hydra_Hello!03:12
UbuntuUserAnd my GUI is dead as well. Unity 7 shows my wallpaper and crashes, Ubuntu Gnome Shell seems to time out and crash, Gnome Shell on Wayland doesn't work because nvidia ...03:12
UbuntuUserGuess I have to fix it using a live system? -.-03:13
tomreynUbuntuUser: boot to emergency, enable networking, start the root shell, install the pending updates03:13
tomreynUbuntuUser: also, which ubuntu version is this actually?03:14
UbuntuUser18.0403:15
tomreynok03:15
shachafWhat is the canonical way to use optical media when not using GNOME or whatever the Ubuntu desktop thing is nowadays?03:16
UbuntuUserThanks tomreyn, I'll try that and in the meantime boot my crappy netbook to join the IRC again ...03:18
UbuntuUserHmm, got into the rescue mode, internet connection works but it can't resolve hostnames03:30
tomreynUbuntuUser: rm /etc/resolv.conf; echo nameserver 1.1.1.1 > /etc/resolv.conf;03:31
tomreynshould work then03:31
spestovhow do I disable gdm and boot into console mode?03:31
tomreynUbuntuUser: be sure to rm /etc/resolv.conf when we're done03:32
UbuntuUserAh, right, no nameserver was set m(03:33
spestovI did 'service gdm stop' and killall Xorg but there's no getty running on the console03:33
tomreynspestov: what's the overall goal there, and which uubntu version is this?03:34
spestov18.04. I just don't want a gui running03:34
spestovits kind of buggy inside virtualbox03:35
spestovand I have no use for it anyway03:35
tomreynspestov: i see. normally you'd just press ctrl-alt-f3..12 to switch to a different tty. but i assume you can't do this in virtualbox?03:35
tomreynubuntu 18.04.2 works fine for me in virtualbox btw.03:36
tomreynincluding gnome-shell03:36
spestovwhich version of virtualbox?03:36
tomreyn6.0.403:37
UbuntuUserYay, I have my desktop back ...03:44
UbuntuUserThanks ^^03:44
spestovtomreyn: I found my answer here -- https://askubuntu.com/questions/859630/how-to-start-ubuntu-in-console-mode03:45
spestova lot has changed since I last used linux seriously, with systemd and all03:45
spestovback in the day most inits were set up so that runlevel 3 was multiuser with no X1103:46
UbuntuUserBut that weird TTY login problem still remains. Any ideas what that could be? I've never seen this before.03:50
lunatikoshi ! anyone successfully use xbox gamepad with kodi installed with software ?03:55
tomreynspestov: yes, systemd changed things a lot. glad you worked it out.03:55
tomreynUbuntuUser: which kernel version are oyu running now? cat /proc/version03:56
tomreynthere was a version which had this issue, but it was since replaced by a newer update.03:57
UbuntuUser4.15.0-4503:57
tomreynUbuntuUser: that's not the output of: cat /proc/version04:00
tomreynUbuntuUser: you can do this if it's less typing: cat /proc/version | nc termbin.com 999904:01
tomreynand then tell me the url it returns04:01
UbuntuUser2Linux version 4.15.0-45-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-031) (gcc version 7.3.0 (Ubuntu 7.3.0-16ubuntu3)) #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 29 16:28:13 UTC 201904:02
tomreynhmm yeah thats the latest indeed04:02
tomreynthanks04:02
tomreynand anything else is fully patched?04:03
UbuntuUser2According to apt, yes.04:03
tomreynhmm let me dig up this bug report again04:04
UbuntuUser2Thanks :)04:04
UbuntuUser2I tried googling around but couldn’t find anything :/04:04
tomreynhmm i thought i had subscribed to it but apparently not04:09
UbuntuUser2Sadly my Google-Fu wasn't good enough to find something related.04:10
UbuntuUser2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/181534204:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1813873 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "duplicate for #1815342 Userspace break as a result of missing patch backport" [High,Fix committed]04:13
tomreynUbuntuUser2: wohoo, you got it04:14
UbuntuUser2> This problem is also present with linux-image-4.15.0-45.04:14
UbuntuUser2So, I guess I just wait for an update.04:14
akitHi04:14
tomreynright, it's "Fix committed", but it's still not in bionic04:15
tomreyni don't know why, need to read up on it.04:15
akitgo PUBG Mobile04:15
tomreynUbuntuUser2: but this just means you should do as suggested previously, enable proposed and get the kernel from there04:15
jnewttrying to use an old laptop, boot stuck at [ OK ] Started Hold until boot process finishes up.  All messages say [ OK ] above that one.  What can I try?04:15
tomreyn!ot | akit04:15
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tomreyn!proposed | UbuntuUser204:16
ubottuUbuntuUser2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.04:16
tomreynUbuntuUser2: this should explain how to enable "bionic-proposed"04:16
tomreynjnewt: which ubuntu version are oyu running on it?04:17
UbuntuUser2Since I now know how to fix my system using the recovery mode I can also just wait for the kernel patch to be rolled out ;) Thank you, have a nice day. :)04:17
UbuntuUser2Eh, what just happened. I quit irssi and my Lubuntu netbook shut down. haha04:18
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tomreynUbuntuUser2: :-/04:19
tomreynas in instant power off?04:19
[RobDude]Can anyone help me with a /etc/fstab issue?  I'm trying to get my system to 'automount' both a harddrive partition and a network (nas) location.  I've added the lines to my /etc/fstab file and when I run 'sudo mount -a' both work.  However, when I reboot, only the partition is mounted correctly, the NAS doesn't appear.  File is at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3s3Mmq4mvh/04:19
UbuntuUser2Nope, for a split second a window, probably the shutdown menu, popped up :D04:20
jnewttomreyn  i dont remember what is on it, at least a few months if not a year since ive used it04:21
tomreynjnewt: reboot to recovery, enable networking, tell whether this succeded without errors, then enter the root shell04:23
tomreyn!recovery | jnewt04:23
ubottujnewt: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode04:23
tomreyn[RobDude]: whats your ubuntu version?04:24
[RobDude]18.0404:24
tomreyn[RobDude]: do you have an error about it in your journal?04:26
tomreyni.e. does this show anything about it?  journalctl -b -p404:26
[RobDude]Thanks - I'm afraid I'm still quite new to Ubuntu and Linux in general.  Let me take a look.04:27
jnewtok, version is 18.04.1 LTS04:27
[RobDude]Oh this great - thank you.  Yes the mounting failed.  It looks like "media-nas.mount: failed with result 'exit-code'" and then it says "Dependency failed for Remote File Systems"04:30
jnewti chose root from the menu and am stuck at Started Stop ureadaheaddata collection04:32
tomreyn[RobDude]: add ,x-systemd.automount to the end of the "<options>" column on the nas mount ( line 3 of https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3s3Mmq4mvh/ )04:32
tomreynjnewt: so this was after you enabled networking?04:33
tomreynUbuntuUser2: well i guess it's all fine then, it seems to have shut down gracefully.04:35
jnewtnm,04:35
jnewtbunch of errors when enabling networking.04:36
UbuntuUser2Yeah, it did. Was just weird to see it shut down after `/quit`. I’ll just assume that it somehow registered a touch of the power button :^)04:36
jnewtits broken04:37
tomreynjnewt: "bunch of errors" and "it's broken" don't enable me to support you, i'm afraid. i suspect your / file system has run full.04:37
tomreynjnewt: there is an option on the recovery menu to clean up things. i forgot the exact name, but give this a try.04:38
[RobDude]tomreyn:  thank you so much.  That worked amazingly well.04:38
tomreynjnewt: that is, after a reboot04:38
tomreyn[RobDude]: very well.04:39
UbuntuUser2Btw. are there statistics on how many Ubuntu desktops still use Unity 7? For me the Gnome Shell is “unusable”. Even after fiddling around with it for days and customizing it’s just unpleasant to use. Went back to Unity 7 real quick, eh.04:39
tomreyn[RobDude]: is your system fully patched? this is a rather old bug, i had hoped this to no longer affect ubuntu 18.04.204:40
tomreynUbuntuUser2: i don't have any, and wouldn't know how to get them, i'm afraid.04:40
jnewttomreyn, hard on phone.  https://drive.google.com/file/d/16EVhXgK0Qmk8GTiQ2VPJepMLf17snJne/view?usp=drivesdk  will rebbot for clean,  can you see link?04:41
tomreynUbuntuUser2: there is https://popcon.ubuntu.com/ but last time i looked at it the data was outdated. and i think it is also being replaced by ubuntu's new telemetry04:42
tomreynjnewt: yes, i can look at https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XK4TbFqFGncs4bSur8YtZ5256_dgSunksbZsSebA4vW5A5UUOyv-TJ8itbWeDngU4lVXKzdUUNof1g04:43
UbuntuUser2I’m just glad that I could reset Unity / compiz in the rescue mode.04:44
tomreynjnewt: so all of these failed services are network related. that's less of an issue if the rest works fine.04:44
UbuntuUser2My system is a root on ZFS system, so using a live system always means taking extra steps. :x04:44
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jnewtclean fails with errors about full disk.04:45
tomreynjnewt: all but two, that is. the second message is about the system failing to write logs to the disk. this can be if / is mounted read-only, which is by default during early boot.04:45
devnullicuzhello e1, can someone tell me if there is a way to interface with an old ipod from within ubuntu (vanilla) 18.0404:46
devnullicuzjust want to add songs to the thing for my dad04:46
tomreynoh, okay, so i guess i was right then, your / has run full. if you reboot and start the root console without starting networking first, what happens then?04:46
tomreynjnewt: ^04:46
devnullicuzwindows is doing my head in for the last five minutes of spazzing out; lol it been a long time since i had to fire up a windows machine and im so glad i switched04:47
devnullicuzfound a fix with google, so no need to help =)04:49
BoyLover420hello fellas... i would like to acquire the knowledge necessary to implement the operating system known as Ubuntu onto my personal computer. My mother has strongly advised me to install said Operating System, rather than use Windows, or as she calls it, Windoze. Haha very Funny joke :) So I am not very good with Personal Computers pretty much... an04:51
BoyLover420d... well... my MOther recently took a trip to Italy so I cannot get in touch with her right now unfortunately... Was thinking I could Get some help in this Channel?04:51
tomreynBoyLover420: yes, we do freelance ubuntu support here04:52
bobdobbsIn the libreoffice spreadsheet application, how do I export a single tab to it's own csv file?04:53
tomreynBoyLover420: oops i meant to say we do volunteer support here04:53
jnewttomreyn.  some depend and time errors, thens stop unreadahead data collection.  hit enter gets me a prompt04:53
tomreynjnewt: good! now does "df -h /" confirm it's 100% full?04:53
tomreyndf = disk free04:54
tomreynbobdobbs: i was thinking that's what the save as or export option does, does it save one file per tab then?04:54
jnewttomreyn yes it does04:55
tomreynjnewt: type this: does it give the same output when you do "df -h /boot" ?04:56
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jnewtyes04:56
tomreynwhat'S the output of :   ls -1 /boot/initrd.img* |wc -l04:57
tomreynthe first argument to 'ls' is a ONE04:58
jnewt204:58
tomreynthe first to wc is an L04:58
bobdobbstomreyn: as far as I can figure out 'save' saves the entire document. 'export' saves the document in another format, like html, png or pdf.04:58
jnewtoh04:58
tomreynjnewt: actually if you did ls with an L thats fine, too04:58
jnewt204:58
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tomreynjnewt: can you do this: apt-cache clean04:59
tomreynany errors?04:59
tomreynbobdobbs: hmm, ok. le tme try quickly05:00
jnewtinvalid operation clean05:00
bobdobbsk05:00
UbuntuUser2Thanks again, bye.05:02
tomreynjnewt: sorry it's: apt-get clean05:03
tomreynbobdobbs: so it's file -> save a copy -> navigate to where to save and type a filename with .csv extension05:04
tomreynbobdobbs: in the very end it will tell you that it only saved the currently active sheet05:04
tomreynwhich is indeed what it does.05:05
jnewtro file system errors.   thought it asked to make rw though!05:05
jnewtok, remounted and ran05:07
tomreynso you remounted rw?05:08
jnewtyeah05:09
jnewtand it ran the clean, but df still showa 100%05:09
tomreynjnewt: anything here?   ls /var/crash05:11
jnewtnope05:12
bobdobbstomreyn: thank you :)05:12
