[00:03] <palate> Well I don't see it on my network
[00:04] <palate> I guess it doesn't have AMT
[00:04] <palate> Well I'll go by a keyboard tomorrow xD
[00:05] <palate> it is frustrating because I actually do have ssh access to it, but with a system I don't want
[00:06] <palate> some kind of yocto for iot
[00:06] <rbo> skr: I got it working. awesome.
[00:07] <palate> yes all the ports of the link given by tomreyn are closed, I guess it doesn't have amt
[00:08] <leftyfb> palate: you should be looking up your NUC model number and AMT on google and how to possibly enable it
[00:09] <leftyfb> palate: or you could look on craigslist or facebook market for someone giving away or selling a keyboard for next to nothing
[00:09] <tomreyn> palate: also if you're nmap'ing, use -PN, i'm not sure whether they respond to ping.
[00:09] <palate> leftyfb: yeah it's just that it's 1am here and I wanted to do that tonight :D
[00:09] <palate> tomreyn: I did
[00:10] <leftyfb> palate: what model NUC is it?
[00:10] <palate> leftyfb: checking that, I guess I can find it from the serial number
[00:10] <leftyfb> model# not serial
[00:11] <tomreyn> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005804/mini-pcs.html
[00:12] <palate> tomreyn: yes I was there :D
[00:13] <palate> boxnuc7i3bnk
[00:14] <leftyfb> doesn't look like it has AMT
[00:14] <palate> leftyfb: nope :/
[00:15] <palate> well, that's a reason for me to go to bed I guess
[00:15] <palate> Thanks for the insights!!
[00:15] <palate> Good night :)
[00:18] <sudoritz-2837> anyone know a way to bypass a script on ssh login (i tried this () { :; };) but anytime it gives me error  (on some systems i can login) but it prompts me a login to a menu on working system but this one i cant im trying to bypass into shell...
[00:18] <sudoritz-2837>  start-text-view.sh: line 25: [: too many arguments
[00:18] <sudoritz-2837> i tried ssh user@pass 'echo test ; echo again'
[00:20] <tomreyn> sudoritz-2837: you are trying to work around your own forkbomb?
[00:20] <tomreyn> and please dont post such here
[00:20] <OerHeks> *if* that script is in your profile, maybe .. ssh -t hostname "bash --noprofile"
[00:20] <OerHeks> but i guess you don't find a hack
[00:27] <leftyfb> sudoritz-2837: boot into recovery mode and remove the script from your profile
[00:33] <sudoritz-2837> trying to find a way to get off the auto menu script (theres a bug in a certain model aand i cant get to login) i can SCP but i cant even see .profile  or .bashrc not sure much i can do but i was trying to get this going ill probally contact the vendor (its a tripplite)
[00:34] <sudoritz-2837> just trying to remotely reboot it or invoke a way to restart the service
[00:34] <leftyfb> sudoritz-2837: what does this have to do with ubuntu?
[00:35] <leftyfb> sudoritz-2837: contact Tripplite for help with their products. They do not run Ubuntu.
[00:41] <black_13> for some reason when i try to write to .ssh  using ssh-keygen its written to the root .ssh
[00:42] <pragmaticenigma> black_13: Are you running ssk-keygen with sudo?
[01:27] <TabMasher> Hi!  I need some recommendations for image hosting to post links for screen shots please.
[01:28] <OerHeks> imgur.com is nice
[01:44] <miceiken> My PC froze completely and I had to do a hard reboot. Is there any way to figure out what was the cause? It happens quite often.
[01:44] <OerHeks> miceiken, if it happens at random times, do a memtest86 run
[01:45] <miceiken> OerHeks, it's a laptop with quite shitty specs, and froze completely isnt true. It had I/O delay of about 45+ secs (and loss)
[01:47] <OerHeks> maybe put a lightweight desktop on it, like mate/xubuntu?
[01:47] <OerHeks> but hard freeze is unusual
[01:48] <miceiken> OerHeks, yeah, I read something about it might being apparmor constantly blocking
[01:48] <miceiken> but I lost the link
[01:53] <slingamn> i'm getting a weird nginx-related error from apt-get on ubuntu 18.04 server: https://gist.github.com/slingamn/5ba0882a51a7490d6e07c90f7c8cd4c2
[01:54] <OerHeks> you want to remove a standard package.. libx11-6?
[01:54] <tomreyn> miceiken: what was on the logs? dmesg?
[01:54] <slingamn> it's a server
[01:56] <slingamn> is libx11-6 actually a dependency of nginx? in that case, it can't be uninstalled, but this message is very counterintuitive
[01:57] <OerHeks> i think it is a standard desktop package
[01:57] <OerHeks> !info libx11-6
[01:57] <tomreyn> slingamn: post the output of:  sudo /bin/true; nc termbin.com 9999 < <( cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline /etc/os-release; sudo apt-get update -y 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -fsy install 2>&1; )
[02:01] <tomreyn> hmm this doesn't actually work, takes too long.
[02:01] <tomreyn> so just this:  sudo /bin/true; nc termbin.com 9999 < <( cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline /etc/os-release; sudo apt-get update -y 2>&1 )
[02:03] <slingamn> i don't think the kernel version or command-line parameters are relevant; apt-get update -y doesn't do much of interest; apt-get dist-upgrade -y finds nothing to be done
[02:04] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version is it then?
[02:04] <slingamn> oh yeah sorry, this is 18.04.2
[02:04] <tomreyn> amd64?
[02:04] <slingamn> yeah
[02:05] <tomreyn> and apt-cache policy reports what?
[02:05] <tomreyn> i'd be interested in which 3rd party repos you use
[02:05] <tomreyn> or whether there are warnings or errors there or on the "apt-get update" output
[02:06] <slingamn> no warnings or errors, but this is an ovh machine so it could very well be an issue with one of their mirrors: https://gist.github.com/slingamn/0cece3c86342497a4045bd6c97dff2c0
[02:06] <slingamn> (that's apt-cache policy)
[02:06] <slingamn> nothing of interest from apt-get update or apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:08] <tomreyn> does "ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported" list something in the "No longer downloadable:" section?
[02:08] <slingamn> good suggestion, it does
[02:08] <slingamn> quite a lot of stuff actually
[02:09] <slingamn> libapt-inst1.7 libapt-pkg4.16 libbind9-90 libdns-export100 libdns100 libgnutls-deb0-28 libirs-export91 libisc-export95 libisc95 libisccc90 libisccfg-export90 libisccfg90 liblwres90 libprocps3 libxtables10
[02:09] <tomreyn> packages from ubuntu 14.04
[02:09] <slingamn> hilarious
[02:09] <tomreyn> looks like your upgrade wasnt clean
[02:09]  * slingamn removes
[02:09] <slingamn> thanks
[02:10] <tomreyn> https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages may help identify more such remainders
[02:11] <tomreyn> slingamn: did you install this system as 14.04 initially, or was this a "fresh " 18.04 installation?
[02:11] <tomreyn> like an image provided by the host
[02:11] <slingamn> looks like libx11-6 is a hard dependency of nginx on 18.04
[02:12] <slingamn> i have a machine without it, and `apt-get install nginx --no-install-recommends` attempts to install libx11-6 as well
[02:12] <tomreyn> you probably want nginx-light or -core only
[02:12] <slingamn> iiiiinteresting
[02:12] <tomreyn> nginx is a lot more than just a web server
[02:13] <tomreyn> it's a bit like the 90ies AOL app, or netscape communicator ;-)
[02:22] <tomreyn> this said, installing just libx11-6 wont hurt.
[02:34] <slingamn> yeah i ended up just going with the default (i think that's nginx-core), which pulls in a few x11-related libraries
[02:34] <slingamn> thanks
[02:34] <slingamn> i guess that error message is some weird edge case in metapackages
[02:42] <cliff1245> Any suggestions for a free antivirus software?
[02:44] <CyberGhost78> cliff1245, you don't need that with linux
[02:45] <psichas> cliff1245, clamwin
[02:45] <psichas> cliff1245, clamav lol
[02:47] <psichas> CyberGhost78, if you think that for linux doesn't antivirus... you say like if you live by the sea, you dont need wash ... :)
[02:47] <CyberGhost78> well you really don't
[02:47] <CyberGhost78> but if it helps you sleep at night
[02:47] <CyberGhost78> then go ahead
[02:47] <psichas> im talking not apout virus for linux... im talking about dirty files
[02:48] <cliff1245> Thanks, going with clamav.
[02:48] <lhvf> Hi, I'm trying to talk with @jbicha on #ubuntu-gnome, but there nobody is responding at the moment.
[02:48] <CyberGhost78> oic psichas my bad
[02:48] <psichas> clamav doesn't have real protection it just scanne... im using it in windows too...
[02:49] <psichas> best antivirus is your brain cliff1245
[02:49] <lhvf> Is there anyway to accelerate the Debian 10 development, for Buster include GNOME 3.32, which will have Desktop icons on GNOME Shell
[02:49] <lhvf> ?
[02:49] <psichas> rule number one dont trust anyone...
[02:49] <psichas> cliff1245,
[02:51] <Deihmos> What’s a good backup tool Incase things get screwed up and I need to restore
[02:51] <cliff1245> psichas: thanks, I don't have a brain, unfortunately.
[02:52] <psichas> cliff1245, thats ok, just be patieant and you will be smart :)
[02:53] <leftyfb> !ot | lhvf
[02:54] <psichas> my hobby is create malware... so i know that antivirus can't always protect you from malware... but you can safe your pc if you are smart... dont trust anyone... unless opensource programs... :) cl
[02:54] <psichas> cliff1245,
[02:55] <leftyfb> !ot | psichas
[02:56] <cliff1245> psichas: Why are opensource programs safer?
[02:56] <leftyfb> cliff1245: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:57] <psichas> because... you can't hide any malware code
[02:57] <psichas> cliff1245,
[02:57] <leftyfb> psichas: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:57] <cliff1245> leftyfb: Sorry.
[03:11] <UbuntuUser> Hey, I got a weird and ugly problem ... I can't login on TTY 1 and co. As soon as I confirm my username (enter key, CTRL + J or CTRL + M) it loops on seeing enter presses (it shows the password prompt but almost immediatly sees another enter press) and loops until 5 attempts are over.
[03:12] <hydra_> Hello!
[03:12] <UbuntuUser> And my GUI is dead as well. Unity 7 shows my wallpaper and crashes, Ubuntu Gnome Shell seems to time out and crash, Gnome Shell on Wayland doesn't work because nvidia ...
[03:13] <UbuntuUser> Guess I have to fix it using a live system? -.-
[03:13] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser: boot to emergency, enable networking, start the root shell, install the pending updates
[03:14] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser: also, which ubuntu version is this actually?
[03:15] <UbuntuUser> 18.04
[03:15] <tomreyn> ok
[03:16] <shachaf> What is the canonical way to use optical media when not using GNOME or whatever the Ubuntu desktop thing is nowadays?
[03:18] <UbuntuUser> Thanks tomreyn, I'll try that and in the meantime boot my crappy netbook to join the IRC again ...
[03:30] <UbuntuUser> Hmm, got into the rescue mode, internet connection works but it can't resolve hostnames
[03:31] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser: rm /etc/resolv.conf; echo nameserver 1.1.1.1 > /etc/resolv.conf;
[03:31] <tomreyn> should work then
[03:31] <spestov> how do I disable gdm and boot into console mode?
[03:32] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser: be sure to rm /etc/resolv.conf when we're done
[03:33] <UbuntuUser> Ah, right, no nameserver was set m(
[03:33] <spestov> I did 'service gdm stop' and killall Xorg but there's no getty running on the console
[03:34] <tomreyn> spestov: what's the overall goal there, and which uubntu version is this?
[03:34] <spestov> 18.04. I just don't want a gui running
[03:35] <spestov> its kind of buggy inside virtualbox
[03:35] <spestov> and I have no use for it anyway
[03:35] <tomreyn> spestov: i see. normally you'd just press ctrl-alt-f3..12 to switch to a different tty. but i assume you can't do this in virtualbox?
[03:36] <tomreyn> ubuntu 18.04.2 works fine for me in virtualbox btw.
[03:36] <tomreyn> including gnome-shell
[03:36] <spestov> which version of virtualbox?
[03:37] <tomreyn> 6.0.4
[03:44] <UbuntuUser> Yay, I have my desktop back ...
[03:44] <UbuntuUser> Thanks ^^
[03:45] <spestov> tomreyn: I found my answer here -- https://askubuntu.com/questions/859630/how-to-start-ubuntu-in-console-mode
[03:45] <spestov> a lot has changed since I last used linux seriously, with systemd and all
[03:46] <spestov> back in the day most inits were set up so that runlevel 3 was multiuser with no X11
[03:50] <UbuntuUser> But that weird TTY login problem still remains. Any ideas what that could be? I've never seen this before.
[03:55] <lunatikos> hi ! anyone successfully use xbox gamepad with kodi installed with software ?
[03:55] <tomreyn> spestov: yes, systemd changed things a lot. glad you worked it out.
[03:56] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser: which kernel version are oyu running now? cat /proc/version
[03:57] <tomreyn> there was a version which had this issue, but it was since replaced by a newer update.
