[00:00] <tomreyn> yes, pci device 02:00.0
[00:00] <tomreyn> 02:00.0 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd MMC/SD Host Controller (rev 08) (prog-if 01)
[00:01] <anonnumberanon> that's what I'm looking at yes
[00:02] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: this should return just one line, you can post it here: lspci -nns 02:00.0
[00:03] <anonnumberanon> tomreyn, 02:00.0 System peripheral [0880]: Ricoh Co Ltd MMC/SD Host Controller [1180:e822] (rev 08)
[00:03] <qwefytuoityty> swap have free memory, linux without free memory with in swap have free memory - freezes
[00:04] <OerHeks> maybe it is the type of card, SDXC or SDHC card seems to give issues
[00:05] <qwefytuoityty> With Windows no this problem
[00:05] <qwefytuoityty> how bsd i dont know
[00:06] <qwefytuoityty>  how with bsd i dont know
[00:06] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: you don't seem to have an ubuntu support question. so please stop posting here.
[00:06] <qwefytuoityty> dsd i not like in freebsd logo devil
[00:06] <tomreyn> !ot | qwefytuoityty
[00:07] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: i'm reading up on it, give me some minutes
[00:08] <anonnumberanon> tomreyn, same, I reinstalled udisks2, now have to reboot, be right back
[00:10] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: while you're at it: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/THINKPAD-W-SERIES-LAPTOPS/THINKPAD-W530/downloads/DS029170
[00:12] <anonnumberanon> tomreyn, trying this first https://askubuntu.com/questions/364270/mount-error-unknown-filesystem-type-exfat
[00:12] <anonnumberanon> because it is the error that I get when I double-click the SD card
[00:12] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: so it actually works fine
[00:12] <OerHeks> oh, the solution is there on the same page : sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[00:12] <tomreyn> in terms of hardware and driver.
[00:12] <anonnumberanon> oh? okay, so let me try it
[00:12] <qwefytuoityty> ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel - ok. Swap have free memory, Ubuntu without free memory with in swap have free memory - freezes.  Hhow to fix it in ubuntu?
[00:13] <OerHeks> ubuntu can give fat32/ntfs support OOTB, but not exfat, for now.
[00:14] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: read this if there are any driver issues (but so far i assume there are none): http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/SD_Card_slot
[00:14] <OerHeks> qwefytuoityty, so you think your swap is not beiing used?
[00:15] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: yours is PCI ID 1180:e822 whch is probably "Ricoh R5C822"
[00:16] <OerHeks> swapon -s # would show swap details
[00:16] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[00:18] <anonnumberanon> tomreyn, solution above confirmed for working to fix the SD card reader reading from exFat file systems
[00:18] <anonnumberanon> in other words, it works! thanks guys :)
[00:18] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: thanks to OerHeks :)
[00:19] <anonnumberanon> yes
[00:19] <OerHeks> have fun!
[00:19] <anonnumberanon> I'm wondering if I allowed proprietary packages on this machine when I instlaled Ubuntu, what should I look for in my sources.list file?
[00:20] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: you won't be able to tell by that
[00:20] <OerHeks> partner repo, and check your snaps
[00:21] <anonnumberanon> OerHeks, well yes it's for using my DSLR camera, i spent some time learning how to use it and now I take amazing pictures, look this one is cool that I just took this afternoon: https://i.imgur.com/7sNHW7M.jpg
[00:21] <OerHeks> oh, find darktable, and lightroom ...
[00:22] <tomreyn> OerHeks: main contains proprietary packages, too, though
[00:22] <anonnumberanon> oh yes I used to use darktable, gotta get back into it, it's been a few years hehe
[00:23] <anonnumberanon> looks like i have the multiverse repo in my sources.list, that would not contain support for exFat???
[00:23] <anonnumberanon> \
[00:23] <OerHeks> ubuntu-studio photography https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta
[00:23] <OerHeks> !info exfat-fuse
[00:23] <OerHeks> universe, ..
[00:24] <tomreyn> !info exfat-utils
[00:24] <Eickmeyer> OerHeks: That's ubuntustudio-photography for that meta.
[00:24] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: "restricted" is somehting you can look for in sources.list. but it won't help you catch all.
[00:24] <OerHeks> Eickmeyer, correct.
[00:26] <OerHeks> i use ubuntustudio-fonts: -graphics: -photography: -publishing:
[00:28] <qwefytuoityty> if no memory, but in swap (4 GB) have free 3-2,5 GB ubuntu freezes -> and big load on HDD, HDD read ~50MB in this moment. I think that this is a problem with the reading and writing ( queue ) information - Linux does not cope with sending information to the paging file.
[00:28] <qwefytuoityty> Linux does not cope with sending information to the paging file and PC freezes
[00:30] <drleviathan> So I'm using whatever is the default gnome terminal and every once in a while I accidentally hit some key combination that disables the keyboard in that terminal.  I once figured out some magic key-combo to re-enable, but I forget what it is and can't find it again.  Anyone here know what it is?
[00:30] <anonnumberanon> OerHeks, neat, thanks!
[00:31] <qwefytuoityty>  HDD read ~50MB = speed  in this moment
[00:31] <anonnumberanon> tomreyn, yeah my "restricted" one is not turned on...
[00:32] <tomreyn> anonnumberanon: you will be using intel or amd microcode, though, if you have one of those CPUs. also linux-firmware.
[00:34] <qwefytuoityty> strange for me, but reading hdd at this moment it is almost equal to zero
[00:38] <qwefytuoityty> not reading. strange for me, but writing hdd at this moment it is almost equal to zero
[00:39] <qwefytuoityty> en not my lang
[00:39] <qwefytuoityty>  HDD read ~50MB = speed  in this moment - tru
[00:39] <qwefytuoityty> true
[00:43] <tomreyn> !ru
[00:50] <qwefytuoityty> How to reproduce the problem: any motherboard with SATA2, disk 5400-7200rpm. Use the browser until the memory runs out, and will begin an intensive write in swap, somewhere at the level of filling swap 10 - 20% Ubuntu freezes
[00:51] <qwefytuoityty> i use firefox
[00:54] <OerHeks> so you wonder why your system freezes while you open multiple firefox pages, not fast enough writing to disk and reading it, when you open *that* tab again ..
[00:59] <qwefytuoityty> or fast reproduce the problem: start xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-mate with 1GB memory in virtual machine and start firefox, and open one or two tabs.
[01:00] <qwefytuoityty> and start firefox, and open one or two tabs in virtual machine. host SATA2, disk 5400-7200rpm
[01:01] <blitzcrg> quit
[01:01] <blitzcrg> oops
[01:05] <qwefytuoityty> start xubuntu or lubuntu or ubuntu-mate
[01:06] <OerHeks> 1 Gb is below specs.
[01:06] <OerHeks> 2 gb would be standard, minimum, but 64 bit certainly 4 gb, even for a vm.
[01:17] <qwefytuoityty> does not arrange variant with the virtual machine it is possible to buy the motherboard with SATA2 and HDD 5400, 7200 rpm, use 16 GB memory -> and use the browser until the memory runs out next  use with the paging file. Checking with ssd, with sata3 it is not correct check.
[01:21] <qwefytuoityty> i have 4 gb
[01:24] <qwefytuoityty> i have ssd and swap partition on ssd, OS on HDD 7200 rpm, SSD not help. SATA2
[01:27] <qwefytuoityty> ssd as swap for windows - well
[02:31] <yvyz> I wish he was still here. It sounds like his swap space is largely below his memory size.
[02:41] <breetai> I cant log into a desktop and /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows: Unable to open binary database /usr/share/command-not-found/programs.d/all-multiverse.db: [Errno 22] Invalid argument
[02:43] <yvyz> breetai: what does -> sudo apt-get -f install say?
[02:44] <breetai> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[02:45] <yvyz> can you -> sudo apt-get update ?
[02:45] <breetai> As soon as the dpg --configure -a  is done
[02:45] <yvyz> ok
[02:45] <breetai> yvyz: thank you for helping
[02:45] <yvyz> np
[02:49] <yvyz> breetai: let me know how it ends up
[02:51] <breetai> yvyz: well I am in oregon, my brother is in Alaska, I have a reverse tunnel from his main PC to mine, he got the laptop with the problem onto the network, I have just done the apt-get install -f
[02:51] <breetai> it is still running but it looks like X is rolling thru to the desktop.
[02:51] <yvyz> Good
[02:52] <breetai> yvyz: it is an old dell 910 mini inspiron netbook. so it is not fast, this will take a bit.
[02:52] <yvyz> ok
[02:58] <breetai> yvyz: thanks, it is still running the update, but they are actually at the desktop, so things are looking good. once done, I will have them roboot.
[02:58] <yvyz> Great to hear
[03:10] <breetai> yvyz: Thanks again it is 100%
[03:11] <yvyz> Np. Glad it works!
[03:29] <nightshift> I've got two *nix machines (one ubuntu, one raspbian) running as servers. If I set a mailserver up on just one of them, can the other be configured to use the first for handling it's mail, or do I have to set up mail services on both?
[03:35] <yvyz> Do you intend for one of those machines to handle email as a public exchange?
[03:35] <yvyz> As in, do you intend on configuring an MX record for your domain.com to point to your mailserver?
[03:36] <nightshift> yvyz: no, it's internal, lan only
[03:36] <nightshift> I wouldn't even be able to reach it while away from home
[03:36] <yvyz> If not, you can configure an exchange to simply be an SMTP exchange that all machines use for email.
[03:37] <yvyz> It depends on what you want to do to, manage multiple mailboxes?
[03:37] <nightshift> Might be easier to explain my relevent topology, and what I want it to do...
[03:39] <yvyz> Yea shoot. But I am assuming its for managing log and error notifications?
[03:40] <nightshift> Exactly, with root+1 users on each server, I want all system generated log and error notifications to be redirected to my user mailbox on my *nix workstation
[03:42] <nightshift> (plus whatever users are created by the various services of course, but only root+1 have login ability)
[03:44] <yvyz> ok
[03:45] <yvyz> Well, theres a couple of ways you could achieve this.
[03:46] <yvyz> Depending on how you want to review the emails from your workstation.
[03:47] <yvyz> 1) You could configure one of your machines to be a simple postfix SMTP relay, and configure all your notifying machines to use that relay with something like -> mail -s "Subject" your@actualemail.com
[03:48] <yvyz> 2) You could configure that machine with postfix and something like dovecot + cubes to provide individual mailboxes. Your machines would then both USE and SEND emails TOO that machines like -> mail -s "Subject" mailboxname@ip. You could then log into that account from some webinterface, or setup your workstations mail client for IMAP/POP
[03:50] <yvyz> 3) You could simple configure postfix with accounts on your local workstation (assuming linux) and use your workstation as the SMTP relay / exchange. In which case you could easily just -> mutt <- to access your mailboxes.
[03:51] <whoareU> i can't login in desktop interface , when i enter the right name and password  , then it return back, but i use command login then use startx command line , it can enter desktop
[03:52] <nightshift> Is there a way I can use mutt, while having postfix actually reside on one of the servers?
[03:52] <yvyz> whoareU: In the login prompt, are you able to select a desktop session? (gnome)
[03:52] <yvyz> nightshift: Yes.
[03:52] <yvyz> nightshift: You can configure mutt for IMAP/POP as you would any other mail client.
[03:53] <yvyz> nightshift: What you want is a real SMTP server. Not just a relay. So you can keep the services separate and the interaction simpler for your machines. That is if you do want to run a local exchange.
[03:54] <yvyz> Then you can log in to that machine with a mail client from anywhere on your network that you allow.
[03:54] <whoareU> yvyz: i can't select session ,
[03:54] <nightshift> yvys: yes, a real server, so, postfix plus dovecot?
[03:55] <yvyz> nightshift: Postfix + dovecot is a fairly straightforward solution. There are a ton of examples and walkthroughs for them.
[03:55] <whoareU> yvyz: i reinstall ubuntu-desktop , it  still doesn't work
[03:55] <nightshift> Thank you yvyz, I can find those.
[03:56] <yvyz> nightshift: np
[03:58] <yvyz> whoareU: run -> uname -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:58] <yvyz> And paste the link
[04:02] <Time-Warp> when did ubuntu start rolling out the packages with ubuntu-restricted-addons
[04:03] <Time-Warp> 18.10 is prodigious
[04:03] <yvyz> whoareU: ?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Time-Warp: explain a bit what you mean?
