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xubuntu38wHello, I am new to using this type of chat service.  I have forumalted a question about Bionic Beaver with screen shots.  Is this the appropriate place to ask the question and post screen shots?  Thank you for your patience.01:35
krytarikxubuntu38w: Depends on the question really, just start by asking it.01:42
xubuntu38wOK, thank you.  Here is the question and is there a way to show screen shots on this forum?  Question: Hello,  My goal is to explore temporarily Bionic Beaver without installing it to my HD.  I am attempting to help a friend with her Xubuntu 18.04 OS. I run Puppy-linux 6.05 64bit Frugal install from partition sda1. My friend lives in another town, so, I thought I'd download Bionic Beaver and try out the desktop version so that I 01:47
xubuntu38wOppps! looks like amount of text is limited.01:48
xubuntu38wMy friend lives in another town, so, I thought I'd download Bionic Beaver and try out the desktop version so that I can view the screens she is referencing. My machine is: HP HDX Premium Series 64 bit   4GB RAM plus swap  Processor is:  Intell Core 2 Duo CPU T9400 @ 2.53GHz 2534.00MHz  Intell Core 2 Duo CPU T9400 @ 2.53GHz 800.00MHz  The machine has no CD/DVD drive.  I downloaded 18.04 64bit iso from official Xubuntu site. Hash M01:49
xubuntu38wThe file is on my second partion sda2. The file shows as a raw cd image. Clicking on the cd image mounts the file. But nothing else activates.  How do I activate the raw cd image so that I can temporarily explore Bionic Beaver? (remember, I have no CD/DVD drive).  Thank you in advance for any suggestions or observations.01:49
krytarikxubuntu38w: If your existing Linux installation uses Grub2 to boot, then you could have it boot the ISO from hard disk.  Otherwise, an USB stick is an option, of course.01:53
xubuntu38wOK, thanks krytarik, yes, I use Grub2.   I'll put it on a flash drive and boot from that medium.  You answered my question.  G'night.01:55
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xubuntu15wXubuntu 3.19.0-80 upgrade form 3.19.0.25 and mouse will not work, how to get in there to fix?02:29
KumoolWill installing daemontools mess with systemd?03:03
Kumoolnvm, not installing it03:16
nevada1Xubuntu feels so nice and lightweight. I just booted it up in VirtualBox.18:13
nevada1Props to the team working on it.18:13
UnlimiterIs it safe if I changed the line `root❌0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash` in "/etc/passwd" to a one that contains my home directory instead of root's one? (I asked here because I can't access ##linux)20:09
KumoolUnlimiter: its not safe20:20
UnlimiterCan you explain why?20:20
Unlimiterdoes the root home dir gets overwrited?20:21
KumoolThere are things you should do in root that you should not do as a user20:21
Kumooland yes, there are programs that write to the root home dir20:22
UnlimiterKumool: but, do they overwrite all of it?20:24
Kumoolwhat?20:25
UnlimiterKumool: Nevermind. And, will they write to my home dir if I set root as its user20:25
Kumoolthere will be files in your home directory that will be created as root, which wont permit you from accessing them20:26
Kumoolyou can sudo chmod20:26
Kumoolafter20:26
UnlimiterKumool: what I want to do, is be root forever20:26
Kumoolthat is a terrible idea20:26
UnlimiterI know, safety20:26
Kumoolits not a bad idea, but so far seems farfetched for linux20:28
Unlimiteryeah :P20:28
Kumoolyou could include yourself in the root group20:29
KumoolI think that might work20:30
UnlimiterI did, but when I, for example, create a file as root, I can't remove it as myself20:30
Kumoolof course not20:30
Unlimiterso, being in the root group doesn't mean you have root privileges20:32
Unlimiterentirely20:32
Kumoolwhat file are you trying to erase?20:32
UnlimiterKumool: just a regular file in my home dir20:32
UnlimiterNot a problem20:33
UnlimiterI know what I need to do20:33
Kumoolyou need to give yourself write permissions for the group20:33
KumoolI think20:33
Unlimiterwrite permissions?20:33
Unlimiteraren't those just for files20:33
Unlimiter?20:33
Kumoolchmod 077020:34
KumoolUnlimiter: everything is a file in unix20:34
UnlimiterKumool: even groups?20:34
Kumoolmostly everything20:34
Kumooltry doing ls -l on that file20:34
Unlimiter`-rw-r--r--`20:35
Unlimiter`-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 27 21:34 test`20:35
Kumoolso, the first rwx is the owner, which is root (the first one), the second is the group, which is also root, and the third is other, so everyone else20:36
Unlimiteryup20:36
Kumoolif you are part of the root group, and if the file is ----rwx--- then you can erase it20:36
Unlimiterokay20:37
UnlimiterI know I gotta use `sudo` but, it's really exhausting20:38
Unlimitereverytime...20:38
Kumoolyou can just change to root using su20:38
UnlimiterKumool: I know, but I gotta be careful20:38
Kumool...20:39
Unlimiterand the home dir will be root's20:39
Unlimiterif I used su20:39
Kumoolno, using su is different than sudo20:40
KumoolI mean, yes, you are right20:40
Kumoolbut you don't have to be careful20:40
Kumoolyou still do, but at least you won't have to keep running sudo for everything20:41
Unlimiterit's really useful, but the only notch here, is that the home dir (`~`) will be `/root` not mine20:42
Unlimiterso if I did `cd`, it will go to `/root`20:42
* Unlimiter exits from the 2nd toilet of the 1st floor20:47
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