[00:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Trusty 14.04.6] has been updated (20190304.2) [00:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop i386 [Trusty 14.04.6] has been updated (20190304.2) === RAOF is now known as Guest56578 [00:13] Hello release team! Please release xfce4-settings 4.13.4-1ubuntu2 into disco so we can begin the SRU process for cosmic :) [00:30] bluesabre: It looks like you're waiting on glibc: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#xfce4-settings [00:30] As far as I remember, we're close. [00:30] tsimonq2, aha, thanks for that :) [00:31] No problem at all. :) [00:31] bluesabre: If you haven't seen it already, I'd take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration [00:31] It Almost Always™️ explains why a package is stuck. [00:33] (Scroll up about six hours ago, Adam and Steve were talking about the remaining regressions.) [00:40] thanks again tsimonq2... I think this might be the first time I ran into a proposed blocker during during the dev cycle :D [00:42] No problem, feel free to ping me if you need any other hints (not literally, I'm not on the release team, heh). :) [03:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [amd64] (disco-proposed/main) [1.46-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core) [03:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [s390x] (disco-proposed/main) [1.46-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core) [03:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [i386] (disco-proposed/main) [1.46-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core) [03:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/main) [1.46-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core) [03:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [arm64] (disco-proposed/main) [1.46-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core) [03:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [armhf] (disco-proposed/main) [1.46-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core) [06:52] bluesabre: For what it's worth, the SRU process does not require that it's migrated in devel before you upload to other releases. [06:52] bluesabre: Just that it's uploaded to proposed and migration is expected (ie: it's not FTBFS or causing autopkgtest regressions) [07:21] vorlon, thanks, will take a look [07:28] jibel, hi! [07:28] hey pieq [07:29] jibel, regarding i386 testing for trusty, can we use any device (even newer ones) or should we stick with older ones? [07:29] pieq, you can use any [07:31] jibel, got it, thanks! [07:55] jbicha: your ansible upload breaks at least os-faults. please fix [07:55] jamespage, coreycb: ^^^ [07:56] doko: see bug 1813600 [07:57] bug 1813600 in os-faults (Ubuntu) "[RM] os-faults" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1813600 [08:47] oSoMoN, sil2100: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/bionic/update_excuses.html should the libreoffice/i386 autopkg test regression be ignored (updating the hint), or fixed? [08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted initramfs-tools-devices [amd64] (disco-proposed) [0.3] [08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [arm64] (disco-proposed) [1.46-0ubuntu1] [08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [i386] (disco-proposed) [1.46-0ubuntu1] [08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [s390x] (disco-proposed) [1.46-0ubuntu1] [08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.46-0ubuntu1] [08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [1.46-0ubuntu1] [08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [armhf] (disco-proposed) [1.46-0ubuntu1] [08:49] doko, it was run against the wrong version of openjdk-11 [08:49] (10.0.2+13-1ubuntu0.18.04.4) [08:49] I retried it [08:50] sil2100 can you reject the systemd uploads to b/c, so can reupload with corrected changelog [09:00] vorlon: very nice, I had just been quietly using / developing it in a minor way myself & had given up on getting it merged [09:02] actually yesterday doko was pinging me about a bug in it and I fixed that (possibly) :> [09:21] doko: i was about to upload https://launchpad.net/~ginggs/+archive/ubuntu/sru/+sourcepub/9948222/+listing-archive-extra once the tests finish [09:22] ginggs: ouch [09:22] monotone was removed from disco a few hours ago [09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base amd64 [Trusty 14.04.6] (20190305) has been added [09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base arm64 [Trusty 14.04.6] (20190305) has been added [09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base armhf [Trusty 14.04.6] (20190305) has been added [09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base i386 [Trusty 14.04.6] (20190305) has been added [09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base powerpc [Trusty 14.04.6] (20190305) has been added [09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base ppc64el [Trusty 14.04.6] (20190305) has been added [09:51] infinity, oh, right on :) [09:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: open-vm-tools (bionic-proposed/main) [2:10.3.0-0ubuntu1~18.04.3 => 2:10.3.5-7~ubuntu0.18.04.