[01:35] <xubuntu38w> Hello, I am new to using this type of chat service.  I have forumalted a question about Bionic Beaver with screen shots.  Is this the appropriate place to ask the question and post screen shots?  Thank you for your patience.
[01:42] <krytarik> xubuntu38w: Depends on the question really, just start by asking it.
[01:47] <xubuntu38w> OK, thank you.  Here is the question and is there a way to show screen shots on this forum?  Question: Hello,  My goal is to explore temporarily Bionic Beaver without installing it to my HD.  I am attempting to help a friend with her Xubuntu 18.04 OS. I run Puppy-linux 6.05 64bit Frugal install from partition sda1. My friend lives in another town, so, I thought I'd download Bionic Beaver and try out the desktop version so that I 
[01:48] <xubuntu38w> Oppps! looks like amount of text is limited.
[01:49] <xubuntu38w> My friend lives in another town, so, I thought I'd download Bionic Beaver and try out the desktop version so that I can view the screens she is referencing. My machine is: HP HDX Premium Series 64 bit   4GB RAM plus swap  Processor is:  Intell Core 2 Duo CPU T9400 @ 2.53GHz 2534.00MHz  Intell Core 2 Duo CPU T9400 @ 2.53GHz 800.00MHz  The machine has no CD/DVD drive.  I downloaded 18.04 64bit iso from official Xubuntu site. Hash M
[01:49] <xubuntu38w> The file is on my second partion sda2. The file shows as a raw cd image. Clicking on the cd image mounts the file. But nothing else activates.  How do I activate the raw cd image so that I can temporarily explore Bionic Beaver? (remember, I have no CD/DVD drive).  Thank you in advance for any suggestions or observations.
[01:53] <krytarik> xubuntu38w: If your existing Linux installation uses Grub2 to boot, then you could have it boot the ISO from hard disk.  Otherwise, an USB stick is an option, of course.
[01:55] <xubuntu38w> OK, thanks krytarik, yes, I use Grub2.   I'll put it on a flash drive and boot from that medium.  You answered my question.  G'night.
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[02:29] <xubuntu15w> Xubuntu 3.19.0-80 upgrade form 3.19.0.25 and mouse will not work, how to get in there to fix?
[03:03] <Kumool> Will installing daemontools mess with systemd?
[03:16] <Kumool> nvm, not installing it
[18:13] <nevada1> Xubuntu feels so nice and lightweight. I just booted it up in VirtualBox.
[18:13] <nevada1> Props to the team working on it.
[20:09] <Unlimiter> Is it safe if I changed the line `root❌0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash` in "/etc/passwd" to a one that contains my home directory instead of root's one? (I asked here because I can't access ##linux)
[20:20] <Kumool> Unlimiter: its not safe
[20:20] <Unlimiter> Can you explain why?
[20:21] <Unlimiter> does the root home dir gets overwrited?
[20:21] <Kumool> There are things you should do in root that you should not do as a user
[20:22] <Kumool> and yes, there are programs that write to the root home dir
[20:24] <Unlimiter> Kumool: but, do they overwrite all of it?
[20:25] <Kumool> what?
[20:25] <Unlimiter> Kumool: Nevermind. And, will they write to my home dir if I set root as its user
[20:26] <Kumool> there will be files in your home directory that will be created as root, which wont permit you from accessing them
[20:26] <Kumool> you can sudo chmod
[20:26] <Kumool> after
[20:26] <Unlimiter> Kumool: what I want to do, is be root forever
[20:26] <Kumool> that is a terrible idea
[20:26] <Unlimiter> I know, safety
[20:28] <Kumool> its not a bad idea, but so far seems farfetched for linux
[20:28] <Unlimiter> yeah :P
[20:29] <Kumool> you could include yourself in the root group
[20:30] <Kumool> I think that might work
[20:30] <Unlimiter> I did, but when I, for example, create a file as root, I can't remove it as myself
[20:30] <Kumool> of course not
[20:32] <Unlimiter> so, being in the root group doesn't mean you have root privileges
[20:32] <Unlimiter> entirely
[20:32] <Kumool> what file are you trying to erase?
[20:32] <Unlimiter> Kumool: just a regular file in my home dir
[20:33] <Unlimiter> Not a problem
[20:33] <Unlimiter> I know what I need to do
[20:33] <Kumool> you need to give yourself write permissions for the group
[20:33] <Kumool> I think
[20:33] <Unlimiter> write permissions?
[20:33] <Unlimiter> aren't those just for files
[20:33] <Unlimiter> ?
[20:34] <Kumool> chmod 0770
[20:34] <Kumool> Unlimiter: everything is a file in unix
[20:34] <Unlimiter> Kumool: even groups?
[20:34] <Kumool> mostly everything
[20:34] <Kumool> try doing ls -l on that file
[20:35] <Unlimiter> `-rw-r--r--`
[20:35] <Unlimiter> `-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 27 21:34 test`
[20:36] <Kumool> so, the first rwx is the owner, which is root (the first one), the second is the group, which is also root, and the third is other, so everyone else
[20:36] <Unlimiter> yup
[20:36] <Kumool> if you are part of the root group, and if the file is ----rwx--- then you can erase it
[20:37] <Unlimiter> okay
[20:38] <Unlimiter> I know I gotta use `sudo` but, it's really exhausting
[20:38] <Unlimiter> everytime...
[20:38] <Kumool> you can just change to root using su
[20:38] <Unlimiter> Kumool: I know, but I gotta be careful
[20:39] <Kumool> ...
[20:39] <Unlimiter> and the home dir will be root's
[20:39] <Unlimiter> if I used su
[20:40] <Kumool> no, using su is different than sudo
[20:40] <Kumool> I mean, yes, you are right
[20:40] <Kumool> but you don't have to be careful
[20:41] <Kumool> you still do, but at least you won't have to keep running sudo for everything
[20:42] <Unlimiter> it's really useful, but the only notch here, is that the home dir (`~`) will be `/root` not mine
[20:42] <Unlimiter> so if I did `cd`, it will go to `/root`
[20:47]  * Unlimiter exits from the 2nd toilet of the 1st floor
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