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didrocksgood morning06:55
dufluMorning didrocks06:55
dufluTime to water the flowers then :)06:55
didrocksduflu: heh happy to be your trigger to water your flowers :)06:56
jibelGood morning07:04
dufluMorning jibel and seb12807:10
dufludidrocks, that may fail on weekends07:10
didrockssalut jibel07:11
didrocksduflu: indeed :p07:11
jibelHi duflu, didrocks07:14
jbichaseb128: I think the incomplete poppler transition needs to be handled for the glibc transition07:58
jbichaI'm not really handling gnome-shell this release cycle :)08:01
dufluOh, also morning to jbicha08:02
dufluor afternoon or evening or...08:03
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jbichaI woke up in the middle of the night, back to sleep :)08:05
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers08:09
dufluHi oSoMoN08:10
oSoMoNhey duflu08:10
didrockshey oSoMoN08:13
oSoMoNsalut didrocks08:14
seb128lut didrocks, oSoMoN, jibel08:40
seb128hey duflu08:40
seb128night jbicha :)08:40
oSoMoNsalut seb12808:40
seb128how is everyone?08:40
dufluseb128, it's basically Monday here. So catching up. You?08:40
seb128I'm ok, still a bit sick and tired, I should stop working late and get some more sleep08:41
seb128but weeks are too busy atm, I need to assign some of the bugs I put to my todo to others :)08:41
dufluseb128, on that note I keep hearing about recent discoveries in the glymphatic system. Just another reason to try and get better sleep08:43
didrockshey seb12808:44
xnoxGood morning desktop =)08:44
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/181861608:44
oSoMoNsame as du_flu here, catching up with what everyone who’ve started their week on Monday have been up to08:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1818616 in systemd (Ubuntu) "gnome-keyring is not unlocked upon gdm login in disco" [Undecided,New]08:44
xnoxwho wants to troll logind vs gdm3 vs gnome-keyring vs pam ?! =)08:44
seb128xnox, we fixed that yesterday08:45
seb128xnox, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/3.31.91-1ubuntu108:45
xnoxseb128, ah!08:45
seb128bug #181712808:45
ubot5bug 1817128 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "gnome-keyring not automatically unlocked on login" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181712808:45
seb128xnox, I'm marking it dup, thx08:45
xnoxseb128, well, i should totally upgrade before logging in =)08:45
seb128:)08:45
xnoxseb128, well done! thank you =)08:45
seb128yw!08:45
Laneymoin09:00
dufluMorning Laney and willcooke09:00
willcookehi duflu09:01
oSoMoNgood morning Laney, willcooke09:04
willcookehi oSoMoN09:05
Laneymoin oSoMoN (sorry for the delay!)10:11
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acheronukis anyone dealing with why the daily iso is (presumably not passing QA) so latest in 'current' is 26th Feb?10:23
Laneyyep, jibe_l has been looking into that10:25
acheronukok. thanks10:26
seb128its that partman bug, which is fixed in debian/ubuntu now10:30
seb128needs an ubiquity rebuild and new iso10:30
LaneyCI was already not promoting before that, did that get fixed?10:32
jibelno, this bug is shadowing the other issue10:39
Laneynod, that one should be fixed today at least10:44
acheronukright. btw, any russian speakers here?11:06
Laneyxnox or mitya57 AFAIK11:07
acheronukI want to confirm this is saying 'Chinese' in Russian https://i.imgur.com/lM4DpnD.png11:09
acheronukif it is, then I can mark a bug as a dupe11:09
jibelacheronuk, according to google translate that's what it says https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B011:27
jibelno sure how much I trust google translate though11:29
acheronukjibel: this is what I was looking at LP: #181817411:29
ubot5Launchpad bug 1818174 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No Chinese keyboard layout options after Chinese simplified installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181817411:29
acheronukI was 95% sure that was a dupe of LP #181745311:30
ubot5Launchpad bug 1817453 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "19.04 installer displays keyboard layouts in the wrong language" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181745311:30
acheronuki.e. the chinese option is there, just in Russian!11:30
mitya57acheronuk: your screenshot is not Russian, looks like Bulgarian11:45
mitya57(everything, not just label for Chinese)11:46
acheronukmitya57: ah. I see. Other sections are clearly in Dutch. just not in view on that screenshot11:54
Laneyxnox: can I upload ubiquity?11:56
LaneyI've just done a test install with a new version that's just debian/rules update11:56