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server) [09:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: open-vm-tools (cosmic-proposed/main) [2:10.3.0-0ubuntu3 => 2:10.3.5-7~ubuntu0.18.10.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server) [10:12] jamespage: juergh: I tried to link our old bug 1736390 to your recent mail to OVS "openvswitch crash on i386" [10:12] bug 1736390 in linux (Ubuntu Cosmic) "openvswitch: kernel oops destroying interfaces on i386" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1736390 === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [10:13] juergh: they really seem to be the same thing to me [10:13] juergh: thanks for picking it up again [10:23] Laney: heeeeeey, you have access to snakefruit, right? [10:25] * Laney snakes towards sil2100 [10:25] yeah, what do you need? [10:26] Laney: I'd need an archive snapshotty done for 14.04.6 ;) [10:27] Laney: I guess that would be something like `point-release-snapshot trusty trusty.6-security-updates-snapshot`, right? [10:27] oh gosh [10:27] I've never done that before [10:27] I can see the xenial command that someone used ... [10:28] Yeah, do the same just with s/xenial/trusty/, the xenial one was ran by vorlon and infinity so they had to know what they were doing [10:28] ;) [10:29] Not sure how long it takes [10:29] So possibly do it in a screen session [10:29] ok I read the script, seems simple enough [10:31] done [10:31] it only copies dists/ of security & updates, so takes no time [10:33] ginggs: do you want continue with merucrial, or should I? [10:41] Laney: thanks o/ [10:55] doko: can you back out version 4-9.2ubuntu1 ? [11:02] ginggs, remove it from -proposed? [11:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected systemd [source] (bionic-proposed) [237-3ubuntu10.15] [11:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected systemd [source] (cosmic-proposed) [239-7ubuntu10.10] [11:11] doko: will that allow me to upload 4.8.2-1ubuntu3 ? [11:16] ginggs, yes [11:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (cosmic-proposed/main) [239-7ubuntu10.9 => 239-7ubuntu10.10] (core) [11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (bionic-proposed/main) [237-3ubuntu10.14 => 237-3ubuntu10.15] (core) [11:20] apw: ok, will you please do that, then i'll upload [11:21] ginggs, from where, and "why" for the logs [11:24] apw: 4-9.2ubuntu1 from disco-proposed - new version breaks hg-git [11:24] ginggs, and you have confirmed nothing is built with it ... [11:25] apw: hmm, how do i do that? [11:26] ginggs, look at the reverse-depends and see if any of them is in -propsoed as a first step [11:28] apw: i don't see any of the reverse-build-dependencies in -proposed [11:29] ginggs, then we are probabally ok [11:30] ok gone [11:31] apw: ta! [12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: netbeans (bionic-proposed/universe) [10.0-2~18.04 => 10.0-3~18.04.1] (no packageset) (sync) [12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libjavaewah-java (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.6.12-2 => 0.7.9-1~18.04.1] (no packageset) (sync) [12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libjogl2-java (bionic-proposed/universe) [2.3.2+dfsg-7 => 2.3.2+dfsg-8~18.04] (no packageset) (sync) [12:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: scilab (bionic-proposed/universe) [6.0.1-1ubuntu1 => 6.0.1-7~18.04] (no packageset) (sync) === yiko is now known as yikoru [12:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted netbeans [sync] (bionic-proposed) [10.0-3~18.04.1] [12:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libjavaewah-java [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.7.9-1~18.04.1] [12:38] apw: based on my ppa test earlier, we are going to need 'force-badtest mercurial/4.8.2-1ubuntu3/arm64' [12:39] apw: and p.itti's 'force-badtest mercurial/all/armhf' can probably be dropped (or at least made more specific) [12:39] ginggs, always going to need some background to do that [12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libjogl2-java [sync] (bionic-proposed) [2.3.2+dfsg-8~18.04] [12:40] apw: we already have a hint for 4.8.2-1ubuntu2, so it's just bumping that [12:41] ginggs, ok [12:43] and it has been passing on armhf lately, although somewhat flaky [12:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted scilab [sync] (bionic-proposed) [6.0.1-7~18.04] [13:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: wslu (disco-proposed/primary) [1.9+dfsg1-0ubuntu1] [13:20] ^ i'm looking for a friendly archive admin here :-) [14:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wslu [source] (disco-proposed) [1.9+dfsg1-0ubuntu1] [14:13] rbalint: NEWED ^ [14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wslu [amd64] (disco-proposed/none) [1.9+dfsg1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) [14:18] didrocks, thanks! [14:19] rbalint: yw, I'll binNEW in a moment [14:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wslu [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.9+dfsg1-0ubuntu1] [14:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted systemd [source] (cosmic-proposed) [239-7ubuntu10.10] [14:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libxkbcommon (bionic-proposed/main) [0.8.0-1ubuntu0.1 => 0.8.2-1~ubuntu18.04.1] (core, xorg) [14:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted systemd [source] (bionic-proposed) [237-3ubuntu10.15] [14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libxkbcommon [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.8.2-1~ubuntu18.04.1] [14:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libxkbcommon (bionic-proposed/main) [0.8.0-1ubuntu0.1 => 0.8.2-1~ubuntu18.04.1] (core, xorg) [14:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gluegen2 (bionic-proposed/universe) [2.3.2-6 => 2.3.2-7~18.04] (no packageset) (sync) [14:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gluegen2 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [2.3.2-7~18.04] [14:55] * Laney fist bumps juliank [14:55] just used ADT_PACKAGE for the first time [14:55] this wins [14:55] :) [14:55] Laney: I've used it a few times already, as did other(s?) [14:55] it's actualy surprisingly fast [14:55] -u filtering was quite slow on there [14:55] Laney: I think it's doing an indexed search [14:56] Laney: You can also ask it journalctl -F ADT_PACKAGE and it would show you all values it has seen [14:57] that's nice [15:16] LocutusOfBorg: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/413357077/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.virtualbox-hwe_5.2.18-dfsg-3~ubuntu18.04.2_BUILDING.txt.gz this needs an update for openjdk-11 [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-debian-helper (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.5~18.04] [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-jdt-debug (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-2~18.04] [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-platform-debug (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-jdt-core (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-platform-resources (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: eclipse-emf (bionic-proposed/universe) [2.8.3-2 => 2.16.0-1~18.04] (no packageset) (sync) [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-jdt-ui (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ecj (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.13.3-1 => 3.16.0-1~18.04] (kubuntu) (sync) [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-platform-runtime (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-platform-text (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-platform-ui (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: equinox-bundles (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: equinox-p2 (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-platform-team (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: el-api (bionic-proposed/primary) [3.0.0-2~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: jetty9 (bionic-proposed/universe) [9.2.23-1 => 9.4.15-1~18.04] (no packageset) (sync) [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: eclipse-platform-ua (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: equinox-framework (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.10-1~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: jsp-api (bionic-proposed/primary) [2.3.4-2~18.04] [15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: tomcat9 (bionic-proposed/primary) [9.0.16-3~18.04] [15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: servlet-api (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.0.1-2~18.04] [15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: websocket-api (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.1-1~18.04] [15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: swt4-gtk (bionic-proposed/universe) [4.6.3-2 => 4.10.0-3~18.04] (no packageset) (sync) [15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tomcat8 (bionic-proposed/universe) [8.5.30-1ubuntu1.4 => 8.5.38-2ubuntu1~18.04] (kubuntu) (sync) [15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tomcat-native (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.2.16-1build1 => 1.2.21-1~18.04] (no packageset) (sync) [15:41] Laney, infinity, vorlon: is there a possibility to generate an update_excuses.txt for bionic, as if the global block request would not exist? [15:48] doko: the long term plan is to have sru-release drive britney hints instead of doing copies directly; so if you're asking because you're interested in uninstallability problems, that's a more comprehensive solution [15:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ecj [sync] (bionic-proposed) [3.16.0-1~18.04] [15:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted eclipse-emf [sync] (bionic-proposed) [2.16.0-1~18.04] [15:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted jetty9 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [9.4.15-1~18.04] [15:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted