| mykhyggz | so I want to install this next to my windoze and ubuntu lts. I have free partition sda8. mounted is /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi -- so when I get the option to do "something else" do I just accept boot on /dev/sda and select sda8, then? Overwriting my work install won't be okay... ;-) | 00:12 |
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| mykhyggz | meh. well, maybe I'll have one more chance to abort before it wrecks up my other partitions, if I don't pick right. Cheers, all. | 00:23 |
| mykhyggz | well, I totally chickened out -- I can't see what I'm to do to be sure I'm installing on a free partition and not b0rking my work installations. I have an ext4 ready, /boot exists, swap exists. I shouldn't need to format or partition... :( | 00:47 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| Blackadder | Why does uninstalling a mail reader in xubuntu also remove the xubuntu desktop environment? | 09:13 |
| Blackadder | The same goes for other seemingly harmless 'redundant' software. | 09:14 |
| gnrp | Blackadder: What do you mean? That xubuntu-* package is removed? | 09:16 |
| Blackadder | Well I'm not on xubuntu atm, but yesterday, when I removed mail reader, and rebooted, I couldn't do anything on the desktop | 09:16 |
| Blackadder | everything was gone | 09:16 |
| gnrp | Blackadder: These are meta packages, which means they do not have any content to themselves, but provide dependencies on all the packages that are assumed to be on a system | 09:17 |
| gnrp | yu should never remove any xubuntu-* package | 09:17 |
| Blackadder | damn that's annoying | 09:17 |
| Unit193 | Well, xubuntu-desktop is pretty safe to lose actually, though I don't know if GNOME software handles that very very poorly. | 09:18 |
| Blackadder | I'm on lubuntu atm, and when I try to remove pidgin from the synaptic package manager, it will also remove lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-gtk-desktop | 09:19 |
| Blackadder | seems silly that those things must co-exist | 09:19 |
| DarkTrick | I'm on xubuntu. Pidgin was no problem to remove | 09:20 |
| Blackadder | yeah I think I could remove that one as well | 09:20 |
| Blackadder | but there were others, seemingly redundant, that completely ruined my desktop | 09:20 |
| Unit193 | Yeah but it's not important for xubuntu-desktop to be installed, though the upgrader (to newer releases) will re-install it. | 09:22 |
| Blackadder | I don't understand why it isnt important, if it removing it makes my desktop unusable | 09:24 |
| Unit193 | Well, it simply shouldn't do that. I don't have -desktop and haven't for quite some time. | 09:25 |
| DarkTrick | Unit193, you're working only on a tty? | 09:29 |
| Unit193 | If by "tty" you mean "Xfce DE", then sure. Otherwise no. | 09:29 |
| Blackadder | Anyway, thanks for the replies guys | 09:30 |
| Unit193 | Blackadder: What'd you use to uninstall thunderbird? | 09:30 |
| Unit193 | Err, 'mail reader'. Do you mean thunderbird or...exo itself? | 09:30 |
| Blackadder | it was called mail reader in the 'software shop' | 09:31 |
| Unit193 | I'd personally recommend anything but that, but that *may* mean 'exo', which is not an email client but something important to Xfce. | 09:31 |
| Blackadder | makes sense, I think | 09:33 |
| DarkTrick | Would probably nice to mark it as such in the software center. | 09:33 |
| brainwash | Blackadder: bug 1783764 | 10:19 |
| ubottu | bug 1783764 in exo (Ubuntu) "Deleting "Mail Reader" crashes the computer" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783764 | 10:19 |
| Blackadder | crashes computer is a bit exaggerated | 10:19 |