tomreynjnewt: this finds files larger than 100 MB on / (but don't just delete them!):  find / -xdev -type f -size +100M05:13
tomreynbobdobbs: you're welcome!05:14
tomreynbobdobbs: does this find things you know should not be installed?05:15
tomreynoops not you ;-)05:15
tomreynjnewt: does this find things you know should not be installed?05:15
jnewttomreyn, two 3rd party installer scripts show up, one in  trash, other in. cache05:18
tomreynjnewt: what's the output of:   journalctl --disk-usage05:18
jnewtremoved both, now at 92%05:20
tomreynjnewt: how much is this in MB?05:20
tomreynor GB05:20
jnewttruncated ignoring file on that journal05:20
jnewt10G05:21
tomreynjnewt: 10G for the journal thing?05:21
jnewtdisk is 10G.  files were 400+M05:22
jnewtjournal 664.3M05:22
tomreynoh you only have 10 GB for a desktop ubuntu installation?05:22
tomreynthat's not really enough, i guess, unless you run basically nothing.05:23
tomreynfor a simple server it could be enough05:23
jnewtsharing disk with old xp install i have for legacy software, can maybe reallocate some05:24
jnewtthink i can boot now with 92%?05:25
tomreynXP is end of life, you shouldn't run this on any networked system nowadays.05:25
tomreynyou can convert it into a VM running under ubuntu.05:25
tomreynyes, you should be able to reboot05:26
tomreynbut this issue will reoccur, probably as soon as you install the pending updates05:26
tomreynyou, or the system itself, automatically, that is05:27
tomreynjnewt: did you read the above?05:33
jnewtyes05:33
tomreyngood, glad i could help.05:33
jnewtlooking at some repartitioning first, then a vbox install and figure out how to move the xp to vbox05:34
jnewti dont like that i cant boot if the disk is fulll.  seems like that should not be allowed to happen05:36
jnewtthanks btw.  i probably would have wiped it out and tried again05:37
tomreynit wont happen if you give your root partition sufficient space, and put your /home on a separate file system05:37
jnewtwhat is the min sufficient space?05:38
tomreynin the end it dpeends on the amount of software you install, and how large that is. but somewhere between 15 and 20 is probably fine05:39
tomreyn25-30 GB if you have a lot of large applications installed, i guess05:39
tomreynthese numbers do not include /home05:40
devnullbecausecan anyone give me a hand to get some music onto an old ipod (first version released) ive tried rhythembox not having anyluck dragging and dropping from file browser(external usb) to ipod(rhythombox)05:42
devnullbecausehave reset pc numerous times05:42
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MilkmanDanAnyone have an account on Ubuntuforums and can pastebin a file for me please?05:50
MilkmanDanhttps://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?s=5cd0c6e04a427e2a8088d19666a0c3e3&attachmentid=186077&d=130015431305:50
wyseguyif i want 10 people to be able to connect to a server running ubuntu and have a desktop experience would i just install ubuntu desktop and create 10 different user accounts?05:51
wyseguyand they could all log in at the same time?05:51
MilkmanDanI don't want to make an account I'll only use once just to look at a 621 byte file....05:51
MilkmanDanwyseguy: Log in how?  Via their own keyboard/mouse/monitor?05:52
wyseguyMilkmanDan yes06:00
wyseguythey have dell wyse thin clients, not sure if those can remote into a ubuntu server06:00
MilkmanDanOh, hah, WYSE guy...06:01
devnullbecause can anyone give me a hand to get some music onto an old ipod from inside ubuntu 18.04 please06:01
MilkmanDanOk, now I get it.06:01
MilkmanDanYou need to figure out what those are capable of.  If they can do VNC you're golden.06:01
MilkmanDanI imagine they can do RDP and I know Linux client support is trivial, but I've never looked into serving it.06:02
MilkmanDanThere's a thing called the Linux Terminal Server Project that might have info on Wyse thin clients.06:02
lotuspsychjedevnullbecause: clementine can sync with ipods06:04
lotuspsychje!ipod | devnullbecause see also06:04
ubottudevnullbecause see also: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod06:04
wyseguyMilkmanDan thanks, ill look that up06:13
wyseguynot sure about vpn, I know these are the windows embeded thin clients, i have others that have thinos on them too06:14
wyseguyi mean vnc not vpn06:15
wyseguyah found it ltsp06:16
md_5tomreyn lol beat me to it06:21
tomreynmd_5: like a mother giving birth, i got those waves lately, and the intervals are getting shorter. but i don't want to see the child.06:23
md_5poetic06:24
Sefid_parHello. I need information about smtp configurations. I feel don't understand smtp!06:28
yvyzIs it an ubuntu problem?06:31
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LEYEVA_heluuu07:25
LEYEVA_anyone here to talk with?07:25
rockstar_hi, my ubuntu started to freeze often and its quite random. Can someone help me?07:31
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B1ack0phi07:41
B1ack0pcan somebody advise me where can i find this wallpaper in suru icon theme? https://snwh.org/suru07:42
B1ack0pminimal space theme07:42
B1ack0psorry minimal space wallpaper07:42
B1ack0pok found it07:45
Tankburngood day07:50
k_szehi guys07:51
B1ack0phi dudes07:51
k_szeFirefox is being stupid and making my machine unresponsive (it seems to be swapping heavily and I can't even make the mouse cursor move). What can I do to kill Firefox quickly? I'm hesitant to force shutdown the computer because I have full disk encryption.07:52
k_szeThe situation is so bad that I can't even get the TTY by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F307:54
melfydisable swap and let it crash itself lol07:55
melfyhow much ram you have?07:55
k_szeyes, but how do I disable swap when the desktop doesn't respond and I can't even get to the text terminal?07:55
k_szeIs there a shortcut with high priority that will bring every user space process to a halt?07:56
k_szeI mean keyboard combo.07:56
melfycan make a shortcut to run firefox under nice so it's deprioritized07:56
ducasse!reisub | k_sze07:56
ubottuk_sze: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key07:56
k_szeducasse: thanks!07:58
k_szeducasse: how long am I supposed to have to wait between keypresses?08:02
ducassek_sze: a second or two, maybe08:03
Pavel_Vasilevhello!08:04
k_szeseems to work! Thanks!08:04
ducassek_sze: yw :)08:05
ducasse!pm | Pavel_Vasilev08:05
ubottuPavel_Vasilev: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.08:05
melfyfeel like thats gonna end up on a post it on his screen08:05
knightlinghi08:17
badSophiahow can i install crome on ubuntu?08:20
WalterWhitebadSophia: chrome or crome?08:22
badSophiachrome 8)08:22
badSophiamy mistake08:22
knightlingyou can use chromium from the store08:23
ducassebadSophia: download the package from google and install it, or use chromium08:24
knightlingI think chromium is the better choise08:24
WalterWhiteChromium for the win,08:24
badSophiaah i don’t need to use apt or apt-get?08:24
WalterWhiteNo reason to cater to google unless you want more of your info and activity tracked.08:25
knightlingno you can go in the ubunutu-software store and serch for chromium08:25
badSophiathanks08:25
knightlingnp08:25
badSophiaanyway can i install no-ads on firefox?08:27
bruhbruhublock origin?08:27
badSophiano ads08:28
elias_abadSophia: What is that?08:28
bruhbruhwas just about to ask08:29
badSophiaoh08:29
badSophiaadblock08:29
badSophia8)08:30
bruhbruhyeah you can08:30
WalterWhiteadblock plus08:30
bruhbruhtype this in your url08:32
bruhbruhabout:addons08:33
badSophiaah thanks08:33
bruhbruhand search for "adblock"08:33
bruhbruhyou most likely need "adblock plus"08:33
badSophiathanks bruhbruh :)08:34
badSophiai installed adblock plus :)08:34
bruhbruhno probs08:38
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absenceafter a normal software update (apt-get upgrade), i just get a black screen after logging in from gdm. ubuntu 18.10, laptop with intel uhd 620. using an older kernel doesn't change things. how can i fix this?08:44
allureHey guys... trying to identify a network issue that started occurring a few weeks ago. Some of our users started complaining that they had no internet. Whenever I switched them to another ethernet port on the wall they would get internet back. But now a good number of those ports will not work and they won't get an IP. I get a perfect signal on the cable (I tested them with cable testers), so I think it is08:49
allureour DHCPd server acting up. I've been looking through the logs but I am not finding anything interesting. I am also using dhcpdump, but I have no idea what to look for in there.08:49
Ouyesallure, when you saying a good number, some of our user? give us a rough number.08:50
allureOuyes: around 10-12%08:51
allureabout... 8 users now08:51
allureeveryday there is one or two new cases08:51
Ouyesallure, well, what do you mean by no internet? no connection or no access to website?08:52
allureOuyes: they don't get an IP/DNS, so DHCP is not giving them anything08:52
allurebut it works for most people, that is where I am puzzled08:52
Ouyesallure, you think it is hardware or software?08:52
allureOuyes: I think it is software. We even have new switches and the problem persists...08:53
allurehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xBzCHbfYzg/08:53
allurehere are some logs for the dhcpd08:53
Ouyesallure, so dhcp server have enough address to assign?08:53
WalterWhiteallure: did you check to see what the network status is?  ie. IP, DNS, Gateway, of the clients having problems?08:53
allureOuyes: I imagine so... I will double check as I am not sure how many wireless connections we get08:54
allureWalterWhite: they get a 169 address only08:54
Ouyesallure, these users are using wireless? but you said switched them to another port?08:55
Ouyesallure, they get offline all of a sudden, or when they boot in and the host can not get a IP assigned by dhcp?08:56
allureOuyes: only devices connected to ethernet ports are having issues08:57
allureOuyes: when they reboot, they dont get a connection back08:58
allureOuyes: for laptops, it also happens when they arrive from another location and connect to their dock08:58
Ouyesallure, wireless device usually won't be able to keep a lot of clients at the same time for very long especially when you get a cheap one08:58
allureat least for laptops they can use wireless instead08:58
allureOuyes: I understand, but the issue only happens on ethernet ports08:58
alluredevices connected to ethernet08:59
Ouyesallure, I see, give me a few secs08:59
WalterWhiteallure: Have you considered setting static IP/DNS/Gateways for the hardlined clients, and bypassing DHCP altogether?08:59
WalterWhiteNot a solution, but a possible work around if nothing else.08:59
allureWalterWhite: yes, but as they are far away from my desk, I could not find an unused IP, so I have not tried that09:00
allureI guess I have to try it to be sure...09:00
WalterWhiteallure: ALL your local IP addresses are used?09:01
allureWalterWhite: that is what I am checking right now with fping, but it seems that is not the case09:01
WalterWhiteI mean, you check your router and they're all leased by DHCP?09:01
shresthhey,guys !!09:02
allureWalterWhite: I am checking /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases to see if they are all busy09:02
allurebut I dont think they are so far09:02
melfyallure: what switch you got?09:03
WalterWhiteallure: Is your problem a personal matter, or a commercial matter. (ie, this is happening at home, or it;s happening at work?)09:03
melfyits def work :P09:03
shresthUbuntu vs Elementary os ??09:04
WalterWhitelol, if it's work, and troubleshooting in IRC, you might want to look for another job soon.09:04
melfy^09:04
Ouyesallure, make sure the port these guys are using to  connect to other device is in full duplex.09:04
Ouyesallure, if it is always the same group of people gets forced off-line?09:05
OuyesWalterWhite, so IRC is not the place to fix problems at work?09:07
WalterWhiteOuyes: I'd say that if you're supposed to be a network admin, you should know your stuff already, yeah.09:09
allureOuyes: usually, yes, but I got two new since yesterday... same people09:10
allureOuyes: I will check if it is full duplex09:10
Ouyesallure, based on current information, I would imagine it is always the same group of people gets offline all of a sudden when accessing internet normally, I would say this group of people are connected to a switch and this switch connect to a router, so you need to check if both ports match duplex.09:11