swt4-gtk [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10.0-3~18.04] [15:58] vorlon: I just want to know if all the openjdk stuff would migrate [15:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tomcat-native [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.2.21-1~18.04] [16:00] doko: well, I can set unblock hints for the regular britney; let me try that [16:01] vorlon: but don't let it migrate by accident ... [16:01] doko: the britney instance isn't currently set up to write to lp [16:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tomcat8 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [8.5.38-2ubuntu1~18.04] [16:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-debian-helper [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.5~18.04] [16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-jdt-core [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-jdt-debug [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-2~18.04] [16:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-jdt-ui [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-platform-debug [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-platform-resources [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-platform-runtime [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-platform-team [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-platform-text [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-platform-ua [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted eclipse-platform-ui [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted el-api [sync] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.0-2~18.04] [16:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted equinox-bundles [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted equinox-framework [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted equinox-p2 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.10-1~18.04] [16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted jsp-api [sync] (bionic-proposed) [2.3.4-2~18.04] [16:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted servlet-api [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.0.1-2~18.04] [17:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tomcat9 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [9.0.16-3~18.04] [17:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted websocket-api [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.1-1~18.04] [17:03] bdmurray: Hi, I've uploaded a curtin SRU that has a couple field critical bugs that need to get SRU'ed and I was wondering if you could take a look to get curtin into -proposed [17:05] rharper: for which release of Ubuntu? [17:05] Cosmic, Bionic and Xenial [17:08] rharper: sure [17:08] bdmurray: thanks! [17:16] rharper: bug 1811117 is missing SRU information [17:16] bug 1811117 in curtin "Failed deployment: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/sys/class/block/bcache0/bcache0p1/slaves'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811117 [17:17] looking [17:17] rharper: actually all the bugs are except for the "new upstream release" one [17:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/+source/curtin/+bug/1817964 [17:17] Ubuntu bug 1817964 in curtin (Ubuntu Cosmic) "sru curtin 2019-02-27 - 18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] [17:17] curtin uses a single SRU bug, sorry [17:18] rharper: then the other bugs shouldn't be included in Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed. [17:24] bdmurray: hrm, I think it's just cosmic that's got it wrong [17:25] this was the first SRU into cosmic, so I've missed something in that source package build [17:27] bdmurray: I suspect I'll need a new upload into cosmic to fix; does the current unapproved package in cosmic queue need to be removed ? [17:27] rharper: okay, no you could reupload the same version with -f [17:27] oh, good [17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected curtin [source] (cosmic-proposed) [18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1~18.10.1] [17:41] would someone please kick the can along? 'force-badtest mercurial/4.8.2-1ubuntu3/arm64' [17:53] ginggs: done [17:54] vorlon: ta! there's a 'force-badtest mercurial/all/armhf' in p.itti's hints - maybe this can be removed now? [17:55] ginggs: looks like it - also done [17:55] thanks again! [18:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (cosmic-proposed/main) [18.1-59-g0f993084-0ubuntu1 => 18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1~18.10.