| brainwash | so, mail reader is a shortcut provided by exo, and exo is an essential component of xfce | 10:20 |
| rebab | Is 20 GB HDD enough for Xubuntu? | 14:23 |
| GridCube | yes | 14:27 |
| dff | i tried everything google has to offer on this | 18:19 |
| dff | after installing nvidias drivers the splash screen is low res | 18:20 |
| dff | this did not help unfortunately . https://www.onetransistor.eu/2016/03/plymouth-fix-nvidia.html | 18:28 |
| brainwash | dff: I would ask in #ubuntu | 18:34 |
| brainwash | personally, I never bothered with this, and just disabled the boot splash | 18:35 |
| dff | ive tried like 50 solutions | 18:38 |
| dff | none work, my grub and initramfs-tools files look like aids now | 18:39 |
| === Blackadderrr is now known as Blackadder | ||
| === Blackadder is now known as Gobelijn | ||
| Gobelijn | Thanks to whoever helped me this morning with answering my questions about meta packages and why they deleted my desktop environment | 19:16 |
| Gobelijn | Xubuntu has now become my main distro. | 19:16 |
| dff | i just have one hang out after using it for a couple of days | 19:19 |
| dff | the bottom right corner of the window manage is like 1 pixel wide to invoke the resize window mechanic | 19:20 |
| dff | other than that it's looking like it will become my main too | 19:20 |
| Gobelijn | Yeah true, I changed the theme to Daloa to prevent that | 19:20 |
| dff | i havent got that far yet | 19:20 |
| Gobelijn | Its in window manager | 19:20 |
| dff | oh | 19:21 |
| Gobelijn | Below style | 19:21 |
| dff | ah nice | 19:21 |
| dff | thanks | 19:21 |
| Gobelijn | your welcome | 19:21 |
| Gobelijn | you're | 19:21 |
| Gobelijn | I spent the last 3 days trying out different distros | 19:21 |
| dff | ive spent weeks | 19:22 |
| dff | i give a distro 3 weeks | 19:22 |
| dff | last one to get thrown out was linux mint | 19:22 |
| dff | ive yet to try arch or gentoo tho | 19:23 |
| dff | im not sure im cool enough | 19:23 |
| Gobelijn | hahah | 19:23 |
| Gobelijn | It was a close match between lubuntu and opensuse | 19:24 |
| Gobelijn | This morning I stumbled upon peppermint, which looked very promising and felt the same | 19:24 |
| Gobelijn | but its not as lightweight as l/xubuntu | 19:24 |
| dff | bottom line for me is the DE | 19:26 |
| dff | what's beneath doesnt really matter much to me | 19:26 |
| dff | debian based is a + tho | 19:26 |
| Gobelijn | can't believe I've never had to do this in linux before | 19:31 |
| Gobelijn | but how do you hide a map? | 19:31 |
| Gobelijn | oh, just place a dot at start of name | 19:32 |
| Gobelijn | cool | 19:32 |
| dff | you've never had to edit dotfiles? | 19:35 |
| dff | or use ls -a? :) | 19:35 |
| Gobelijn | no idea what that last thing means | 19:42 |
| dff | open a terminal | 19:43 |
| dff | type ls -a and enter | 19:43 |
| dff | ls = list | 19:43 |
| dff | -a = all | 19:44 |
| Gobelijn | Ah yeah I remember | 19:46 |
| Gobelijn | the ls | 19:46 |
| Gobelijn | wasn't thinking clearly | 19:46 |
| dff | you'll get a lot more out of your linux experience if you start getting comfortable with the command line | 19:49 |
| dff | i use it way more than any gui front end | 19:50 |
| Gobelijn | I used sudo nano this morning, so thats something :p | 19:50 |
| dff | a start | 19:50 |
| Gobelijn | to edit a protected file | 19:51 |
| Gobelijn | but you're right though | 19:51 |
| dff | you changed a configuration file i take it | 19:51 |
| Gobelijn | should use it way more often | 19:51 |
| Gobelijn | yes | 19:51 |
| Gobelijn | goddamn I'm happy with xubuntu | 20:35 |
| === fears is now known as hopes | ||
| Kumool | (its a damn lie! run away!) | 22:36 |
| === fears is now known as hopes | ||
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