[06:55] <didrocks> good morning
[06:55] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:55] <duflu> Time to water the flowers then :)
[06:56] <didrocks> duflu: heh happy to be your trigger to water your flowers :)
[07:04] <jibel> Good morning
[07:10] <duflu> Morning jibel and seb128
[07:10] <duflu> didrocks, that may fail on weekends
[07:11] <didrocks> salut jibel
[07:11] <didrocks> duflu: indeed :p
[07:14] <jibel> Hi duflu, didrocks
[07:58] <jbicha> seb128: I think the incomplete poppler transition needs to be handled for the glibc transition
[08:01] <jbicha> I'm not really handling gnome-shell this release cycle :)
[08:02] <duflu> Oh, also morning to jbicha
[08:03] <duflu> or afternoon or evening or...
[08:05] <jbicha> I woke up in the middle of the night, back to sleep :)
[08:09] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:10] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[08:10] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:13] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[08:14] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[08:40] <seb128> lut didrocks, oSoMoN, jibel
[08:40] <seb128> hey duflu
[08:40] <seb128> night jbicha :)
[08:40] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[08:40] <seb128> how is everyone?
[08:40] <duflu> seb128, it's basically Monday here. So catching up. You?
[08:41] <seb128> I'm ok, still a bit sick and tired, I should stop working late and get some more sleep
[08:41] <seb128> but weeks are too busy atm, I need to assign some of the bugs I put to my todo to others :)
[08:43] <duflu> seb128, on that note I keep hearing about recent discoveries in the glymphatic system. Just another reason to try and get better sleep
[08:44] <didrocks> hey seb128
[08:44] <xnox> Good morning desktop =)
[08:44] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1818616
[08:44] <oSoMoN> same as du_flu here, catching up with what everyone who’ve started their week on Monday have been up to
[08:44] <xnox> who wants to troll logind vs gdm3 vs gnome-keyring vs pam ?! =)
[08:45] <seb128> xnox, we fixed that yesterday
[08:45] <seb128> xnox, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/3.31.91-1ubuntu1
[08:45] <xnox> seb128, ah!
[08:45] <seb128> bug #1817128
[08:45] <seb128> xnox, I'm marking it dup, thx
[08:45] <xnox> seb128, well, i should totally upgrade before logging in =)
[08:45] <seb128> :)
[08:45] <xnox> seb128, well done! thank you =)
[08:45] <seb128> yw!
[09:00] <Laney> moin
[09:00] <duflu> Morning Laney and willcooke
[09:01] <willcooke> hi duflu
[09:04] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney, willcooke
[09:05] <willcooke> hi oSoMoN
[10:11] <Laney> moin oSoMoN (sorry for the delay!)
[10:23] <acheronuk> is anyone dealing with why the daily iso is (presumably not passing QA) so latest in 'current' is 26th Feb?
[10:25] <Laney> yep, jibe_l has been looking into that
[10:26] <acheronuk> ok. thanks
[10:30] <seb128> its that partman bug, which is fixed in debian/ubuntu now
[10:30] <seb128> needs an ubiquity rebuild and new iso
[10:32] <Laney> CI was already not promoting before that, did that get fixed?
[10:39] <jibel> no, this bug is shadowing the other issue
[10:44] <Laney> nod, that one should be fixed today at least
[11:06] <acheronuk> right. btw, any russian speakers here?
[11:07] <Laney> xnox or mitya57 AFAIK
[11:09] <acheronuk> I want to confirm this is saying 'Chinese' in Russian https://i.imgur.com/lM4DpnD.png
[11:09] <acheronuk> if it is, then I can mark a bug as a dupe
[11:27] <jibel> acheronuk, according to google translate that's what it says https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0
[11:29] <jibel> no sure how much I trust google translate though
[11:29] <acheronuk> jibel: this is what I was looking at LP: #1818174
[11:30] <acheronuk> I was 95% sure that was a dupe of LP #1817453
[11:30] <acheronuk> i.e. the chinese option is there, just in Russian!
[11:45] <mitya57> acheronuk: your screenshot is not Russian, looks like Bulgarian
[11:46] <mitya57> (everything, not just label for Chinese)
[11:54] <acheronuk> mitya57: ah. I see. Other sections are clearly in Dutch. just not in view on that screenshot
[11:56] <Laney> xnox: can I upload ubiquity?