[03:57] <UbuntuUser> 4.15.0-45
[04:00] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser: that's not the output of: cat /proc/version
[04:01] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser: you can do this if it's less typing: cat /proc/version | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:01] <tomreyn> and then tell me the url it returns
[04:02] <UbuntuUser2> Linux version 4.15.0-45-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-031) (gcc version 7.3.0 (Ubuntu 7.3.0-16ubuntu3)) #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 29 16:28:13 UTC 2019
[04:02] <tomreyn> hmm yeah thats the latest indeed
[04:02] <tomreyn> thanks
[04:03] <tomreyn> and anything else is fully patched?
[04:03] <UbuntuUser2> According to apt, yes.
[04:04] <tomreyn> hmm let me dig up this bug report again
[04:04] <UbuntuUser2> Thanks :)
[04:04] <UbuntuUser2> I tried googling around but couldn’t find anything :/
[04:09] <tomreyn> hmm i thought i had subscribed to it but apparently not
[04:10] <UbuntuUser2> Sadly my Google-Fu wasn't good enough to find something related.
[04:13] <UbuntuUser2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1815342
[04:14] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser2: wohoo, you got it
[04:14] <UbuntuUser2> > This problem is also present with linux-image-4.15.0-45.
[04:14] <UbuntuUser2> So, I guess I just wait for an update.
[04:14] <akit> Hi
[04:15] <tomreyn> right, it's "Fix committed", but it's still not in bionic
[04:15] <tomreyn> i don't know why, need to read up on it.
[04:15] <akit> go PUBG Mobile
[04:15] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser2: but this just means you should do as suggested previously, enable proposed and get the kernel from there
[04:15] <jnewt> trying to use an old laptop, boot stuck at [ OK ] Started Hold until boot process finishes up.  All messages say [ OK ] above that one.  What can I try?
[04:15] <tomreyn> !ot | akit
[04:16] <tomreyn> !proposed | UbuntuUser2
[04:16] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser2: this should explain how to enable "bionic-proposed"
[04:17] <tomreyn> jnewt: which ubuntu version are oyu running on it?
[04:17] <UbuntuUser2> Since I now know how to fix my system using the recovery mode I can also just wait for the kernel patch to be rolled out ;) Thank you, have a nice day. :)
[04:18] <UbuntuUser2> Eh, what just happened. I quit irssi and my Lubuntu netbook shut down. haha
[04:19] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser2: :-/
[04:19] <tomreyn> as in instant power off?
[04:19] <[RobDude]> Can anyone help me with a /etc/fstab issue?  I'm trying to get my system to 'automount' both a harddrive partition and a network (nas) location.  I've added the lines to my /etc/fstab file and when I run 'sudo mount -a' both work.  However, when I reboot, only the partition is mounted correctly, the NAS doesn't appear.  File is at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3s3Mmq4mvh/
[04:20] <UbuntuUser2> Nope, for a split second a window, probably the shutdown menu, popped up :D
[04:21] <jnewt> tomreyn  i dont remember what is on it, at least a few months if not a year since ive used it
[04:23] <tomreyn> jnewt: reboot to recovery, enable networking, tell whether this succeded without errors, then enter the root shell
[04:23] <tomreyn> !recovery | jnewt
[04:24] <tomreyn> [RobDude]: whats your ubuntu version?
[04:24] <[RobDude]> 18.04
[04:26] <tomreyn> [RobDude]: do you have an error about it in your journal?
[04:26] <tomreyn> i.e. does this show anything about it?  journalctl -b -p4
[04:27] <[RobDude]> Thanks - I'm afraid I'm still quite new to Ubuntu and Linux in general.  Let me take a look.
[04:27] <jnewt> ok, version is 18.04.1 LTS
[04:30] <[RobDude]> Oh this great - thank you.  Yes the mounting failed.  It looks like "media-nas.mount: failed with result 'exit-code'" and then it says "Dependency failed for Remote File Systems"
[04:32] <jnewt> i chose root from the menu and am stuck at Started Stop ureadaheaddata collection
[04:32] <tomreyn> [RobDude]: add ,x-systemd.automount to the end of the "<options>" column on the nas mount ( line 3 of https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3s3Mmq4mvh/ )
[04:33] <tomreyn> jnewt: so this was after you enabled networking?
[04:35] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser2: well i guess it's all fine then, it seems to have shut down gracefully.
[04:35] <jnewt> nm,
[04:36] <jnewt> bunch of errors when enabling networking.
[04:36] <UbuntuUser2> Yeah, it did. Was just weird to see it shut down after `/quit`. I’ll just assume that it somehow registered a touch of the power button :^)
[04:37] <jnewt> its broken
[04:37] <tomreyn> jnewt: "bunch of errors" and "it's broken" don't enable me to support you, i'm afraid. i suspect your / file system has run full.
[04:38] <tomreyn> jnewt: there is an option on the recovery menu to clean up things. i forgot the exact name, but give this a try.
[04:38] <[RobDude]> tomreyn:  thank you so much.  That worked amazingly well.
[04:38] <tomreyn> jnewt: that is, after a reboot
[04:39] <tomreyn> [RobDude]: very well.
[04:39] <UbuntuUser2> Btw. are there statistics on how many Ubuntu desktops still use Unity 7? For me the Gnome Shell is “unusable”. Even after fiddling around with it for days and customizing it’s just unpleasant to use. Went back to Unity 7 real quick, eh.
[04:40] <tomreyn> [RobDude]: is your system fully patched? this is a rather old bug, i had hoped this to no longer affect ubuntu 18.04.2
[04:40] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser2: i don't have any, and wouldn't know how to get them, i'm afraid.
[04:41] <jnewt> tomreyn, hard on phone.  https://drive.google.com/file/d/16EVhXgK0Qmk8GTiQ2VPJepMLf17snJne/view?usp=drivesdk  will rebbot for clean,  can you see link?
[04:42] <tomreyn> UbuntuUser2: there is https://popcon.ubuntu.com/ but last time i looked at it the data was outdated. and i think it is also being replaced by ubuntu's new telemetry
[04:43] <tomreyn> jnewt: yes, i can look at https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XK4TbFqFGncs4bSur8YtZ5256_dgSunksbZsSebA4vW5A5UUOyv-TJ8itbWeDngU4lVXKzdUUNof1g
[04:44] <UbuntuUser2> I’m just glad that I could reset Unity / compiz in the rescue mode.
[04:44] <tomreyn> jnewt: so all of these failed services are network related. that's less of an issue if the rest works fine.
[04:44] <UbuntuUser2> My system is a root on ZFS system, so using a live system always means taking extra steps. :x
[04:45] <jnewt> clean fails with errors about full disk.
[04:45] <tomreyn> jnewt: all but two, that is. the second message is about the system failing to write logs to the disk. this can be if / is mounted read-only, which is by default during early boot.
[04:46] <devnullicuz> hello e1, can someone tell me if there is a way to interface with an old ipod from within ubuntu (vanilla) 18.04
[04:46] <devnullicuz> just want to add songs to the thing for my dad
[04:46] <tomreyn> oh, okay, so i guess i was right then, your / has run full. if you reboot and start the root console without starting networking first, what happens then?
[04:46] <tomreyn> jnewt: ^
[04:47] <devnullicuz> windows is doing my head in for the last five minutes of spazzing out; lol it been a long time since i had to fire up a windows machine and im so glad i switched
[04:49] <devnullicuz> found a fix with google, so no need to help =)
[04:51] <BoyLover420> hello fellas... i would like to acquire the knowledge necessary to implement the operating system known as Ubuntu onto my personal computer. My mother has strongly advised me to install said Operating System, rather than use Windows, or as she calls it, Windoze. Haha very Funny joke :) So I am not very good with Personal Computers pretty much... an
[04:51] <BoyLover420> d... well... my MOther recently took a trip to Italy so I cannot get in touch with her right now unfortunately... Was thinking I could Get some help in this Channel?
[04:52] <tomreyn> BoyLover420: yes, we do freelance ubuntu support here
[04:53] <bobdobbs> In the libreoffice spreadsheet application, how do I export a single tab to it's own csv file?
[04:53] <tomreyn> BoyLover420: oops i meant to say we do volunteer support here
[04:53] <jnewt> tomreyn.  some depend and time errors, thens stop unreadahead data collection.  hit enter gets me a prompt
[04:53] <tomreyn> jnewt: good! now does "df -h /" confirm it's 100% full?
[04:54] <tomreyn> df = disk free
[04:54] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: i was thinking that's what the save as or export option does, does it save one file per tab then?
[04:55] <jnewt> tomreyn yes it does
[04:56] <tomreyn> jnewt: type this: does it give the same output when you do "df -h /boot" ?
[04:56] <jnewt> yes
[04:57] <tomreyn> what'S the output of :   ls -1 /boot/initrd.img* |wc -l
[04:58] <tomreyn> the first argument to 'ls' is a ONE
[04:58] <jnewt> 2
[04:58] <tomreyn> the first to wc is an L
[04:58] <bobdobbs> tomreyn: as far as I can figure out 'save' saves the entire document. 'export' saves the document in another format, like html, png or pdf.
[04:58] <jnewt> oh
[04:58] <tomreyn> jnewt: actually if you did ls with an L thats fine, too
[04:58] <jnewt> 2
[04:59] <tomreyn> jnewt: can you do this: apt-cache clean
[04:59] <tomreyn> any errors?
[05:00] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: hmm, ok. le tme try quickly
[05:00] <jnewt> invalid operation clean
[05:00] <bobdobbs> k
[05:02] <UbuntuUser2> Thanks again, bye.
[05:03] <tomreyn> jnewt: sorry it's: apt-get clean
[05:04] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: so it's file -> save a copy -> navigate to where to save and type a filename with .csv extension
[05:04] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: in the very end it will tell you that it only saved the currently active sheet
[05:05] <tomreyn> which is indeed what it does.
[05:05] <jnewt> ro file system errors.   thought it asked to make rw though!
[05:07] <jnewt> ok, remounted and ran
[05:08] <tomreyn> so you remounted rw?
[05:09] <jnewt> yeah
[05:09] <jnewt> and it ran the clean, but df still showa 100%
[05:11] <tomreyn> jnewt: anything here?   ls /var/crash
[05:12] <jnewt> nope
[05:12] <bobdobbs> tomreyn: thank you :)
[05:13] <tomreyn> jnewt: this finds files larger than 100 MB on / (but don't just delete them!):  find / -xdev -type f -size +100M
[05:14] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: you're welcome!
[05:15] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: does this find things you know should not be installed?
[05:15] <tomreyn> oops not you ;-)
[05:15] <tomreyn> jnewt: does this find things you know should not be installed?
[05:18] <jnewt> tomreyn, two 3rd party installer scripts show up, one in  trash, other in. cache
[05:18] <tomreyn> jnewt: what's the output of:   journalctl --disk-usage
[05:20] <jnewt> removed both, now at 92%
[05:20] <tomreyn> jnewt: how much is this in MB?
[05:20] <tomreyn> or GB
[05:20] <jnewt> truncated ignoring file on that journal
[05:21] <jnewt> 10G
[05:21] <tomreyn> jnewt: 10G for the journal thing?
[05:22] <jnewt> disk is 10G.  files were 400+M
[05:22] <jnewt> journal 664.3M
[05:22] <tomreyn> oh you only have 10 GB for a desktop ubuntu installation?
[05:23] <tomreyn> that's not really enough, i guess, unless you run basically nothing.
[05:23] <tomreyn> for a simple server it could be enough
[05:24] <jnewt> sharing disk with old xp install i have for legacy software, can maybe reallocate some
[05:25] <jnewt> think i can boot now with 92%?
[05:25] <tomreyn> XP is end of life, you shouldn't run this on any networked system nowadays.
[05:25] <tomreyn> you can convert it into a VM running under ubuntu.
[05:26] <tomreyn> yes, you should be able to reboot
[05:26] <tomreyn> but this issue will reoccur, probably as soon as you install the pending updates
[05:27] <tomreyn> you, or the system itself, automatically, that is
[05:33] <tomreyn> jnewt: did you read the above?
[05:33] <jnewt> yes
[05:33] <tomreyn> good, glad i could help.
[05:34] <jnewt> looking at some repartitioning first, then a vbox install and figure out how to move the xp to vbox
[05:36] <jnewt> i dont like that i cant boot if the disk is fulll.  seems like that should not be allowed to happen
[05:37] <jnewt> thanks btw.  i probably would have wiped it out and tried again
[05:37] <tomreyn> it wont happen if you give your root partition sufficient space, and put your /home on a separate file system
[05:38] <jnewt> what is the min sufficient space?
[05:39] <tomreyn> in the end it dpeends on the amount of software you install, and how large that is. but somewhere between 15 and 20 is probably fine
[05:39] <tomreyn> 25-30 GB if you have a lot of large applications installed, i guess
[05:40] <tomreyn> these numbers do not include /home
[05:42] <devnullbecause> can anyone give me a hand to get some music onto an old ipod (first version released) ive tried rhythembox not having anyluck dragging and dropping from file browser(external usb) to ipod(rhythombox)
[05:42] <devnullbecause> have reset pc numerous times
[05:50] <MilkmanDan> Anyone have an account on Ubuntuforums and can pastebin a file for me please?
[05:50] <MilkmanDan> https://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?s=5cd0c6e04a427e2a8088d19666a0c3e3&attachmentid=186077&d=1300154313
[05:51] <wyseguy> if i want 10 people to be able to connect to a server running ubuntu and have a desktop experience would i just install ubuntu desktop and create 10 different user accounts?