[04:05] <yvyz> Time-Warp: When you install with GUI did you select auto install 3rd party codecs?
[04:05] <Time-Warp> just ran a new install and ran apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-addons i think i selected the 3rd party addons
[04:05] <Time-Warp> yea :D
[04:05] <yvyz> <3
[04:05] <Time-Warp> that option is really nice
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> Time-Warp: join #ubuntu-discuss to share your feelings
[04:14] <whoareU> yvyz:https://img.vim-cn.com/12/3f5d25b4d8f4bac57cf163d6b3c3d57bc13781.png
[04:15] <yvyz> whoareU: Not sure why you posted that, but. I was going to suggest you ctl-alt-f3, log in to your account, and run -> sudo rm ~/.Xauthority
[04:18] <root> hi
[04:19] <root> 有人吗
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | root
[04:19] <Guest86222> 有人吗
[04:19] <Guest86222> 1
[04:20] <Guest86222> 咋一进一退
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> !zh | Guest86222
[04:21] <whoareU> yvyz: my pc work abnormal ,  i apologize  that leting you wait too long
[04:22] <yvyz> That is OK. I understand. Lets try to fix your xsession first. One step at a time.
[04:22] <yvyz> whoareU: ctl-alt-f3, log in to your account, and run -> sudo rm ~/.Xauthority
[04:23] <yvyz> whoareU: and then go back to your GUI TTY session, and try to log in again.
[04:23] <Guest86222> No one in the Chinese group, I am also helpless.
[04:23] <Guest86222> 报错
[04:23] <Guest86222> 双语对照
[04:24] <yvyz> 你有什么问题？
[04:24] <Guest86222> root用户没声音
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest86222: only english here please
[04:26] <Guest86222> Root account is silent
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Guest86222: log out irc and join back without root
[04:26] <yvyz> Guest86222: 这是有目的的。 Pulseaudio不会为root执行。 建议您不要直接登录root。 创建用户帐户并使用sudo。
[04:27] <yvyz> ^ "That is intended. Pulseaudio does not execute for root. It is suggested that you do not log into root directly. Create a user account and use sudo."
[04:27] <Guest86222> okok
[04:27] <yvyz> Guest86222: see: https://askubuntu.com/questions/232674/ubuntu-root-sound-problem
[04:27] <yvyz> Guest86222: 和平与运气 :: Peace, and good luck
[04:28] <Guest86222> Thank you. I see.
[04:28] <Guest86222> Are you Dalao?
[04:29] <yvyz> No.
[04:29] <yvyz> I think. lol
[04:29] <Guest86222> I won't use this software.
[04:30] <yvyz> Is there a reason that you need to log in as root directly?
[04:30] <Guest86222> bey
[04:31] <Guest86222> I'm looking online.
[05:19] <siwica> Where in the file systems are the short access menu-items to directories stored?
[05:20] <siwica> The ones that are shown in Nautilus, an "Open File" dialog, ...
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> siwica: explain your endgoal to the channel please, so volunteers can think along
[05:22] <siwica> I want to add custom folders for quick access in an "Open File" dialog
[05:23] <siwica> At the moment I have: Documents, Music, Pictures, Videos
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> siwica: didnt test myself, but you could take a look on dconf-editor maybe
[05:27] <yvyz> Oh, yout want nautilus to show more folder next to Home, Desktop, Documents?
[05:28] <yvyz> from within nautilus: navigate to the folder you want to display on the left side and click: ctrl+d
[05:28] <yvyz> They are called "Bookmarks"
[05:28] <siwica> yvyz: Yes. Also I want to remove some of the existing ones.
[05:29] <siwica> yvyz: Are they saved in some text file? I'd rather specify them there then messing with the GUI.
[05:29] <yvyz> siwica: vim .config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks
[05:29] <OerHeks> i think you need nautilus-extentions, and nautilus -admin, for custom entries
[05:29] <yvyz> Just edit the bookmarks file located at: .config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks
[05:30] <yvyz> -> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks <- to be precise
[05:31] <siwica> yvyz: Ah, perfekt. Thanks!
[05:31] <yvyz> np
[05:32] <tamarind> hey guys, what do you feel about the firefox sync ? i don't have an account yet and wondering whether it is safe to sync all user passwords, bookmarks to their servers
[05:33] <tamarind> do you guys use it as well ?
[05:33] <tamarind> need your view points please
[05:33] <OerHeks> i worry about bookmarks, yes
[05:34] <tamarind> OerHeks, what ! passwords ? that a joke ?
[05:35] <OerHeks> oh, you don't store bookmarks in firefox?
[05:35] <yvyz> This is not ontopic.
[06:11] <CriticalCow> hello
[06:12] <ExoUNX> hi
[06:13] <CriticalCow> im a friend of vuur anyone know him
[06:13] <ExoUNX> possibly, but the channel is quiet at the moment
[06:13] <CriticalCow> ah i see
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> CriticalCow: yes we seen vuurdraak, do you have an ubuntu question?
[06:14] <CriticalCow> nah
[06:14] <CriticalCow> im meeting with an old friend sorry
[06:18] <CriticalCow> lotuspsychje is vuur also on as vuurdraak?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> CriticalCow: ask your friend, this channel is for ubuntu questions only
[06:19] <CriticalCow> oh sorry
[06:19] <CriticalCow> its just hes not currently online
[06:30] <Uleepera> #ubuntu-us-pa
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[07:35] <yachef> Hi! Can someone help me?
[07:37] <yachef> I have a problem related to my Wifi connection, it is extremly slow on Ubuntu whereas it works well on Windows 10
[07:40] <yachef> I have a problem related to my Wifi connection, it is extremly slow on Ubuntu whereas it works well on Windows 10 am i on the right channel to ask the question?
[07:40] <yvyz> Please describe what you mean by slow?
[07:41] <yachef> It takes a long time to reach web pages
[07:41] <yachef> Videos can't even be launched
[07:41] <ducasse> yvyz: what's your wifi chipset?
[07:41] <ducasse> yachef: ^^
[07:42] <yachef> I am quite a beginner, sorry, i am on a laptop, but i can't tell you what's my chipset, is there a command line to find it ?
[07:42] <ducasse> yachef: pastebin the output of 'sudo lshw -C network'
[07:43] <yachef> *-network
[07:43] <yachef>        description: Interface réseau sans fil
[07:43] <yachef>        produit: BCM43142 802.11b/g/n
[07:43] <yachef>        fabriquant: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries
[07:43] <yachef>        identifiant matériel: 0
[07:43] <yachef>        information bus: pci@0000:08:00.0
[07:44] <ducasse> !paste | yachef
[07:45] <ducasse> yachef: but don't worry about it now, you have a broadcom chipset.
[07:46] <yachef> What should i do then?
[07:47] <ducasse> i don't have much experience with broadcom, sorry. you can look at the following wiki page if there is any help there.
[07:48] <ducasse> !broadcom
[07:48] <yachef> Perfect, i am going to check, thanks!
[07:48] <yvyz> yachef: https://askubuntu.com/a/38700
[07:51] <yachef> yvyz : thanks!!
[08:18] <V7> Hey all
[08:18] <V7> Could anyone help with "Could not find key with description"?
[08:18] <V7> Encryptfs
[08:18] <V7> Can't login via SSH from remote without login locally firstly
[08:32] <ryuo> V7: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47122/cant-do-ssh-public-key-login-under-encrypted-home
[08:34] <V7> ryuo: Oh dear
[08:34] <V7> Thank you, but ...
[08:34] <V7> This is insane.
[08:35] <ryuo> well, it's to be expected. when it isn't mounted, ssh can't find your key.
[08:35] <ryuo> when you login first, it can.
[08:35] <V7> Yes, but there's should a normal workaround.
[08:35] <V7> s/'s//
[08:38] <V7> An author of encryptfs should add SSH support
[08:41] <ducasse> it supports ssh just fine, the key just needs to be stored somewhere it can be read
[10:14] <yachef> Hi! I have a problem related to my Wifi connection, it is extremly slow on Ubuntu whereas it works well on Windows. My chipset is a Broadcom one and the driver looks updated (downloaded from Additional Drivers on Ubuntu)
[10:15] <yachef> Hi! I have a problem related to my Wifi connection, it is extremly slow on Ubuntu whereas it works well on Windows. My chipset is a Broadcom one and the driver looks updated (downloaded from Additional Drivers on Ubuntu)
[10:18] <yachef> Hi! I have a problem related to my Wifi connection, it is extremly slow on Ubuntu whereas it works well on Windows. My chipset is a Broadcom one and the driver looks updated (downloaded from Additional Drivers on Ubuntu)
[10:33] <yvyz> !spam
[10:34] <yvyz> yachef: Did you go through the steps in the links we provided?
[10:46] <ronyg24> Hey, so I'm on 18.04 and my internal mic is not working.
[10:46] <ronyg24> I tried pauvocontrol, but it gets reset after one trial.
[10:46] <ronyg24> Any idea on how I can fix that?
[11:21] <add1ctus> Hi! I'm having a problem with VirtualBox. When I try to start a virtual machine it gives me an error and tells me to run /sbin/vboxconfig as root for setup. But when I try that, I get "vboxdrv.sh: failed: modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why.". When I try dmesg (both with or without sudo), there isn't a single line related to this error, as the last one is from my printer drivers (I always get this on boot, it
[11:21] <add1ctus> to troubleshoot this?
[11:22] <yvyz> add1ctus: What is the error it prints before it says to sduo /sbin/vboxconfig?
[11:22] <yvyz> And OS version and VirtualBox version are you running?
[11:23] <add1ctus> yvyz: Running Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS, the message is "The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing '/sbin/vboxconfig' as root."
[11:23] <add1ctus> VirtualBox 6.0.4
[11:25] <add1ctus> yvyz: Also says "where: suplibOsInit what: 3 VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (-1908) - The support driver is not installed. On linux, open returned ENOENT." after that message
[11:25] <yvyz> 1) Most likely the kernel driver that needs to be installed must be compiled locally or the dependency is unable to be found/downloaded.
[11:26] <yvyz> 2) The best thing  you could do is install VirtualBox from the Oracle distribution list directly: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads#Debian-basedLinuxdistributions
[11:27] <yvyz> Or,
[11:28] <yvyz> You could attempt to reinstall virtualbox via apt directly. "sudo apt-get autoremove virtualbox-dkms" then "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` dkms virtualbox-dkms" then then manually enable the kernel drivers via modprobe with "sudo modprobe vboxdrv && sudo modprobe vboxnetflt"
[11:28] <yvyz> I suggest you attempt the latter first, and if that does not succeed to try and install directly from the oracle package I listed above.
[11:34] <yvyz> add1ctus: ?
[11:37] <add1ctus_> yvyz: Sorry, had to restart my laptop as a part of the installation process. I tried the latter approach. Care to repeat the last step I need to do? (after the apt install)
[11:37] <yvyz> You could attempt to reinstall virtualbox via apt directly. "sudo apt-get autoremove virtualbox-dkms" then "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` dkms virtualbox-dkms" then then manually enable the kernel drivers via modprobe with "sudo modprobe vboxdrv && sudo modprobe vboxnetflt"
[11:38] <add1ctus_> Now I'm getting "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Required key not available"
[11:38] <add1ctus_> When I tried the apt install step, a prompt came up (think it was because of secure boot) asking me for a password, saying that it will restart and ask me for the password when it boots up again. But the restart failed and I had to do it manually. Might be the reason?
[11:39] <yvyz> Yes, that is the reason
[11:40] <add1ctus_> yvyz: Should I try running the installer again, or is there another way to fix this?
[11:40] <yvyz> Run it again.
[11:40] <yvyz> At this point you will need to
[11:43] <add1ctus_> yvyz: I got to the same password step again. Anything I should do in advance to make sure the restart doesn't fail again? What do I do if it does?
[11:44] <yvyz> Use your password. Restart. If it fails, i would want you to install from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads#Debian-basedLinuxdistributions <- And to follow its directions
[11:48] <add1ctus> yvyz: Just wanted to let you know that it works now. Thanks!
[11:49] <yvyz> Awesome!
[11:49] <yvyz> NP man.