melfyall modern switches have fallback full duplex or not09:13
allureOuyes: I will check that :)09:14
glitchdhaving an odd problem on a clean install of 18.04.2, when i switch to a tty i enter my login name, and it simultaneously enters a blank password. of course the password is rejected and i am unable to log in.09:19
tanaphor-worknin09:22
tanaphor-workoops09:22
allureOuyes: full duplex, also setting up a manual IP did not help09:24
allureOuyes: I am now having issues connecting to the switch, so it is now the first suspect09:25
alluresince about 20 people are on a conference room right now, I cannot restart the switch yet :/09:25
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WalterWhiteSo far, how is this an Ubuntu problem?09:27
allureWalterWhite: thank you for your help.09:27
allureI suspected it was dhcpd, that is why I came here for help09:27
allureand I am not sorry that now it seems it is not09:28
WalterWhiteallure: I see.09:28
allureIf you do not want to help, you can carry on with your life. Thank you for the help you gave so far.09:28
WalterWhiteAttempting to stay on topic is all.09:29
allureAlright... thank you.09:33
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allureOuyes: I think something else is serving dhcp. I stopped isc-dhcpd-server and people are still getting IPs somehow09:45
allureit is changing every 5 seconds. They say "I have an IP.... aaaaand... now I dont.... aaaaand... now I do" haha09:46
EriC^^commitment issues09:49
EriC^^sudo dns-therapy09:49
EriC^^j/k09:50
baakohi guys, just install 18.10 on dual boots on windows 10 lenovo thinkpad 52s. It keep crashing. freezes for hours10:01
WalterWhiteMore than one DHCPd on the network somewhere, serving IP addresses?10:01
baakois 18.10 not stable?10:02
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WalterWhitebaako: At which stage of your boot process does it "crash/freeze"?10:03
baakoWalterWhite, I log in okay. then when I click on an icon like firefox, it crashes10:04
baakothats as far as I can go with it10:04
WalterWhitebaako: Did you do a fresh install, or an upgrade to 18.10?10:05
baakoi just install in about 25 hours ago10:05
baakoI get about 2 clicks and it crashes10:06
WalterWhitebaako: So you installed ubuntu to the machine, for the very first time, to dual-boot with Win10?10:07
baakoWalterWhite, yep10:07
WalterWhitebaako: Does it freeze on other ubuntu apps, or just Firefox so far?10:08
B1ack0phi.10:11
B1ack0pwhen i check /usr/shared/applications folder i realised some of the applications are duplicated even triplicated10:11
B1ack0pwhy is that so and how can i get rid of duplicates?10:12
B1ack0phttps://imgur.com/a/Kl6cBXY10:12
B1ack0phttps://imgur.com/a/v2IHy9410:12
baako WalterWhite everything10:13
B1ack0pin first image you will see Archieve MAnager 2, Disk image writer is 2 , files 3 ,10:13
baakocant even get pass the first widget which asks u to help improve ubuntu but giving system report10:14
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ygk_12345hi all10:43
mikisidhi10:43
ygk_12345i have ubuntu 18 and installed apache2 on it. I cant access the custom html pages in the /var/ww/html pages outside of that server.10:44
ygk_12345i can access them from within the server though but not outside   of it10:44
ygk_12345any idea anyone ?10:45
ygk_12345i am seeing 404 not found10:48
antanozHi. Should I install the LibreOffice snap or Debian package? Which one is the best maintained one?10:48
ygk_12345but I can access the pages from within the server using wget but from the browser outside i can only access the default page not other html pages10:49
ygk_12345can anyone help me please10:49
antanozI see the LibreOffice snap is maintained by Canonical, which makes me think that the snap should be preferred...10:51
bazhang!snappy | antanoz10:52
ubottuantanoz: Ubuntu Core is a rendition of Ubuntu with transactional updates using "snappy". For discussion and support, please visit #snappy and see http://www.ubuntu.com/snappy/10:52
ammaro0salut10:52
ammaro0cav a?10:52
EriC^^!fr | ammaro010:53
ubottuammaro0: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.10:53
zeekhuge[m]Hi ! Is there a way I could make the 'root' un reachable even when the user has the physical machine with himself ?10:53
bazhangtry #snappy antanoz10:53
zeekhuge[m]and reachable only by me, say through a key, when I need it ?10:54
EriC^^zeekhuge[m]: you could give the user a normal account without sudo, but with physical access he can always get root by using grub kernel parameters and/or a live usb10:55
EriC^^zeekhuge[m]: most easily by using the recovery menu in grub, setting a root password should remove that option10:55
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EriC^^zeekhuge[m]: if you absolutely dont want root you could use disk encryption (luks) but then the user can't boot by himself without knowing the key for decryption, unless you feed it somehow, then he can know it depending on how much experience he has10:57
zeekhuge[m]EriC^^: Yeah. Thats the case actually. I want to prevent even through grub and live usb. How about making system un-bootable without a key. Something maybe we can do by encrypting the system ?10:57
zeekhuge[m]Yes !10:57
WalterWhiteVolume encryption perhaps?10:57
EriC^^zeekhuge[m]: i guess luks + you manually enter the key for him10:58
WalterWhiteSo grub and live USB can't be used.10:58
zeekhuge[m]So volume encryption works. But then, I would not want to manually enter the key each time. Can it be configured to ask a key from a system in local network and if the key is given, then boot up ?10:59
EriC^^also make sure the right stuff is being booted from the BIOS, since then the weak point would be putting a different boot and tricking the superuser to entering the key10:59
WalterWhite^^ That too.11:00
EriC^^zeekhuge[m]: that's above my paygrade, maybe, i know you can enter it in plaintext somewhere, dont know about requesting from local network though, maybe11:00
zeekhuge[m]okay. Can I test this stuff on VirtualBox ? or will need a real machine ?11:03
WalterWhitezeekhuge[m]: Think about a hypervisor?11:03
WalterWhitelol zeekhuge[m] I was just typing that.  A hypervisor or even a host/guest VM, but you'd get less overhead with a hypervisor and better security.11:04
zeekhuge[m]WalterWhite: Oh ! okay. Yeah that first message confused me for a bit.11:05
WalterWhitezeekhuge[m]: You can and should use a VM to fiddle around with such things.  :)11:05
cim209dockerize everything!11:06
zeekhuge[m]cim209: The only thing I dont like about docker is, that it can create vulnerabilities, since the user is same.11:06
WalterWhitevmware is my personal favorite, and well worth the buy, but virtualbox can also suffice.11:07
cim209zeekhuge[m]: it's best practice to set the permission of a container's volume to a non-privilege user11:07
zeekhuge[m]WalterWhite: Thanks. Now, I want to understand a bit more how it works. So, it looks like the encryption is over the kernel image and the other files. And if that is the case, then only the BIOS will start up and then ask for the key. Is that right ??11:08
zeekhuge[m]If that is true, then I think there wouldnt be any already-available way to do the local-network-request-for-key thing .11:09
WalterWhitezeekhuge[m]: Yes, but only if the bios accepts an admin password, and a boot password for regular users.11:10
zeekhuge[m]didnt get that part11:11
zeekhuge[m]BIOS has an admin password ?11:11
zeekhuge[m]BIOS as in GRUB right ? I remember I had entered into its root without needing any password.11:12
zeekhuge[m]so what admin/user password ?11:12
WalterWhiteYes.  Some have a password for modifying the bios, and another password for guests, just to login to the machine.11:12
WalterWhiteYou have to set the passwords for them to take effect.11:13
WalterWhitezeekhuge[m]: Most machines have a button to press at POST time to access the BIOS setup...11:14
WalterWhiteLike <del> <F1> <F12>, etc...  Depending on the BIOS.11:15
WalterWhiteAnyway, I've strayed off topic.  Sorry.11:15
zeekhuge[m]Ah, Yeah. But I am still confused. I'll probably read this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption) first and then get back here .11:15
BluesKajHowdy all11:19
FalcHello, I'm trying to do an expert install (priority=low), using the ubuntu-18.04.02-server.iso, using UEFI. In other words, at boot I have a black screen to select what install I want and I do know I need to hit 'e' to edit the boot command, but it's not clear where in that command I need to put the 'priority=low'...11:20
lotuspsychjeFalc: come join to #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers11:21
Falcaha, thanks11:21
TankburnHello11:24
gde33does gedit have a channel? I'm trying to match \n\n but it cant find it11:28
SimonNL#gedit    1 user   gedit developers can be found on #gedit on irc.gnome.org || gedit users on FreeBSD should use #freebsd-gnome here on FreeNode     gde3311:31
SimonNLircs://irc.gnome.org/#gedit right click choose connect.   might work gde3311:32
gde33tyvm11:32
B1ack0phi. is it safe to use bleachbit as root?11:38
lotuspsychjeB1ack0p: yes there's a launcher for both root or non-root11:41
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B1ack0pthx lotuspsychje11:42
B1ack0phow can i remove python2 as i have already python3?11:42
WalterWhiteB1ack0p: Definitely a good idea to clean up a lot of unneeded files, like unused language files, etc..11:43
blackflowB1ack0p: if nothing needs it, you can `apt remove python`. but note that having python3 does not obsolete having 2.x, as many packages still depend on 2.x only11:44
WalterWhiteB1ack0p: Try using Synaptic, and enter "python" and select uninstall/remove.11:45
WalterWhiteBut like blackflow mentioned, you might run into a python 2 program you want to use.11:46
WalterWhiteOr some software that makes use of Python 2.11:48
WalterWhiteFor example HexChat comes to mind, I think.11:48
B1ack0pi made something :S11:49
B1ack0pi was using FSling Janitor11:50
B1ack0pi think it deleted default theme11:50
B1ack0pnow i cant get back ubuntu default theme and icons11:50
melfyjust change your environment path to py311:50
B1ack0phow can i fix it?11:50
melfyupdate-rc.d?11:52
melfyidk :(11:53
B1ack0p:/11:53
B1ack0plet me reboot11:53
B1ack0pbrb11:53
B1ack0pok fixed desktop and theme12:01
B1ack0pnow i have another problem : ubuntu 18.04 failed to start process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled. see 'systemctl status apport-autoreport.service' for details12:01
B1ack0pi am getting this error at startup12:01
qwebirc86905Hi all12:03
lotuspsychjewelcome qwebirc86905 how can we help you?12:04
keiserrhi ecryptsfs question. I was on 16.04, i recently moved to 18.04, long story short, the installer seems to have disabled my encryption. Good, searched, and checked back here, i found that there was an issue with ecryptfs then.12:05
qwebirc86905Hi all12:05
keiserrBut now that bug seems resolved, am trying to encrypt it again, but it says that my home directory is already encrypted, I see that there is a .private and a .ecryptfs folder in my home dir.12:05
keiserrI am unsure, whether i sohuld delete those to start the encryption or not. Also, does encryption take a long time? or can it finish within hours?12:06
blackflowmelfy: if you were suggesting to change the `python` to python3, that's a very bad advice. `python` must be 2.x until it's EOL'd and a new PEP defines it diferently.12:06
qwebirc86905I have gotten stuck in a login loop in 18.04. I have found help online to enter into the terminal login screen, but when I type my username and hit enter, it displays the password prompt, then jumps onto the next line (as if I pressed enter without a password) and complains about incorrect login details12:06
qwebirc86905Not really sure what to do...12:07
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: what kind of graphics card do you have?12:08
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: AMD Radeon 530 Graphics 4GB12:09
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: fresh install or upgrade?12:10
keiserrnevermind figured ou the ecryptfs thingy. did an unmount, then deleted, then proceeded again.12:11
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: neither. Been using it since middle of last year. And been performing all my updates when it asks12:11