[05:51] <wyseguy> and they could all log in at the same time?
[05:51] <MilkmanDan> I don't want to make an account I'll only use once just to look at a 621 byte file....
[05:52] <MilkmanDan> wyseguy: Log in how?  Via their own keyboard/mouse/monitor?
[06:00] <wyseguy> MilkmanDan yes
[06:00] <wyseguy> they have dell wyse thin clients, not sure if those can remote into a ubuntu server
[06:01] <MilkmanDan> Oh, hah, WYSE guy...
[06:01] <devnullbecause>  can anyone give me a hand to get some music onto an old ipod from inside ubuntu 18.04 please
[06:01] <MilkmanDan> Ok, now I get it.
[06:01] <MilkmanDan> You need to figure out what those are capable of.  If they can do VNC you're golden.
[06:02] <MilkmanDan> I imagine they can do RDP and I know Linux client support is trivial, but I've never looked into serving it.
[06:02] <MilkmanDan> There's a thing called the Linux Terminal Server Project that might have info on Wyse thin clients.
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> devnullbecause: clementine can sync with ipods
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !ipod | devnullbecause see also
[06:13] <wyseguy> MilkmanDan thanks, ill look that up
[06:14] <wyseguy> not sure about vpn, I know these are the windows embeded thin clients, i have others that have thinos on them too
[06:15] <wyseguy> i mean vnc not vpn
[06:16] <wyseguy> ah found it ltsp
[06:21] <md_5> tomreyn lol beat me to it
[06:23] <tomreyn> md_5: like a mother giving birth, i got those waves lately, and the intervals are getting shorter. but i don't want to see the child.
[06:24] <md_5> poetic
[06:28] <Sefid_par> Hello. I need information about smtp configurations. I feel don't understand smtp!
[06:31] <yvyz> Is it an ubuntu problem?
[07:25] <LEYEVA_> heluuu
[07:25] <LEYEVA_> anyone here to talk with?
[07:31] <rockstar_> hi, my ubuntu started to freeze often and its quite random. Can someone help me?
[07:41] <B1ack0p> hi
[07:42] <B1ack0p> can somebody advise me where can i find this wallpaper in suru icon theme? https://snwh.org/suru
[07:42] <B1ack0p> minimal space theme
[07:42] <B1ack0p> sorry minimal space wallpaper
[07:45] <B1ack0p> ok found it
[07:50] <Tankburn> good day
[07:51] <k_sze> hi guys
[07:51] <B1ack0p> hi dudes
[07:52] <k_sze> Firefox is being stupid and making my machine unresponsive (it seems to be swapping heavily and I can't even make the mouse cursor move). What can I do to kill Firefox quickly? I'm hesitant to force shutdown the computer because I have full disk encryption.
[07:54] <k_sze> The situation is so bad that I can't even get the TTY by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F3
[07:55] <melfy> disable swap and let it crash itself lol
[07:55] <melfy> how much ram you have?
[07:55] <k_sze> yes, but how do I disable swap when the desktop doesn't respond and I can't even get to the text terminal?
[07:56] <k_sze> Is there a shortcut with high priority that will bring every user space process to a halt?
[07:56] <k_sze> I mean keyboard combo.
[07:56] <melfy> can make a shortcut to run firefox under nice so it's deprioritized
[07:56] <ducasse> !reisub | k_sze
[07:58] <k_sze> ducasse: thanks!
[08:02] <k_sze> ducasse: how long am I supposed to have to wait between keypresses?
[08:03] <ducasse> k_sze: a second or two, maybe
[08:04] <Pavel_Vasilev> hello!
[08:04] <k_sze> seems to work! Thanks!
[08:05] <ducasse> k_sze: yw :)
[08:05] <ducasse> !pm | Pavel_Vasilev
[08:05] <melfy> feel like thats gonna end up on a post it on his screen
[08:17] <knightling> hi
[08:20] <badSophia> how can i install crome on ubuntu?
[08:22] <WalterWhite> badSophia: chrome or crome?
[08:22] <badSophia> chrome 8)
[08:22] <badSophia> my mistake
[08:23] <knightling> you can use chromium from the store
[08:24] <ducasse> badSophia: download the package from google and install it, or use chromium
[08:24] <knightling> I think chromium is the better choise
[08:24] <WalterWhite> Chromium for the win,
[08:24] <badSophia> ah i don’t need to use apt or apt-get?
[08:25] <WalterWhite> No reason to cater to google unless you want more of your info and activity tracked.
[08:25] <knightling> no you can go in the ubunutu-software store and serch for chromium
[08:25] <badSophia> thanks
[08:25] <knightling> np
[08:27] <badSophia> anyway can i install no-ads on firefox?
[08:27] <bruhbruh> ublock origin?
[08:28] <badSophia> no ads
[08:28] <elias_a> badSophia: What is that?
[08:29] <bruhbruh> was just about to ask
[08:29] <badSophia> oh
[08:29] <badSophia> adblock
[08:30] <badSophia> 8)
[08:30] <bruhbruh> yeah you can
[08:30] <WalterWhite> adblock plus
[08:32] <bruhbruh> type this in your url
[08:33] <bruhbruh> about:addons
[08:33] <badSophia> ah thanks
[08:33] <bruhbruh> and search for "adblock"
[08:33] <bruhbruh> you most likely need "adblock plus"
[08:34] <badSophia> thanks bruhbruh :)
[08:34] <badSophia> i installed adblock plus :)
[08:38] <bruhbruh> no probs
[08:44] <absence> after a normal software update (apt-get upgrade), i just get a black screen after logging in from gdm. ubuntu 18.10, laptop with intel uhd 620. using an older kernel doesn't change things. how can i fix this?
[08:49] <allure> Hey guys... trying to identify a network issue that started occurring a few weeks ago. Some of our users started complaining that they had no internet. Whenever I switched them to another ethernet port on the wall they would get internet back. But now a good number of those ports will not work and they won't get an IP. I get a perfect signal on the cable (I tested them with cable testers), so I think it is
[08:49] <allure> our DHCPd server acting up. I've been looking through the logs but I am not finding anything interesting. I am also using dhcpdump, but I have no idea what to look for in there.
[08:50] <Ouyes> allure, when you saying a good number, some of our user? give us a rough number.
[08:51] <allure> Ouyes: around 10-12%
[08:51] <allure> about... 8 users now
[08:51] <allure> everyday there is one or two new cases
[08:52] <Ouyes> allure, well, what do you mean by no internet? no connection or no access to website?
[08:52] <allure> Ouyes: they don't get an IP/DNS, so DHCP is not giving them anything
[08:52] <allure> but it works for most people, that is where I am puzzled
[08:52] <Ouyes> allure, you think it is hardware or software?
[08:53] <allure> Ouyes: I think it is software. We even have new switches and the problem persists...
[08:53] <allure> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xBzCHbfYzg/
[08:53] <allure> here are some logs for the dhcpd
[08:53] <Ouyes> allure, so dhcp server have enough address to assign?
[08:53] <WalterWhite> allure: did you check to see what the network status is?  ie. IP, DNS, Gateway, of the clients having problems?
[08:54] <allure> Ouyes: I imagine so... I will double check as I am not sure how many wireless connections we get
[08:54] <allure> WalterWhite: they get a 169 address only
[08:55] <Ouyes> allure, these users are using wireless? but you said switched them to another port?
[08:56] <Ouyes> allure, they get offline all of a sudden, or when they boot in and the host can not get a IP assigned by dhcp?
[08:57] <allure> Ouyes: only devices connected to ethernet ports are having issues
[08:58] <allure> Ouyes: when they reboot, they dont get a connection back
[08:58] <allure> Ouyes: for laptops, it also happens when they arrive from another location and connect to their dock
[08:58] <Ouyes> allure, wireless device usually won't be able to keep a lot of clients at the same time for very long especially when you get a cheap one
[08:58] <allure> at least for laptops they can use wireless instead
[08:58] <allure> Ouyes: I understand, but the issue only happens on ethernet ports
[08:59] <allure> devices connected to ethernet
[08:59] <Ouyes> allure, I see, give me a few secs
[08:59] <WalterWhite> allure: Have you considered setting static IP/DNS/Gateways for the hardlined clients, and bypassing DHCP altogether?
[08:59] <WalterWhite> Not a solution, but a possible work around if nothing else.
[09:00] <allure> WalterWhite: yes, but as they are far away from my desk, I could not find an unused IP, so I have not tried that
[09:00] <allure> I guess I have to try it to be sure...
[09:01] <WalterWhite> allure: ALL your local IP addresses are used?
[09:01] <allure> WalterWhite: that is what I am checking right now with fping, but it seems that is not the case
[09:01] <WalterWhite> I mean, you check your router and they're all leased by DHCP?
[09:02] <shresth> hey,guys !!
[09:02] <allure> WalterWhite: I am checking /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases to see if they are all busy
[09:02] <allure> but I dont think they are so far
[09:03] <melfy> allure: what switch you got?
[09:03] <WalterWhite> allure: Is your problem a personal matter, or a commercial matter. (ie, this is happening at home, or it;s happening at work?)
[09:03] <melfy> its def work :P
[09:04] <shresth> Ubuntu vs Elementary os ??
[09:04] <WalterWhite> lol, if it's work, and troubleshooting in IRC, you might want to look for another job soon.
[09:04] <melfy> ^
[09:04] <Ouyes> allure, make sure the port these guys are using to  connect to other device is in full duplex.
[09:05] <Ouyes> allure, if it is always the same group of people gets forced off-line?
[09:07] <Ouyes> WalterWhite, so IRC is not the place to fix problems at work?
[09:09] <WalterWhite> Ouyes: I'd say that if you're supposed to be a network admin, you should know your stuff already, yeah.
[09:10] <allure> Ouyes: usually, yes, but I got two new since yesterday... same people
[09:10] <allure> Ouyes: I will check if it is full duplex
[09:11] <Ouyes> allure, based on current information, I would imagine it is always the same group of people gets offline all of a sudden when accessing internet normally, I would say this group of people are connected to a switch and this switch connect to a router, so you need to check if both ports match duplex.
[09:13] <melfy> all modern switches have fallback full duplex or not
[09:14] <allure> Ouyes: I will check that :)
[09:19] <glitchd> having an odd problem on a clean install of 18.04.2, when i switch to a tty i enter my login name, and it simultaneously enters a blank password. of course the password is rejected and i am unable to log in.
[09:22] <tanaphor-work> nin
[09:22] <tanaphor-work> oops
[09:24] <allure> Ouyes: full duplex, also setting up a manual IP did not help
[09:25] <allure> Ouyes: I am now having issues connecting to the switch, so it is now the first suspect
[09:25] <allure> since about 20 people are on a conference room right now, I cannot restart the switch yet :/
[09:27] <WalterWhite> So far, how is this an Ubuntu problem?
[09:27] <allure> WalterWhite: thank you for your help.
[09:27] <allure> I suspected it was dhcpd, that is why I came here for help
[09:28] <allure> and I am not sorry that now it seems it is not
[09:28] <WalterWhite> allure: I see.
[09:28] <allure> If you do not want to help, you can carry on with your life. Thank you for the help you gave so far.
[09:29] <WalterWhite> Attempting to stay on topic is all.
[09:33] <allure> Alright... thank you.
[09:45] <allure> Ouyes: I think something else is serving dhcp. I stopped isc-dhcpd-server and people are still getting IPs somehow
[09:46] <allure> it is changing every 5 seconds. They say "I have an IP.... aaaaand... now I dont.... aaaaand... now I do" haha
[09:49] <EriC^^> commitment issues
[09:49] <EriC^^> sudo dns-therapy
[09:50] <EriC^^> j/k
[10:01] <baako> hi guys, just install 18.10 on dual boots on windows 10 lenovo thinkpad 52s. It keep crashing. freezes for hours
[10:01] <WalterWhite> More than one DHCPd on the network somewhere, serving IP addresses?
[10:02] <baako> is 18.10 not stable?
[10:03] <WalterWhite> baako: At which stage of your boot process does it "crash/freeze"?
[10:04] <baako> WalterWhite, I log in okay. then when I click on an icon like firefox, it crashes
[10:04] <baako> thats as far as I can go with it
[10:05] <WalterWhite> baako: Did you do a fresh install, or an upgrade to 18.10?
[10:05] <baako> i just install in about 25 hours ago
[10:06] <baako> I get about 2 clicks and it crashes
[10:07] <WalterWhite> baako: So you installed ubuntu to the machine, for the very first time, to dual-boot with Win10?
[10:07] <baako> WalterWhite, yep
[10:08] <WalterWhite> baako: Does it freeze on other ubuntu apps, or just Firefox so far?
[10:11] <B1ack0p> hi.
[10:11] <B1ack0p> when i check /usr/shared/applications folder i realised some of the applications are duplicated even triplicated
[10:12] <B1ack0p> why is that so and how can i get rid of duplicates?
[10:12] <B1ack0p> https://imgur.com/a/Kl6cBXY
[10:12] <B1ack0p> https://imgur.com/a/v2IHy94
[10:13] <baako>  WalterWhite everything
[10:13] <B1ack0p> in first image you will see Archieve MAnager 2, Disk image writer is 2 , files 3 ,
[10:14] <baako> cant even get pass the first widget which asks u to help improve ubuntu but giving system report
[10:43] <ygk_12345> hi all
[10:43] <mikisid> hi
[10:44] <ygk_12345> i have ubuntu 18 and installed apache2 on it. I cant access the custom html pages in the /var/ww/html pages outside of that server.