[11:49] <yvyz> Its the ubuntu version of "turning it off, and on again"
[11:54] <wheresvic> lol
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:54] <yvyz> o/
[12:24] <sazawal> Hello. I have mistakenly deleted all the Windows partitions during Lubuntu 18.10 installation. Then I started reinstalling Lubuntu with a Live USB by 1) booting in UEFI mode, 2) Creating a new GPT partition table, 3) Creating a 200 mb partition at /boot/efi with the flag "esp", 4) Creating swap space and other partitions. After the installation I am getting Boost.Python error in job "bootloader". Here is the screenshot https://pa
[12:24] <sazawal> steboard.co/I3y7sHa.png
[12:26] <jeremy31> sazawal: If Windows is gone, just install with "use entire disk" option
[12:26] <BluesKaj> sazawal, post the irl again , you split it
[12:26] <BluesKaj> url
[12:27] <sazawal> BluesKaj, Here https://pasteboard.co/I3y7sHa.png
[12:28] <sazawal> jeremy31, But I want separate partitions for system files and personal files. What about the swap space?
[12:29] <jeremy31> sazawal: It should use a swap file and you can make a /home partition after installing
[12:29] <BluesKaj> sazawal, best to use manual partitioning intead of auto
[12:30] <sazawal> jeremy31, I could try this.
[12:31] <sazawal> BluesKaj, I have used the manual partitioning only. So the partitions I made were 1) EFI 2) Swap 3) / for system files 4) /home/ for personal files.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> sazawal, during the install?
[12:32] <jeremy31> sazawal: was the EFI partition using fat32 with esp and boot flag?
[12:33] <sazawal> BluesKaj,  Yes during the installation, or better to say prior to installation, the installer asks for it.
[12:34] <sazawal> jeremy31, EFI was fat32 with esp flag and /boot/efi mountpoint
[12:34] <BluesKaj> sazawal, ok
[12:34] <sazawal> jeremy31, Do you mean I should put two flags there, boot and esp?
[12:36] <jeremy31> sazawal: what result from terminal for> mokutil --sb-state
[12:36] <sazawal> BluesKaj, jeremy31, Also I created a GPT partition table before making partitions. I am not sure if MBR or GPT are the right ones for it.
[12:37] <sazawal> jeremy31, On running this from Live USB, it says "This system doesn't support Secure Boot"
[12:38] <jeremy31> sazawal: can you find a /sys/firmware/efi directory?
[12:38] <sazawal> yes i do
[12:40] <jeremy31> sazawal: any contents? anything in efivars subdirectory?
[12:42] <zetheroo> I'm trying to sort this issue with Gthumb out - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gthumb/issues/36 - but I'm being asked to 'install debug packages for glib2, gtk3 and gthumb'. What packages would those be in 18.04?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> sazawal, then you might need to disable secure boot in the bios. Maybe it's set to legacy bios?
[12:45] <sazawal> jeremy31, It has 3 subdirectories vars, runtime-map and efivars, and other files. The subdirectories also have contents.
[12:46] <jeremy31> sazawal: check BIOS settings to see if it is set to EFI only
[12:46] <sazawal> BluesKaj, I didn't find secure boot option in the BIOS. And I have chosen "UEFI Only" in the boot choice out of "Legacy Only/UEFI Only/Both"
[12:46] <BluesKaj> sazawal, ok
[12:48] <BluesKaj> think jeremy31 has better handle on your situation than me, so I'll defer to his suggestions
[12:49] <sazawal> BluesKaj, jeremy31 Another thing, when I was booting into the Live USB, after selecting the language, it was showing "1.55 no irq handler vectors" or something like that. But it booted into the Live USB anyway after that.
[12:53] <jeremy31> sazawal: Try an automatic install with no internet connection as this might be related to some 18.04 grub install issues that happened in July
[12:54] <sazawal> jeremy31, I am trying it right away.
[13:08] <pavlushka> for caching debs, what setup is needed? on a home network?
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: explain your end goal please, you want to download debs locally?
[13:18] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: like I have multiple debian system on my home network, for updating each, the same file needed to be downloaded over and over again, can any setup save the hassle?
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: here is the uubntu channel right
[13:20] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: ok, my debians are all ubuntu variants, that satisfies :p (was generalizing a bit)
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> debian ubuntu variants lol, wish Os is that
[13:22] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: ok, these are ubuntu-mate, lubuntu and ubuntu's
[13:22] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: you can lol again
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: do you control all the computers over an ubuntu-server, that could be automated?
[13:24] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: yes, there are some RPIs also
[13:25] <ducasse> pavlushka: apt-cacher-ng is pretty commonly used for this, i imagine
[13:25] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: I maintain those from my machine through ssh.
[13:26] <sazawal> jeremy31, I got exactly the same error for auto partitioning.
[13:29] <SimonNL> sazawal: and without internet connection ?
[13:29] <sazawal> SimonNL, Yes without internet.
[13:29] <ioria> sazawal, what error ?
[13:30] <sazawal> ioria, here https://pasteboard.co/I3y7sHa.png
[13:30] <pavlushka> ducasse: nice, but what should be the best setup for that (in the network)?
[13:30] <pavlushka> I meant the diagram
[13:31] <ioria> sazawal,   it's lubuntu ?
[13:31] <sazawal> ioria, Yes
[13:32]  * pavlushka reading https://wiki.debian.org/AptCacherNg
[13:32] <ioria> sazawal,   in the meanwhile , download lubu 18.04
[13:33] <sazawal> ioria, if you say so. But can't this be fixed in 18.10?
[13:33] <ioria> sazawal,   idk, might be a calamere thing
[13:33] <ioria> *calamares
[13:34] <ducasse> pavlushka: what do you mean diagram? just run it on a server the others have access to and point them to it
[13:34] <sazawal> that is the installer?
[13:35] <ioria> yup
[13:35] <pavlushka> ducasse: yep, got it (I thought I had to hook it up to the router as NAS)
[13:36] <ducasse> pavlushka: not necessary, aiui
[13:37] <pavlushka> ducasse: I got the "not necessary" part only, lol
[13:38] <ioria> sazawal,  if the installation  has finished, you can also try to re-boot  the livecd, and reinstall grub
[13:39] <sazawal> ioria, Yes it is finished with the error. I have never reinstalled grub, can you help me with this?
[13:39] <ducasse> pavlushka: 'aiui' = 'as i understand it', if that's what you mean
[13:40] <pavlushka> exactly
[13:40] <ioria> sazawal,  boot again the livecd in 'Try' mode
[13:42] <ioria> sazawal,  the iso you used is 64-bit or 32 ?
[13:42] <sazawal> ioria, it is 64-bit. now I am rebooting with the Live USB
[13:43] <sazawal> ioria, Ok, I am ready with the Live USB. How do I fix the grub?
[13:43] <ioria> sazawal,  sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:45] <sazawal> ioria, Temporary failure in name resolution. Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[13:45] <ioria> sazawal,  do you have connectivity ?
[13:46] <sazawal> yes, let me connect.
[13:48] <sazawal> ioria, Okay, now the same warning but it is trying to connect to termbin.com/tne8
[13:51] <ioria> sazawal,  sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[13:51] <sazawal> ioria, The last command is still running. What should I do with that?
[13:51] <ioria> sazawal,  ctrl+c
[13:52] <sazawal> ok
[13:52] <sazawal> ioria, Okay mounted, now?
[13:52] <ioria> sazawal,  ls -R/mnt/sys/firmware/efi   | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:52] <ioria> sazawal,  ls -R /mnt/sys/firmware/efi   | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:53] <Anywhere> gabmus[m]: just wanted to thank you and let you know your help evenually led to me being able to use the touchpad. This, and the post below it is what did it, together with a newer kernel https://forum.manjaro.org/t/all-issues-with-ryzen-2500u-rx560x-acer-nitro-5-an515-42/59156/103
[13:54] <sazawal> ioria, /mnt/sys/firmware/efi': no such file or directory
[13:54] <ioria> sazawal,  ok, uname -r ? you can paste here
[13:55] <sazawal> ioria, 4.18.0-10-generic
[13:55] <ioria> sazawal,  and this ? ls -R /sys/firmware/efi       you got output ?
[13:56] <sazawal> ioria, yes a long list, of files?
[13:57] <ioria> sazawal,  ok;   for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[13:58] <sazawal> ioria, okay done.
[13:59] <ioria> sazawal,  sudo chroot /mnt
[13:59] <sazawal> ioria, okay done
[13:59] <ioria> sazawal,  mount -a
[13:59] <sazawal> ioria, okay done
[14:00] <ioria> sazawal,  grub-install && update-grub
[14:02] <sazawal> ioria, Installing for blabla platform. Could not prepare boot variable: No such file or directory. grub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error.
[14:02] <jeremy31> I think /dev/sda1 has to be mounted as /mnt/boot/efi
[14:03] <ioria> jeremy31, mount -a should have done the job ....
[14:04] <ioria> jeremy31,  ls -R boot ; what you see ?
[14:04] <ioria> sorry
[14:04] <ioria> sazawal,   ls -R boot ; what you see ?
[14:05] <sazawal> ioria, A long list or *.mod files
[14:05] <EriC^> sazawal: that faults likely mean the nvram is read only
[14:06] <EriC^> it's an efibootmgr error, last part of grub-install when it adds the entry to uefi list
[14:06] <sazawal> EriC^ is it fixable?
[14:07] <ioria> EriC^, mounting the  efivarfs might help ?
[14:10] <ioria> sazawal,  try this :  mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
[14:12] <sazawal> ioria, okay done
[14:12] <EriC^> sazawal: yeah you could always just use the default booting entries location
[14:12] <EriC^> sazawal: type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:12] <ioria> sazawal,  update-grub
[14:13] <sazawal> Should I do update-grub now?
[14:13] <EriC^> it's a grub-install error
[14:13] <EriC^> sazawal: try the command above with termbin
[14:13] <ioria> sazawal,  and  then  try again    grub-install -v --target=x86_64-efi --recheck /dev/sda
[14:14] <sazawal> wait wait, so I am running the termbin command now.
[14:16] <sazawal> ioria, EriC^, termbin command finished with no errors or warnings. Now I will run the "grub-install -v..." command
[14:16] <EriC^> sazawal: what's the link it gave you? xD
[14:16] <ioria> sazawal,  maybe we want the url
[14:16] <sazawal> termbin.com/xe2m
[14:17] <sazawal> Let me know when to proceed.
[14:17] <EriC^> sazawal: ok, type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:18] <sazawal> termbin.com/j9bn
[14:19] <EriC^> sazawal: ok seems the efi file is in the efi/boot/bootx64.efi location (default)
[14:20] <EriC^> sazawal: we could also add the windows one just to be sure
[14:20] <EriC^> sazawal: mkdir -p /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot
[14:20] <EriC^> sazawal: then cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[14:21] <EriC^> sazawal: finally "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi/ /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot"
[14:21] <gabmus[m]> <freenode_Any "gabmus: just wanted to thank you"> Anywhere: that's great to know! If you could detail what you did to make it work, I could make an entry on the Arch wiki or somewhere similar to document it.
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows if bionic is supposed to autoclean kernels now, i cant seem to find settings for it
[14:21] <EriC^> sazawal: sorry typo in the last one finally "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot"
[14:23] <CookieM> lotuspsychje, my bionic doesn’t autoclean
[14:23] <rebab> Is 20 GB HDD enough for Ubuntu?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> CookieM: last i heared, it suppose to autoclean like, let current & 2 older kernels remain, and vanish the rest?
[14:24] <EriC^> rebab: it's ok
[14:24] <SubCool> Hey, so i asked somepalce else, but imma ask here too. When i reboot, my ssh is disabled. how do i make it permanently enabled.
[14:24] <sazawal> EriC^ Okay done with the last three commands
[14:24] <CookieM> lotuspsychje, actually it did when I was on 16.04
[14:24] <tomreyn> SubCool: is openssh-server installed?
[14:24] <SubCool> yeah...
[14:25] <EriC^> sazawal: try restarting
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> rebab: you could try the minimal install and/or use bleachbit after to free space
[14:25] <tomreyn> SubCool: which ubuntu version? lsb_release -ds
[14:25] <Anywhere> gabmus[m]: upgraded to 4.19.26, did
[14:25] <Anywhere>     sudo modprobe -r psmouse
[14:25] <Anywhere>     sudo modprobe -v psmouse proto=imps
[14:25] <Anywhere>  and then made grub boot options:
[14:25] <Anywhere>     pci=noaer rcu_nocbs=0-7 ivrs_ioapic[4]=00:14.0 ivrs_ioapic[5]=00:00.2 idle=nomwait psmouse.proto=imps
[14:25] <EriC^> sazawal: set the bios to boot the default stuff, or if it has a "windows installation default" option use that
[14:25] <Anywhere> oh, sorry for spam
[14:26] <SubCool> Kali GNU/Linux Rolling - lol
[14:26] <jeremy31> sazawal: Acer computer?