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: when I installed it middle of last year, though, it was a fresh install of 18.0412:11
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: ok tnx, lets try to boot a previous kernel first12:12
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: do you know howto?12:12
qwebirc86905sure12:12
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: no idea, but if you send me a help link I can follow the steps12:12
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: hold shift at boot to enter grub, then choose ubuntu previous kernel from there12:13
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: one sec12:13
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: my options are 4.15.0-45-generic (current) and recovery mode as well as 4.15.0.43-generic and recovery mode12:15
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: lets try a -43 for example12:15
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: tried the -43 (not the recovery one) and still loged in and back out again to login page12:16
B1ack0pok fixed everything12:16
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: allright, lets try nomodeset12:17
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | qwebirc8690512:17
ubottuqwebirc86905: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:17
B1ack0pwhen autoreport is on it gives error, when it is set to manual it doesnt give error. i think it is a bug12:17
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: but this time it the terminal it lets me enter a password12:17
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: trying nomodeset now12:18
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: oh wait I logged in. Must I do the "$mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.bak" that is mentioned on helps or must I log in with nomodeset?12:19
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: that was going to be our next step: https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-ubuntu-login-loop/12:20
absenceafter a normal software update (apt-get upgrade), i just get a black screen after logging in from gdm. ubuntu 18.10, laptop with intel uhd 620. using an older kernel doesn't change things, but if i choose "ubuntu in wayland" it works, but seems a bit glitchy. how can i get the default login working again?12:20
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: ok following your link and will get back to you12:20
lotuspsychjeabsence: wich kernel are you on currently?12:21
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: the file Xauthority does not exist12:23
dan01Is it just me or does Eclipse look really ugly on Ubuntu and Linux in general. I've found lot of posts and bug reports about this in general. Widgets are just too big leaving virtually very little space for the text itself, borders are also very large.12:25
lotuspsychjedan01: if you find a bug on a package in ubuntu, please file a new !bug12:26
absencelotuspsychje: 4.18.0-5, also tried 4.18.0-4 from the boot menu12:28
Falcdan01: mine looks pretty good... not very useful to you, I know, but the right settings are out there12:28
arifinahmadhello there12:29
arifinahmadhow are you guys12:29
dan01Falc: can you send a screenshot?12:29
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic cosmic12:30
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.18.0.15.16 (cosmic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB12:30
lotuspsychje!uptodate | absence ?12:30
ubottuabsence ?: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.12:30
knightlingsome german ?12:31
lotuspsychje!de | knightling12:31
ubottuknightling: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!12:31
absencelotuspsychje: yes, did that12:31
Falcdan01: https://pasteboard.co/I368SAz.png12:32
absencelotuspsychje: it was upgrading to the latest packages that broke it :)12:32
knightlingokay okay its my first time after years in a irc channel12:32
lotuspsychjewelcome back to the ubuntu community knightling12:32
dan01Falc: Eh, better than mine, but the buttons are way biger that on Windows, like the compile debug and all those buttons12:33
dan01Falc: or the file tabs, also too big12:33
knightlinglotuspsychje, thank you ;)12:34
lotuspsychjeabsence: whats your graphics card please?12:35
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rockfordalanyone know how to install docx filter for libreoffice (--convert to docx   : "no expoert filter for <file>.docx found, aborting")12:37
lotuspsychjerockfordal: try the libreoffice channel perhaps12:37
rockfordallotuspshychje: will do, tnx12:38
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: When I'm logged in I keep getting this popping up: "PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Data Link Layer, id=00e5(Transmitter ID)". I added the "pci=noaer" as per some tutorials and that has stopped popping up but I still can't log in12:41
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: I don't see Xauthority anywhere in my home12:41
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: do you recall if your system is up to date?12:44
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: maybe check from a tty?12:44
BluesKajqwebirc86905, look in /home>hidden files12:44
BluesKaj /home>view>hidden files12:46
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: I did a apt-get update and it shows 18 packages to be updated and 7 security updates. I can run the updates, but we are in an older kernel. Surely out-of-date packages is normal?12:48
qwebirc86905BluesKaj: I checked. No hidden file that is called .Xauthority either12:48
qwebirc86905checked both with ls -lah | grep -i Xauthority and ls -al12:48
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: yeah update system12:49
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: doing it now12:49
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qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: ok so... updated everything, rebooted and still stuck on login loop in both kernels (-45 and -43). Can only log in to terminal in the -43. Checked again for updates and everything is up to date. Still no .Xauthority file12:57
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: ah i recall a gdm3 bug once, holdon12:58
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: sure12:58
psichashttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386329 qwebirc8690513:00
migue1hi :)13:01
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: lets try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/178098613:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1780986 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Boot stuck at ubuntu logo gnome display manager" [Undecided,Fix released]13:02
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: try the fix after TTY:13:02
qwebirc86905psichas: thanks for the link. Are you suggesting I create one? Or if I do this is how?13:03
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: thanks. doing it now13:03
psichasi didn't used this link :)13:03
psichasim just helping for you :)13:04
ygk_12345hi all13:04
ygk_12345i need some elp with apache2 on ubuntu 1813:04
ygk_12345i cant access custom html pages outside the server13:04
ygk_12345*help13:04
qwebirc86905psichas: thanks13:04
ygk_12345can anyone help me please13:05
psichasygk_12345, opened ports?13:06
ygk_12345psichas: yes13:06
ygk_12345psichas: i can access it from within the server though using wget but not externally13:06
blackflowygk_12345: what error do you get, that's very important13:06
ygk_12345psichas: ufw is disabled13:06
ygk_12345blackflow: url not found13:07
ygk_12345blackflow: but I can access the default page13:07
psichasso dns worng?13:07
blackflowygk_12345: 404?13:07
sveinseAny awk experts here? When changing from 18.04 to 18.10, the following statement "awk 'match($0, /^DESCRIPTION=("([^"]*)")$/, m) { print m[2]; }' file" fails with "syntax error at or near ,"13:07
ygk_12345psichas: blackflow only default page is visible externally13:07
blackflowygk_12345: do you get 40413:07
ygk_12345blackflow: let me check once13:07
blackflowygk_12345: does Apache respond with an error page. if yes, that rules out port or DNS problems.13:07
ygk_12345blackflow: no logs in the error or accesslogs, The requested URL /temp-plot.html was not found on this server.13:08
psichassveinse, ubuntu is not roolling release ... download iso...13:08
blackflowygk_12345: I'm not talking about logs, I'm talking about what you see in the browser. Is it browser's own error page, or Apache's error page.13:08
blackflowygk_12345: "The requested URL /temp-plot.html was not found on this server"  that sounds like apache error13:09
ygk_12345blackflow: I see Not Found, The requested URL /temp-plot.html was not found on this server.13:09
ygk_12345blackflow: yes13:09
ioriaqwebirc86905, if that fails, you can still install the cosmic hwe (that bug  should be  fixed in cosmic)13:09
ygk_12345blackflow: but cant  make out where exactly13:09
sveinsepsichas: what? sorry I'm not following13:09
blackflowygk_12345: alright so, as said, the problem is then in Apache config, vhost config and where it should look for files, probably. it's not firewall, port or DNS issue.13:09
ygk_12345blackflow: within the server I can download the page using wget though13:09
blackflowygk_12345: using exactly the same hostname and url?13:10
ygk_12345blackflow: wget localhost/temp-plot.html works13:10
ygk_12345blackflow: yes13:10
blackflowygk_12345: ygk_12345 no. "localhost"13:10
blackflowlocalhost has no meaning "from the outside"13:10
absencelotuspsychje: intel uhd 62013:11
blackflowygk_12345: to acces the server from outside of it, you need to use its IP or proper public hostname.13:11
ygk_12345blackflow: using both the ip and localhost it is working from  within the server13:11
blackflowygk_12345: are you listening13:11
ygk_12345blackflow: i have the public ip13:11
qwebirc86905ioria: thanks. currently stuck on a whole bunch of [OK] started... messages. will wait a bit before I force reboot. If no luck I'll upgrade the distro13:11
lotuspsychjeabsence: did you try a !nomodeset yet?13:11
blackflowygk_12345: "localhost" translates to 127.0.0.1 and is valid ONLY on the machine itself. you can curl stuff on the server itself, but you can't access by "localhost" from another IP13:12
ygk_12345blackflow: using the public ip i can see only the default page13:12
ioriaqwebirc86905, no need to upgrade the distro: just sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.0413:12
blackflowygk_12345: right, because you need to set up the vhost properly for the public hostname, not just "localhost"13:12
ygk_12345blackflow: how to do that ?13:12
ygk_12345blackflow: i am using the default site vhost13:12
blackflowygk_12345: that's beyond teh scope of #ubuntu, you'd have to ask for Apache support13:12
blackflowygk_12345: or pop in #ubuntu-server, so this channel is not clogged with apache details13:13
qwebirc86905ioria: oh... ok. Will try that. Are you suggesting I do that instead of the upgrade so I can stay in LTS version? Cause it's my personal machine, so I don't mind upgrading13:13
sveinseFound it. ubuntu 18.10 is shipped with mawk by default, and when I installed gawk then everything works fine. I guess a similar situation as dash vs bash.13:13
ioriaqwebirc86905, yep13:13
qwebirc86905ioria: cool. thanks13:14
ioriagl13:14
absencelotuspsychje: no, what's that?13:14
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | absence13:14
ubottuabsence: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:14
absencelotuspsychje: maybe i could try it, but wouldn't gdm also be broken then? gdm works fine13:15
lotuspsychjeabsence: nomodeset doesnt break packages13:15
absencelotuspsychje: i mean, it sounds like nomodeset is a solution for corrupted splash screen or booting into a black screen. but i don't get a black screen until after logging in via gdm. both the splash screen and gdm itself display fine, so apparently it can modeset just fine13:18
pragmaticenigmaabsence: that's not all that nomodeset does13:19
lotuspsychjeabsence: im trying to widen options, test what we can do13:20
absencelotuspsychje: ok i see. i'll try it, but i can't reboot at the moment unfortunately13:21