[10:44] <ygk_12345> i can access them from within the server though but not outside   of it
[10:45] <ygk_12345> any idea anyone ?
[10:48] <ygk_12345> i am seeing 404 not found
[10:48] <antanoz> Hi. Should I install the LibreOffice snap or Debian package? Which one is the best maintained one?
[10:49] <ygk_12345> but I can access the pages from within the server using wget but from the browser outside i can only access the default page not other html pages
[10:49] <ygk_12345> can anyone help me please
[10:51] <antanoz> I see the LibreOffice snap is maintained by Canonical, which makes me think that the snap should be preferred...
[10:52] <bazhang> !snappy | antanoz
[10:52] <ammaro0> salut
[10:52] <ammaro0> cav a?
[10:53] <EriC^^> !fr | ammaro0
[10:53] <zeekhuge[m]> Hi ! Is there a way I could make the 'root' un reachable even when the user has the physical machine with himself ?
[10:53] <bazhang> try #snappy antanoz
[10:54] <zeekhuge[m]> and reachable only by me, say through a key, when I need it ?
[10:55] <EriC^^> zeekhuge[m]: you could give the user a normal account without sudo, but with physical access he can always get root by using grub kernel parameters and/or a live usb
[10:55] <EriC^^> zeekhuge[m]: most easily by using the recovery menu in grub, setting a root password should remove that option
[10:57] <EriC^^> zeekhuge[m]: if you absolutely dont want root you could use disk encryption (luks) but then the user can't boot by himself without knowing the key for decryption, unless you feed it somehow, then he can know it depending on how much experience he has
[10:57] <zeekhuge[m]> EriC^^: Yeah. Thats the case actually. I want to prevent even through grub and live usb. How about making system un-bootable without a key. Something maybe we can do by encrypting the system ?
[10:57] <zeekhuge[m]> Yes !
[10:57] <WalterWhite> Volume encryption perhaps?
[10:58] <EriC^^> zeekhuge[m]: i guess luks + you manually enter the key for him
[10:58] <WalterWhite> So grub and live USB can't be used.
[10:59] <zeekhuge[m]> So volume encryption works. But then, I would not want to manually enter the key each time. Can it be configured to ask a key from a system in local network and if the key is given, then boot up ?
[10:59] <EriC^^> also make sure the right stuff is being booted from the BIOS, since then the weak point would be putting a different boot and tricking the superuser to entering the key
[11:00] <WalterWhite> ^^ That too.
[11:00] <EriC^^> zeekhuge[m]: that's above my paygrade, maybe, i know you can enter it in plaintext somewhere, dont know about requesting from local network though, maybe
[11:03] <zeekhuge[m]> okay. Can I test this stuff on VirtualBox ? or will need a real machine ?
[11:03] <WalterWhite> zeekhuge[m]: Think about a hypervisor?
[11:04] <WalterWhite> lol zeekhuge[m] I was just typing that.  A hypervisor or even a host/guest VM, but you'd get less overhead with a hypervisor and better security.
[11:05] <zeekhuge[m]> WalterWhite: Oh ! okay. Yeah that first message confused me for a bit.
[11:05] <WalterWhite> zeekhuge[m]: You can and should use a VM to fiddle around with such things.  :)
[11:06] <cim209> dockerize everything!
[11:06] <zeekhuge[m]> cim209: The only thing I dont like about docker is, that it can create vulnerabilities, since the user is same.
[11:07] <WalterWhite> vmware is my personal favorite, and well worth the buy, but virtualbox can also suffice.
[11:07] <cim209> zeekhuge[m]: it's best practice to set the permission of a container's volume to a non-privilege user
[11:08] <zeekhuge[m]> WalterWhite: Thanks. Now, I want to understand a bit more how it works. So, it looks like the encryption is over the kernel image and the other files. And if that is the case, then only the BIOS will start up and then ask for the key. Is that right ??
[11:09] <zeekhuge[m]> If that is true, then I think there wouldnt be any already-available way to do the local-network-request-for-key thing .
[11:10] <WalterWhite> zeekhuge[m]: Yes, but only if the bios accepts an admin password, and a boot password for regular users.
[11:11] <zeekhuge[m]> didnt get that part
[11:11] <zeekhuge[m]> BIOS has an admin password ?
[11:12] <zeekhuge[m]> BIOS as in GRUB right ? I remember I had entered into its root without needing any password.
[11:12] <zeekhuge[m]> so what admin/user password ?
[11:12] <WalterWhite> Yes.  Some have a password for modifying the bios, and another password for guests, just to login to the machine.
[11:13] <WalterWhite> You have to set the passwords for them to take effect.
[11:14] <WalterWhite> zeekhuge[m]: Most machines have a button to press at POST time to access the BIOS setup...
[11:15] <WalterWhite> Like <del> <F1> <F12>, etc...  Depending on the BIOS.
[11:15] <WalterWhite> Anyway, I've strayed off topic.  Sorry.
[11:15] <zeekhuge[m]> Ah, Yeah. But I am still confused. I'll probably read this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption) first and then get back here .
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:20] <Falc> Hello, I'm trying to do an expert install (priority=low), using the ubuntu-18.04.02-server.iso, using UEFI. In other words, at boot I have a black screen to select what install I want and I do know I need to hit 'e' to edit the boot command, but it's not clear where in that command I need to put the 'priority=low'...
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Falc: come join to #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers
[11:21] <Falc> aha, thanks
[11:24] <Tankburn> Hello
[11:28] <gde33> does gedit have a channel? I'm trying to match \n\n but it cant find it
[11:31] <SimonNL> #gedit    1 user   gedit developers can be found on #gedit on irc.gnome.org || gedit users on FreeBSD should use #freebsd-gnome here on FreeNode     gde33
[11:32] <SimonNL> ircs://irc.gnome.org/#gedit right click choose connect.   might work gde33
[11:32] <gde33> tyvm
[11:38] <B1ack0p> hi. is it safe to use bleachbit as root?
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> B1ack0p: yes there's a launcher for both root or non-root
[11:42] <B1ack0p> thx lotuspsychje
[11:42] <B1ack0p> how can i remove python2 as i have already python3?
[11:43] <WalterWhite> B1ack0p: Definitely a good idea to clean up a lot of unneeded files, like unused language files, etc..
[11:44] <blackflow> B1ack0p: if nothing needs it, you can `apt remove python`. but note that having python3 does not obsolete having 2.x, as many packages still depend on 2.x only
[11:45] <WalterWhite> B1ack0p: Try using Synaptic, and enter "python" and select uninstall/remove.
[11:46] <WalterWhite> But like blackflow mentioned, you might run into a python 2 program you want to use.
[11:48] <WalterWhite> Or some software that makes use of Python 2.
[11:48] <WalterWhite> For example HexChat comes to mind, I think.
[11:49] <B1ack0p> i made something :S
[11:50] <B1ack0p> i was using FSling Janitor
[11:50] <B1ack0p> i think it deleted default theme
[11:50] <B1ack0p> now i cant get back ubuntu default theme and icons
[11:50] <melfy> just change your environment path to py3
[11:50] <B1ack0p> how can i fix it?
[11:52] <melfy> update-rc.d?
[11:53] <melfy> idk :(
[11:53] <B1ack0p> :/
[11:53] <B1ack0p> let me reboot
[11:53] <B1ack0p> brb
[12:01] <B1ack0p> ok fixed desktop and theme
[12:01] <B1ack0p> now i have another problem : ubuntu 18.04 failed to start process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled. see 'systemctl status apport-autoreport.service' for details
[12:01] <B1ack0p> i am getting this error at startup
[12:03] <qwebirc86905> Hi all
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> welcome qwebirc86905 how can we help you?
[12:05] <keiserr> hi ecryptsfs question. I was on 16.04, i recently moved to 18.04, long story short, the installer seems to have disabled my encryption. Good, searched, and checked back here, i found that there was an issue with ecryptfs then.
[12:05] <qwebirc86905> Hi all
[12:05] <keiserr> But now that bug seems resolved, am trying to encrypt it again, but it says that my home directory is already encrypted, I see that there is a .private and a .ecryptfs folder in my home dir.
[12:06] <keiserr> I am unsure, whether i sohuld delete those to start the encryption or not. Also, does encryption take a long time? or can it finish within hours?
[12:06] <blackflow> melfy: if you were suggesting to change the `python` to python3, that's a very bad advice. `python` must be 2.x until it's EOL'd and a new PEP defines it diferently.
[12:06] <qwebirc86905> I have gotten stuck in a login loop in 18.04. I have found help online to enter into the terminal login screen, but when I type my username and hit enter, it displays the password prompt, then jumps onto the next line (as if I pressed enter without a password) and complains about incorrect login details
[12:07] <qwebirc86905> Not really sure what to do...
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[12:09] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: AMD Radeon 530 Graphics 4GB
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: fresh install or upgrade?
[12:11] <keiserr> nevermind figured ou the ecryptfs thingy. did an unmount, then deleted, then proceeded again.
[12:11] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: neither. Been using it since middle of last year. And been performing all my updates when it asks
[12:11] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: when I installed it middle of last year, though, it was a fresh install of 18.04
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: ok tnx, lets try to boot a previous kernel first
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: do you know howto?
[12:12] <qwebirc86905> sure
[12:12] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: no idea, but if you send me a help link I can follow the steps
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: hold shift at boot to enter grub, then choose ubuntu previous kernel from there
[12:13] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: one sec
[12:15] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: my options are 4.15.0-45-generic (current) and recovery mode as well as 4.15.0.43-generic and recovery mode
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: lets try a -43 for example
[12:16] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: tried the -43 (not the recovery one) and still loged in and back out again to login page
[12:16] <B1ack0p> ok fixed everything
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: allright, lets try nomodeset
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | qwebirc86905
[12:17] <B1ack0p> when autoreport is on it gives error, when it is set to manual it doesnt give error. i think it is a bug
[12:17] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: but this time it the terminal it lets me enter a password
[12:18] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: trying nomodeset now
[12:19] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: oh wait I logged in. Must I do the "$mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.bak" that is mentioned on helps or must I log in with nomodeset?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: that was going to be our next step: https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-ubuntu-login-loop/
[12:20] <absence> after a normal software update (apt-get upgrade), i just get a black screen after logging in from gdm. ubuntu 18.10, laptop with intel uhd 620. using an older kernel doesn't change things, but if i choose "ubuntu in wayland" it works, but seems a bit glitchy. how can i get the default login working again?
[12:20] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: ok following your link and will get back to you
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> absence: wich kernel are you on currently?
[12:23] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: the file Xauthority does not exist
[12:25] <dan01> Is it just me or does Eclipse look really ugly on Ubuntu and Linux in general. I've found lot of posts and bug reports about this in general. Widgets are just too big leaving virtually very little space for the text itself, borders are also very large.
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> dan01: if you find a bug on a package in ubuntu, please file a new !bug
[12:28] <absence> lotuspsychje: 4.18.0-5, also tried 4.18.0-4 from the boot menu
[12:28] <Falc> dan01: mine looks pretty good... not very useful to you, I know, but the right settings are out there
[12:29] <arifinahmad> hello there
[12:29] <arifinahmad> how are you guys
[12:29] <dan01> Falc: can you send a screenshot?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic cosmic
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | absence ?
[12:31] <knightling> some german ?
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> !de | knightling
[12:31] <absence> lotuspsychje: yes, did that
[12:32] <Falc> dan01: https://pasteboard.co/I368SAz.png
[12:32] <absence> lotuspsychje: it was upgrading to the latest packages that broke it :)
[12:32] <knightling> okay okay its my first time after years in a irc channel
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> welcome back to the ubuntu community knightling
[12:33] <dan01> Falc: Eh, better than mine, but the buttons are way biger that on Windows, like the compile debug and all those buttons
[12:33] <dan01> Falc: or the file tabs, also too big
[12:34] <knightling> lotuspsychje, thank you ;)
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> absence: whats your graphics card please?
[12:37] <rockfordal> anyone know how to install docx filter for libreoffice (--convert to docx   : "no expoert filter for <file>.docx found, aborting")
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> rockfordal: try the libreoffice channel perhaps
[12:38] <rockfordal> lotuspshychje: will do, tnx
[12:41] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: When I'm logged in I keep getting this popping up: "PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Data Link Layer, id=00e5(Transmitter ID)". I added the "pci=noaer" as per some tutorials and that has stopped popping up but I still can't log in
[12:41] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: I don't see Xauthority anywhere in my home
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: do you recall if your system is up to date?
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: maybe check from a tty?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> qwebirc86905, look in /home>hidden files
[12:46] <BluesKaj>  /home>view>hidden files
[12:48] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: I did a apt-get update and it shows 18 packages to be updated and 7 security updates. I can run the updates, but we are in an older kernel. Surely out-of-date packages is normal?
[12:48] <qwebirc86905> BluesKaj: I checked. No hidden file that is called .Xauthority either
[12:48] <qwebirc86905> checked both with ls -lah | grep -i Xauthority and ls -al
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: yeah update system
[12:49] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: doing it now
[12:57] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: ok so... updated everything, rebooted and still stuck on login loop in both kernels (-45 and -43). Can only log in to terminal in the -43. Checked again for updates and everything is up to date. Still no .Xauthority file
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: ah i recall a gdm3 bug once, holdon
[12:58] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: sure
[13:00] <psichas> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386329 qwebirc86905
[13:01] <migue1> hi :)
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: lets try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1780986
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: try the fix after TTY:
[13:03] <qwebirc86905> psichas: thanks for the link. Are you suggesting I create one? Or if I do this is how?