[14:26] <SubCool> i got tired of Kubuntu crashing for no reason.
[14:26] <sazawal> jeremy31, No, Thinkpad
[14:26] <tomreyn> Anywhere: this was a bit too much text per time, you're muted fot now (automatically), should be able to speak again shortly
[14:26] <tomreyn> now
[14:27] <Anywhere> yea, was the line breaks I guess. Wasn't intentional.
[14:27] <rebab> Actually I'll install Xubuntu is 20 GB enough for Xubuntu?
[14:27] <SubCool> tomreyn ^
[14:27] <tomreyn> SubCool: this channel support Ubuntu Linux.
[14:27] <gabmus[m]> <freenode_Any "yea, was the line breaks I guess"> Anywhere: thanks! Can you remind me the pc model again?
[14:27] <Anywhere> acer nitro 515-42
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> rebab: yes, depending what you will do?
[14:28] <tomreyn> SubCool: also its flavours, like Kubuntu, but not !Kali
[14:28] <rebab> lotuspsychje: Surfing, watching movies etc.
[14:29] <SubCool> tomreyn yeah, i asked there. but it is just ssh. and it is ubuntu. - but cool. thanks
[14:29] <gabmus[m]> Anywhere: great thanks
[14:29] <Anywhere> gabmus[m]: I didn't seperate exactly what gave the effect, since I did all three of those things at once. Might be one step isn't needed but at least those work. gabmus[m] and thanks to you!
[14:29] <tomreyn> !kali | SubCool
[14:30] <tomreyn> SubCool: Kali is not Ubuntu, no.
[14:30] <sazawal> EriC^, On rebooting, it opens a grub console.
[14:30] <EriC^> sazawal: that sounds good
[14:30] <EriC^> sazawal: try typing "insmod normal" then "normal"
[14:30] <tomreyn> So when you run Ubuntu and have questions about openssh-server there, you're welcome to ask here.
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> rebab: should do the trick
[14:31] <sazawal> EriC^, done, then?
[14:31] <EriC^> sazawal: what does "echo $prefix" and "echo $root" give?
[14:32] <SubCool> tomreyn im running the ubuntu version of Kali. Ill be swtiching to debian soon. But- not yet. Its ok. they answered. THanks. Usually the guys here are helpful anyways.
[14:32] <sazawal> prefix gives (hd0,gpt2)/boot/grub and root gives hd0,gpt2
[14:32] <sazawal> EriC^
[14:32] <SubCool> I cant get 18.04 to run without dolphin crashing or baloo going nuts. If i try to fix baloo- it destroys kde. -im  good.
[14:32] <SubCool> bbl. thanks
[14:33] <EriC^> sazawal: aha maybe the grub config doesnt exist?
[14:33] <tomreyn> SubCool: you can try askin questions about ubuntu derivatives in ##linux
[14:33] <EriC^> sazawal: try "configfile (hd0,gpt2)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[14:33] <tomreyn> they're usually quite open to anything linux based there
[14:34] <EriC^> sazawal: i guess you didnt run update-grub by itself earlier
[14:34] <sazawal> EriC^ Now the console is cleared, and I ended up again with grub>
[14:35] <EriC^> sazawal: ok, try quickly "linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2"
[14:35] <sazawal> EriC^ I think I did update-grub once before conversation with you started. But it failed.
[14:35] <EriC^> sazawal: and "initrd /initrd.img" then try typing "boot"
[14:36] <EriC^> any luck?
[14:37] <sazawal> EriC^ Okay now many check messages are appearing.
[14:37] <EriC^> sazawal: sounds good
[14:37] <EriC^> if it boots up right, open a terminal and type "sudo update-grub"
[14:38] <sazawal> EriC^ Cool, it booted now.
[14:38] <sazawal> EriC^ Should I connect to the internet before update-grub?
[14:39] <EriC^> sazawal: nope no need
[14:40] <sazawal> EriC^ Great, thanks a lot. Please explain me what was the problem.
[14:42] <EriC^> sazawal: afaict the bios nvram is set to read only so you cant modify the uefi list, so grub-install failed in the last part, so we used the default uefi location instead + windows one
[14:42] <EriC^> no problem
[14:44] <sazawal> EriC^ I mean why the original installation with the Live USB failed? Is it a bug which will be fixed in the future, or it has something to do with the specifications of my laptop?
[14:44] <EriC^> sazawal: i'd guess it failed at the last stage where it installs grub, if you use "ubiquity -b" to launch it from a terminal it wont install grub and you'd get a clean install (it would continue the last clean up stages and whatnot)
[14:45] <sazawal> Initially I have removed all Windows partitions including the EFI. And during the manual install, I created an EFI partition, swap space, and other partitions, but it didnt work for me.
[14:45] <EriC^> sazawal: it's nothing ubuntu can do about, your bios nvram is set to read-only, you could possibly upgrade the bios online or something
[14:45] <EriC^> but i wouldnt sweat it, just use the default location for uefi, and use ubiquity -b for future installs
[14:47] <sazawal> EriC^ I see. So the BIOS is outdated I guess. Strange, because the date in BIOS says 2011. Sorry what is ubiquity?
[14:47] <EriC^> sazawal: not outdated, your manufacturer is an a*hole and set it to read only
[14:47] <EriC^> they possibly come out with releases later when people whine enough
[14:48] <sazawal> EriC^ Oh. I know that this laptop is out of manufacture already.
[14:48] <tomreyn> Anywhere: would you have a bit of time to tell me a few things about your system in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[14:48] <tomreyn> wont take long
[14:48] <EriC^> sazawal: ubiquity is the installer for ubuntu
[14:50] <sazawal> EriC^ Same for Lubuntu? I was installing Lubuntu now. Okay, if it doesn't install grub, then I have to do update-grub after the installation if I am not wrong. Grub update should be a part of the installation I guess.
[14:50] <jeremy31> sazawal: Lubuntu will do the same
[14:52] <EriC^> sazawal: if you want to install another ubuntu, use "ubiquity -b" from a terminal to start the installer
[14:53] <EriC^> sazawal: once it's done, chroot into the installation, and install grub
[14:53] <CobHead> I see Ubiquity and immediately think of Ubiquiti
[14:53] <CobHead> Making for interesting confusion
[14:53] <sazawal> EriC^ Alright.
[14:53] <jeremy31> sazawal: you might want to save chat history somewhere
[14:55] <sazawal> jeremy31, Good idea. I have already saved my terminal log. I will do so for the chat history as well.
[14:57] <Anywhere> gabmus[m]: btw, you probably have that in there already, but I disabled fast and secure boot too.
[15:01] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I just want to put this in case any of you are able to help others in future.  I asked previously whether in pluma or gedit (I use MATE) it would be possible to adjust the number of items in the previously-opened files list in the File menu.  It's 5 by default.  It turns out you can, by using dconf-editor.  So if anyone asks you, that's how you do it.
[15:06] <V7> Hey all
[15:06] <V7> Is there any GIF editor like IconLover for Linux?
[15:21] <lunatikos> hi, anyone uses jack audio ? i got errors after config... how do i reset config by default ?
[15:25] <tomreyn> lunatikos: i don't use it, but changes are configurations are stored either somewhere in ~/.config/jack (may be spelled similarily) or ~/.jack or /etc/jack or /etc/default/jack
[15:25] <lunatikos> comment les mettre en fav ?
[15:25] <tomreyn> !fr | lunatikos
[15:25] <lunatikos> oops
[15:26] <lunatikos> sry wrong channel
[15:31] <johnfg> hi folks
[15:31] <EriC^> hi johnfg
[15:31] <lunatikos> thx, gonna try
[15:31] <johnfg> Talking to you from subzero Montana!
[15:31] <johnfg> I researched this a bit on this new ubuntu install, but haven't found the solution: when I sudo I get:
[15:31] <johnfg> groups: cannot find name for group ID 1098496223
[15:32] <johnfg> And I'm quite sure the culprit is nslcd, but the group number is 128.
[15:32] <lunatikos> does pulse-effects can interfere with jack at same time ?
[15:32] <johnfg> Any idea how to fix this and make it go away?
[15:33] <lunatikos> ./.config/jack -> deleted folder now it's ok :)
[15:34] <database2> iopl: Operation not permitted
[15:35] <database2> You need to be root.
[16:11] <zetheroo> I'm trying to sort this issue with Gthumb out - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gthumb/issues/36 - but I'm being asked to 'install debug packages for glib2, gtk3 and gthumb'. What packages would those be in 18.04?
[16:12] <ioria> you need to add a repo in sources.list , iirc
[16:25] <zetheroo> ok, I added the repo according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages#CA-d73e3ce5ba2aaf7dd9038e92d593041541c427f9_1
[16:27] <ioria> zetheroo, update and search for  e.g. gthumb-dbgsym
[16:27] <zetheroo> still not finding any -dbg packages for those
[16:28] <ioria> zetheroo,  gthumb-dbgsym
[16:28] <zetheroo> ah k
[16:30] <zetheroo> which gtk3 dbgsym package do I need? There are 3.
[16:30] <zetheroo> gtk3-engines-unico-dbgsym gtk3-engines-xfce-dbgsym gtk3-im-libthai-dbgsym
[16:31] <zetheroo> I'm not running xfce so I guess not that one ..
[16:32] <ClickTek> Any Ubuntu Forum Admins available? I'd like to chat with one via PM if at all possible. Thanks
[16:32] <ioria> zetheroo, idk what you need exactly, but probably you need   libgtk-3-bin-dbgsym
[16:33] <ioria> zetheroo, and libgtk-3-0-dbgsym
[16:33] <zetheroo> ok
[16:36] <BluesKaj> ClickTek, just ask your question, PMs are frowned upon here
[16:36] <ClickTek> That's ok, it's nothing a non-admin can help with. Don't worry about it.
[16:37] <BluesKaj> ClickTek, I'm not worried :-0
[16:38] <ClickTek> Good deal.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> ask your question(s) ClickTek , you might get lucky :-)
[16:41] <ClickTek> It's simply a forum registration issue. That's all and I can't get an opportunity to talk with someone who can REALLY help with that. It's not the end of the world - but it'd be nice to use the forums.
[16:41] <BluesKaj> or be referred to a chat that can help you
[16:45] <DJones> ClickTek: There used to be a channel on freenode #ubuntuforums, it still exists,maybe they can helpyou
[16:48] <ren0v0> Hi, does Nautilus not save thumbnails from remote drives?
[16:50] <jeremy31> ClickTek: Doesn't appear to be any admin available on #ubuntuforums right now
[16:51] <jeremy31> ClickTek: /join #ubuntuforums
[16:52] <ClickTek> Thanks
[16:52] <OerHeks> ren0v0, thumbnails on remote/external drives give such large datastream, you don't want that, it makes it horribly slow
[16:52] <OerHeks> like windows, same behaviour i guess
[16:52] <ren0v0> OerHeks, how do you mean?
[16:53] <OerHeks> just explained, it makes it horribly slow
[16:53] <ren0v0> It's horribly slow at the moment which is why I'm trying to find a solution, I load thumbnails on the drive but Nautilus doesn't save them
[16:54] <OerHeks> reading all the files, make a thumbnail, next one, etc
[16:54] <ren0v0> OerHeks, you aren't being very clear, Nautilus "does not" save thumbnails from remote drives, you are just saying its slow, what does that mean ?
[16:55] <OerHeks> where should those thumbnails be saved?
[16:56] <ren0v0> I'm asking the question here, why am I being asked questions?? :D
[16:56] <ren0v0> I'm asking - does Nautilus not save thumbnails from remote drives?
[16:57] <ren0v0> Because, it clearly generates them on the fly, but i'm not sure what happens after you change DIR
[16:57] <OerHeks> go into settings; search/preview. see  thumbnails section: standard 'files on this computer only'  but you can change that
[16:58] <OerHeks> it makes it horribly slow, just saying
[16:58] <ren0v0> omg
[16:58] <ren0v0> I've already said i'm viewing thumbnails remotely
[16:59] <database2> iopl: Operation not permitted
[16:59] <ren0v0> I'm not asking how to do that, I'm asking if Nautilus is supposed to save them
[16:59] <database2> You need to be root.