Laney(well, it's actually still in progress but I think it's going to work :>)11:57
Laneyjbicha: in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1817900/comments/3, did you mean 3.31.91 of g-s-d? i.e. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/1219c924d74838bec48780a07684257670a44f1e & co12:00
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1817900 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "FFe 3.31.90" [High,Fix committed]12:00
jbichayes12:01
Laneynod12:02
LaneyI guess just Depends: libmutter-4-dev (>= 3.31.91) ought to do it, thanks to B-D-P12:03
Laneyhmm, maybe not, there's no shared library depends there12:04
Laneygnome-shell Breaks: g-s-d << 3.31.91?12:08
Laneyor the other way round12:09
* Laney is confuse12:09
tjaaltonkenvandine: please test xserver from cosmic-proposed for bug 175469312:33
ubot5bug 1754693 in xorg-server-hwe-18.04 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Xwayland/Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in st_renderbuffer_delete() from _mesa_reference_renderbuffer_() [often when running Skype or Slack snaps]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175469312:33
Laneyxnox: timeout, doing it12:53
Laneyis the meeting in 12 minutes or 72 minutes?14:17
LaneyI have both on my calendar14:18
seb1281214:18
seb128did we start dst fun?14:18
Laneyguess so14:18
Laneythe Ubuntu Fridge event is wrong here14:18
willcookeMeeting time!14:30
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-03-0514:30
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kenvandineo/14:30
willcookeRoll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)14:31
jibelhola o/14:31
Trevinhoo/14:31
didrockshey14:31
oSoMoNo/14:31
andyrocko/14:31
seb128hey14:31
willcookejamesh, please can you add your weekly update to: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-4th-march-2019/10020/1314:32
willcookeok, I've sent round the tracking rls bugs, so lets look at any new bugs coming in and accept/decline them.  Starting with Bionic14:33
willcooke1 new one, which isnt assigned atm14:33
willcookehttp://launchpad.net/bugs/181252714:33
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1812527 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[bionic][regression] gnome-shell crashes with SIGSEGV in meta_window_actor_is_destroyed(self=NULL) called from _switchWorkspaceDone() [windowManager.js:1787]" [High,Triaged]14:33
willcookeDaniel tagged it14:34
TrevinhoI had some ideas on fixing this in gjs for some long time14:34
TrevinhoI might get it14:34
seb128the title says regression, is that a regression from a SRU in bionic?14:35
seb128if so it probably makes sense to target it14:35
Trevinhowell, I expec to have still a wrong behavior before...14:35
didrockshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1812527/comments/1814:35
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1812527 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[bionic][regression] gnome-shell crashes with SIGSEGV in meta_window_actor_is_destroyed(self=NULL) called from _switchWorkspaceDone() [windowManager.js:1787]" [High,Triaged]14:35
didrocksseems like it ^14:36
seb128+1 for targetting and assigning to Trevinho14:36
andyrock+!14:36
andyrock+114:36
willcookeLooks like quite a few people are seeing it14:36
willcooke+1 from mee14:36
didrocksandyrock: invalid cast :p but +1 as android emulator is quite common14:37
willcookek, done,.14:37
willcookethat's it for B.  On to C....14:37
willcookelist is empty ( \o/ )14:38
willcookeOn to D14:38
willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:38
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/181824614:38
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1818246 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "update-notifier's notification is huge due to large icon" [High,Confirmed]14:38
andyrockI saw it happening in bionic too14:39
andyrockfew days ago in the laptop of my gf14:39
seb128I would vote -1 to target based on the fact that we only got one report so far14:39
kenvandinetkamppeter: please look at the NM for bugs14:39
seb128andyrock, is that your fault/livepatch? ;)14:39
andyrockseb128: I don't think so :)14:39
didrocksand I just got it as we speak14:39
willcookeha14:40
andyrockit's happening also with other apps14:40
didrocksandyrock: do you have an example? Would be easier to reproduce than this one14:40
didrocksI can have a look if we have an easy reproducer14:40
andyrocknot that I can think of (but it happened to me as well and it was not update-notifier)14:41
willcookedidrocks, if you can find a reproducer, then we could update the bug and take a look again next time?14:41