pragmaticenigmaabsence: nomodeset stops the kernel from probing the graphics cards for display modes and defaults to basic VESA operations. This allows the kernel time to load in the driver and the starting X server which will do it's own probing of the graphics instead of assuming the kernel already did it13:21
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: that didn't work.13:23
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: allright mate, try ioria's advice13:23
qwebirc86905ioria: I tried your upgrade, and that didn't work either. However at least I am now on kernel 4.18 and I can log in to the terminal13:24
qwebirc86905ioria: did an update and upgrade and all is up to date13:24
ioriaqwebirc86905, sudo systemctl restart gdm313:24
qwebirc86905give me a sec13:25
absencepragmaticenigma: ok, good to know13:26
qwebirc86905ioria: restarts, takes me back to the GUI login page and then back to login loop :(13:27
ioriaqwebirc86905, cat /proc/cmdline | nc termbin.com 999913:27
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: you are on ubuntu-desktop right, not some derivative?13:28
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: yes. Well whatever comes from the Ubuntu website. I think it's the new gnome one (not unity)13:29
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: allright, just doublechecking13:29
ioriaqwebirc86905, or  cat /proc/cmdline    and paste it here13:29
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/hbbm13:29
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: cool. I stick to "generics" so that it's easier to get help lol13:30
qwebirc86905ioria: I added the pci=noaer today while I was being helped13:30
qwebirc86905I kept getting the PCIe Bus Error13:30
ioriaqwebirc86905, ls -al $HOME | grep root13:31
KingsyDoes anyone know why after installing fonts via apt-get they don't appear in xfontsel ?13:31
qwebirc86905ioria: prints: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 26 2018 ..13:32
ioriaqwebirc86905, at the login screen, be sure 'Ubuntu' is selected and not 'Ubuntu on Wayland'13:33
qwebirc86905ok will try again13:34
qwebirc86905ioria: how do I go back to GUI screen without rebooting?13:34
ioriaqwebirc86905, sudo systemctl restart gdm313:34
qwebirc86905ioria: ah ok13:34
ioriaqwebirc86905, and what's your video card ?   sudo lshw -c Video | nc termbin.com 999913:35
qwebirc86905ioria: tried it and ubuntu is selected. My video card is https://termbin.com/8nph13:36
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: stock amdgpu driver, or did you install it from amd?13:39
ducasseKingsy: xfontsel does not list all font formats, iirc13:40
ioriaqwebirc86905, lspci -k | grep -EA4 'VGA|Display' | nc termbin.com 999913:40
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: Whatever the default did (I assume it's stock). Last time I tried installing propriatery drivers I things went wonky lol13:40
ducasseKingsy: there's a program called font-manager, use that instead13:40
Kingsyducasse: see the problem is, I want to use the font in dwm, and it expects a foramt like this ---> "-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-100-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1"  which I am guessing is the output from xfontsel ?13:41
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/oltr13:41
qwebirc86905This termbin.com is amazing! What with the fact I'm typing here from a different machine lol13:42
ioriaqwebirc86905, already tried 'nomodeset' ?13:42
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905 ioria maybe amdgpu issues in dmesg?13:42
lotuspsychjewe had some users before with amdgpu stock driver issues13:43
iorialotuspsychje, yes13:43
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: can you access dmesg?13:43
qwebirc86905ioria: no, because we successfully logged with via terminal (lotuspsychje did suggest it).13:43
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: I have no idea what that is or how13:44
ioriaqwebirc86905, or try this:   reboot -> grub -> advanced options -> recovery mode -> resume13:44
lotuspsychje!dmesg | qwebirc8690513:44
ubottuqwebirc86905: dmesg is a console command which outputs the kernel ring buffer - an important log for diagnosing problems in  Linux. Often when something errors with hardware it will result in additional lines reported which can be seen by running dmesg in a console.13:44
ducasseKingsy: it is, i don't remember if font-manager can do that13:44
ducasseKingsy: but can dwm use ttf fonts, for example?13:44
qwebirc86905ioria: ok we didn't go in recovery mode. Hold on13:44
ioriaok13:44
ioriaqwebirc86905,  after :  dmesg | grep -i amdgpu13:45
Kingsyducasse: well I know it can use terminus, which is ttf right?13:45
qwebirc86905ioria: I am in the recovery menu. Which option?13:45
ioriaqwebirc86905,  resume13:45
qwebirc86905ioria: it said it exited recovery mode13:46
qwebirc86905trying the dmesg now13:46
ducasseKingsy: ok, maybe that is not the format xfontsel can't see, then. or this was an old problem, now fixed. i can't say, i'm afraid.13:46
ioriaqwebirc86905,  wait ... what it said ?13:46
qwebirc86905ioria: when I clicked resume it gave me a warning telling me it was exiting recovery mode13:47
Meilido we already have an Xorg log from qwebirc86905?13:47
qwebirc86905Let me do it again so I can tell you the exact message13:47
ioriaqwebirc86905,  another broken thing13:47
qwebirc86905however on the reboot now it showed a lot more text than before lol13:47
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qwebirc86905ioria: "You are not going to exit the recovery mode and continue the boot sequense. PLease note that some graphic drivers require a full graphical boot and so will fail when resuming from recovery....."13:49
ioriaqwebirc86905,  that's ok.... and what happens ?13:49
lotuspsychjeMeili: not yet no13:50
qwebirc86905ioria: still in login loop13:51
qwebirc86905must I try the dmesg thing?13:51
ioriaqwebirc86905,  dmesg | grep -i amdgpu | nc termbin.com 999913:51
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/2zwf13:52
Meiliqwebirc86905: can you describe your login loop again? What do you see exactly when you do what?13:54
ioriaqwebirc86905,  what laptop is that ?13:55
ducasseKingsy: can you use the format xft:"Terminus 14"?13:56
qwebirc86905Meili: I see my login screen with my username. I click on it and shows password prompt. I enter the password, screen goes flashes and shows my background for a split second and then shows the login screen again13:56
qwebirc86905ioria: Dell Inspiron 5570 - "Dell N5570-I78550U-8256"13:57
ioriaqwebirc86905,  you need to  reboot and paste again dmesg | grep -i amdgpu13:57
ioriaqwebirc86905,  atm you're still in recovery13:57
ducasseKingsy: you might also need to do 'xset fp rehash' to reread the font database13:57
qwebirc86905yes13:57
qwebirc86905haven't rebooted13:57
Meiliqwebirc86905: thank you (I thought I read somewhere that you couldnt properly enter your password), so I was wondering what the focus on the display drivers were about.13:58
qwebirc86905ioria: doing it now13:58
qwebirc86905Meili: that was an issue I was experiencing earlier. I was going into the terminal, typing my username and then when it went down onto the password line it's like it autopressed "enter". That was on kernel 4.15-45. Not an issue any more since we updated to kernel 4.1814:00
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qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/19u114:00
Meiliqwebirc86905: good to hear.14:00
ioriaqwebirc86905,  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999914:01
ioriaqwebirc86905,  ah, i'am assuming you're not using any ppa, right ?14:02
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/f3ur14:02
qwebirc86905ioria: how do I check? I was installing one for a software I needed for development yday14:03
ioriaqwebirc86905,  in that file , replace  pci=noaer   with amdgpu.dc=1  , save and run  sudo update-grub14:03
qwebirc86905ioria: I can't remember if I ended up adding the ppa14:03
ioriawe'll see later14:04
qwebirc86905ioria: one sec14:04
qwebirc86905ioria: done. reboot?14:06
ioriaqwebirc86905,  wait ....   stat $HOME | nc termbin.com 999914:06
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/junp14:07
ioriaqwebirc86905,  yeah, reboot14:07
qwebirc86905ioria: doing it now14:08
qwebirc86905ioria: login loop again14:08
ioriaqwebirc86905,  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | nc termbin.com 999914:09
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/9dwcc : I installed inkscape yesterday14:10
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: when was the last time your ubuntu was working?14:10
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: the day before yesterday lol14:11
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: did you say updates borked it?14:11
qwebirc86905when ioria mentioned ppa's. I remember that I added one14:11
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: no I didn't. I said I installed software and today it's not working. That was the only PPA I added. The rest I installed simply by doing sudo apt-get install14:12
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: I don't know if it was that the broke it, or if it was the normal ubuntu updates that i also did yesterday14:12
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: can you pastebin us your dpkg logs from the day you broke?14:12
Kingsyducasse: yeah I think you can use references directly out of fc-list14:13
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: command?14:13
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: sorry, I usually work off GUI and with the help of google. I don't know where they are saved14:13
ducasseKingsy: try those instead, it's the common format these days14:13
ioriaqwebirc86905, ok,  in the /etc/default/grub change   amdgpu.dc=1   with amdgpu.dc=0  ;  sudo update-grub after14:14
Meiliqwebirc86905: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | nc termbin.com 999914:14
Meiliqwebirc86905: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 999914:14
Meiliqwebirc86905: cat ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 999914:14
qwebirc86905ioria: reboot or do you want to see stat $HOME again?14:15
ioria.xsession-errors  is not used  by gnome-shell on 18.0414:15
qwebirc86905Meili: thanks. will get them now14:15
ioriaqwebirc86905, nope, reboot14:15
qwebirc86905kk14:16
qwebirc86905ioria: still nothing. loop persists14:16
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: did you install gnome extensions?14:17
ioriaqwebirc86905, this is silly,but might help:   sudo apt install fluxbox ; reboot and select fluxbox from the login screen session picker14:19
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje, Meili dpkg.log => https://termbin.com/ih8y14:20
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje, Meili Xorg.0.log => https://termbin.com/7qam14:20
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje, Meili I do not have an .xsessions-errors file (I had looked for it before)14:20
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: If the gnome extensions were installed during standard updates, then yes. Otherwise I didn't do it myself14:21
qwebirc86905ioria: doing it now14:21
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: i see mesa updates on 26/214:22
lotuspsychjemaybe we got a mesa case?14:22
qwebirc86905ioria: I'm in and it didn't kick me out again.14:23
qwebirc86905ioria: that being said I don't know this desktop so don't know how to log out lol14:23
ioriaqwebirc86905, right click14:23
qwebirc86905ioria: ok I'm out14:24
qwebirc86905so fluxbox works14:24
ioriaqwebirc86905, yep14:24
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: I have no idea what mesa is. other than what Jar-jar says lol14:24
qwebirc86905sorry... need some humour here lol14:24
qwebirc86905you guys are champs btw, for helping me out. If only I could post a beer or wine or whatever to you guys lol14:25
qwebirc86905ioria: Ubuntu Classic loops me back too14:25
MeiliI'm not using gnome, so can anyone else explain how he can pastebin his session log?14:25
ioriaqwebirc86905, Ubuntu Classic it's not installed by default ....14:26
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qwebirc86905ioria: ah... that would make sense lol14:26
leftyfbMeili: pastebinit or pipe to terminbin 999914:26
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qwebirc86905Meili: if you tell me where I can find it, then I can send it to termbin.com14:26