[17:03] <ioria> ren0v0, i guess so: ls /home/$USER/.cache/thumbnails
[17:05] <ren0v0> ioria, it doesn't use them for remote files, so does it delete them after you change DIR?
[17:05] <ren0v0> seems completely pointless to load them and not save somewhere
[17:05] <ioria> no idea, sy
[17:20] <erle-> For your information: yalu-dark is not compatible with hexchat
[17:20] <erle-> https://imgur.com/a/YG9NAXG
[17:20] <erle-> for comparison screenshots with yalu, yalu-dark, adwaita, adwaita-dark and ambiance
[17:20] <erle-> *yaru
[17:35] <lunaticedit> Hey, is anyone able to install the nvidia binary drivers in 18.10? I've tried the option from additional hardware, i've also tried from that extra graphics driver ppa.
[17:35] <lunaticedit> Nomatter what I do, I get a purple screen and have to apt purge nvidia* to get back to a graphical desktop
[17:35] <lunaticedit> GTX1060, worked just fine on kde neon
[17:36] <OerHeks> the driver ppa is the way to go, maybe you need nomodeset too
[17:36] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[17:37] <lunaticedit> I'll check that out. I'm very familiar with linux, but I really hope this isn't the normal experience for linux newbs :-S
[17:39] <lunaticedit> re-installing drivers, hopefully that'l fix it, i remember having to nomodeset back in the day as well
[17:46] <lunaticedit> thanks @OerHeks, that worked
[17:48] <OerHeks> lunaticedit, have fun! with that repo you would get updates too, not with the binairy from nvidia itself
[17:52] <unimatrix9> we are having some trouble with connecting to public hot spots ( wifi )
[17:53] <unimatrix9> with 18.04 LTS
[17:53] <unimatrix9> any one who has the some problems ?
[17:58] <tomreyn> unimatrix9: can you give more details. are you still in vicinity of those so you can test more?
[17:59] <tomreyn> s/\./?/
[17:59] <heap_> hi, if i execute halt in ubuntu server on my intel nuc it power off but led is still blue instead of yellow
[17:59] <heap_> why its not power off it completely?
[18:00] <tomreyn> heap_: try a firmware upgrade
[18:00] <OerHeks> halt is not enough, halt --poweroff
[18:02] <unimatrix9> its alway' s a to many redirects error
[18:02] <nashimus> I installed ubuntu server 18.10 and I thought I had chose the option to use free space and resize the existing windows installation. I must have done something stupid without realizing... I'm able to boot ubuntu fine, but it seems to have stepped on the partition table and possible the existing Windows 10 installation. I've never had to deal with this situation before and assume that caution is probably wise. Does anyone have any suggestions
[18:02] <nashimus> for how I can approach this safely? I don't care about the ubuntu install, or even the windows OS, just the documents in the Windows partition. Thanks.
[18:02] <murthy> heap_: It could be due to your power saver settings in the bios
[18:03] <lunaticedit> @nashimus do you see the windows partition in Disks?
[18:04] <nashimus> nope
[18:04] <nashimus> appears that the partition table is mangled
[18:04] <lunaticedit> define 'mangled'
[18:05] <unimatrix9> server does not support RFC 5746, see CVE-2009-3555
[18:05] <nashimus> perhaps "missing or corrupt" would be a better choice. I don't actually know.
[18:06] <nashimus> partitionmanager says "No valid partition table was found on this device."
[18:06] <nashimus> also, I've removed the drive and connected it to another system.
[18:07] <lunaticedit> then yes, I would agree, at that point i'd suggest using file recovery software. if you've attached it to a windows box, recuva or the like
[18:07] <CodeMouse92> P.S. If you've attached to a Linux system, testdisk is a hide-saver
[18:07] <lunaticedit> yeah testdisk would be the linux equiv
[18:07] <lunaticedit> i'd DEF mount it as readonly
[18:07] <CodeMouse92> Used it to recover near about 500 GB of twice-overwritten data once.
[18:08] <nashimus> wonderful, thank you for the suggestions
[18:08] <nashimus> firing up testdisk now to see what I can find out.
[18:08] <lunaticedit> when the partition is wiped the files aren't necessarily gone, there's just no pointer to it
[18:08] <lunaticedit> obviously if new data is written to the disk (i.e. installing a linux distro) that could do bad things and you'll have less of a chance of getting files off it
[18:08] <nashimus> yeah, that's why I removed it from the system immediately, since I had no idea if ubuntu was stepping on the windows files..
[18:08] <lunaticedit> but lets hope you simply nuked your partition table
[18:09] <nashimus> *fingers crossed*
[18:09] <lunaticedit> I would suggest in the future to use either local storage (external usb drive), or cloud storage :)
[18:09] <lunaticedit> I'm lazy so i use google drive
[18:09] <tomreyn> unimatrix9: were you responding to me there? and these are messages you see in firefox?
[18:09] <heap_> tomreyn: firmware of what? u mean bios?
[18:09] <CodeMouse92> Nextcloud, if you have a server ;)
[18:10] <tomreyn> heap_: yes, mainboard firmware, it's probably uefi, not bios
[18:10] <lunaticedit> yay thanks again guys for helping with the nvidia boot issue, diablo 3 is now running :D
[18:10] <heap_> tomreyn: ah ok
[18:10] <lunaticedit> and, to be clear, that's the most important thing to get working
[18:10] <tomreyn> heap_: but what OerHeks said may well be the correct answer
[18:11] <heap_> okay lets try
[18:11] <tomreyn> heap_: i.e. use the "shutdown" command rather than just 2halt"
[18:11] <unimatrix9> yes
[18:11] <tomreyn> !who | unimatrix9
[18:12] <heap_> works like a charm : halt --poweroff
[18:12] <heap_> thanks
[18:13] <unimatrix9> tomreyn, actually its more an overall question, if any one here has trouble with public wifi hotspots and connection ubuntu 18.04.2
[18:13] <tomreyn> unimatrix9: the firefox error message you quoted suggests that the webserver you are trying to connect to there is setup insecurely. there used to be a way to override this in firefox, but it was removed years ago, since no such servers should exist anymore nowadays.
[18:14] <unimatrix9> i see, yes, well its an new public spae here ( library ) that just opened , they have this new network, public wifi, but ubuntu, what we use cant connect for some reason
[18:15] <unimatrix9> we are using the flexspaces to do our work.. and the wifi
[18:15] <tomreyn> unimatrix9: if you know who manags the network in this public space, talk to them and show them the message you got
[18:15] <tgm4883> unimatrix9: are you supposed to be redirected to a portal? If so, can you go to the portal directly?
[18:16] <nashimus> hell yes
[18:16] <tomreyn> unimatrix9: if they need help with it they are welcome to connect to freenode and ping me on a channel.
[18:16] <nashimus> testdisk shows the expected files!
[18:17] <nashimus> Never used test disk before, thank you for the suggestion! :)
[18:17] <unimatrix9> yes its a redirect to the portal, that pops up the ubuntu dialog -- that gives the redirect error
[18:17] <unimatrix9> i indeed also try to use the redirect url in browser
[18:18] <unimatrix9>  and all kind of other idea' s , like turning off the ubuntu popup dialog
[18:18] <unimatrix9> linux mint - older version , by the way , does work
[18:20] <OerHeks> general: for wifi hotspots, one needs this package, network-manager-config-connectivity-ubuntu , explained here ( old post, still valid) https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/09/disable-network-connectivity-checking-ubuntu-17-10
[18:20] <OerHeks> !info network-manager-config-connectivity-ubuntu
[18:20] <OerHeks> so you can be tracked and stuff
[18:20] <qwebirc16251> my .bashrc file contains: harvest='python3 /opt/theHarvester/trunk/theHarvester.py', and  john='john-the-ripper' but for some reason only the "john" alias works.  Any idea why?
[18:21] <tomreyn> unimatrix9: yes, an outdated and insecure operating system with an outdated and insecure webbrowser may enable the connection. but we don't support this here because we care too much for you.
[18:21] <OerHeks> qwebirc16251, maybe use full path for python3 ?
[18:21] <qwebirc16251> oooooh i see
[18:21] <OerHeks> 'which python3' is helpfull
[18:21] <qwebirc16251> but why does it work when i use the alias command?
[18:22] <qwebirc16251> alias harvest="blah blah"
[18:22] <tomreyn> unimatrix9: since the urls you get to see there are probably not reachable form the internet, or if they are, different content may be returned, it will be difficult to help you work around this remotely.
[18:23] <OerHeks> yeah, maybe, but i have no reason to help kali stuff actually
[18:23] <OerHeks> smart ass
[18:23] <unimatrix9> thats thrue tomreyn i know
[18:23] <qwebirc16251> OerHeks: im not on kali, im on ubuntu 18.04
[18:23] <unimatrix9> true *
[18:24] <tomreyn> unimatrix9: so just ask the local staff there about their admin, and massage them towards upgrading the access point software, since it's outdated and a security risk for everyone using it.
[18:24] <qwebirc16251> OerHeks: and it could have been any program, not necessarily theHarvester
[18:25] <unimatrix9> thanks tomreyn, i will have to chat with them..
[18:28] <qwebirc16251> OerHeks: btw, using the full python3 path didnt help
[18:30] <tomreyn> qwebirc16251: whats the output of: cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline
[18:31] <johnfg> There are programs that ubuntu doesn't like being run as root.  Who should own /var/www/html to allow me to add content there?
[18:32] <johnfg> tomreyn: Did you happen to see my question about an odd group showing up, from a couple of hours ago?
[18:33] <tomreyn> johnfg: no. this seems to be the first time you highlighted (addressed) me today.
[18:35] <johnfg> I researched this a bit on this new ubuntu install, but haven't found the solution: when I sudo I get:
[18:35] <johnfg> groups: cannot find name for group ID 1098496223
[18:35] <johnfg> And I'm quite sure the culprit is nslcd, but the group number is 128.
[18:35] <johnfg> tomreyn: those are the 3.
[18:36] <tomreyn> johnfg: did you make changes to your sudoers configuration, though? is there someone else who manages this computer othjer than you?
[18:37] <johnfg> tomreyn: No and no.  I did, however, assign a password to root.
[18:39] <tomreyn> johnfg: you mention nslcd, have you reconfigured your cmputer to enable authentication against network authentication databases, such as ldap or AD?
[18:39] <OerHeks> johnfg, reverse that again, maybe the damage is already done; standard the administrator add himself to the www-data group to have comfy access
[18:39] <OerHeks> password to root is a sad idea
[18:39] <unimatrix9> thanks all , bye
[18:45] <murthy> I just missed 7 of 9
[19:03] <royal_screwup21> anyone use the oh-my-bash themes? what does the {3} in [my_repo {3 }  ✗] mean?
[19:10] <OerHeks> royal_screwup21, more luck in ##linux i guess, that github project has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[19:11] <tomreyn> breaking your shell is not supported here
[19:12] <OerHeks> yes, he encountered that already, iirc
[19:38] <johnfg> OerHeks: I'll get back to yours in a sec.
[19:38] <johnfg> tomreyn: Yes, I authenticate against ldap.
[19:40] <johnfg> OerHeks: What's the best way to remove the root password?  via vipw?
[19:41] <tomreyn> johnfg: so the configuration you made there to enable that is incorrect, double check it.
[19:42] <tomreyn> johnfg: sudo passwd --delete root
[19:42] <johnfg> tomreyn: what configuration?
[19:42] <johnfg> the ldap authentication is working fine.  Don't know which you mean.
[19:46] <tomreyn> johnfg: you probably made changes to either your sudp configuration or your nslcd configuration which trigger the "groups: cannot find name for group ID 1098496223" message. this message suggests that your system now knows of a group id 1098496223 which does not have a name assigned. which is irregular. this group id may have been sources from the ladap server. but since we cannot know the configurations you applied, all we can do is guess.
[19:47] <johnfg> I ran sudo passwd --delete root, but when I just did a sudo, it still gave the error: groups: cannot find name for group ID 1098496262
[19:47] <OerHeks> hence the damage is already done, with root passowrd
[19:47] <OerHeks> backup data, and start fresh
[19:48] <OerHeks> big warnings.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account ..