[11:56] <Laney> I've just done a test install with a new version that's just debian/rules update
[11:57] <Laney> (well, it's actually still in progress but I think it's going to work :>)
[12:00] <Laney> jbicha: in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1817900/comments/3, did you mean 3.31.91 of g-s-d? i.e. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/1219c924d74838bec48780a07684257670a44f1e & co
[12:01] <jbicha> yes
[12:02] <Laney> nod
[12:03] <Laney> I guess just Depends: libmutter-4-dev (>= 3.31.91) ought to do it, thanks to B-D-P
[12:04] <Laney> hmm, maybe not, there's no shared library depends there
[12:08] <Laney> gnome-shell Breaks: g-s-d << 3.31.91?
[12:09] <Laney> or the other way round
[12:09]  * Laney is confuse
[12:33] <tjaalton> kenvandine: please test xserver from cosmic-proposed for bug 1754693
[12:53] <Laney> xnox: timeout, doing it
[14:17] <Laney> is the meeting in 12 minutes or 72 minutes?
[14:18] <Laney> I have both on my calendar
[14:18] <seb128> 12
[14:18] <seb128> did we start dst fun?
[14:18] <Laney> guess so
[14:18] <Laney> the Ubuntu Fridge event is wrong here
[14:30] <willcooke> Meeting time!
[14:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-03-05
[14:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar  5 14:30:31 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:30] <kenvandine> o/
[14:31] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[14:31] <jibel> hola o/
[14:31] <Trevinho> o/
[14:31] <didrocks> hey
[14:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[14:31] <andyrock> o/
[14:31] <seb128> hey
[14:32] <willcooke> jamesh, please can you add your weekly update to: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/monday-4th-march-2019/10020/13
[14:33] <willcooke> ok, I've sent round the tracking rls bugs, so lets look at any new bugs coming in and accept/decline them.  Starting with Bionic
[14:33] <willcooke> 1 new one, which isnt assigned atm
[14:33] <willcooke> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1812527
[14:34] <willcooke> Daniel tagged it
[14:34] <Trevinho> I had some ideas on fixing this in gjs for some long time
[14:34] <Trevinho> I might get it
[14:35] <seb128> the title says regression, is that a regression from a SRU in bionic?
[14:35] <seb128> if so it probably makes sense to target it
[14:35] <Trevinho> well, I expec to have still a wrong behavior before...
[14:35] <didrocks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1812527/comments/18
[14:36] <didrocks> seems like it ^
[14:36] <seb128> +1 for targetting and assigning to Trevinho
[14:36] <andyrock> +!
[14:36] <andyrock> +1
[14:36] <willcooke> Looks like quite a few people are seeing it
[14:36] <willcooke> +1 from mee
[14:37] <didrocks> andyrock: invalid cast :p but +1 as android emulator is quite common
[14:37] <willcooke> k, done,.
[14:37] <willcooke> that's it for B.  On to C....
[14:38] <willcooke> list is empty ( \o/ )
[14:38] <willcooke> On to D
[14:38] <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:38] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1818246
[14:39] <andyrock> I saw it happening in bionic too
[14:39] <andyrock> few days ago in the laptop of my gf
[14:39] <seb128> I would vote -1 to target based on the fact that we only got one report so far
[14:39] <kenvandine> tkamppeter: please look at the NM for bugs
[14:39] <seb128> andyrock, is that your fault/livepatch? ;)
[14:39] <andyrock> seb128: I don't think so :)
[14:39] <didrocks> and I just got it as we speak
[14:40] <willcooke> ha
[14:40] <andyrock> it's happening also with other apps
[14:40] <didrocks> andyrock: do you have an example? Would be easier to reproduce than this one
[14:40] <didrocks> I can have a look if we have an easy reproducer
[14:41] <andyrock> not that I can think of (but it happened to me as well and it was not update-notifier)
[14:41] <willcooke> didrocks, if you can find a reproducer, then we could update the bug and take a look again next time?