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server) [18:08] bdmurray: ok, I fixed the changelog in the cosmic package and just uploaded again; thank you for the review and help [18:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted curtin [source] (cosmic-proposed) [18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1~18.10.1] [18:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted curtin [source] (bionic-proposed) [18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] [18:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted curtin [source] (xenial-proposed) [18.2-10-g7afd77fa-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] [18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted numactl [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2.0.11-2.2ubuntu0.1] [18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted numactl [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.0.11-2.1ubuntu0.1] [18:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtwebengine-opensource-src [source] (cosmic-proposed) [5.11.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1] [18:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-eventlet [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.20.0-5ubuntu0.18.10.1] [19:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-eventlet [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.20.0-4ubuntu0.18.04.1] [19:12] Is there any chance I can bug anyone about bug 1818373? We need this in Ubuntu Studio so some packages can get updated that depend on it. [19:12] bug 1818373 in ubuntustudio-meta "[FFe] grub2-themes-ubuntustudio" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818373 [19:16] Also bug 1818366 needs an FFe. [19:16] bug 1818366 in Ubuntu Studio "[FFe] Carla: Please Upload to Universe" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818366 [19:29] infinity: postgriopython-hll? [19:30] vorlon: Err, can I really not copy/paste? [19:30] infinity: no, that was me asking a question [19:30] Oh. [19:30] perhaps my question raced your answer [19:30] python thingee was fixed yesterday, psql thingee, I've determined that if it is a precision issue, I can't figure out how, and punted to an upstream git ticket and hinted. [19:31] glibc's just waiting on a snapd-glib test to do a thing now, it seems. [19:31] ok [19:31] how long's it been waiting for that? [19:31] that's a completely new test [19:31] Dunno, I only just noticed it. [19:31] can we just skiptest and be done? [19:31] Could do. [19:31] Be my guest. [19:32] I'll be chasing it with a new glibc in a day or two anyway (once I stop puzzling over this new container test infra thing), so that test will get its day in court. [19:33] infinity: hint added [19:33] May god have mercy on our souls. [19:34] Eickmeyer: so, I'm taking a look at the FFe requests now, but I'm more bothered by the meta question of why there are still no ubuntustudio team members with upload rights [19:36] vorlon: Because there are only 3 of us active. I'm new in the past year, OvenWerks has been told he doesn't have enough packaging experience, and Rosco2, while he does have Debian rights, also has been told he doesn't have enough packaging experience in Ubuntu. I'm going to try to apply after the 19.04 release. [19:36] Eickmeyer: "doesn't have enough packaging experience in Ubuntu" - can you please give me a pointer to this discussion? [19:36] Anyone with upload rights didn't hand-off the project properly. [19:37] vorlon: I cannot, it's anecdotal from OvenWerks. [19:40] Also, I need to speak with Rosco2 more about this. [19:43] Eickmeyer: so, with my TB hat on I raised the point directly to the DMB over 2 years ago that it was a problem for there to not be any uploaders for ubuntustudio, in reference to Rosco2's application; I am dismayed to learn there has apparently been no progress [19:44] vorlon: I agree. Since joining the team and being the figurehead, it has been frustrating every 6 months to run into this same brick wall. [19:45] We /might/ get sakrecoer back in the summer. [19:47] But that's no guarantee. [19:48] This isn't a point for or against anyone in particular but it's noteworthy that when Ubuntu Studio was revived after the hiatus, they didn't have to go through a flavor reapplication process with the TB. The TB would have caught this. [19:48] tsimonq2: when was the hiatus? [19:48] tsimonq2: Was Ubuntu Studio ever officially dropped? [19:49] I really think it's improper to have a flavor that has no uploaders. I think this needs to be fixed before 19.04 releases (which effectively means, before beta) [19:50] Then how do we fix it? [19:50] Eickmeyer: who of the current ubuntustudio members has recently (re)applied for uploader rights? [19:50] I have an action item with the DMB to standardize the Lubuntu Developer qualification requirements, so that can lead you in the right direction: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/lubuntu-dev/ [19:50] I have offered to mentor Eickmeyer if needed. [19:51] vorlon: I don't recall specifics but ~ 16.04 iirc [19:51] vorlon: I don't know. Nobody in the past year that I know of. [19:51] Er, 18.04 [19:51] Recently there was a hiatus before Eickmeyer showed up. [19:51] tsimonq2: I joined just before 18.04 released and acted as release manager. [19:51] I've been with the project for a year now. [19:52] Eickmeyer: Wasn't 18.04 non-LTS from your side? [19:52] tsimonq2: Yes, and that was our decision. [19:52] vorlon: ^ pre-Eickmeyer was the hiatus time. [19:54] sakrecoer dropped after 16.10, and Rosco2 acted as release manager for 17.04 and 