[20:18] <james_brown> i have added 2 aliased to my ~/.bashrc file: harvest='/usr/local/bin/python3 /opt/theHarvester/trunk/theHarvester.py'  and  john='john-the-ripper' but for some reason only "john" works
[20:18] <james_brown> any idea why?
[20:20] <tomreyn> johnfg: when you run sudo, it (sudo) needs to know which users and groups exist. thus checks which groups are available (you can do so using "getent group". apparently your system is aware of a group with ID 1098496262 (which is unusually high) but without a group name. there are two situations i can think of which may be causing this: (1) this group is configured (incorrectly) in the ldap server you have set your system to connect to / query.
[20:20] <tomreyn> (2) this group ID does not really exist on the ldap server nor on your local system but it is returned as a result of incorrectly configuring the ldap server lookup on your local system. in either case i recommend you talk to your local ldap admins (unless this is you?).
[20:20] <ioria> james_brown, /usr/local/bin/python3 ? are you serious ?
[20:21] <mlalkaka> james_brown, can you paste those lines (or the whole .bashrc file) to a pastebin so that we can check for syntax errors?
[20:21] <tomreyn> james_brown: whats the output of: cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline
[20:21] <james_brown> ioria: at the beginning it was only python3, but then someone here suggested to use the whole path
[20:21] <james_brown> mlalkaka: sure
[20:21] <mlalkaka> james_brown, you can use https://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:22] <james_brown> mlalkaka: but the thing is that when i use that exact line with the "alias" command, it works perfectly
[20:22] <ioria> james_brown, and that is the full path ? you installed python3 locally ?
[20:23] <james_brown> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w9qdprddBk/
[20:23] <james_brown> ioria: thats the output of "which python3"
[20:23] <ioria> i'am out
[20:23] <james_brown> ioria: care to explain your frustration?
[20:24] <ioria> you're trolling
[20:24] <james_brown> im really not
[20:24] <james_brown> im just a noob with ubuntu
[20:24] <ioria> and you use harvester
[20:24] <tomreyn> now, should a noob with ubuntu be penetration testing?
[20:24] <james_brown> thats not really the question
[20:25] <tomreyn> it is a question you should ask yourself
[20:25] <james_brown> sure
[20:25] <Gerowen> I have a wireless printer which supports the remote sending of a fax using the HP software in Windows.  For example, you could fax a PDF document the same as if you had printed the document, laid it on the scanner and faxed it manually with the printer itself.
[20:25] <Gerowen> The printer works fine for scanning documents and printing them, but is there a solution to let me use the fax feature of it from a PC?
[20:25] <bprompt> james_brown:    what error do you get when you issue the alias in the .bashrc?
[20:26] <james_brown> you done being rude or you guys would help a dude trying to learn?
[20:26] <james_brown> bprompt: harvest: command not found
[20:26] <mlalkaka> james_brown, aren't you just missing the `alias` command? Here's an updated paste: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4TZwh8GRFP/
[20:27] <bprompt> james_brown:   so if you issue it from the command line, after setting the alias, it works, but if you stick the alias in .bashrc, no dice, right?
[20:27] <james_brown> mlalkaka: then why does the other alias work?
[20:27] <ioria> it needs a lot of requirements , not even in the ubuntu repos
[20:27] <james_brown> bprompt: exactly
[20:28] <james_brown> mlalkaka: i updated the bashrc file adding "alias", still doesnt work
[20:28] <james_brown> command not found
[20:28] <bprompt> james_brown:    I assume you used the "alias" command in .bashrc, right?  as opposed to just setting the strings as shown in the paste, since you do need the -----> alias harvest='/usr/local/bin/python3 /opt/theHarvester/trunk/theHarvester.py'  <--- part in .bashrc as well
[20:28] <mlalkaka> james_brown, yeah.. I'm not sure about that. Can you show how you used "john" when it worked? Based on the paste, it looks like what's in your .bashrc file just assigned a Bash variable called "john"
[20:30] <james_brown> mlalkaka: i just type "john" on the terminal
[20:30] <bprompt> james_brown:   also, bear in mind that a .bashrc update takes effect on a new bash session, since the new session loads the updated .bashrc
[20:30] <tomreyn> Gerowen: depends ;-) see if hp provides linux fax drivers for this model
[20:30] <OerHeks> bprompt +1, john the ripper is installed with apt, harvester manuall
[20:31] <bprompt> OerHeks:    hmm, ok
[20:31] <james_brown> opened a new terminal, now it works.  So i was missing the "alias" at the start
[20:31] <OerHeks> both aliasses are wrong, it needs 'alias ' in front
[20:31] <james_brown> yeah, i see
[20:31] <james_brown> thanks guys
[20:31] <bprompt> james_brown:   yeap, you  do need the "alias" just like in the command line, you need it in .bashrc as well
[20:32] <james_brown> bprompt: i see, thanks
[20:32] <mlalkaka> james_brown, it looks like the executable name for john the ripper is already "john", at least according to this site I found: https://www.tunnelsup.com/getting-started-cracking-password-hashes/. (I haven't used the tool myself)
[20:32] <OerHeks> my bad james_brown , i was focussed on python path
[20:32] <bprompt> james_brown:   otherwise, is simply a string variable for the local scope only
[20:33] <james_brown> so what is the best way to learning linux according to you guys?
[20:34] <james_brown> i like to learn by doing so books wouldnt be the top choice for me, any suggestions?
[20:34] <jeremy31> google
[20:35] <bprompt> james_brown:    there are many great books, depends on what you want to do, bear in mind that Linux is an OS and lots of context  in it, so far you've been contexting on Bash only :), if  you want to learn bash, many books around
[20:35] <james_brown> bprompt: is there a resource for learning about the os itself that is not a book?
[20:36] <bprompt> james_brown:    well, anything that's not a book, will be a video or audio, no?
[20:36] <james_brown> bprompt: how about linux from scratch?
[20:37] <james_brown> bprompt: or a website with interactive content, idk.  Maybe published assignments from a university
[20:38] <james_brown> bprompt: how did u learn linux?
[20:38] <bprompt> james_brown:    https://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/   <---- is a great book, I have it in chm with a few changes I made to it, and can upload it somewhere if you want, it says "advanced guide", but is from the ground up
[20:38] <bprompt> james_brown:    how I?   have quite a bit of books on it :)
[20:38] <tomreyn> lfs can teach a lot about linux, but you may need to have a certain baseline. if you understand C, this can surely help getting a better understanding of the kernel.
[20:39] <james_brown> bprompt: do you work with linux?
[20:39] <james_brown> tomreyn: i only know basic C.  how well do i need to know it for lfs?
[20:40] <jamiejackson> i've gotten to know system-storage-manager (ssm command) in rhel. is it available in ubuntu (bionic)?
[20:40] <bprompt> james_brown:    do I run it? yes, have I used it at some paid work?   I've done webdev frontend and do ftp sessions for updating files or maintaing directory structure on the webserver, over a shell
[20:40] <tomreyn> james_brown: that's good enough if you also have a general understanding of compiling.
[20:41] <tomreyn> and the shell, and basic linux userspace tooling
[20:41] <james_brown> tomreyn: i see. thanks
[20:45] <jamiejackson> nm about ssm. i got it after `apt --fix-broken install`
[20:46] <tomreyn> SSM was (is) available in ubuntu until ubuntu 16.04, but i'm not sure how well it work.
[20:46] <tomreyn> *workS
[20:46] <pcgc> I am trying to compile from the source tomboy-latex because the version 0.5, which I have and doesn't work to 0.7
[20:46] <tomreyn> it's common to manage storage structure layers individually on ubuntu
[20:47] <tomreyn> oh, "page closed"
[20:47] <tomreyn> !info tomboy-latex
[20:48] <pcgc> https://pastebin.com/fwgFQXMu I get this error
[20:48] <tomreyn> pcgc: you do not ever run "sudo make"
[20:49] <tomreyn> building software is something which should always be done by a restricted user
[20:49] <pcgc> got it
[20:49] <pcgc> but i get the same error without it
[20:49] <tomreyn> which one did you run first?
[20:50] <pcgc> probably without sudo
[20:50] <tomreyn> line 5 suggests that a build dependency is missing
[20:50] <tomreyn> seek support from the softwares' developers
[20:50] <tomreyn> or consider using a PPA
[20:50] <tomreyn> !ppa
[21:03] <bear38> Hi all, I'm patching the ubuntu 4.17.19 kernel, and had some question as a first timer. I have compiled and installed the kernel myself, with the patch, but I am wondering about the effect that different configuration options might have. I took the .config file that the stock 4.17.19 kernel uses, so think I am ok on that.
[21:03] <jeremy31> What Ubuntu 4.17 kernel?
[21:04] <bear38> But, my question is, what about the "make menuconfig" options? What file do options changed there affect? Is it still the .config file, so as long as that is the same, accepting all the default menuconfig options was what i wanted to do?
[21:04] <bear38> generic.
[21:05] <jeremy31> bear38: There is no Ubuntu 4.17 kernel, the only supported kernels now are 4.4, 4.15, and 4.18
[21:05] <bear38> I'm basically scared that I'm changing something that Ubuntu wisely sets as default without knowing it.
[21:06] <bear38> jeremy31: Really? Well I got it from here: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.17.19/
[21:06] <mustmodify> Feeling dumb. I'm transitioning a website to a new host. I want to change the iP locally so I can verify it's working. I thought that was in etc/hosts ... do I need to restart a service? Or should that work right away?
[21:06] <bear38> And I followed those isntructions to build it, of course.
[21:06] <mustmodify> Because it doesn't seem to be working
[21:06] <rdh> bear38, itll be fine, itll warning you of config changes that do not work when compiling the kernel
[21:07] <jeremy31> bear38: hasn't been updated since August, those kernels are for testing and bug reports mainly
[21:07] <yvyz> mustmodify: If the IP you want to assign is available on you rnetwork segment, you can place a static IP entry into /etc/network/interfaces
[21:07] <jeremy31> bear38: what patch are you trying?
[21:08] <tomreyn> bear38: those kernels are entirely unsupported also
[21:08] <rdh> bear38, besides, what is the reason for a custom kernel? the only time on ubuntu i needed to compile a custom kernel was to setup intels turbo boost when that wasn't yet supported
[21:09] <bear38> jeremy31: Shoot, I need kernel 4.17.19 for my application, but can't got past it, which is why I'm patching my own. The patch I'm doing is updating mm/z3fold.c so it doesn't crash in the kernel source. It is only 2 commits that I need to add, entirely inside of that file. 4.20.X has the changes to z3fold.c already in it.
[21:09] <yvyz> mustmodify: -> https://askubuntu.com/a/431693
[21:09] <jeremy31> bear38: What Ubuntu version?
[21:09] <bear38> rdh: well, for the reason above, but now that these kernels are not supported I'm a bit worried. Stability is a huge concern of mine.
[21:10] <bear38> 16.04, which Mint 18.3 uses (let's forget about Mint here though)
[21:10] <mustmodify> yvy: Well, that seems to be about configuring networking, not DNS stuff but I'll check it out.
[21:10] <yvyz> mustmodify: if you want to just "test" the ip, and your machine exists in that network segment already you can run -> ifconfig <- in terminal to get the interface you want to change and then run -> ifconfig ethX 192.168.#.# <-
[21:10] <mustmodify> s/stuff/resolution
[21:11] <rdh> bear38, you can't take a stable kernel and apply that patch?
[21:11] <mustmodify> yep, I just want to temporarily assign a different IP than DNS specifies
[21:11] <yvyz> mustmodify: You may name nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces with the 'dns-nameservers' flag
[21:12] <mustmodify> But I don't want to specify nameservers.
[21:12] <yvyz> mustmodify: DNS != DHCP
[21:12] <mustmodify> I just want to change **one domain**
[21:12] <tomreyn> yvyz: my understanding is that mustmodify really just wants to test whether the website they moved will be accessible under the same domain name after a server migration and DNS change (pointing to the new servers' IP address)
[21:12] <mustmodify> Hm... I don't think we're on the same page. I certainly don't want to do anything with DHCP.
[21:12] <mustmodify> tomreyn: right
[21:13] <bear38> rdh: Hmmm, maybe I actually can. I looked over all the changes to the relevant memory management code between 4.20.13 (tested working z3fold) and 4.17.19. I think I'll have to revist that with a 4.15.18 base, unfortunately that is a lot older and is probably going to be a lot more laborius. But I think if I need stability, I have no choice....