ioriaqwebirc86905, ls /usr/share/xsessions/ | nc term.com 999914:26
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Meilileftyfb: I know, I just don't know how he should get which log from journalctl14:27
leftyfbioria: might not want to abbreviate domains14:27
ioriayep14:27
ioriaqwebirc86905, ls /usr/share/xsessions/ | nc termbin.com 999914:27
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/z8mg14:28
qwebirc86905leftyfb: lol. been didn't even notice it was abbreviated, I 've done it so many times today lol14:29
ioriaqwebirc86905, restart gdm3 and login in community-theme14:29
qwebirc86905ioria: I don't see it in the drop down. I see Ubuntu and Ubuntu on Wayland14:30
qwebirc86905is it that one?14:30
ioriaqwebirc86905, yep, https://termbin.com/z8mg14:31
qwebirc86905ioria: flashes to a black screen and then back out14:31
qwebirc86905to the login screen14:31
ioriaqwebirc86905,   sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop14:32
lotuspsychjeioria: something weird, mesa-vdpau-driversis optional still dpkg logs show him installing it14:33
qwebirc86905ioria: done. reboot before I try? or restart gdm3?14:33
iorialotuspsychje, mmmm, no idea14:33
ioriaqwebirc86905,   the second :þ14:34
qwebirc86905ioria: kk14:34
qwebirc86905ioria: back out14:34
ioriaqwebirc86905,  restore to default  /etc/default/grub14:36
ioriaqwebirc86905,  i mean set   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"14:36
qwebirc86905ioria: ok14:37
ioriaqwebirc86905,  and sudo update-grub14:37
ioriaqwebirc86905,  secure boot enabled ?14:39
qwebirc86905ioria: restarted gdm3 and still in the loop14:40
qwebirc86905ioria: secure boot? I have no idea. If it's done by default then yes14:40
ioriaqwebirc86905,  sudo apt install lightdm14:40
ioriaqwebirc86905,  and set it as default instead of gdm314:42
qwebirc86905ioria: slected lightdm and it's done installing14:43
ioriaqwebirc86905,  sudo service lightdm restart14:43
qwebirc86905ioria: logged in, showed background and back to login14:44
ioriaqwebirc86905,  meh....  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm314:45
Meiliany chance on a log of that failing session?14:45
qwebirc86905ioria: back to normalk14:46
qwebirc86905Meili: how do I get that? Do you want me to log in and send you the xsessions log?14:46
qwebirc86905Meili: I mean attempt to log in via GUI and then send you the xsession via terminal14:47
ioriaqwebirc86905,  Meili    maybe   sudo journalctl  -u gdm.service14:48
Meiliqwebirc86905: I'd wish I could tell you but I'm too unfamiliar with Xorg logging14:49
Meili qwebirc86905: try iorias command, If that yields somehting of interest, pipe it termbin14:49
qwebirc86905Meili: not sure if this is what you wanted?14:50
qwebirc86905ioria: doing it now14:50
ioriaqwebirc86905,  and try to add a new user :   sudo adduser usertwo14:50
ioriasorry, brb14:50
qwebirc86905Meili: here you go: https://termbin.com/12q814:52
qwebirc86905ioria: trying it now14:52
qwebirc86905ioria, Meili lotuspsychje usertwo logs in successfully14:55
qwebirc86905X_X14:55
Meililovely14:56
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: you fixxed it?14:59
Meilinew user works14:59
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: hahaha15:00
qwebirc86905ya. new user works. old user still has an issue15:00
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: something must have borked your userspace then15:00
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: would that happen if I put something in the /usr/local/bin file?15:01
qwebirc86905*directory15:01
ducasseqwebirc86905: it's most likely a user config issue15:03
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: we dont know what you all did yesterday15:03
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qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: lol not what I meant. I meant could broken file(s) in there have caused this, is all. Cause I can tell you exactly what I installed and where. I was following a book's instructions15:05
qwebirc86905ducasse: any way I can check/reset that?15:06
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: a book instruction?15:06
tgm4883qwebirc86905: Generally you'll need to be looking for stuff in your home directory, since a new user works fine15:06
ducasseqwebirc86905: https://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults15:06
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: I was trying to install Softcover on my machine so that it can produce book. It required a whole bunch of dependencies, like NodeJS, PhantomJS, Kindlegen, etc15:08
qwebirc86905tgm4883: I'll take a look15:08
qwebirc86905ducasse: thanks. Will this uninstall applications I have installed? (as in reset the user completely?) or just the gnome stuff?15:08
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: wich guide did you follow?15:09
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: http://manual.softcover.io/book/getting_started#sec-installing_softcover15:10
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: you will see a list of all the software I installed15:10
qwebirc86905that and MySQL Workbench that keeps crashing lol15:10
lotuspsychjeqwebirc86905: next time, please mention this at the beginning of your question15:11
qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: I did. I said that I installed software and then Ubuntu updates. Apologies for not being specific. I can even tell you how I "installed" the above. Some were files I pasted into /usr/local/bin and other I installed using sudo apt-get install15:12
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qwebirc86905lotuspsychje: I notcied that I have an ICEauthority, but I don't know if that was created due to fluxbox installation.15:13
ducasseqwebirc86905: it just resets gnome config15:17
qwebirc86905ducasse: thanks15:18
ioriaqwebirc86905,  how it's going ?15:23
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lotuspsychjeioria: he fixxed it15:23
lotuspsychjeioria: user2 worked15:23
iorialet me scroll15:23
ioriaok15:24
ioriaqwebirc86905, now you need to add usertwo do sudo15:24
ioria*to15:25
qwebirc86905ioria: sure.15:25
qwebirc86905ioria: btw, are you getting me to change user? lol Or to use usertwo to fix user 1?15:26
ioriaqwebirc86905, sudo adduser <username> sudo15:26
ioriaqwebirc86905, no, you need to main user15:26
qwebirc86905ioria: done15:26
qwebirc86905oh ok15:26
ioriaqwebirc86905, you need to main user to add user2 to sudo, i mean15:27
ioria*the15:27
qwebirc86905ioria: oh ya. I've done that. I was user 1 and added usertwo to sudo15:28
ioriagood15:28
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ioriaqwebirc86905, reading you did some stuff .... with Softcover15:29
qwebirc86905ioria: ya15:29
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ioriaqwebirc86905, what about the ducasse suggestion ?15:30
qwebirc86905I haven't had a chance to do it because I'm trying to find out which version of Gnome I'm running so I can follow the correct instructions15:31
qwebirc86905ioria: all I know is that I'm running gnome. Not if it's gnome2 or gnome3 and I don't have any files in my /home directory labeled like that15:32
lawnmowermanhello, i have a very specific question. can the parted apt extend mounted partitions? searched everywhere but i could not find the answer. hoping anyone has encountered this before15:32
lawnmowerman+15:32
ioriaqwebirc86905, dpkg -l | grep gnome-session15:33
qwebirc86905ioria: just says GNOME Sesson Manager. Nothing about 1 or 2. I don't have .old-gnome-config file either lol. so will just delete whichever I see based on what it shows15:34
ioriaqwebirc86905, dpkg -l | grep gnome-session | nc termbin.com 999915:35
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/awgz15:35
ioriaqwebirc86905, weird, you have gnome Classic; so you should have also 'gnome-session'15:37
qwebirc86905ioria: there is no 'gnome-session' in my home directory15:37
ioriaqwebirc86905, gnome-session it's a package15:38
qwebirc86905ioria: oh X_X15:38
ioria!ingo gnome-session15:38
ioria!info gnome-session15:38
ubottugnome-session (source: gnome-session): GNOME Session Manager - GNOME 3 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-0ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 42 kB, installed size 145 kB15:38
ash_worksiI was frustrated yesterday and mistyped multiple ALT commands things while trying to simply lock my computer; now my terminator app has a big gold star on it... does anyone know what that means?15:39
qwebirc86905ioria: so must I delete the files based on duca s s e's suggestion?15:39
qwebirc86905ioria: or would you want to try something else first?15:39
ioriaqwebirc86905,  cd  in /usr/share/xsessions   and paste   gnome.classic file15:40
olabazHi, I have a 2nd hard drive with my data stored. If I open up "other locations" in file explorer it's always there and I can access it. But I don't think it's automatically mounted because my sync program says it can't find it.15:41
olabazIs there a way to do automount?15:41
olabazI think I should edit fstab but I'm unsure what to put there15:42
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/f9pl15:42
ioriaqwebirc86905,  ls -al $HOME | nc termbin.com 999915:44
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/7n8915:45
qwebirc86905ioria: I see that I now have an .xsessions-errors file that I didn't have before15:46
ioriaqwebirc86905,  look at the date15:46
qwebirc86905ioria: ya. Could that have happened when we logged in with fluxbox?15:47
qwebirc86905I also have an .Xauthority file now15:47
qwebirc86905ioria: what's the command so I can try now? sudo systemctl restart gdm3?15:49
ioriaqwebirc86905,  to do what ?15:49
ioriaqwebirc86905,  what have you done ?15:49
ioriaqwebirc86905,  you removed some stuff ?15:50
qwebirc86905ioria: nothing. haven't touched anything and haven't deleted the gnome files either.15:50
qwebirc86905ioria: no i haven't.15:50
qwebirc86905but now I see these files that weren't there before15:50
ioriaqwebirc86905, yes, the command is that .... try15:50
ioriaqwebirc86905, i think you need to remove some .hidden folders15:51
qwebirc86905ioria: nothing.15:51
qwebirc86905ioria: let me remove the hidden folders as per the suggested "reset"15:52
ioriaqwebirc86905,  so try to rm  (or rename)    -rif   .config  .gconf   .gnome15:52
qwebirc86905ioria: ok will do the ones you said. I was going to follow this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults15:52
ioriaqwebirc86905,  something like that, yes15:53
m-blaisegreetings15:54
qwebirc86905ioria: what about .cache, .thumbnails and .Xauthority?15:55
m-blaiseanyone aware of any active MQTT channel?15:56
ioriaqwebirc86905, usually not relevant, but might be15:56
tomreyn!alis | m-blaise15:56
ubottum-blaise: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"15:56
qwebirc86905ioria: ok done. restarting gdm3 and praying lol15:57
qwebirc86905ioria: nothing. still the same. I even rebooted the machine, just in case15:59
qwebirc86905ioria: all files have been recreated except for the .Xauthority file (which blogs say it's how it fixes the issue) and the .thumbnails file16:00
ioriaqwebirc86905, echo $SHELL16:00
qwebirc86905ioria: '/bin/bash'16:01
ioriaqwebirc86905, remove zlogin   zshrc16:02
ioriaqwebirc86905,  and backup .profile16:02
qwebirc86905ioria: will do. In the meantime, please check this https://termbin.com/wvmb compared to the instructions here https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-ubuntu-login-loop/ under "change /tmp permissions". Not sure if it makes a difference16:03
dwtshello everyone, is there a way to list all the boot parameters used when loading from an usb live usb?16:03
ioriaqwebirc86905,  that it's ok16:05
dwtsthe /proc/cmdline info doesn't seem to provide the info I'm looking for16:05
ioriaqwebirc86905,  ls -ld /tmp16:05
geniiUsed to be the F6 key to view or edit the boot parameters on livecd/usb16:05
nevada1So I booted up Ubuntu 16.04.5 (32-bit) inside VirtualBox with 4GB RAM, 128MB Video Memory. I have an issue with CPU usage. Compiz randomly shoots to 50%+ CPU usage for no reason, with no apps running. Any ideas?16:06
nevada1This in turn makes it very laggy.16:06
qwebirc86905ioria: nothing. and it didn't recreate the .zlogin, .zshrc nor .profile16:06
dwtsI'm on Ubuntu 18.10 live usb if that makes any difference16:06
rapidwaveIs it wise for a personal Ubuntu machine to have Snort installed?16:07