[13:03] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: thanks. doing it now
[13:03] <psichas> i didn't used this link :)
[13:04] <psichas> im just helping for you :)
[13:04] <ygk_12345> hi all
[13:04] <ygk_12345> i need some elp with apache2 on ubuntu 18
[13:04] <ygk_12345> i cant access custom html pages outside the server
[13:04] <ygk_12345> *help
[13:04] <qwebirc86905> psichas: thanks
[13:05] <ygk_12345> can anyone help me please
[13:06] <psichas> ygk_12345, opened ports?
[13:06] <ygk_12345> psichas: yes
[13:06] <ygk_12345> psichas: i can access it from within the server though using wget but not externally
[13:06] <blackflow> ygk_12345: what error do you get, that's very important
[13:06] <ygk_12345> psichas: ufw is disabled
[13:07] <ygk_12345> blackflow: url not found
[13:07] <ygk_12345> blackflow: but I can access the default page
[13:07] <psichas> so dns worng?
[13:07] <blackflow> ygk_12345: 404?
[13:07] <sveinse> Any awk experts here? When changing from 18.04 to 18.10, the following statement "awk 'match($0, /^DESCRIPTION=("([^"]*)")$/, m) { print m[2]; }' file" fails with "syntax error at or near ,"
[13:07] <ygk_12345> psichas: blackflow only default page is visible externally
[13:07] <blackflow> ygk_12345: do you get 404
[13:07] <ygk_12345> blackflow: let me check once
[13:07] <blackflow> ygk_12345: does Apache respond with an error page. if yes, that rules out port or DNS problems.
[13:08] <ygk_12345> blackflow: no logs in the error or accesslogs, The requested URL /temp-plot.html was not found on this server.
[13:08] <psichas> sveinse, ubuntu is not roolling release ... download iso...
[13:08] <blackflow> ygk_12345: I'm not talking about logs, I'm talking about what you see in the browser. Is it browser's own error page, or Apache's error page.
[13:09] <blackflow> ygk_12345: "The requested URL /temp-plot.html was not found on this server"  that sounds like apache error
[13:09] <ygk_12345> blackflow: I see Not Found, The requested URL /temp-plot.html was not found on this server.
[13:09] <ygk_12345> blackflow: yes
[13:09] <ioria> qwebirc86905, if that fails, you can still install the cosmic hwe (that bug  should be  fixed in cosmic)
[13:09] <ygk_12345> blackflow: but cant  make out where exactly
[13:09] <sveinse> psichas: what? sorry I'm not following
[13:09] <blackflow> ygk_12345: alright so, as said, the problem is then in Apache config, vhost config and where it should look for files, probably. it's not firewall, port or DNS issue.
[13:09] <ygk_12345> blackflow: within the server I can download the page using wget though
[13:10] <blackflow> ygk_12345: using exactly the same hostname and url?
[13:10] <ygk_12345> blackflow: wget localhost/temp-plot.html works
[13:10] <ygk_12345> blackflow: yes
[13:10] <blackflow> ygk_12345: ygk_12345 no. "localhost"
[13:10] <blackflow> localhost has no meaning "from the outside"
[13:11] <absence> lotuspsychje: intel uhd 620
[13:11] <blackflow> ygk_12345: to acces the server from outside of it, you need to use its IP or proper public hostname.
[13:11] <ygk_12345> blackflow: using both the ip and localhost it is working from  within the server
[13:11] <blackflow> ygk_12345: are you listening
[13:11] <ygk_12345> blackflow: i have the public ip
[13:11] <qwebirc86905> ioria: thanks. currently stuck on a whole bunch of [OK] started... messages. will wait a bit before I force reboot. If no luck I'll upgrade the distro
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> absence: did you try a !nomodeset yet?
[13:12] <blackflow> ygk_12345: "localhost" translates to 127.0.0.1 and is valid ONLY on the machine itself. you can curl stuff on the server itself, but you can't access by "localhost" from another IP
[13:12] <ygk_12345> blackflow: using the public ip i can see only the default page
[13:12] <ioria> qwebirc86905, no need to upgrade the distro: just sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04
[13:12] <blackflow> ygk_12345: right, because you need to set up the vhost properly for the public hostname, not just "localhost"
[13:12] <ygk_12345> blackflow: how to do that ?
[13:12] <ygk_12345> blackflow: i am using the default site vhost
[13:12] <blackflow> ygk_12345: that's beyond teh scope of #ubuntu, you'd have to ask for Apache support
[13:13] <blackflow> ygk_12345: or pop in #ubuntu-server, so this channel is not clogged with apache details
[13:13] <qwebirc86905> ioria: oh... ok. Will try that. Are you suggesting I do that instead of the upgrade so I can stay in LTS version? Cause it's my personal machine, so I don't mind upgrading
[13:13] <sveinse> Found it. ubuntu 18.10 is shipped with mawk by default, and when I installed gawk then everything works fine. I guess a similar situation as dash vs bash.
[13:13] <ioria> qwebirc86905, yep
[13:14] <qwebirc86905> ioria: cool. thanks
[13:14] <ioria> gl
[13:14] <absence> lotuspsychje: no, what's that?
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | absence
[13:15] <absence> lotuspsychje: maybe i could try it, but wouldn't gdm also be broken then? gdm works fine
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> absence: nomodeset doesnt break packages
[13:18] <absence> lotuspsychje: i mean, it sounds like nomodeset is a solution for corrupted splash screen or booting into a black screen. but i don't get a black screen until after logging in via gdm. both the splash screen and gdm itself display fine, so apparently it can modeset just fine
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> absence: that's not all that nomodeset does
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> absence: im trying to widen options, test what we can do
[13:21] <absence> lotuspsychje: ok i see. i'll try it, but i can't reboot at the moment unfortunately
[13:21] <pragmaticenigma> absence: nomodeset stops the kernel from probing the graphics cards for display modes and defaults to basic VESA operations. This allows the kernel time to load in the driver and the starting X server which will do it's own probing of the graphics instead of assuming the kernel already did it
[13:23] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: that didn't work.
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: allright mate, try ioria's advice
[13:24] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I tried your upgrade, and that didn't work either. However at least I am now on kernel 4.18 and I can log in to the terminal
[13:24] <qwebirc86905> ioria: did an update and upgrade and all is up to date
[13:24] <ioria> qwebirc86905, sudo systemctl restart gdm3
[13:25] <qwebirc86905> give me a sec
[13:26] <absence> pragmaticenigma: ok, good to know
[13:27] <qwebirc86905> ioria: restarts, takes me back to the GUI login page and then back to login loop :(
[13:27] <ioria> qwebirc86905, cat /proc/cmdline | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: you are on ubuntu-desktop right, not some derivative?
[13:29] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: yes. Well whatever comes from the Ubuntu website. I think it's the new gnome one (not unity)
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: allright, just doublechecking
[13:29] <ioria> qwebirc86905, or  cat /proc/cmdline    and paste it here
[13:29] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/hbbm
[13:30] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: cool. I stick to "generics" so that it's easier to get help lol
[13:30] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I added the pci=noaer today while I was being helped
[13:30] <qwebirc86905> I kept getting the PCIe Bus Error
[13:31] <ioria> qwebirc86905, ls -al $HOME | grep root
[13:31] <Kingsy> Does anyone know why after installing fonts via apt-get they don't appear in xfontsel ?
[13:32] <qwebirc86905> ioria: prints: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 26 2018 ..
[13:33] <ioria> qwebirc86905, at the login screen, be sure 'Ubuntu' is selected and not 'Ubuntu on Wayland'
[13:34] <qwebirc86905> ok will try again
[13:34] <qwebirc86905> ioria: how do I go back to GUI screen without rebooting?
[13:34] <ioria> qwebirc86905, sudo systemctl restart gdm3
[13:34] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ah ok
[13:35] <ioria> qwebirc86905, and what's your video card ?   sudo lshw -c Video | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:36] <qwebirc86905> ioria: tried it and ubuntu is selected. My video card is https://termbin.com/8nph
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: stock amdgpu driver, or did you install it from amd?
[13:40] <ducasse> Kingsy: xfontsel does not list all font formats, iirc
[13:40] <ioria> qwebirc86905, lspci -k | grep -EA4 'VGA|Display' | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:40] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: Whatever the default did (I assume it's stock). Last time I tried installing propriatery drivers I things went wonky lol
[13:40] <ducasse> Kingsy: there's a program called font-manager, use that instead
[13:41] <Kingsy> ducasse: see the problem is, I want to use the font in dwm, and it expects a foramt like this ---> "-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-100-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1"  which I am guessing is the output from xfontsel ?
[13:41] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/oltr
[13:42] <qwebirc86905> This termbin.com is amazing! What with the fact I'm typing here from a different machine lol
[13:42] <ioria> qwebirc86905, already tried 'nomodeset' ?
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905 ioria maybe amdgpu issues in dmesg?
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> we had some users before with amdgpu stock driver issues
[13:43] <ioria> lotuspsychje, yes
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: can you access dmesg?
[13:43] <qwebirc86905> ioria: no, because we successfully logged with via terminal (lotuspsychje did suggest it).
[13:44] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: I have no idea what that is or how
[13:44] <ioria> qwebirc86905, or try this:   reboot -> grub -> advanced options -> recovery mode -> resume
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | qwebirc86905
[13:44] <ducasse> Kingsy: it is, i don't remember if font-manager can do that
[13:44] <ducasse> Kingsy: but can dwm use ttf fonts, for example?
[13:44] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ok we didn't go in recovery mode. Hold on
[13:44] <ioria> ok
[13:45] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  after :  dmesg | grep -i amdgpu
[13:45] <Kingsy> ducasse: well I know it can use terminus, which is ttf right?
[13:45] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I am in the recovery menu. Which option?
[13:45] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  resume
[13:46] <qwebirc86905> ioria: it said it exited recovery mode
[13:46] <qwebirc86905> trying the dmesg now
[13:46] <ducasse> Kingsy: ok, maybe that is not the format xfontsel can't see, then. or this was an old problem, now fixed. i can't say, i'm afraid.
[13:46] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  wait ... what it said ?
[13:47] <qwebirc86905> ioria: when I clicked resume it gave me a warning telling me it was exiting recovery mode
[13:47] <Meili> do we already have an Xorg log from qwebirc86905?
[13:47] <qwebirc86905> Let me do it again so I can tell you the exact message
[13:47] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  another broken thing
[13:47] <qwebirc86905> however on the reboot now it showed a lot more text than before lol
[13:49] <qwebirc86905> ioria: "You are not going to exit the recovery mode and continue the boot sequense. PLease note that some graphic drivers require a full graphical boot and so will fail when resuming from recovery....."
[13:49] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  that's ok.... and what happens ?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> Meili: not yet no
[13:51] <qwebirc86905> ioria: still in login loop
[13:51] <qwebirc86905> must I try the dmesg thing?
[13:51] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  dmesg | grep -i amdgpu | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:52] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/2zwf
[13:54] <Meili> qwebirc86905: can you describe your login loop again? What do you see exactly when you do what?
[13:55] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  what laptop is that ?
[13:56] <ducasse> Kingsy: can you use the format xft:"Terminus 14"?
[13:56] <qwebirc86905> Meili: I see my login screen with my username. I click on it and shows password prompt. I enter the password, screen goes flashes and shows my background for a split second and then shows the login screen again
[13:57] <qwebirc86905> ioria: Dell Inspiron 5570 - "Dell N5570-I78550U-8256"
[13:57] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  you need to  reboot and paste again dmesg | grep -i amdgpu
[13:57] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  atm you're still in recovery
[13:57] <ducasse> Kingsy: you might also need to do 'xset fp rehash' to reread the font database
[13:57] <qwebirc86905> yes
[13:57] <qwebirc86905> haven't rebooted
[13:58] <Meili> qwebirc86905: thank you (I thought I read somewhere that you couldnt properly enter your password), so I was wondering what the focus on the display drivers were about.
[13:58] <qwebirc86905> ioria: doing it now
[14:00] <qwebirc86905> Meili: that was an issue I was experiencing earlier. I was going into the terminal, typing my username and then when it went down onto the password line it's like it autopressed "enter". That was on kernel 4.15-45. Not an issue any more since we updated to kernel 4.18
[14:00] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/19u1
[14:00] <Meili> qwebirc86905: good to hear.
[14:01] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:02] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  ah, i'am assuming you're not using any ppa, right ?
[14:02] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/f3ur
[14:03] <qwebirc86905> ioria: how do I check? I was installing one for a software I needed for development yday
[14:03] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  in that file , replace  pci=noaer   with amdgpu.dc=1  , save and run  sudo update-grub
[14:03] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I can't remember if I ended up adding the ppa
[14:04] <ioria> we'll see later
[14:04] <qwebirc86905> ioria: one sec
[14:06] <qwebirc86905> ioria: done. reboot?
[14:06] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  wait ....   stat $HOME | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:07] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/junp
[14:07] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  yeah, reboot
[14:08] <qwebirc86905> ioria: doing it now
[14:08] <qwebirc86905> ioria: login loop again
[14:09] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:10] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/9dwcc : I installed inkscape yesterday
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: when was the last time your ubuntu was working?