[21:13] <mustmodify> I would swear I've done this by editing /etc/hosts before...
[21:14] <tomreyn> mustmodify: so you don't want to change your ip address configuration, but you want to configure a static DNS resolution on your computer, temporarily. modifying /etc/hosts wshould still work for this. there may be better options.
[21:14] <yvyz> So, are you on the machine you want to use to check the new website?
[21:14] <bear38> jeremy38: Sorry new to IRC, forgot to tag you, I'm on 16.04, using Mint 18.3, but that shouldn't matter I think.
[21:16] <jeremy31> bear38: This application cannot work on 18.04 and what is z3fold.c part of?
[21:16] <OerHeks> err.. mint has its own issues
[21:16] <tomreyn> mustmodify: you can check whether overriding public DNS resolution (with a record in /etc/hosts) works by comparing the ip addresses "ping -c1 mywebsite.org" and "dig mywebsite.org @1.1.1.1" report.
[21:17] <bear38> jeremy31: z3fold.c is used in zswap, which is a compressed area of memory before the page file is hit, an in memory compressed swap space. In my case, I can't yet upgrade to 18.04 due to some other software.
[21:17] <tomreyn> "dig mywebsite.org @1.1.1.1 +short" rather, alternatively "host mywebsite.org 1.1.1.1"
[21:18] <jeremy31> bear38:  have you tried using the 4.15 kernel and downloading the kernel source so that it could be patched?
[21:18] <ducasse> bear38: for mint support please use their support venues
[21:18] <mustmodify> I'll keep working, thanks.
[21:18] <tomreyn> mustmodify: the first command should returns what your /etc/hosts is configured to return, the second should return what the internet currently gets to see
[21:19] <tomreyn> mustmodify: replace "mywebsite.org" in these examples by your websites' actual fully qualified domain name
[21:20] <mustmodify> Still not working, but I'll move on to some other test strategy, thanks. :|
[21:20] <bear38> jeremy31: I'm currently checking that out now. It is going to be a lot more changes though, I think. Ultimately, I'm most interested in the original question of what the "make menuconfig" changes, and if just accepting the defaults will somehow magically get me the same menuconfig options that the supported, stock kernels will have. I know how to make the .config file identical, just not the menuconfig file, whatever file that affects.
[21:20] <tomreyn> !mint | bear38
[21:22] <bear38> tomreyn: this is kernel level stuff, forget about Mint, if I can get this running on ubuntu (which I'm testing my changes with anyway) it is just fine. Also the Mint peopel are not knowdgable about this stuff.
[21:22] <rdh> bear38, yea...
[21:22] <jeremy31> bear38: I am a forums moderator on Mint
[21:23] <tomreyn> bear38: ok. if you run ubuntu, that's cool. "I need kernel 4.17.19 for my application," sounds like a terrible situation you should solve, though.
[21:23] <bear38> jeremy31: Well then I stand corrected on that, apologies, almost all kernel modding questions I see are asking about ubuntu, which is why I'm using it to test.
[21:25] <bear38> tomreyn: My needs are odd, the question itself is pretty standard though, I think: what exactly is the "make menuconfig" doing? That is what I am here trying to learn about.
[21:26] <bear38> standard as far as compiling kernels goes.
[21:26] <tomreyn> bear38: compiling your own kernel is already pretty uncommon around here (but i'm not saying you should not do it)
[21:27] <yvyz> bear38: There is a LOT Of documentation for this. It is normal that a lot of people will have multiple kernel's at the ready and loaded into grub for selectiona at boot.
[21:27] <tomreyn> bear38: make menuconfig basically edits the build configuration files.
[21:28] <yvyz> bear38: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/ch08s06.html
[21:29] <bear38> tomreyn: I am aware that it edits the configuration files. All I'm trying to find out is which file it edits, so I can make sure the config matches between install kernels.
[21:29] <rdh> bear38,  lets you config what you need in your kernel. if you just use the default .config from ubuntu/mint... it'll be a lot of things to compile. And as far a rolling with your own kernel, it'll be unsupported because no one knows for sure what you did if something goes wrong and people don't have time to solve issues where you are missing an important module.
[21:29] <rdh> bear38, .config
[21:30] <jeremy31> bear38:  why not just compile the z3fold module?  I still haven't seen this patch
[21:30] <yvyz> bear38: bear38 'menuconfig' is the GUI version of setting 'make' flags: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menuconfig
[21:30] <bear38> rdh: so, "make menuconfig" just edits .config? If so then I should be good. That is simple if so.
[21:31] <yvyz> it is synonymous with 'make config'
[21:31] <yvyz> But you get a sweet interface.
[21:31] <rdh> bear38, yes. just copy the .config, run make menuconfig to see if there are any conflics... and compile
[21:32] <rdh> bear38, and wait a while...
[21:32] <bear38> jeremy31: well, maybe I'm not understanding correctlt, but z3fold isn't a kernel module, it is just 1 of ~110 .c files in the memory management directory in the linus source code. So I don't like I can rebuild it like that, I wish I could though.
[21:34] <yvyz> bear38: it is a kernel module
[21:34] <jeremy31> bear38: look at in terminal> modinfo z3fold
[21:34] <rdh> bear38, yea i was just about to say... if its a module you can compile just that
[21:35] <bear38> rdh: In fact, already have it compiled and everything, took 16 minutes with 8 virtual cores. The .config file matches.
[21:35] <bear38> But, now that I realize it is a kernel module, my life gets a lot easier :)
[21:35] <yvyz> And you can easily direct your kernel to load different page compression modules just as z3fol.
[21:35] <jeremy31> bear38: the problem is that you still have an unsupported an outdated kernel
[21:35] <mase-tech> hey I want to write a skript
[21:36] <mase-tech> and I want to include a path
[21:36] <mase-tech> so I name a var
[21:36] <yvyz> mase-tech: this is not a programming support channel.
[21:36] <bear38> jeremey31: I can use the stock 4.15.X as long as I can load the z3fold module. I think that should work just fine for me, still have a supported kerenl, just a patched module.
[21:36] <tomreyn> mase-tech: which scripting language is it?
[21:36] <mase-tech> bash
[21:37] <tomreyn> /join #bash
[21:37] <mase-tech> I am quite new to it
[21:37] <mase-tech> ok
[21:37] <johnfg> tomreyn: Sorry, I was out shoveling where the snow is in places over the knees.
[21:38] <bear38> Anyway, thanks jeremy31, rdh, and yvyz. Off learn about compiling and installing modules now.
[21:38] <tomreyn> johnfg: hope you put on some pants.
[21:38] <rdh> bear38, have fun!
[21:38] <johnfg> Anyway, yes, I am the ldap admin, and that number is definitely, *not* in /etc/group.  I'm going to see if there's any number like that in my ldap data.
[21:38] <johnfg> tomreyn: Ha ha!  Good one.  No wonder I was cold!
[21:39] <johnfg> Although the 9 F is warmer than predicted.
[21:39] <tomreyn> johnfg: this mey help getting  better idea of what your system is getting: getent group $ID
[21:39] <johnfg> tomreyn: Ok, although I think I already did that earlier.
[21:39] <tomreyn> johnfg: replace $ID by the UID the sudo warning reports
[21:40] <tomreyn> johnfg: logically, if the UID is not configured on your system, it must be coming from elsewhere.
[21:41] <johnfg> tomreyn: Right, that returns nothing.
[21:42] <tomreyn> johnfg: hmm maybe that ID no longer exists now.
[21:42] <tomreyn> getent uses live data by default, i dont think it caches, but sudo may
[21:42] <johnfg> tomreyn: I wondered about that, being that it's not in /etc/group.  I wonder where it could be?
[21:44] <josefig> one question, my IP has IPv6 but when I try to do an apt install <pkg> it doesn't work properly, so I disabled the ipv6 options directly with sysctl -w ..., but even I added into the /etc/sysctl.conf and when I reboot the pc it doesn't apply the ipv6 disable rules I added by default, I need to do sysctl -p again to get it work, why is this? how can
[21:44] <josefig>  I solve this?
[21:46] <bear38> rdh: thanks man :)
[21:46] <tomreyn> johnfg: well i think it's in ldap. one other possible explanation might be that sudo encounters this GID (sorry, i said UID earlier, but it's a GID really) while reading configuration files.
[21:47] <tomreyn> johnfg: ...i.e. maybe one of these configuration files has this GID set as a group permission. but this is really just another guess, and i'd reather think ldap is the more likely suspect.
[21:48] <tomreyn> josefig: which ubuntu release is this? lsb_release -ds
[21:52] <johnfg> tomreyn: that number is neither in cn=config, or my other data.
[21:52] <johnfg> s/or/nor
[21:52] <tomreyn> johnfg: so a manual ldap lookup doesn't show it?
[21:53] <johnfg> tomreyn: nope
[21:53] <johnfg> I'm just trying, per your previous a, ls -Rla / | grep 1098496262
[21:53] <johnfg> But that probably won't work anyway.
[21:54] <tomreyn> johnfg: you share the configurations you applied to your ubuntu system to enable ldap lookups for someone here to review them. personally i'm going to have dinner now.
[21:55] <tomreyn> so good luck.
[22:00] <Gerowen> tomreyn: Regarding my earlier question, I don't think they have fax drivers for this printer for Linux.  My wife has decided she'd rather just get a mini-pci modem card and do it that way though, so she could potentially use it for other things.
[22:01] <johnfg> You must be on the east cost, eh?
[22:02] <johnfg> 1500 here.
[22:03] <velix> Is "launchpad" official at all? Seems like nobody cares about bugs being reported.
[22:04] <OerHeks> velix, yes it is official, and what bugreport are you referring to?
[22:05] <velix> OerHeks: It might be a packaging bug only (seems like the dependency versions are wrong): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fuse3/+bug/1817437
[22:05] <OerHeks> oh wait, i helped you to the source for fuse3 ..
[22:06] <velix> ;)
[22:06] <OerHeks> maybe that is not a valid bugreport, as there are no plans to backport it to lts?
[22:07] <velix> OerHeks: Yeah, but it works fine under heavy use. Maybe I just need to provide a patch :D
[22:07] <OerHeks> and you need to seek confirmation, than it will be under attention of the team, 1 report is hardly a bug.
[22:08] <velix> Let me build it on Debian Stable. Since it's the same package as it seems, the guys in there might be more interested and share the code with ubuntu later.
[22:10] <josefig> tomreyn, 18.04.s LTS
[22:10] <josefig> sorry for the delay, i was eating something :P
[22:10] <velix> OerHeks: you know what?
[22:10] <velix> OerHeks: builds like a charm in less than 10 seconds on debian including tests.
[22:11] <OerHeks> same kernel?
[22:13] <velix> OerHeks: No, 4.18 (ubuntu) vs. 4.19 (debian)
[22:13] <velix> OerHeks: But there were no real overlayfs change in 4.19 (just namespace stuff).
[22:13] <velix> Ubuntu allows OverlayFS in usernamesapace, while Debian doesn't.
[22:14] <velix> eww.. forget it.
[22:14] <velix> we're talking about fuse
[22:14] <velix> Since my goal is overlayfs for fuse3, I just messed my words up
[22:15] <velix> fuse3 and fuse2 work side-as-side now. uninstalling fuse2 will mess anything up critically.
[22:19] <OerHeks> libfuse 3 is designed to be co-installable with libfuse 2 .. they planned to make 3 packages, fuse2 fuse3 and fuse-common, from git
[22:20] <velix> OerHeks: Is see. Very nice.
[22:20] <velix> Okay, this might only be a LTS problem then...
[22:20] <velix> Actually, building worked thans to meson backport.
[22:21] <velix> So nobody might really care ;)
[22:21] <OerHeks> add this debian build succes to that bugreport
[22:22] <velix> OerHeks: let me figure out the dependencies used in my debian.
[22:22] <velix> OerHeks: by the way: I was able to build fuse-overlayfs in the meantime and it works as expected :D
[22:22] <TheSashmo> can anyone tell me why there is no VLAN option in ubuntu 18 desktop?  I cant find any way to add vlan from GUI.