qwebirc86905ioria: ls -ld /tmp https://termbin.com/anxj16:07
ioriaqwebirc86905,  ok   cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999  (brb again)16:08
qwebirc86905ioria: https://termbin.com/ogsa16:09
nevada1Even after installing Guest Additions, Compiz still consumes just as much.16:09
qwebirc86905ioria: btw, the PCIe bus error was why I put the pci=noaer in the boot thing16:10
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ash_worksi¯\_(ツ)_/¯16:14
ash_worksidoes anyone know what the gold star on my app means?16:14
ash_worksi(terminator terminal app)16:14
tomreynqwebirc86905: did your issue get solved? it's so much chat, i only read the very beginning, what was you reporting that you're affected by bug 1813873 (you may want to read up on that).16:16
ubottubug 1813873 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "Userspace break as a result of missing patch backport" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181387316:16
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qwebirc86905tomreyn: unfortunately not. Not sure if that was the bug, but I still can't log in using the GUI with my user, but my second user we created can.16:18
tomreynqwebirc86905: the pci bus errors seem to be 172615916:18
tomreynbug 172615916:18
ubottubug 1726159 in linux (Ubuntu) "PCIe BUS Error causing really slow laptop performance" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172615916:18
qwebirc86905tomreyn: it says that people only get it when the laptop is plugged in. I currently also have mine plugged in. However I have no idea if that is related to my login loop16:20
Guest60hi, my ubuntu 18.04 lts has been crashing quite often while launching Google Chrome, Eclipse or switching screens so far. Cursor and screen freezes and sometimes allows cursor movement. I have windows in this laptop and it is working fine so far. I am not sure what caused it, but maybe it is nvidia drivier after I updated it. Can anybody help me?16:20
tomreynqwebirc86905: me enither, sounds like it can be a separate issue. which ubuntu release ( lsb_release -ds ) and kernel version + options ( cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline ) are you running there?16:21
qwebirc86905tomreyn: I only realised I was getting this error because it kept interrupting me while trying to type on my terminal, while we were trying to sort out my login loop error16:21
tomreynGuest60: which ubuntu release ( lsb_release -ds ) and kernel version + options ( cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline ) are you running there? which graphical desktop?16:23
qwebirc86905tomreyn: Ubuntu 18.04.02 LTS   https://termbin.com/sj7p     https://termbin.com/fxm816:23
qwebirc86905tomreyn: bare in mind that before today's conversation I was on kernel 4.15.0-45-generic16:25
tomreynqwebirc86905: 1813873 is fixed in the kernel version you'Re running so that's not / no longer an issue for you.16:25
tomreynqwebirc86905: so this was an issue, and you worked around it by installing the hwe kernel.16:26
qwebirc86905tomreyn: honestly, I have no idea what 1813873 was lol I do know that ioria helped me fixed it.16:27
ioriaqwebirc86905,  ok   your syslog is a festival of warnigs and errors16:28
qwebirc86905tomreyn: on that was the one that i couldn't type the password16:28
qwebirc86905ioria: I saw lol16:28
tomreynqwebirc86905: would you mind rebooting and getting a fresh boot log and post that? so:  sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit      # then reboot, then:  journalctl -b | pastebinit    # then paste the url here.16:28
ioriaqwebirc86905,  mv  .local  local.back16:29
qwebirc86905ioria: done16:29
tomreynqwebirc86905: or just keep working with ioria, i didn't mean to jump into that. ;-)16:29
ioriano problem tomreyn16:30
tomreyn:)16:30
ioriaqwebirc86905,  mv  .xinputrc   xinputrc.back16:30
qwebirc86905tomreyn: haha I was just going to ask if you guys can tell me which instruction to follow first. I know you guys are trying to help16:30
tomreynqwebirc86905: ioria knows a lot more about your situation than i do, so i'll happily stand back.16:31
qwebirc86905ioria: done16:31
qwebirc86905tomreyn: cool. and thanks for trying to help. I can come back to you after and you can ask me to run any tests thereafter?16:31
ioriaqwebirc86905,  try to login again16:32
tomreynqwebirc86905: feel free to try, i may still be around.16:32
ioriatomreyn, i ran out of ideads btw16:32
qwebirc86905ioria: YESS!!!!!! I'm IN!!!!!!16:33
ioriano way16:33
iorialucky guy16:33
qwebirc86905ioria: I know... I had given up hoping hahaha16:33
tomreyn!megacookie | ioria16:33
qwebirc86905!megacookie | ioria16:33
ioriaqwebirc86905, hehehe16:33
qwebirc86905ioria: let me restart the laptop so it can log out from everywhere and make sure it works lol16:34
ioriaok16:34
qwebirc86905ioria: ok. all good. Talk about last ray of hope haha16:35
ioriaqwebirc86905, keep the second user, might be useful16:35
qwebirc86905ioria: you have NO IDEA how GRATEFUL I am for what you did today and your help16:36
ioriaqwebirc86905, no problem, really16:36
qwebirc86905there was no way I would've even thought or known to do half the stuff16:36
qwebirc86905ioria: I assume this didn't fix all the warnings and errors? lol16:36
ioriaqwebirc86905, nope, the pci ones are not cool16:37
qwebirc86905I didn't know I had them until I saw these log files. Will see what I can do.16:37
qwebirc86905I think the pci=noaer was just squashing the noise, not the problem16:38
ioriaqwebirc86905, yup16:38
qwebirc86905ioria: cool. problem for another day lol16:38
qwebirc86905ioria: thanks again16:38
ioriaqwebirc86905, keep an eye on the /var/log size ;  it's ok16:38
qwebirc86905tomreyn: you wanted me to do something, I think to help with the errors. would you like me to do it now?16:39
qwebirc86905ioria: will do16:39
madlyshadowhi guys16:45
BrianBlazegood morning madlyshadow16:46
tomreynqwebirc86905: feel free to do it and post the results, pinging me when you're done. let me repeat what i had suggested:  sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit      # then reboot, then:  journalctl -b | pastebinit    # then paste the url here.16:47
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n00byHi everyone, I am having issues getting a service running (Ubuntu 18.04) whenever I use the `User` and `Group` settings in the service file. It works on users but an error occurs when the user name has a . (dot) in the name (at least that seems to be the only thing that triggers it))17:09
n00byIs this a know issue?17:09
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OerHeksnot an issue, just the way it works, allowed is [a-zA-Z_][a-zA-Z0-9_]17:11
n00bythats odd, I have this setup running on 16.0417:13
n00byIs there any work around?17:13
n00byand thanks for your quick replies17:14
OerHeksyou claim it works with a . in 16.04?17:15
rypervenchen00by: You shouldn't have "." in your usernames regardless.17:15
OerHeksmaybe a "_ " is legit, not sure17:15
n00bytried that, and the 16.04 doesn't have anything special (i tried the same file on 18)17:16
OerHeksi am sure 16.04 does not accept a dot in usernames too17:16
tomreynhere's how to break things https://askubuntu.com/questions/405638/what-are-the-disadvantages-of-having-a-dot-in-a-user-name17:17
pragmaticenigmaOerHeks: The regex you posted allows for underscores17:17
OerHekspragmaticenigma, thanks, i thought so, but certaily not a dot17:17
pragmaticenigmaOerHeks: Correct... for a "dot" or period to be allowed... that expression would need a "\." to allow the period or simply "." which is a wildcard when not escaped17:18
n00bySo its bad practice to have a dot in user name on linux, noted17:18
pragmaticenigman00by: in general it's bad to have a dot in user names17:18
tomreynthe risk of software  not escaping those dots and underscores when using these user and group names with ldap, kerberos, system environments such as PATH and other software are good reasons not to allow dots and underscores in user or group names.17:20
tomreyn* system environment variables17:21
tewardtomreyn: dashes work though right?17:21
tomreynyes17:21
tewardin the off-chance they wanted to replace dots with dashes ;)17:21
pragmaticenigmateward: they're not recommended, but are allowed if they are not the first character17:21
n00bythanks, noted, however, everyone in the engineering department where i work uses linux and already have there names defined with dots, we want to migrate to 18.04 (without reimageing everyons machines) but this has been an issue.17:21
OerHeksnot first character +117:21
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tomreynn00by: you can postpone changing the user names, but chances are it will only get more complex in the future.17:22
n00byyeah I guess we will change the dot notation for future deployments and run the service as root (not ideal) in current machines17:23
pragmaticenigman00by: it is very odd that your team was able to run these services in the past with dotted user names. Did someone on your team (past or present) make it possible?17:23
saint_how can i troubleshoot the fact that when i transfer files from my NAS with a GB connection through a UBN switch, to my mac with a GB connection, the transfer goes to about 30Mb/s - the NAS has enterprise HDs17:26
n00bypragmaticenigma: the original guru left the company around 6 months ago and we are still discovering magical dust all over the company, so I cant say for sure17:26
blumhello everybody17:27
tomreynn00by: you really shouldnt be running a service as root which doesn't need to be, but then you seem to know this.17:27
pragmaticenigman00by: As a stop gap measure, you could just create a non-dotted user and run your services as that user where root would be required17:28
tomreynsaint_: start with a network throughput / bandwidth test. you will need to know a software which works on both ends. iperf is somewhat widely supported.17:29
saint_tomreyn will try thank you17:29
blumexit17:29
tomreynsaint_: thie test results will tell you whether the issue is actually network related or something local to one or more of the systems.17:30
n00bytomreyn: pragmaticenigma: that make a lot more sense actually, thanks, that's probably what I'll end up doing17:30
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roberGreetings18:07
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saint_tomreyn just tried iperf, and I'm transfering 20MB blocks at 250Mb/s18:09
tomreynsaint_: from where to where?18:14
saint_NAS with Gb ethernet card, Jumbo frames activated, Cat6 cable -> UniFi Switch 24 ports -> Cat6 cable to my computer / Gb ethenet card18:16
saint_tomreyn jumbo frames activated on unifi switch18:16
tomreynsaint_: which ubuntu version runs on the NAS? nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline;)18:18
saint_oh sorry. i m on the wrong chan :/18:18
saint_tomreyn i though i was on ubnt18:18
tomreynthose characters are part of this channel name, but not only.18:19
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atliquidhola18:43
lordcirth_atliquid, hi18:44
brimestoneHey guys, question about httpd directives. I'm trying to serve a file with "-rw-------" this permission and when I tried to hit on the browser it says no access.19:14
lordcirth_brimestone, and the file is owned by who?19:15
brimestoneby administrator:admin19:15
ikoniabrimestone: the webserver won't be able to read that then19:15
ikoniachange the owner or permission19:15
brimestoneNow sure who owns the webserver19:15
lordcirth_It needs to be readable by www-data19:16
brimestoneOr set it to 75519:16
ikoniadepends on the security you need19:16
brimestonethanks..19:16
TabMasherGood day everyone!19:30
Captain_HaddockHello TabMasher19:31
TabMasherCaptain_Haddock: Hello!19:32
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Sword_TechHello all20:13
iorialo20:15
OerHeksnss update that requires reboot, brb20:17
felixcraHi guys. I have a 18.04 that I cannot connect to the internet. My machine is 16.04. How can I download a 18.04 package with dependencies and install it on the other machine?20:24
ioriafelixcra, it's not clear to me what are you asking20:25
tgm4883!offline20:26
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD20:26