didrockswillcooke: agreed, I'll at least to find a reproducer for next week14:41
willcookethanks14:41
seb128thx didrocks14:42
andyrockin the mean-time I'll check if my gf has the new update-notifier14:42
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/181702014:42
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1817020 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu Disco) "Touching and dragging an icon on the dock blocks input to other apps" [High,In progress]14:42
andyrockfixed upstream (in gnome-shell)14:42
willcookeThats still showing in incoming, but sounds like we have a fix14:42
LaneyI just fixed the rest of the bugs in incoming14:42
willcookeha14:43
willcookethanks Laney14:43
Laneythe tag is *rls-dd-notfixing*, not "notfixing"14:43
willcookethat's the end of the list then14:43
willcookeNot bad.14:43
willcookeLet's talk about proposed-migrations14:43
willcookehttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:43
willcookeLaney, do you want to take us through it?14:44
seb128no review or -tracking unsassigned?14:44
seb128of14:44
willcookethere shouldnt be anything in tracking which is unassigned, right?14:44
Laneyit happens if things get nominated directly14:45
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/175019714:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1750197 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "App grid animation causes heavy CPU spikes and dropped frames in Wayland & Xorg" [Medium,Triaged]14:45
Laneyshould just get assigned to duflu14:45
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/179513514:46
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1795135 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu Cosmic) "XFCE window buttons are not clickable at the top of the screen" [Undecided,Triaged]14:46
Laney🤷14:46
didrockslalala14:46
Laneynotfixing for our team probably?14:46
xnoxLaney, tah, i was in ubuntu-core lalala land and meeting.14:46
seb128invalid for xorg-server?14:47
didrocksLaney: yep14:47
Laneynp14:47
Laneydunno14:47
Laneynot going to triage it now14:47
willcookethat xfce one should probably be invalid14:47
seb128+1 for -notfixing14:47
seb128seems like it has been fixed/workarounded on the xfce side anyway14:47
LaneyI mean there is a link to an upstream bug there (#30) so not sure, but this isn't the place to look at that14:48
Laneyk14:48
willcookeyah14:48
willcookek, moving back to proposed-migrations14:48
willcookeLaney, anything you want to raise14:48
seb128:)14:48
Laneythis week I just tried making cards for things14:48
Laneyhttps://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle?menu=filter&filter=label:proposed-migration14:49
Laneyso there's some that need assigning, don't think we need to discuss anything here tho14:49
willcookecool!  thanks Laney14:49
seb128ah, nice14:49
willcookelets work on getting them assigned later seb12814:49
seb128+114:49
willcookeand then finally in this section, let's take a look at errors.u.c and see if there is anything we should be aware of....14:50
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/172996314:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1729963 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser crashed in OnConnectionDisconnectedFilter()" [High,Confirmed]14:50
willcookeoSoMoN is already on the case14:50
willcookeA private gvfs bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/92734014:51
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 927340 not found14:51
willcookeWhich dates from 201214:51
kenvandinewow, that's old14:52
willcookehrm. not sure about that one, 400 something reports.  Probably not too much to worry about there14:52
willcookeThe main one in that list if Plymouth, and thats now fixed.14:53
willcookeSo I dont think there is much to worry about in errors14:53
willcookeI think thats the end then.14:53
willcookeBefore we move to AOB, anyone got anything to add to that ^14:53
willcookewell, actually, if you have, lets talk about it afterwards14:54
andyrockwe should probably fix e.u.c :)14:54
willcooke#topic AOB14:54
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andyrocki need to refresh the page 10 times to make it display something14:54
andyrock:(14:54
seb128(I think we should have someone pre-review the e.u.c list before the meeting and tag rls-nn-incoming bugs)14:54
tkamppeterkenvandine, willcooke, did you see my e-mails about Trent and Avahi?14:54
willcookeseb128, +114:54
Laney+1 for pre-review14:54
tkamppeterSeems that we can forget about the good news I presented on the first day in Malta.14:54