[14:11] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: the day before yesterday lol
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: did you say updates borked it?
[14:11] <qwebirc86905> when ioria mentioned ppa's. I remember that I added one
[14:12] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: no I didn't. I said I installed software and today it's not working. That was the only PPA I added. The rest I installed simply by doing sudo apt-get install
[14:12] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: I don't know if it was that the broke it, or if it was the normal ubuntu updates that i also did yesterday
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: can you pastebin us your dpkg logs from the day you broke?
[14:13] <Kingsy> ducasse: yeah I think you can use references directly out of fc-list
[14:13] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: command?
[14:13] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: sorry, I usually work off GUI and with the help of google. I don't know where they are saved
[14:13] <ducasse> Kingsy: try those instead, it's the common format these days
[14:14] <ioria> qwebirc86905, ok,  in the /etc/default/grub change   amdgpu.dc=1   with amdgpu.dc=0  ;  sudo update-grub after
[14:14] <Meili> qwebirc86905: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:14] <Meili> qwebirc86905: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:14] <Meili> qwebirc86905: cat ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:15] <qwebirc86905> ioria: reboot or do you want to see stat $HOME again?
[14:15] <ioria> .xsession-errors  is not used  by gnome-shell on 18.04
[14:15] <qwebirc86905> Meili: thanks. will get them now
[14:15] <ioria> qwebirc86905, nope, reboot
[14:16] <qwebirc86905> kk
[14:16] <qwebirc86905> ioria: still nothing. loop persists
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: did you install gnome extensions?
[14:19] <ioria> qwebirc86905, this is silly,but might help:   sudo apt install fluxbox ; reboot and select fluxbox from the login screen session picker
[14:20] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje, Meili dpkg.log => https://termbin.com/ih8y
[14:20] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje, Meili Xorg.0.log => https://termbin.com/7qam
[14:20] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje, Meili I do not have an .xsessions-errors file (I had looked for it before)
[14:21] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: If the gnome extensions were installed during standard updates, then yes. Otherwise I didn't do it myself
[14:21] <qwebirc86905> ioria: doing it now
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: i see mesa updates on 26/2
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> maybe we got a mesa case?
[14:23] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I'm in and it didn't kick me out again.
[14:23] <qwebirc86905> ioria: that being said I don't know this desktop so don't know how to log out lol
[14:23] <ioria> qwebirc86905, right click
[14:24] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ok I'm out
[14:24] <qwebirc86905> so fluxbox works
[14:24] <ioria> qwebirc86905, yep
[14:24] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: I have no idea what mesa is. other than what Jar-jar says lol
[14:24] <qwebirc86905> sorry... need some humour here lol
[14:25] <qwebirc86905> you guys are champs btw, for helping me out. If only I could post a beer or wine or whatever to you guys lol
[14:25] <qwebirc86905> ioria: Ubuntu Classic loops me back too
[14:25] <Meili> I'm not using gnome, so can anyone else explain how he can pastebin his session log?
[14:26] <ioria> qwebirc86905, Ubuntu Classic it's not installed by default ....
[14:26] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ah... that would make sense lol
[14:26] <leftyfb> Meili: pastebinit or pipe to terminbin 9999
[14:26] <qwebirc86905> Meili: if you tell me where I can find it, then I can send it to termbin.com
[14:26] <ioria> qwebirc86905, ls /usr/share/xsessions/ | nc term.com 9999
[14:27] <Meili> leftyfb: I know, I just don't know how he should get which log from journalctl
[14:27] <leftyfb> ioria: might not want to abbreviate domains
[14:27] <ioria> yep
[14:27] <ioria> qwebirc86905, ls /usr/share/xsessions/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:28] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/z8mg
[14:29] <qwebirc86905> leftyfb: lol. been didn't even notice it was abbreviated, I 've done it so many times today lol
[14:29] <ioria> qwebirc86905, restart gdm3 and login in community-theme
[14:30] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I don't see it in the drop down. I see Ubuntu and Ubuntu on Wayland
[14:30] <qwebirc86905> is it that one?
[14:31] <ioria> qwebirc86905, yep, https://termbin.com/z8mg
[14:31] <qwebirc86905> ioria: flashes to a black screen and then back out
[14:31] <qwebirc86905> to the login screen
[14:32] <ioria> qwebirc86905,   sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> ioria: something weird, mesa-vdpau-driversis optional still dpkg logs show him installing it
[14:33] <qwebirc86905> ioria: done. reboot before I try? or restart gdm3?
[14:33] <ioria> lotuspsychje, mmmm, no idea
[14:34] <ioria> qwebirc86905,   the second :þ
[14:34] <qwebirc86905> ioria: kk
[14:34] <qwebirc86905> ioria: back out
[14:36] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  restore to default  /etc/default/grub
[14:36] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  i mean set   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[14:37] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ok
[14:37] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  and sudo update-grub
[14:39] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  secure boot enabled ?
[14:40] <qwebirc86905> ioria: restarted gdm3 and still in the loop
[14:40] <qwebirc86905> ioria: secure boot? I have no idea. If it's done by default then yes
[14:40] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  sudo apt install lightdm
[14:42] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  and set it as default instead of gdm3
[14:43] <qwebirc86905> ioria: slected lightdm and it's done installing
[14:43] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  sudo service lightdm restart
[14:44] <qwebirc86905> ioria: logged in, showed background and back to login
[14:45] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  meh....  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3
[14:45] <Meili> any chance on a log of that failing session?
[14:46] <qwebirc86905> ioria: back to normalk
[14:46] <qwebirc86905> Meili: how do I get that? Do you want me to log in and send you the xsessions log?
[14:47] <qwebirc86905> Meili: I mean attempt to log in via GUI and then send you the xsession via terminal
[14:48] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  Meili    maybe   sudo journalctl  -u gdm.service
[14:49] <Meili> qwebirc86905: I'd wish I could tell you but I'm too unfamiliar with Xorg logging
[14:49] <Meili>  qwebirc86905: try iorias command, If that yields somehting of interest, pipe it termbin
[14:50] <qwebirc86905> Meili: not sure if this is what you wanted?
[14:50] <qwebirc86905> ioria: doing it now
[14:50] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  and try to add a new user :   sudo adduser usertwo
[14:50] <ioria> sorry, brb
[14:52] <qwebirc86905> Meili: here you go: https://termbin.com/12q8
[14:52] <qwebirc86905> ioria: trying it now
[14:55] <qwebirc86905> ioria, Meili lotuspsychje usertwo logs in successfully
[14:55] <qwebirc86905> X_X
[14:56] <Meili> lovely
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: you fixxed it?
[14:59] <Meili> new user works
[15:00] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: hahaha
[15:00] <qwebirc86905> ya. new user works. old user still has an issue
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: something must have borked your userspace then
[15:01] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: would that happen if I put something in the /usr/local/bin file?
[15:01] <qwebirc86905> *directory
[15:03] <ducasse> qwebirc86905: it's most likely a user config issue
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: we dont know what you all did yesterday
[15:05] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: lol not what I meant. I meant could broken file(s) in there have caused this, is all. Cause I can tell you exactly what I installed and where. I was following a book's instructions
[15:06] <qwebirc86905> ducasse: any way I can check/reset that?
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: a book instruction?
[15:06] <tgm4883> qwebirc86905: Generally you'll need to be looking for stuff in your home directory, since a new user works fine
[15:06] <ducasse> qwebirc86905: https://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults
[15:08] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: I was trying to install Softcover on my machine so that it can produce book. It required a whole bunch of dependencies, like NodeJS, PhantomJS, Kindlegen, etc
[15:08] <qwebirc86905> tgm4883: I'll take a look
[15:08] <qwebirc86905> ducasse: thanks. Will this uninstall applications I have installed? (as in reset the user completely?) or just the gnome stuff?
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: wich guide did you follow?
[15:10] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: http://manual.softcover.io/book/getting_started#sec-installing_softcover
[15:10] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: you will see a list of all the software I installed
[15:10] <qwebirc86905> that and MySQL Workbench that keeps crashing lol
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc86905: next time, please mention this at the beginning of your question
[15:12] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: I did. I said that I installed software and then Ubuntu updates. Apologies for not being specific. I can even tell you how I "installed" the above. Some were files I pasted into /usr/local/bin and other I installed using sudo apt-get install
[15:13] <qwebirc86905> lotuspsychje: I notcied that I have an ICEauthority, but I don't know if that was created due to fluxbox installation.
[15:17] <ducasse> qwebirc86905: it just resets gnome config
[15:18] <qwebirc86905> ducasse: thanks
[15:23] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  how it's going ?
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> ioria: he fixxed it
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> ioria: user2 worked
[15:23] <ioria> let me scroll
[15:24] <ioria> ok
[15:24] <ioria> qwebirc86905, now you need to add usertwo do sudo
[15:25] <ioria> *to
[15:25] <qwebirc86905> ioria: sure.
[15:26] <qwebirc86905> ioria: btw, are you getting me to change user? lol Or to use usertwo to fix user 1?
[15:26] <ioria> qwebirc86905, sudo adduser <username> sudo
[15:26] <ioria> qwebirc86905, no, you need to main user
[15:26] <qwebirc86905> ioria: done
[15:26] <qwebirc86905> oh ok
[15:27] <ioria> qwebirc86905, you need to main user to add user2 to sudo, i mean
[15:27] <ioria> *the
[15:28] <qwebirc86905> ioria: oh ya. I've done that. I was user 1 and added usertwo to sudo
[15:28] <ioria> good
[15:29] <ioria> qwebirc86905, reading you did some stuff .... with Softcover
[15:29] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ya
[15:30] <ioria> qwebirc86905, what about the ducasse suggestion ?
[15:31] <qwebirc86905> I haven't had a chance to do it because I'm trying to find out which version of Gnome I'm running so I can follow the correct instructions
[15:32] <qwebirc86905> ioria: all I know is that I'm running gnome. Not if it's gnome2 or gnome3 and I don't have any files in my /home directory labeled like that
[15:32] <lawnmowerman> hello, i have a very specific question. can the parted apt extend mounted partitions? searched everywhere but i could not find the answer. hoping anyone has encountered this before
[15:32] <lawnmowerman> +
[15:33] <ioria> qwebirc86905, dpkg -l | grep gnome-session
[15:34] <qwebirc86905> ioria: just says GNOME Sesson Manager. Nothing about 1 or 2. I don't have .old-gnome-config file either lol. so will just delete whichever I see based on what it shows
[15:35] <ioria> qwebirc86905, dpkg -l | grep gnome-session | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:35] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/awgz
[15:37] <ioria> qwebirc86905, weird, you have gnome Classic; so you should have also 'gnome-session'
[15:37] <qwebirc86905> ioria: there is no 'gnome-session' in my home directory
[15:38] <ioria> qwebirc86905, gnome-session it's a package
[15:38] <qwebirc86905> ioria: oh X_X
[15:38] <ioria> !ingo gnome-session
[15:38] <ioria> !info gnome-session
[15:39] <ash_worksi> I was frustrated yesterday and mistyped multiple ALT commands things while trying to simply lock my computer; now my terminator app has a big gold star on it... does anyone know what that means?
[15:39] <qwebirc86905> ioria: so must I delete the files based on duca s s e's suggestion?
[15:39] <qwebirc86905> ioria: or would you want to try something else first?
[15:40] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  cd  in /usr/share/xsessions   and paste   gnome.classic file
[15:41] <olabaz> Hi, I have a 2nd hard drive with my data stored. If I open up "other locations" in file explorer it's always there and I can access it. But I don't think it's automatically mounted because my sync program says it can't find it.
[15:41] <olabaz> Is there a way to do automount?
[15:42] <olabaz> I think I should edit fstab but I'm unsure what to put there
[15:42] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/f9pl
[15:44] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  ls -al $HOME | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:45] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/7n89
[15:46] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I see that I now have an .xsessions-errors file that I didn't have before
[15:46] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  look at the date
[15:47] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ya. Could that have happened when we logged in with fluxbox?
[15:47] <qwebirc86905> I also have an .Xauthority file now
[15:49] <qwebirc86905> ioria: what's the command so I can try now? sudo systemctl restart gdm3?
[15:49] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  to do what ?
[15:49] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  what have you done ?
[15:50] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  you removed some stuff ?
[15:50] <qwebirc86905> ioria: nothing. haven't touched anything and haven't deleted the gnome files either.
[15:50] <qwebirc86905> ioria: no i haven't.
[15:50] <qwebirc86905> but now I see these files that weren't there before
[15:50] <ioria> qwebirc86905, yes, the command is that .... try
[15:51] <ioria> qwebirc86905, i think you need to remove some .hidden folders
[15:51] <qwebirc86905> ioria: nothing.
[15:52] <qwebirc86905> ioria: let me remove the hidden folders as per the suggested "reset"
[15:52] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  so try to rm  (or rename)    -rif   .config  .gconf   .gnome
[15:52] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ok will do the ones you said. I was going to follow this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults
[15:53] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  something like that, yes
[15:54] <m-blaise> greetings
[15:55] <qwebirc86905> ioria: what about .cache, .thumbnails and .Xauthority?
[15:56] <m-blaise> anyone aware of any active MQTT channel?
