[00:12] so I want to install this next to my windoze and ubuntu lts. I have free partition sda8. mounted is /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi -- so when I get the option to do "something else" do I just accept boot on /dev/sda and select sda8, then? Overwriting my work install won't be okay... ;-) [00:23] meh. well, maybe I'll have one more chance to abort before it wrecks up my other partitions, if I don't pick right. Cheers, all. [00:47] well, I totally chickened out -- I can't see what I'm to do to be sure I'm installing on a free partition and not b0rking my work installations. I have an ext4 ready, /boot exists, swap exists. I shouldn't need to format or partition... :( === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [09:13] Why does uninstalling a mail reader in xubuntu also remove the xubuntu desktop environment? [09:14] The same goes for other seemingly harmless 'redundant' software. [09:16] Blackadder: What do you mean? That xubuntu-* package is removed? [09:16] Well I'm not on xubuntu atm, but yesterday, when I removed mail reader, and rebooted, I couldn't do anything on the desktop [09:16] everything was gone [09:17] Blackadder: These are meta packages, which means they do not have any content to themselves, but provide dependencies on all the packages that are assumed to be on a system [09:17] yu should never remove any xubuntu-* package [09:17] damn that's annoying [09:18] Well, xubuntu-desktop is pretty safe to lose actually, though I don't know if GNOME software handles that very very poorly. [09:19] I'm on lubuntu atm, and when I try to remove pidgin from the synaptic package manager, it will also remove lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-gtk-desktop [09:19] seems silly that those things must co-exist [09:20] I'm on xubuntu. Pidgin was no problem to remove [09:20] yeah I think I could remove that one as well [09:20] but there were others, seemingly redundant, that completely ruined my desktop [09:22] Yeah but it's not important for xubuntu-desktop to be installed, though the upgrader (to newer releases) will re-install it. [09:24] I don't understand why it isnt important, if it removing it makes my desktop unusable [09:25] Well, it simply shouldn't do that. I don't have -desktop and haven't for quite some time. [09:29] Unit193, you're working only on a tty? [09:29] If by "tty" you mean "Xfce DE", then sure. Otherwise no. [09:30] Anyway, thanks for the replies guys [09:30] Blackadder: What'd you use to uninstall thunderbird? [09:30] Err, 'mail reader'. Do you mean thunderbird or...exo itself? [09:31] it was called mail reader in the 'software shop' [09:31] I'd personally recommend anything but that, but that *may* mean 'exo', which is not an email client but something important to Xfce. [09:33] makes sense, I think [09:33] Would probably nice to mark it as such in the software center. [10:19] Blackadder: bug 1783764 [10:19] bug 1783764 in exo (Ubuntu) "Deleting "Mail Reader" crashes the computer" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783764 [10:19] crashes computer is a bit exaggerated [10:20] so, mail reader is a shortcut provided by exo, and exo is an essential component of xfce [14:23] Is 20 GB HDD enough for Xubuntu? [14:27] yes [18:19] i tried everything google has to offer on this [18:20] after installing nvidias drivers the splash screen is low res [18:28] this did not help unfortunately . https://www.onetransistor.eu/2016/03/plymouth-fix-nvidia.html [18:34] dff: I would ask in #ubuntu [18:35] personally, I never bothered with this, and just disabled the boot splash [18:38] ive tried like 50 solutions [18:39] none work, my grub and initramfs-tools files look like aids now === Blackadderrr is now known as Blackadder === Blackadder is now known as Gobelijn [19:16] Thanks to whoever helped me this morning with answering my questions about meta packages and why they deleted my desktop environment [19:16] Xubuntu has now become my main distro. [19:19] i just have one hang out after using it for a couple of days [19:20] the bottom right corner of the window manage is like 1 pixel wide to invoke the resize window mechanic [19:20] other than that it's looking like it will become my main too [19:20] Yeah true, I changed the theme to Daloa to prevent that [19:20] i havent got that far yet [19:20] Its in window manager [19:21] oh [19:21] Below style [19:21] ah nice [19:21] thanks [19:21] your welcome [19:21] you're [19:21] I spent the last 3 days trying out different distros [19:22] ive spent weeks [19:22] i give a distro 3 weeks [19:22] last one to get thrown out was linux mint [19:23] ive yet to try arch or gentoo tho [19:23] im not sure im cool enough [19:23] hahah [19:24] It was a close match between lubuntu and opensuse [19:24] This morning I stumbled upon peppermint, which looked very promising and felt the same [19:24] but its not as lightweight as l/xubuntu [19:26] bottom line for me is the DE [19:26] what's beneath doesnt really matter much to me [19:26] debian based is a + tho [19:31] can't believe I've never had to do this in linux before [19:31] but how do you hide a map? [19:32] oh, just place a dot at start of name [19:32] cool [19:35] you've never had to edit dotfiles? [19:35] or use ls -a? :) [19:42] no idea what that last thing means [19:43] open a terminal [19:43] type ls -a and enter [19:43] ls = list [19:44] -a = all [19:46] Ah yeah I remember [19:46] the ls [19:46] wasn't thinking clearly [19:49] you'll get a lot more out of your linux experience if you start getting comfortable with the command line [19:50] i use it way more than any gui front end [19:50] I used sudo nano this morning, so thats something :p [19:50] a start [19:51] to edit a protected file [19:51] but you're right though [19:51] you changed a configuration file i take it [19:51] should use it way more often [19:51] yes [20:35] goddamn I'm happy with xubuntu === fears is now known as hopes [22:36] (its a damn lie! run away!) === fears is now known as hopes