willcooketkamppeter, I did.  Thats disappointing.  Lets see if he comes back with anything.14:55
tkamppeterSeems that its now back into Treent's hobby drawer and will not be done, making standard-conforming printing Ubuntu-exclusive.14:55
tkamppeterwillcooke, kenvandine, could we try to ask HR (or Trent's manager) that they move some of his hours to maintainership of Avahi?14:56
Laneyyou might want to talk about that outside of the meeting and this channel ...14:56
willcooketkamppeter, No, that's not appropriate.  Lets talk about it later14:57
tkamppeterOr at least can someone of you chase him somehow?14:57
willcookeany more AOB?14:57
seb128not from me14:57
didrocksnope14:57
willcookeok, then we will wrap here14:58
willcooke#endmeeting14:58
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar  5 14:58:12 2019 UTC.14:58
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-03-05-14.30.moin.txt14:58
willcookethanks all14:58
andyrockthx14:58
oSoMoNthanks14:58
didrocksthx14:58
seb128thx14:58
Laneyan administrative reminder, when rls tagging bugs you need to remove rls-NN-incoming otherwise they stay on that list14:58
Laneythx for the meeting14:58
Laneyless than half an hour is always a win14:58
seb128:)14:58
seb128thx for the reminder, I keep forgetting about untagging14:59
Laneythe reports could probably be improved to make the other criteria win over incoming so that's not necessary14:59
seb128I should look at fixing the script to make it skip the tag if there is a matching target accepted14:59
seb128:)14:59
Laneybut until that happens, need to remember14:59
seb128right14:59
* seb128 adds a note to backlog14:59
seb128kenvandine, can you ask Robert to update bug #1817223 and make sure it's tracked? gnome-software new serie is blocked in proposed until that's sorted out, https://github.com/hughsie/libxmlb/pull/15 got merged upstream but that needs to land in an update and also he hinted that appstream-glib needs work as well15:02
ubot5bug 1817223 in libxmlb (Ubuntu) "[disco-proposed] The list of applications in Ubuntu Software is empty" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181722315:02
gitbothughsie issue (Pull request) 15 in libxmlb "Allow nesting XbBuilderSource content type handlers" [Enhancement, Closed]15:02
Laneyah didn't we convert that to an rls bug last week?15:02
kenvandinewill do15:03
seb128Laney, unsure why it didn't work, maybe launchpad timeouted or something, properly targetted now15:35
Laneynice one15:36
seb128thx for pointing it out15:36
* Laney goes for a super late lunch15:40
willcooke19.10 board here:  https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-191015:40
seb128Laney, enjoy!15:42
kenvandinesnap parallel installs are cool :)16:50
kenvandinei can now install all the candidate and edge channels at the same time :)16:50
andyrockLaney: I'm not sure it would be easy to get that exception17:05
andyrockthe problem is not reproducible with gnome-shell master because the code to trigger the deadlock is in a distro patch17:06
andyrocksaid that should I ask for a exception anyway? :)17:06
Laneyk17:06
Laneywould be nice, but up to you17:07
andyrockLaney: I'll try17:08
andyrockin a moment, working on a gnome-control-center crash right now :(17:08
seb128andyrock squashing all the bugs :)17:37
andyrockseb128: just run "gnome-control-center wifi"17:38
andyrockand then "gnome-control-center online-accounts add firefox"17:38
andyrockI've already a "fix"17:38
seb128good, we can distro patch as we update to .92 :)17:41
om26erHi! Will Disco get GNOME 3.32 ?17:42
om26er...assuming it gets released by 13th March :)17:46
Laneyyes17:48
wxljbicha, Laney: tsimonq2 suggested I ask you about a GTK2 issue we seem to have uncovered. bug 1782984 seems to have GTK2 as its root cause and has affected multiple GTK2 apps. those apps with GTK3 support have no such problems when used with GTK3 and not GTK2. so where do i go from here to triage this?18:10
ubot5bug 1782984 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM crashes frequently on Lubuntu 18.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178298418:11
willcookenight all18:29
andyrockEOD! night all18:50
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jbichawxl: sorry I don't have time now to investigate gtk2 issues :(23:40
wxljbicha: i guess investigation is not so much what i'm asking for so much as suggestions on pushing upstream23:42
jbichahttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues23:42
jbichathere is a template for "crash"23:43
wxlthanks23:43
jbichasorry I couldn't be more helpful23:45
wxlit's better than nothing XD23:46

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