[15:56] <ioria> qwebirc86905, usually not relevant, but might be
[15:56] <tomreyn> !alis | m-blaise
[15:57] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ok done. restarting gdm3 and praying lol
[15:59] <qwebirc86905> ioria: nothing. still the same. I even rebooted the machine, just in case
[16:00] <qwebirc86905> ioria: all files have been recreated except for the .Xauthority file (which blogs say it's how it fixes the issue) and the .thumbnails file
[16:00] <ioria> qwebirc86905, echo $SHELL
[16:01] <qwebirc86905> ioria: '/bin/bash'
[16:02] <ioria> qwebirc86905, remove zlogin   zshrc
[16:02] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  and backup .profile
[16:03] <qwebirc86905> ioria: will do. In the meantime, please check this https://termbin.com/wvmb compared to the instructions here https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-ubuntu-login-loop/ under "change /tmp permissions". Not sure if it makes a difference
[16:03] <dwts> hello everyone, is there a way to list all the boot parameters used when loading from an usb live usb?
[16:05] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  that it's ok
[16:05] <dwts> the /proc/cmdline info doesn't seem to provide the info I'm looking for
[16:05] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  ls -ld /tmp
[16:05] <genii> Used to be the F6 key to view or edit the boot parameters on livecd/usb
[16:06] <nevada1> So I booted up Ubuntu 16.04.5 (32-bit) inside VirtualBox with 4GB RAM, 128MB Video Memory. I have an issue with CPU usage. Compiz randomly shoots to 50%+ CPU usage for no reason, with no apps running. Any ideas?
[16:06] <nevada1> This in turn makes it very laggy.
[16:06] <qwebirc86905> ioria: nothing. and it didn't recreate the .zlogin, .zshrc nor .profile
[16:06] <dwts> I'm on Ubuntu 18.10 live usb if that makes any difference
[16:07] <rapidwave> Is it wise for a personal Ubuntu machine to have Snort installed?
[16:07] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ls -ld /tmp https://termbin.com/anxj
[16:08] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  ok   cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999  (brb again)
[16:09] <qwebirc86905> ioria: https://termbin.com/ogsa
[16:09] <nevada1> Even after installing Guest Additions, Compiz still consumes just as much.
[16:10] <qwebirc86905> ioria: btw, the PCIe bus error was why I put the pci=noaer in the boot thing
[16:14] <ash_worksi> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[16:14] <ash_worksi> does anyone know what the gold star on my app means?
[16:14] <ash_worksi> (terminator terminal app)
[16:16] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: did your issue get solved? it's so much chat, i only read the very beginning, what was you reporting that you're affected by bug 1813873 (you may want to read up on that).
[16:18] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: unfortunately not. Not sure if that was the bug, but I still can't log in using the GUI with my user, but my second user we created can.
[16:18] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: the pci bus errors seem to be 1726159
[16:18] <tomreyn> bug 1726159
[16:20] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: it says that people only get it when the laptop is plugged in. I currently also have mine plugged in. However I have no idea if that is related to my login loop
[16:20] <Guest60> hi, my ubuntu 18.04 lts has been crashing quite often while launching Google Chrome, Eclipse or switching screens so far. Cursor and screen freezes and sometimes allows cursor movement. I have windows in this laptop and it is working fine so far. I am not sure what caused it, but maybe it is nvidia drivier after I updated it. Can anybody help me?
[16:21] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: me enither, sounds like it can be a separate issue. which ubuntu release ( lsb_release -ds ) and kernel version + options ( cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline ) are you running there?
[16:21] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: I only realised I was getting this error because it kept interrupting me while trying to type on my terminal, while we were trying to sort out my login loop error
[16:23] <tomreyn> Guest60: which ubuntu release ( lsb_release -ds ) and kernel version + options ( cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline ) are you running there? which graphical desktop?
[16:23] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: Ubuntu 18.04.02 LTS   https://termbin.com/sj7p     https://termbin.com/fxm8
[16:25] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: bare in mind that before today's conversation I was on kernel 4.15.0-45-generic
[16:25] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: 1813873 is fixed in the kernel version you'Re running so that's not / no longer an issue for you.
[16:26] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: so this was an issue, and you worked around it by installing the hwe kernel.
[16:27] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: honestly, I have no idea what 1813873 was lol I do know that ioria helped me fixed it.
[16:28] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  ok   your syslog is a festival of warnigs and errors
[16:28] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: on that was the one that i couldn't type the password
[16:28] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I saw lol
[16:28] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: would you mind rebooting and getting a fresh boot log and post that? so:  sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit      # then reboot, then:  journalctl -b | pastebinit    # then paste the url here.
[16:29] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  mv  .local  local.back
[16:29] <qwebirc86905> ioria: done
[16:29] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: or just keep working with ioria, i didn't mean to jump into that. ;-)
[16:30] <ioria> no problem tomreyn
[16:30] <tomreyn> :)
[16:30] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  mv  .xinputrc   xinputrc.back
[16:30] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: haha I was just going to ask if you guys can tell me which instruction to follow first. I know you guys are trying to help
[16:31] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: ioria knows a lot more about your situation than i do, so i'll happily stand back.
[16:31] <qwebirc86905> ioria: done
[16:31] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: cool. and thanks for trying to help. I can come back to you after and you can ask me to run any tests thereafter?
[16:32] <ioria> qwebirc86905,  try to login again
[16:32] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: feel free to try, i may still be around.
[16:32] <ioria> tomreyn, i ran out of ideads btw
[16:33] <qwebirc86905> ioria: YESS!!!!!! I'm IN!!!!!!
[16:33] <ioria> no way
[16:33] <ioria> lucky guy
[16:33] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I know... I had given up hoping hahaha
[16:33] <tomreyn> !megacookie | ioria
[16:33] <qwebirc86905> !megacookie | ioria
[16:33] <ioria> qwebirc86905, hehehe
[16:34] <qwebirc86905> ioria: let me restart the laptop so it can log out from everywhere and make sure it works lol
[16:34] <ioria> ok
[16:35] <qwebirc86905> ioria: ok. all good. Talk about last ray of hope haha
[16:35] <ioria> qwebirc86905, keep the second user, might be useful
[16:36] <qwebirc86905> ioria: you have NO IDEA how GRATEFUL I am for what you did today and your help
[16:36] <ioria> qwebirc86905, no problem, really
[16:36] <qwebirc86905> there was no way I would've even thought or known to do half the stuff
[16:36] <qwebirc86905> ioria: I assume this didn't fix all the warnings and errors? lol
[16:37] <ioria> qwebirc86905, nope, the pci ones are not cool
[16:37] <qwebirc86905> I didn't know I had them until I saw these log files. Will see what I can do.
[16:38] <qwebirc86905> I think the pci=noaer was just squashing the noise, not the problem
[16:38] <ioria> qwebirc86905, yup
[16:38] <qwebirc86905> ioria: cool. problem for another day lol
[16:38] <qwebirc86905> ioria: thanks again
[16:38] <ioria> qwebirc86905, keep an eye on the /var/log size ;  it's ok
[16:39] <qwebirc86905> tomreyn: you wanted me to do something, I think to help with the errors. would you like me to do it now?
[16:39] <qwebirc86905> ioria: will do
[16:45] <madlyshadow> hi guys
[16:46] <BrianBlaze> good morning madlyshadow
[16:47] <tomreyn> qwebirc86905: feel free to do it and post the results, pinging me when you're done. let me repeat what i had suggested:  sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit      # then reboot, then:  journalctl -b | pastebinit    # then paste the url here.
[17:09] <n00by> Hi everyone, I am having issues getting a service running (Ubuntu 18.04) whenever I use the `User` and `Group` settings in the service file. It works on users but an error occurs when the user name has a . (dot) in the name (at least that seems to be the only thing that triggers it))
[17:09] <n00by> Is this a know issue?
[17:11] <OerHeks> not an issue, just the way it works, allowed is [a-zA-Z_][a-zA-Z0-9_]
[17:13] <n00by> thats odd, I have this setup running on 16.04
[17:13] <n00by> Is there any work around?
[17:14] <n00by> and thanks for your quick replies
[17:15] <OerHeks> you claim it works with a . in 16.04?
[17:15] <rypervenche> n00by: You shouldn't have "." in your usernames regardless.
[17:15] <OerHeks> maybe a "_ " is legit, not sure
[17:16] <n00by> tried that, and the 16.04 doesn't have anything special (i tried the same file on 18)
[17:16] <OerHeks> i am sure 16.04 does not accept a dot in usernames too
[17:17] <tomreyn> here's how to break things https://askubuntu.com/questions/405638/what-are-the-disadvantages-of-having-a-dot-in-a-user-name
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> OerHeks: The regex you posted allows for underscores
[17:17] <OerHeks> pragmaticenigma, thanks, i thought so, but certaily not a dot
[17:18] <pragmaticenigma> OerHeks: Correct... for a "dot" or period to be allowed... that expression would need a "\." to allow the period or simply "." which is a wildcard when not escaped
[17:18] <n00by> So its bad practice to have a dot in user name on linux, noted
[17:18] <pragmaticenigma> n00by: in general it's bad to have a dot in user names
[17:20] <tomreyn> the risk of software  not escaping those dots and underscores when using these user and group names with ldap, kerberos, system environments such as PATH and other software are good reasons not to allow dots and underscores in user or group names.
[17:21] <tomreyn> * system environment variables
[17:21] <teward> tomreyn: dashes work though right?
[17:21] <tomreyn> yes
[17:21] <teward> in the off-chance they wanted to replace dots with dashes ;)
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> teward: they're not recommended, but are allowed if they are not the first character
[17:21] <n00by> thanks, noted, however, everyone in the engineering department where i work uses linux and already have there names defined with dots, we want to migrate to 18.04 (without reimageing everyons machines) but this has been an issue.
[17:21] <OerHeks> not first character +1
[17:22] <tomreyn> n00by: you can postpone changing the user names, but chances are it will only get more complex in the future.
[17:23] <n00by> yeah I guess we will change the dot notation for future deployments and run the service as root (not ideal) in current machines
[17:23] <pragmaticenigma> n00by: it is very odd that your team was able to run these services in the past with dotted user names. Did someone on your team (past or present) make it possible?
[17:26] <saint_> how can i troubleshoot the fact that when i transfer files from my NAS with a GB connection through a UBN switch, to my mac with a GB connection, the transfer goes to about 30Mb/s - the NAS has enterprise HDs
[17:26] <n00by> pragmaticenigma: the original guru left the company around 6 months ago and we are still discovering magical dust all over the company, so I cant say for sure
[17:27] <blum> hello everybody
[17:27] <tomreyn> n00by: you really shouldnt be running a service as root which doesn't need to be, but then you seem to know this.
[17:28] <pragmaticenigma> n00by: As a stop gap measure, you could just create a non-dotted user and run your services as that user where root would be required
[17:29] <tomreyn> saint_: start with a network throughput / bandwidth test. you will need to know a software which works on both ends. iperf is somewhat widely supported.
[17:29] <saint_> tomreyn will try thank you
[17:29] <blum> exit
[17:30] <tomreyn> saint_: thie test results will tell you whether the issue is actually network related or something local to one or more of the systems.
[17:30] <n00by> tomreyn: pragmaticenigma: that make a lot more sense actually, thanks, that's probably what I'll end up doing
[18:07] <rober> Greetings
[18:09] <saint_> tomreyn just tried iperf, and I'm transfering 20MB blocks at 250Mb/s
[18:14] <tomreyn> saint_: from where to where?
[18:16] <saint_> NAS with Gb ethernet card, Jumbo frames activated, Cat6 cable -> UniFi Switch 24 ports -> Cat6 cable to my computer / Gb ethenet card
[18:16] <saint_> tomreyn jumbo frames activated on unifi switch
[18:18] <tomreyn> saint_: which ubuntu version runs on the NAS? nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline;)
[18:18] <saint_> oh sorry. i m on the wrong chan :/
[18:18] <saint_> tomreyn i though i was on ubnt
[18:19] <tomreyn> those characters are part of this channel name, but not only.
[18:43] <atliquid> hola
[18:44] <lordcirth_> atliquid, hi
[19:14] <brimestone> Hey guys, question about httpd directives. I'm trying to serve a file with "-rw-------" this permission and when I tried to hit on the browser it says no access.
[19:15] <lordcirth_> brimestone, and the file is owned by who?
[19:15] <brimestone> by administrator:admin
[19:15] <ikonia> brimestone: the webserver won't be able to read that then
[19:15] <ikonia> change the owner or permission
[19:15] <brimestone> Now sure who owns the webserver
[19:16] <lordcirth_> It needs to be readable by www-data
[19:16] <brimestone> Or set it to 755
[19:16] <ikonia> depends on the security you need
[19:16] <brimestone> thanks..
[19:30] <TabMasher> Good day everyone!
[19:31] <Captain_Haddock> Hello TabMasher
[19:32] <TabMasher> Captain_Haddock: Hello!
[20:13] <Sword_Tech> Hello all
[20:15] <ioria> lo
[20:17] <OerHeks> nss update that requires reboot, brb
[20:24] <felixcra> Hi guys. I have a 18.04 that I cannot connect to the internet. My machine is 16.04. How can I download a 18.04 package with dependencies and install it on the other machine?
[20:25] <ioria> felixcra, it's not clear to me what are you asking
[20:26] <tgm4883> !offline
[20:27] <felixcra> I want to install python3-distutils on a machine that runs Ubuntu 18.04 and has no internet connection. I have a Ubuntu 16.04 machine that has internet connection. How can I download python3-distutils with dependencies for Ubuntu 18.04 on the Ubuntu 16.04 machine and then copy it with a USB stick to the Ubuntu 18.04 machine to install it there.