felixcraI want to install python3-distutils on a machine that runs Ubuntu 18.04 and has no internet connection. I have a Ubuntu 16.04 machine that has internet connection. How can I download python3-distutils with dependencies for Ubuntu 18.04 on the Ubuntu 16.04 machine and then copy it with a USB stick to the Ubuntu 18.04 machine to install it there.20:27
ioriafelixcra, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/python3-distutils20:27
OerHeksyou can use the 18.04 to make an offline script, to download on that 16.04 machine20:28
OerHeks!offline20:28
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD20:28
ioriafelixcra, but python3 should be already there20:28
OerHekssynaptic can do that, softwarecentre too20:28
ioriafelixcra, and also python3-distutils iirc20:29
felixcrasry if I am a bit dumb @ioria, but does the link you provided offer some way to download that package? I saw it before and didn't know what to do20:29
OerHeks!info python3-distutils  bionic20:29
ubottupython3-distutils (source: python3-stdlib-extensions): distutils package for Python 3.x. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.7-1~18.04 (bionic), package size 137 kB, installed size 1365 kB20:29
ioriafelixcra, sure click on 'all'20:29
felixcrahow would I install that package then on the target machine?20:30
OerHeksdpkg -i *.deb20:30
ioriafelixcra,  sudo dpkg  -i  package.deb20:30
felixcraok thanks a lot I'll try that immediately20:31
ioriafelixcra,  you need also python3-lib2to3   obviuosly20:33
ioriafelixcra,  so the cmd is   sudo dpkg  -i  *.deb20:34
felixcrawow that worked :D20:36
ioriagood job20:36
felixcrado you know if I can download on packages.ubuntu.com a package with dependencies_20:39
felixcra?20:39
felixcranow I'd like to install qt5-default, which has so many deps20:40
lordcirthfelixcra, you want to manually download the .debs? Why can't you use apt?20:40
felixcraI need to download 18.04 .debs on a 16.04 machine.20:41
leftyfbdon't20:41
OerHeksthe answer is offline, else you need to find out dependencies yourself20:41
leftyfbfelixcra: why do you think you need to do that?20:41
felixcrato install them on another machine, that has no internet access20:42
ioriafelixcra,  can we ask you why you cannot get connectivity on the 18.04 box ?20:42
tgm4883offine installed is the correct answer. Or fix the machine that has no access to a repo20:42
ikoniacreate a local mirror20:42
felixcrawhat do you mean by offline installed?20:42
ikoniaif you're going to keep needing packages20:42
OerHekssee the !offline factoid, posted before20:42
leftyfbfelixcra: gt5 is available in Ubuntu 16.04.20:42
tgm4883!offline | felixcra20:43
ubottufelixcra: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD20:43
felixcraI don't have the hardware to enable internet access on the other machine and I'm in a hurry20:43
a1b2c3d4uuuuuubbbbbuuuuuunnnnnnntttttttuuuuuuuu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu20:43
ikoniaa1b2c3d4: please no20:43
leftyfbfelixcra: regardless of online/offline, do not install packages from 18.04 onto 16.0420:43
a1b2c3d4ikonia are you the muffin man?20:43
ikoniafelixcra: then map out the dependencies and download the packages you need in one go20:43
ikoniaa1b2c3d4: please stop messing around20:43
a1b2c3d4i ♡♡♡♡ pooooooooopooooooooo20:44
lordcirthleftyfb, pretty sure he didn't say he wanted to install them, just download them for the other machine20:44
felixcraubottu thx for the advice. I'll try that quickly20:44
ubottufelixcra: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:44
ioriahe's transferring pakages on 18.0420:44
leftyfb" I need to download 18.04 .debs on a 16.04 machine"20:44
lordcirthleftyfb, download, yes, not install. The 18.04 machine doesn't have internet20:44
ioria'cause he only have a 16.04 box online20:45
leftyfbah20:45
leftyfbfelixcra: can you connect an ethernet calble between the 2 machines?20:46
felixcradid someone of you guys use synaptic for this usecase before?20:46
felixcraleftyfb: my network card does not support that20:46
felixcraalready tried20:46
tgm4883felixcra: yes? It's in the factoid20:46
leftyfbfelixcra: youre network card doesn't support what? An ethernet cable?20:46
ioria!aptoncd | felixcra20:47
ubottufelixcra: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline20:47
tgm4883my network card only supports IP over Wax String20:47
felixcrayeah well just installed aptoncd and from my understanding this just allows my to create an installation medium from packages currently installed on my machine20:50
leftyfbfelixcra: Can you plug an ethernet cable between the 2 machines? Yes or no.20:51
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felixcrayes I can @leftyfb20:51
leftyfbok. If you do that, it's pretty easy to share internet from your 18.04 computer to your 16.04 computer20:51
CountryfiedLinuxhowdy20:52
CountryfiedLinuxI got an error message when trying to launch a snap. 'The command could not be located because '/snap/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.' Any suggestions?20:52
ikoniaput /snap/bin in the PATH varible ?20:53
ikoniaI'd be concerned why it's not there20:53
CountryfiedLinuxikonia, How do I do that?20:54
nekoseamShould turning gufw logging on "high" make it to where your /var/log directory becomes 50+ gb in size?20:54
ikonia$PATH=$PATH:/snap/bin20:54
nekoseamseems a bit extreme20:54
ikoniaoops20:54
ikoniaPATH=$PATH:/snap/bin20:54
leftyfbnekoseam: potentially, yes20:54
ikonianekoseam: depends on your traffic20:54
leftyfbfelixcra: https://www.crookm.com/journal/2018/sharing-wifi-connection-over-ethernet/20:55
blackflownekoseam: sounds plausible. unfortunately the default "log all infractions" mindset of quite a lot of firewalls is simply useless on modern internet. there's quite a lot of.... infractions :)20:57
nekoseamblackflow: yeah it is VERY plausible it happened to me20:59
nekoseamI guess it's my own fault for not fully understanding what high logging meant21:00
nekoseamI thought there'd still be a cap of some sort21:00
nekoseamwith logrotate21:00
ikoniayou can cap it with logrotate21:00
blackflownekoseam: dunno, but logrotate works daily as a cron task. I suppose it's possible to reach 50GB in that timeframe21:00
ikoniabut you have to set the rotation and compression policy21:00
felixcraIt's very nice. I managed to achieve to share my internet connection. I tried it using Windows 10 which is on another partition as 16.04 and I didn't work due to my driver being insufficient. On Ubuntu 16.04 it works. Thank you all for your help guys21:00
nekoseamblackflow: it gradually happened over a week21:01
blackflownekoseam: personally I wouldn't bother. what possible intelligence can ou gather out of 50gb of mostly noise21:01
nekoseamI had a kern.log file over 18gb in size21:01
Squarismi want to become more of a desktop power user. Ie, shell work not primary concern (which i feel i know enough of)21:10
Squarismespecially on chrome21:10
Tyrandiswow there are more people here then the linux mint one lol21:10
Tyrandisjesus christ 1508...21:10
leftyfbSquarism: you might try #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel21:11
Squarismok21:11
leftyfbTyrandis: Do you have a support question?21:11
leftyfbTyrandis: please do not PM21:11
lordcirth!pm21:12
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.21:12
leftyfbTyrandis: highlighting is not PM'ing. I did not PM you.21:12
leftyfbTyrandis: please stop PM'ing21:14
TyrandisLOL21:14
Tyrandisits like i'm going around in circles21:14
lordcirthAre you having trouble figuring out IRC?21:15
leftyfblordcirth: they think being highlighted is PM'ing.21:16
lordcirthYes, I inferred that21:16
leftyfbTyrandis: feel free to join #freenode to ask for help with IRC.21:16
Tyrandisdidn't know... i'm just use to the linux mint irc and its just very quiet over there21:17
leftyfbTyrandis: mine you, we do not support Linux Mint here.21:18
Tyrandisyeah i just wanted to try out something different21:18
lordcirthUbuntu has a lot more users. Did you have an Ubuntu support question?21:18
Tyrandisummm do you know how to change the theme on the hexchat client?21:19
tomreynwhich ubuntu and hexchat version?21:20
Tyrandisyeah that would be great21:20
Tyrandisfor both21:20
tewardTyrandis: which Ubuntu version are you on, and are you using the Snap or the `apt-get` version of HexChat?21:21
Tyrandis16.0421:21
tomreynTyrandis: which point release? lsb_release -ds21:21
Tyrandis16.04.621:22
tomreynand the hexchat version?21:22
OerHekshttps://hexchat.github.io/themes.html ~ https://dl.hexchat.net/themes/21:23
Tyrandis2.10.221:23
tomreyn2.10.2? where did you download that from?21:23
Tyrandisthe ubuntu software client21:24
leftyfbtomreyn: 2.10.2 is the version in Universe in 16.0421:24
tomreynoh right, oops21:24
OerHekscorrect, cosmic gives 2.1421:24
OerHekshttps://launchpad.net/hexchat-irc21:25
Tyrandisbtw does anyone know how to "outo-hite" the toolbar in ubuntu?21:28
Tyrandisauto21:29
Tyrandishide21:29
OerHeksTyrandis, that is a settings in systemsetting, and there is gnome-tweak-tool too21:29
lordcirthTyrandis, Settings > Dock21:30
Tyrandisi cant seem to find dock... i wonder if dock is not on ubuntu 16.04?21:30
OerHeksbut gnome-tweak give other options, and you find gnomeshell extentiosn too ( if installed)21:30
OerHeksi believe these tools should be merged, due to the gnome-shell stuff21:31
leftyfbTyrandis: it's not. The suggestion give to you was for gnome shell in ubuntu 18.0421:31
leftyfbTyrandis: https://askubuntu.com/a/27035521:32
leftyfbTyrandis: please stop PM'ing me21:32
OerHeks16.04 surely has that setting too, appearance - behaviour21:32
leftyfbTyrandis: nobody PM'd you. It's all been in this channel.21:32
Tyrandisquick question... how do you highlight someone because i keep getting confused between that and someone PMing me...21:33
OerHeks!tab21:33
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.21:33
Tyrandisand i'll give that a shot thanks OerHeks21:33
Tyrandisah gotcha thanks21:33
OerHeksjust name us, and we see a highlight21:33
Tyrandisi see21:34
talib[p] /join #ubuntu-offtopic21:38
texlaDell XPS Desktop w/ Ubuntu 18.04  Boots to desktop when I open updates it has error for flashplayer install says to uninstall and reinstall when I close and try to open synaptic the desktop freezes I have to hard close unit21:50
Tyrandisthe theme worked on hexchat... thanks guys :D21:50
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genii!ru asy11821:54
genii!ru| asy11821:54
ubottuasy118: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.21:54
leftyfbpretty sure that was a password21:56
geniiPossibly21:57
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leftyfbasy220: can we help you with something?21:59
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texlaDell XPS Desktop w/ Ubuntu 18.04  Boots to desktop when I open updates it has error for flashplayer install says to uninstall and reinstall when I close and try to open synaptic the desktop freezes I have to hard close unit22:08
OerHekstexla, flashplayer .. on what browser?22:12
texlaOerHeks, I am using ubuntu 18.04 as my only o/s22:15
texlaOerHeks, flash player came with my last update a number of days ago22:17
OerHeksoh, i trew it out, after installing restricted extras22:20
OerHeksanyway, what browser does need that plugin? clear the cache22:21
texlaOerHeks, I use foxfire and cannot do anything at all except see the esktop and icons22:22
OerHeksfoxfire? never heard of that, must be a fork, but mozilla keeps its cache and stuff in ~/mozilla22:25
texlaOerHeks, Sorry misspelling should be mozilla firefox too many finger today22:27
texlaOerHeks, I can go to ctl+alt+f2 do not know what to enter22:29
texlaWell I guess I lost my helper for today see again tomorrow22:41
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Tyrandisquick question... what is the channel for off topic?23:01
leftyfbTyrandis: anything that isn't support related23:02
Tyrandisdo you know any popular ones?23:02
genii!ot23:05
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:05
user|18074hi23:06
pluteshi trying to find the nmap/scripts directory, where about's should it be23:13
tomreyndpkg -L nmap | grep scripts/23:14
OerHeksfind / -name '*.nse'23:14
OerHeksor locate *.nse23:14
pluteswhats dpkg i not used it before, Ive done nmap $PATH , and which nmap,23:15
OerHeksafter adding, run:  nmap --script-updatedb23:15
OerHekshttps://blog.skullsecurity.org/2010/how-to-install-an-nmap-script-223:15
plutesOerHeks, thanks23:17
plutesits it /usr/share/nmap23:17
OerHeksplutes, have fun!23:19
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