[14:41] <didrocks> willcooke: agreed, I'll at least to find a reproducer for next week
[14:41] <willcooke> thanks
[14:42] <seb128> thx didrocks
[14:42] <andyrock> in the mean-time I'll check if my gf has the new update-notifier
[14:42] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1817020
[14:42] <andyrock> fixed upstream (in gnome-shell)
[14:42] <willcooke> Thats still showing in incoming, but sounds like we have a fix
[14:42] <Laney> I just fixed the rest of the bugs in incoming
[14:43] <willcooke> ha
[14:43] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[14:43] <Laney> the tag is *rls-dd-notfixing*, not "notfixing"
[14:43] <willcooke> that's the end of the list then
[14:43] <willcooke> Not bad.
[14:43] <willcooke> Let's talk about proposed-migrations
[14:43] <willcooke> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:44] <willcooke> Laney, do you want to take us through it?
[14:44] <seb128> no review or -tracking unsassigned?
[14:44] <seb128> of
[14:44] <willcooke> there shouldnt be anything in tracking which is unassigned, right?
[14:45] <Laney> it happens if things get nominated directly
[14:45] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1750197
[14:45] <Laney> should just get assigned to duflu
[14:46] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1795135
[14:46] <Laney> 🤷
[14:46] <didrocks> lalala
[14:46] <Laney> notfixing for our team probably?
[14:46] <xnox> Laney, tah, i was in ubuntu-core lalala land and meeting.
[14:47] <seb128> invalid for xorg-server?
[14:47] <didrocks> Laney: yep
[14:47] <Laney> np
[14:47] <Laney> dunno
[14:47] <Laney> not going to triage it now
[14:47] <willcooke> that xfce one should probably be invalid
[14:47] <seb128> +1 for -notfixing
[14:47] <seb128> seems like it has been fixed/workarounded on the xfce side anyway
[14:48] <Laney> I mean there is a link to an upstream bug there (#30) so not sure, but this isn't the place to look at that
[14:48] <Laney> k
[14:48] <willcooke> yah
[14:48] <willcooke> k, moving back to proposed-migrations
[14:48] <willcooke> Laney, anything you want to raise
[14:48] <seb128> :)
[14:48] <Laney> this week I just tried making cards for things
[14:49] <Laney> https://trello.com/b/RHiGQXZJ/ubuntu-desktop-1904-cycle?menu=filter&filter=label:proposed-migration
[14:49] <Laney> so there's some that need assigning, don't think we need to discuss anything here tho
[14:49] <willcooke> cool!  thanks Laney
[14:49] <seb128> ah, nice
[14:49] <willcooke> lets work on getting them assigned later seb128
[14:49] <seb128> +1
[14:50] <willcooke> and then finally in this section, let's take a look at errors.u.c and see if there is anything we should be aware of....
[14:50] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1729963
[14:50] <willcooke> oSoMoN is already on the case
[14:51] <willcooke> A private gvfs bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/927340
[14:51] <willcooke> Which dates from 2012
[14:52] <kenvandine> wow, that's old
[14:52] <willcooke> hrm. not sure about that one, 400 something reports.  Probably not too much to worry about there
[14:53] <willcooke> The main one in that list if Plymouth, and thats now fixed.
[14:53] <willcooke> So I dont think there is much to worry about in errors
[14:53] <willcooke> I think thats the end then.
[14:53] <willcooke> Before we move to AOB, anyone got anything to add to that ^
[14:54] <willcooke> well, actually, if you have, lets talk about it afterwards
[14:54] <andyrock> we should probably fix e.u.c :)
[14:54] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[14:54] <andyrock> i need to refresh the page 10 times to make it display something
[14:54] <andyrock> :(
[14:54] <seb128> (I think we should have someone pre-review the e.u.c list before the meeting and tag rls-nn-incoming bugs)
[14:54] <tkamppeter> kenvandine, willcooke, did you see my e-mails about Trent and Avahi?
[14:54] <willcooke> seb128, +1
[14:54] <Laney> +1 for pre-review
[14:54] <tkamppeter> Seems that we can forget about the good news I presented on the first day in Malta.
[14:55] <willcooke> tkamppeter, I did.  Thats disappointing.  Lets see if he comes back with anything.
[14:55] <tkamppeter> Seems that its now back into Treent's hobby drawer and will not be done, making standard-conforming printing Ubuntu-exclusive.
[14:56] <tkamppeter> willcooke, kenvandine, could we try to ask HR (or Trent's manager) that they move some of his hours to maintainership of Avahi?
[14:56] <Laney> you might want to talk about that outside of the meeting and this channel ...