[20:27] <ioria> felixcra, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/python3-distutils
[20:28] <OerHeks> you can use the 18.04 to make an offline script, to download on that 16.04 machine
[20:28] <OerHeks> !offline
[20:28] <ioria> felixcra, but python3 should be already there
[20:28] <OerHeks> synaptic can do that, softwarecentre too
[20:29] <ioria> felixcra, and also python3-distutils iirc
[20:29] <felixcra> sry if I am a bit dumb @ioria, but does the link you provided offer some way to download that package? I saw it before and didn't know what to do
[20:29] <OerHeks> !info python3-distutils  bionic
[20:29] <ioria> felixcra, sure click on 'all'
[20:30] <felixcra> how would I install that package then on the target machine?
[20:30] <OerHeks> dpkg -i *.deb
[20:30] <ioria> felixcra,  sudo dpkg  -i  package.deb
[20:31] <felixcra> ok thanks a lot I'll try that immediately
[20:33] <ioria> felixcra,  you need also python3-lib2to3   obviuosly
[20:34] <ioria> felixcra,  so the cmd is   sudo dpkg  -i  *.deb
[20:36] <felixcra> wow that worked :D
[20:36] <ioria> good job
[20:39] <felixcra> do you know if I can download on packages.ubuntu.com a package with dependencies_
[20:39] <felixcra> ?
[20:40] <felixcra> now I'd like to install qt5-default, which has so many deps
[20:40] <lordcirth> felixcra, you want to manually download the .debs? Why can't you use apt?
[20:41] <felixcra> I need to download 18.04 .debs on a 16.04 machine.
[20:41] <leftyfb> don't
[20:41] <OerHeks> the answer is offline, else you need to find out dependencies yourself
[20:41] <leftyfb> felixcra: why do you think you need to do that?
[20:42] <felixcra> to install them on another machine, that has no internet access
[20:42] <ioria> felixcra,  can we ask you why you cannot get connectivity on the 18.04 box ?
[20:42] <tgm4883> offine installed is the correct answer. Or fix the machine that has no access to a repo
[20:42] <ikonia> create a local mirror
[20:42] <felixcra> what do you mean by offline installed?
[20:42] <ikonia> if you're going to keep needing packages
[20:42] <OerHeks> see the !offline factoid, posted before
[20:42] <leftyfb> felixcra: gt5 is available in Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:43] <tgm4883> !offline | felixcra
[20:43] <felixcra> I don't have the hardware to enable internet access on the other machine and I'm in a hurry
[20:43] <a1b2c3d4> uuuuuubbbbbuuuuuunnnnnnntttttttuuuuuuuu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu
[20:43] <ikonia> a1b2c3d4: please no
[20:43] <leftyfb> felixcra: regardless of online/offline, do not install packages from 18.04 onto 16.04
[20:43] <a1b2c3d4> ikonia are you the muffin man?
[20:43] <ikonia> felixcra: then map out the dependencies and download the packages you need in one go
[20:43] <ikonia> a1b2c3d4: please stop messing around
[20:44] <a1b2c3d4> i ♡♡♡♡ pooooooooopooooooooo
[20:44] <lordcirth> leftyfb, pretty sure he didn't say he wanted to install them, just download them for the other machine
[20:44] <felixcra> ubottu thx for the advice. I'll try that quickly
[20:44] <ioria> he's transferring pakages on 18.04
[20:44] <leftyfb> " I need to download 18.04 .debs on a 16.04 machine"
[20:44] <lordcirth> leftyfb, download, yes, not install. The 18.04 machine doesn't have internet
[20:45] <ioria> 'cause he only have a 16.04 box online
[20:45] <leftyfb> ah
[20:46] <leftyfb> felixcra: can you connect an ethernet calble between the 2 machines?
[20:46] <felixcra> did someone of you guys use synaptic for this usecase before?
[20:46] <felixcra> leftyfb: my network card does not support that
[20:46] <felixcra> already tried
[20:46] <tgm4883> felixcra: yes? It's in the factoid
[20:46] <leftyfb> felixcra: youre network card doesn't support what? An ethernet cable?
[20:47] <ioria> !aptoncd | felixcra
[20:47] <tgm4883> my network card only supports IP over Wax String
[20:50] <felixcra> yeah well just installed aptoncd and from my understanding this just allows my to create an installation medium from packages currently installed on my machine
[20:51] <leftyfb> felixcra: Can you plug an ethernet cable between the 2 machines? Yes or no.
[20:51] <felixcra> yes I can @leftyfb
[20:51] <leftyfb> ok. If you do that, it's pretty easy to share internet from your 18.04 computer to your 16.04 computer
[20:52] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[20:52] <CountryfiedLinux> I got an error message when trying to launch a snap. 'The command could not be located because '/snap/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.' Any suggestions?
[20:53] <ikonia> put /snap/bin in the PATH varible ?
[20:53] <ikonia> I'd be concerned why it's not there
[20:54] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, How do I do that?
[20:54] <nekoseam> Should turning gufw logging on "high" make it to where your /var/log directory becomes 50+ gb in size?
[20:54] <ikonia> $PATH=$PATH:/snap/bin
[20:54] <nekoseam> seems a bit extreme
[20:54] <ikonia> oops
[20:54] <ikonia> PATH=$PATH:/snap/bin
[20:54] <leftyfb> nekoseam: potentially, yes
[20:54] <ikonia> nekoseam: depends on your traffic
[20:55] <leftyfb> felixcra: https://www.crookm.com/journal/2018/sharing-wifi-connection-over-ethernet/
[20:57] <blackflow> nekoseam: sounds plausible. unfortunately the default "log all infractions" mindset of quite a lot of firewalls is simply useless on modern internet. there's quite a lot of.... infractions :)
[20:59] <nekoseam> blackflow: yeah it is VERY plausible it happened to me
[21:00] <nekoseam> I guess it's my own fault for not fully understanding what high logging meant
[21:00] <nekoseam> I thought there'd still be a cap of some sort
[21:00] <nekoseam> with logrotate
[21:00] <ikonia> you can cap it with logrotate
[21:00] <blackflow> nekoseam: dunno, but logrotate works daily as a cron task. I suppose it's possible to reach 50GB in that timeframe
[21:00] <ikonia> but you have to set the rotation and compression policy
[21:00] <felixcra> It's very nice. I managed to achieve to share my internet connection. I tried it using Windows 10 which is on another partition as 16.04 and I didn't work due to my driver being insufficient. On Ubuntu 16.04 it works. Thank you all for your help guys
[21:01] <nekoseam> blackflow: it gradually happened over a week
[21:01] <blackflow> nekoseam: personally I wouldn't bother. what possible intelligence can ou gather out of 50gb of mostly noise
[21:01] <nekoseam> I had a kern.log file over 18gb in size
[21:10] <Squarism> i want to become more of a desktop power user. Ie, shell work not primary concern (which i feel i know enough of)
[21:10] <Squarism> especially on chrome
[21:10] <Tyrandis> wow there are more people here then the linux mint one lol
[21:10] <Tyrandis> jesus christ 1508...
[21:11] <leftyfb> Squarism: you might try #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel
[21:11] <Squarism> ok
[21:11] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: Do you have a support question?
[21:11] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: please do not PM
[21:12] <lordcirth> !pm
[21:12] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: highlighting is not PM'ing. I did not PM you.
[21:14] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: please stop PM'ing
[21:14] <Tyrandis> LOL
[21:14] <Tyrandis> its like i'm going around in circles
[21:15] <lordcirth> Are you having trouble figuring out IRC?
[21:16] <leftyfb> lordcirth: they think being highlighted is PM'ing.
[21:16] <lordcirth> Yes, I inferred that
[21:16] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: feel free to join #freenode to ask for help with IRC.
[21:17] <Tyrandis> didn't know... i'm just use to the linux mint irc and its just very quiet over there
[21:18] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: mine you, we do not support Linux Mint here.
[21:18] <Tyrandis> yeah i just wanted to try out something different
[21:18] <lordcirth> Ubuntu has a lot more users. Did you have an Ubuntu support question?
[21:19] <Tyrandis> ummm do you know how to change the theme on the hexchat client?
[21:20] <tomreyn> which ubuntu and hexchat version?
[21:20] <Tyrandis> yeah that would be great
[21:20] <Tyrandis> for both
[21:21] <teward> Tyrandis: which Ubuntu version are you on, and are you using the Snap or the `apt-get` version of HexChat?
[21:21] <Tyrandis> 16.04
[21:21] <tomreyn> Tyrandis: which point release? lsb_release -ds
[21:22] <Tyrandis> 16.04.6
[21:22] <tomreyn> and the hexchat version?
[21:23] <OerHeks> https://hexchat.github.io/themes.html ~ https://dl.hexchat.net/themes/
[21:23] <Tyrandis> 2.10.2
[21:23] <tomreyn> 2.10.2? where did you download that from?
[21:24] <Tyrandis> the ubuntu software client
[21:24] <leftyfb> tomreyn: 2.10.2 is the version in Universe in 16.04
[21:24] <tomreyn> oh right, oops
[21:24] <OerHeks> correct, cosmic gives 2.14
[21:25] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/hexchat-irc
[21:28] <Tyrandis> btw does anyone know how to "outo-hite" the toolbar in ubuntu?
[21:29] <Tyrandis> auto
[21:29] <Tyrandis> hide
[21:29] <OerHeks> Tyrandis, that is a settings in systemsetting, and there is gnome-tweak-tool too
[21:30] <lordcirth> Tyrandis, Settings > Dock
[21:30] <Tyrandis> i cant seem to find dock... i wonder if dock is not on ubuntu 16.04?
[21:30] <OerHeks> but gnome-tweak give other options, and you find gnomeshell extentiosn too ( if installed)
[21:31] <OerHeks> i believe these tools should be merged, due to the gnome-shell stuff
[21:31] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: it's not. The suggestion give to you was for gnome shell in ubuntu 18.04
[21:32] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: https://askubuntu.com/a/270355
[21:32] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: please stop PM'ing me
[21:32] <OerHeks> 16.04 surely has that setting too, appearance - behaviour
[21:32] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: nobody PM'd you. It's all been in this channel.
[21:33] <Tyrandis> quick question... how do you highlight someone because i keep getting confused between that and someone PMing me...
[21:33] <OerHeks> !tab
[21:33] <Tyrandis> and i'll give that a shot thanks OerHeks
[21:33] <Tyrandis> ah gotcha thanks
[21:33] <OerHeks> just name us, and we see a highlight
[21:34] <Tyrandis> i see
[21:38] <talib[p]>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:50] <texla> Dell XPS Desktop w/ Ubuntu 18.04  Boots to desktop when I open updates it has error for flashplayer install says to uninstall and reinstall when I close and try to open synaptic the desktop freezes I have to hard close unit
[21:50] <Tyrandis> the theme worked on hexchat... thanks guys :D
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[21:54] <asy131> `yf56BaT5NQE
[21:54] <genii> !ru asy118
[21:54] <genii> !ru| asy118
[21:56] <leftyfb> pretty sure that was a password
[21:57] <genii> Possibly
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[21:59] <leftyfb> asy220: can we help you with something?
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[22:08] <texla> Dell XPS Desktop w/ Ubuntu 18.04  Boots to desktop when I open updates it has error for flashplayer install says to uninstall and reinstall when I close and try to open synaptic the desktop freezes I have to hard close unit
[22:12] <OerHeks> texla, flashplayer .. on what browser?
[22:15] <texla> OerHeks, I am using ubuntu 18.04 as my only o/s
[22:17] <texla> OerHeks, flash player came with my last update a number of days ago
[22:20] <OerHeks> oh, i trew it out, after installing restricted extras
[22:21] <OerHeks> anyway, what browser does need that plugin? clear the cache
[22:22] <texla> OerHeks, I use foxfire and cannot do anything at all except see the esktop and icons
[22:25] <OerHeks> foxfire? never heard of that, must be a fork, but mozilla keeps its cache and stuff in ~/mozilla
[22:27] <texla> OerHeks, Sorry misspelling should be mozilla firefox too many finger today
[22:29] <texla> OerHeks, I can go to ctl+alt+f2 do not know what to enter
[22:41] <texla> Well I guess I lost my helper for today see again tomorrow
[23:01] <Tyrandis> quick question... what is the channel for off topic?
[23:02] <leftyfb> Tyrandis: anything that isn't support related
[23:02] <Tyrandis> do you know any popular ones?
[23:05] <genii> !ot
[23:06] <user|18074> hi
[23:13] <plutes> hi trying to find the nmap/scripts directory, where about's should it be
[23:14] <tomreyn> dpkg -L nmap | grep scripts/
[23:14] <OerHeks> find / -name '*.nse'
[23:14] <OerHeks> or locate *.nse
[23:15] <plutes> whats dpkg i not used it before, Ive done nmap $PATH , and which nmap,
[23:15] <OerHeks> after adding, run:  nmap --script-updatedb
[23:15] <OerHeks> https://blog.skullsecurity.org/2010/how-to-install-an-nmap-script-2
[23:17] <plutes> OerHeks, thanks
[23:17] <plutes> its it /usr/share/nmap
[23:19] <OerHeks> plutes, have fun!
[23:42] <ScooterPhoenix> #twil