[22:27] <velix> OerHeks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fuse3/+bug/1817437/comments/2
[22:27] <DVA5912> Running 18.10 here, Asus X550ZA with a bluetooth issue. I think it may be due to a driver but im unsure as ive already tried replacing the drivers. Ive followed a few forums and links with the google fu. Everything has been followed. Including installing the Broadcom package from backports. Bluetooth is recognized, but it neglects to turn off/on or pair. But it can scan the area and does pick up correctly. LSUSB: https://pastebin.c
[22:27] <DVA5912> LSPCI: https://pastebin.com/axUYYdnz
[22:28] <DVA5912> Does this channel keeps logs of all the chats for online searches?
[22:28] <ikonia> velix: how is that actually a bug ?
[22:29] <ikonia> DVA5912: yes, it's logged publicly
[22:29] <ikonia> !logs | DVA5912
[22:30] <DVA5912> yay
[22:30] <DVA5912> so when i get this fixed, id like to be able to have it available. That is nice :)
[22:30] <DVA5912> Btw, RFKILL List: https://pastebin.com/6TWKE5hu
[22:31] <OerHeks> use paste.ubuntu.com, pastebin is not available for everyone, and expires
[22:32] <jeremy31> DVA5912: You have Broadcom wifi, you likely need firmware for the bluetooth
[22:32] <DVA5912> And Finaly: dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm' : https://pastebin.com/ef9MCk34
[22:32] <DVA5912> jeremy31: right, and to boot its a combo card..
[22:33] <jeremy31> DVA5912: but you found firmware by the looks of dmesg
[22:33] <DVA5912> jeremy31: Ive tried the ones listed at https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/blob/master/brcm/BCM43142A0-04ca-2006.hcd
[22:34] <DVA5912> jeremy31: What concerns me is these: Bluetooth: hci0: urb 000000003db29ad3 failed to resubmit (113)  Makes me think that the driver may be incompatible?
[22:34] <jeremy31> DVA5912: have you done a complete shutdown and cold boot?
[22:35] <DVA5912> jeremy31: you know... i really havent. Give me a moment and ill give that a shot. ive done the bluetooth service restart but if your stating that im guessing that there is more to it than just restarting services
[22:40] <velix> ikonia: I believe the bug is the missing version numbering on the dependencies.
[22:40] <DVA5912__> Gotta love SSD. Full shut down and book back in 20 seconds
[22:40] <ikonia> velix: doesn't read that way, but I guess it's possible
[22:41] <velix> ikonia: Sorry, I'm neither a dev, nor native English speaker. Would be happy if anyone could rewrite a summary in dev words :/
[22:42] <ikonia> velix: not a problem on either issue, I mean I don't see it as a problem with dependency versioning
[22:42] <velix> ikonia: ok :(
[22:43] <DVA5912> This time it still shows whats around, but it failes to connect. And is defently not broadcasting anymore
[22:44] <jeremy31> DVA5912:  post URL from terminal for > hciconfig -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:44] <ikonia> velix: I could be wrong, but I don't see anything in the output of that bug to suggest either a dependency has been missed or incorrectly pulled down due to wrong/incorrect versioning
[22:45] <DVA5912> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/4phn
[22:46] <jeremy31> DVA5912: in terminal do> echo "blacklist btusb" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/btusb.conf
[22:47] <jeremy31> DVA5912: reboot and wait until everything is loaded, open terminal and do> sudo modprobe btusb
[22:48] <DVA5912> jeremy31: Is there anything else after modprobe?
[22:48] <velix> ikonia: After upgrading to a newer meson, the building process works (but fails at executing the tests)
[22:48] <jeremy31> DVA5912: Just test it out, I have had issues with my Atheros bluetooth since using SSD
[22:49] <DVA5912> jeremy31: You got it. Just added to btusb.conf. Will reboot and do the modprobe and let you know.
[22:50] <anma> Hello
[22:52] <ikonia> velix: not sure how you associate that with incorrect versioning
[22:52] <tomreyn> johnfg: east yes, coast no. but let's stick to support in this very channel.
[22:52] <tomreyn> Gerowen: another option is to use an online service for this purpose, which may also provide a print to fax software.
[22:53] <velix> ikonia: right now, meson doesn't have a version number, which needs to be installed. debhelper has (>=11).
[22:54] <velix> ikonia: Since upgrading to a newer meson fixed the problem, there should be an information like meason (>= xx)
[22:54] <velix> When you're on disco, this problem doesn't occure, since you already have "xx" installed.
[22:55] <velix> So it's just a documentation problem of the DSC file ;)
[22:56] <bear38> One more kernel question for the crew here: if something isn't a module, in this case, zswap.c, which provides the zswap that z3fold uses, and I want to change it, is there any simpler way the recompiling the entire kernel?
[22:57] <tomreyn> josefig: see what it says for "The recommend method to disable IPv6 on Ubuntu 18.04" at https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-ipv6-address-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux#h6-instructions
[23:00] <jeremy31> josefig: even using the grub option for disabling IPv6 will still leave you with one IPv6 address
[23:01] <tomreyn> josefig: also consider solving the actual issue which is preventhing things from working with dual stack ipv4 + ipv6, since ipv6 is not going away.
[23:02] <yvyz> bear38: Why would you want to replace a single driver module if you are switching out the entire module?
[23:02] <yvyz> bear38: If your goal is to just change the kernel module, just compile the new kernel module as you need and configure the kernel to use it.
[23:02] <yvyz> bear38: If your goal is to use a different kernel, with a specific module, you can do that as well.
[23:04] <yvyz> bear38: Generally kernel module drivers such as zswap.c rely on other parts of the kernel source code. Compiling them together is a safe best to meeting your dependency requirements.
[23:04] <bear38> yvyz: Well it turns out, I can replace the z3fold module without problems, it was really easy, but 4.15.X doesn't have something I want (same page tracking) in zswap. That feature is only 1 commit. So I'm trying to see if there is some way to replace zswap. According to modinfo, it isn't a kernel module.
[23:06] <bear38> yvyz: so, by compiling them together, you mean compiling the entire kernel at once? And I guess that would be considered a "module driver" rather than a module, since it isn't showing up in modinfo? Thanks for this info btw.
[23:07] <yvyz> bear38: Take a moment to review the include declaration of zswap.c: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/mm/zswap.c
[23:08] <yvyz> declarations*
[23:08] <yvyz> Without getting to far offtopic within this channel, it is important to the kernel that all drivers and functions that reference shared types actually reference the same shared type.
[23:09] <yvyz> Hence, compiling together is a SAFE way of insuring this.
[23:09] <DVA5912> jeremy31, I have performed the modprobe. And retested. Unfortunently i havent seen any changes
[23:10] <yvyz> If it is important for you to get your ubuntu instance to run a specific module that you want to custom backport for a specific kernel, download that kernels source, modify the file you want, and compile the entire kernel. Then consider loading that kernel and booting that kernel from grub.
[23:11] <yvyz> Otherwise this is better suited for #linux, #debian
[23:12] <yvyz> Given that you are doing this for the  need of high efficiency swapping, one would assume that you will need reliability as well.
[23:13] <jeremy31> DVA5912: try in terminal> bluetoothctl
[23:13] <jeremy31> see if that finds anything
[23:13] <bear38> yvyz: I'm seeing it includes module.h, but I didn't see the same module declaration that I saw in z3fold.c, so I was thinking that it was not a kernel module, plus I couldn't find a .ko file for it on my system. I have built a custom kernel today so that isn't too hard. But, if there was an easier way, like there was for z3fold, I was hoping to understand what that might be. Sorry if I'm missing something here. Basically just making sure there isn't an
[23:13] <bear38> easier way to modify zswap.c, like there is an easy way to do it for z3fold.c with a module build.
[23:14] <yvyz> bear38: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/mm/z3fold.c
[23:14] <yvyz> z3fold relies on linux/module.h as well
[23:15] <bear38> Ya, I follow on that. But that doesn
[23:16] <bear38> 't mean that it is itself (swap) a kernel module, right?
[23:16] <yvyz> Swapping is a kernel function
[23:16] <yvyz> What drives swapping are modules. z3fold is a kernel module
[23:17] <DVA5912> jeremy31, before hand, i had a problem turning the module on, and now i got a problem turning it off.. im presume its the same thing https://pastebin.com/K2bigFE3
[23:18] <bear38> Ok, so what I'm gathering here is, if I modify both z3fold.c and zswapc, with two separate changes, and just rebuild the z3fold kernel module, the changes that I made to zwap.c will take effect through that single kernel module.
[23:18] <jeremy31> DVA5912:  try commands> power on, then scan on  in bluetoothctl
[23:19] <yvyz> yea, but you will still have to direct the kernel to load the z3fold module after you compile and install it.
[23:19] <yvyz> At this point, we are out of band for #ubuntu
[23:19] <DVA5912> jeremy31, was already in process of doing that :) discovery started is all its bringing up at this point
[23:19] <yvyz> Please take the rest of this to #linux-kernel
[23:20] <DVA5912> jeremy31, It just timed out, resulting in "Failed to register advertisement: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply"
[23:20] <bear38> yvyz: thanks a lot, once again, and to jeremy31 too. I didn't know that channel existed, thanks.
[23:20] <yvyz> np
[23:20] <yvyz> <3 and gl
[23:21] <bear38> haha ty
[23:22] <jeremy31> DVA5912: You might have to find a different firmware file
[23:23] <DVA5912> jeremy31, i would have to agree. trying to run scan again produces: "Failed to start discovery: org.bluez.Error.InProgress". Ill see what i can find then.
[23:23] <DVA5912> Thanks for the guidance however!
[23:24] <jeremy31> DVA5912: you haven't installed bluez from PPA or github?
[23:28] <Jakethepython> hello room am having trouble w/ PDF mod and PDFMix programs they keep shutting down with Got a SIGABRT while executing native code. This usually indicates
[23:28] <Jakethepython> a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
[23:28] <Jakethepython> used by your application.
[23:29] <DVA5912> jeremy31, I did install it. PPA source
[23:30] <DVA5912> jeremy31, I think the drivers were the issue. still waiting for things to settle down but it looks like i got it Maybe
[23:30] <jeremy31> DVA5912: I would go back to oem Ubuntu for anything bluez
[23:33] <DVA5912> jeremy31, I agree. Im not using Bluez however. And plan on removing it. I ended up removing everything BCM* from /lib/firmware/brcm and then folowing this article https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=256099
[23:34] <jeremy31> DVA5912: The file likely does not exist on dropbox anymore
[23:34] <DVA5912> It does, thankfully :)
[23:34] <DVA5912> Im going to end up taking it and storing it in my GDrive
[23:35] <DVA5912> I need to do a full reboot jeremy31. Brb
[23:35] <jeremy31> DVA5912: I thought I deleted a lot of that from my dropbox
[23:35] <DVA5912> wait...
[23:37] <DVA5912> well the reboot went through before i could finish
[23:37] <DVA5912> Did you write that article jeremy31 ?
[23:37] <jeremy31> DVA5912: I am Mint forums moderator Jeremyb
[23:38] <DVA5912> jeremy31, well shoot :) Didnt know i was talking to a celebrity!
[23:38] <jeremy31> Also ubuntuforums.org moderator using current nick
[23:39] <OerHeks> mint articles spam, which is actually the fix to https://askubuntu.com/a/632348
[23:39] <OerHeks> :-(
[23:40] <jeremy31> DVA5912: sometimes the firmware works, sometimes it doesn't.  The driver download I used is no longer available
[23:40] <OerHeks> don do dropbox, use a genuine way
[23:40] <jeremy31> OerHeks: ask Pilot6 about who helped him get his bluetooth working 4 years ago
[23:42] <DVA5912> I may have to build this from scratch then with the official drivers from Asus..
[23:42] <DVA5912> this is gunna suck
[23:43] <jeremy31> DVA5912: Problem #2 will likely be wifi interference with bluetooth if there are a lot of wifi routers around
[23:45] <DVA5912> jeremy31, Is there a way to over come that? Where i am right now (Truck Stop on I70) there isnt that much going on. But at home.. all the channels are loaded
[23:53] <DVA5912> jeremy31, I think my issue was definently bad drivers. So to fix this, i removed all BCM* files from /lib/firmware/brcm/, downloaded https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/blob/master/brcm/BCM43142A0-04ca-2006.hcd, released prior driver by sudo modprobe -r btusb and reloaded with sudo modprobe btusb. Came up successfuly and paired instantly
[23:57] <tomreyn> Jakethepython: if those are applications which are in ubuntu, you can file a bug against it using "ubuntu-bug <packagename>"
[23:58] <Jakethepython> ok
[23:58] <DVA5912> note to self... dont remove Bluez