[14:57] <willcooke> tkamppeter, No, that's not appropriate.  Lets talk about it later
[14:57] <tkamppeter> Or at least can someone of you chase him somehow?
[14:57] <willcooke> any more AOB?
[14:57] <seb128> not from me
[14:57] <didrocks> nope
[14:58] <willcooke> ok, then we will wrap here
[14:58] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[14:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar  5 14:58:12 2019 UTC.
[14:58] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-03-05-14.30.moin.txt
[14:58] <willcooke> thanks all
[14:58] <andyrock> thx
[14:58] <oSoMoN> thanks
[14:58] <didrocks> thx
[14:58] <seb128> thx
[14:58] <Laney> an administrative reminder, when rls tagging bugs you need to remove rls-NN-incoming otherwise they stay on that list
[14:58] <Laney> thx for the meeting
[14:58] <Laney> less than half an hour is always a win
[14:58] <seb128> :)
[14:59] <seb128> thx for the reminder, I keep forgetting about untagging
[14:59] <Laney> the reports could probably be improved to make the other criteria win over incoming so that's not necessary
[14:59] <seb128> I should look at fixing the script to make it skip the tag if there is a matching target accepted
[14:59] <seb128> :)
[14:59] <Laney> but until that happens, need to remember
[14:59] <seb128> right
[14:59]  * seb128 adds a note to backlog
[15:02] <seb128> kenvandine, can you ask Robert to update bug #1817223 and make sure it's tracked? gnome-software new serie is blocked in proposed until that's sorted out, https://github.com/hughsie/libxmlb/pull/15 got merged upstream but that needs to land in an update and also he hinted that appstream-glib needs work as well
[15:02] <gitbot> hughsie issue (Pull request) 15 in libxmlb "Allow nesting XbBuilderSource content type handlers" [Enhancement, Closed]
[15:02] <Laney> ah didn't we convert that to an rls bug last week?
[15:03] <kenvandine> will do
[15:35] <seb128> Laney, unsure why it didn't work, maybe launchpad timeouted or something, properly targetted now
[15:36] <Laney> nice one
[15:36] <seb128> thx for pointing it out
[15:40]  * Laney goes for a super late lunch
[15:40] <willcooke> 19.10 board here:  https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910
[15:42] <seb128> Laney, enjoy!
[16:50] <kenvandine> snap parallel installs are cool :)
[16:50] <kenvandine> i can now install all the candidate and edge channels at the same time :)
[17:05] <andyrock> Laney: I'm not sure it would be easy to get that exception
[17:06] <andyrock> the problem is not reproducible with gnome-shell master because the code to trigger the deadlock is in a distro patch
[17:06] <andyrock> said that should I ask for a exception anyway? :)
[17:06] <Laney> k
[17:07] <Laney> would be nice, but up to you
[17:08] <andyrock> Laney: I'll try
[17:08] <andyrock> in a moment, working on a gnome-control-center crash right now :(
[17:37] <seb128> andyrock squashing all the bugs :)
[17:38] <andyrock> seb128: just run "gnome-control-center wifi"
[17:38] <andyrock> and then "gnome-control-center online-accounts add firefox"
[17:38] <andyrock> I've already a "fix"
[17:41] <seb128> good, we can distro patch as we update to .92 :)
[17:42] <om26er> Hi! Will Disco get GNOME 3.32 ?
[17:46] <om26er> ...assuming it gets released by 13th March :)
[17:48] <Laney> yes
[18:10] <wxl> jbicha, Laney: tsimonq2 suggested I ask you about a GTK2 issue we seem to have uncovered. bug 1782984 seems to have GTK2 as its root cause and has affected multiple GTK2 apps. those apps with GTK3 support have no such problems when used with GTK3 and not GTK2. so where do i go from here to triage this?
[18:29] <willcooke> night all
[18:50] <andyrock> EOD! night all
[23:40] <jbicha> wxl: sorry I don't have time now to investigate gtk2 issues :(
[23:42] <wxl> jbicha: i guess investigation is not so much what i'm asking for so much as suggestions on pushing upstream
[23:42] <jbicha> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues
[23:43] <jbicha> there is a template for "crash"
[23:43] <wxl> thanks
[23:45] <jbicha> sorry I couldn't be more helpful
[23:46] <wxl> it's better than nothing XD