17.10. [19:54] 17.04, 17.10, and 18.04 were all really just maintenance releases. [19:54] Eickmeyer: right, so it needs to be a priority on the part of the ubuntustudio devs to be applying for upload rights; it needs to be a priority of the DMB to work out what upload rights can reasonably be granted to an ubuntustudio packageset to allow the maintenance to continue; and it needs to be a priority for the TB to be prepared to revoke the flavor status if there's no movement on this [19:54] Rosco2 is a DD, what does his Ubuntu uploading story look like? [19:55] vorlon: +1, would you like me to bring it up to the DMB? [19:55] tsimonq2: I will be doing so :) [19:55] Sounds good. [19:56] tsimonq2: you joined the DMB too late to have my previous mails on the subject in your mailbox ;P [19:56] vorlon: I can dig through the archives though. :P [19:56] tsimonq2: October 2016 [19:56] ack, thanks. [19:57] Excellent. Is there any way I can attend this meeting? [19:57] somewhere there is a calendar that says when the DMB irc meetings are :) [19:57] I was just going to send mail (and cc y'all) [19:57] Excellent. eeickmeyer@ubuntu in my case. [19:59] fwiw there already is an ubuntustudio packageset. [20:01] vorlon: So my understanding from reading the thread is that the DMB has yet to evaluate this. Am I correct? [20:01] Er, wait. [20:02] tsimonq2: I don't know anything beyond that thread since I'm not privy to dmb private discussions [20:02] Yeah, one member's email about needing sponsors and such is accurate. [20:02] vorlon: No further discussion took place privately on that thread. [20:03] I had hoped that the DMB would revisit the question of Rosco2's upload status in light of the impact on flavor status but I don't know whether or not that was actually doen [20:03] From what I can tell, it wasn't. [20:05] Eickmeyer: regarding LP: #1818373 and LP: #1818366, were you actually told by a would-be sponsor that you needed to file an FFe? I wouldn't have considered an FFe necessary for either of these [20:05] Launchpad bug 1818373 in grub2-themes-ubuntustudio "[FFe] grub2-themes-ubuntustudio" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818373 [20:05] Launchpad bug 1818366 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Carla: Please Upload to Universe" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818366 [20:05] (of course, ppu rights also don't really help with new packages...) [20:06] vorlon: Only really Carla, since slangasek just trivially approved and said it falled under UIFe. Also, the wiki entry on the FFe subject implied that any new packages required an FFe after FF. [20:06] slangasek = vorlon ;) [20:06] OOOOhhhhh! [20:06] haha [20:07] New nick or just an additional one? [20:07] old nick reborn [20:07] Nice. [20:07] also it now matches the launchpad id [20:07] juliank: Is bug 1814727 fixed in Disco? the tasks don't reflect that [20:07] bug 1814727 in apt (Ubuntu Disco) "Backport never pinning and Packages-Require-Authorization" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814727 [20:07] Makes sense. I'd have to add an E to make it match. Name is hard enough as it is, so meh. [20:08] eh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess doesn't so much imply as outright state that you have to get release signoff on new packages [20:08] but that hasn't been true for a very, very long time [20:09] Good to know. [20:13] Since Rosco2 wasn't in this chat, I went ahead and forwarded him a copy-paste via email, so he knows what's going on. [20:14] Also, OvenWerks has been having family issues lately (death in the family), so he's been somewhat (understandably) absent as of late. [20:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted packagekit [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.1.10-1ubuntu7.1] [20:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted packagekit [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.9-1ubuntu2.18.04.5] [20:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (disco-proposed/main) [5.0.0-7.8] (core, kernel) [20:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (disco-proposed/main) [5.0.0-7.8] (core, kernel) [20:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [arm64] (disco-proposed/main) [5.0.0-7.8] (core, kernel) [20:34] bdmurray: yes, not sure what I did with the tasks [20:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted opencryptoki [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.10.0+dfsg-0ubuntu1.1] [20:55] juliank: okay, I'll have a look at it again in a bit [21:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected chromium-browser [source] (cosmic-proposed) [72.0.3626.119-0ubuntu0.18.10.1] [21:19] bdmurray: if you're like a bit bored, it would be great if you could accept the apt SRUs :-) [21:19] ugh, me is confused [21:19] that's what we've been talking about [21:20] that's what I get for writing at 22:20 ... [21:47] doko: glibc looks fine, but the britney autohinter is getting things wrong so I'm manually hinting [21:49] doko: well, in fact infinity also added a hint, so one or the other of our hints should DTRT ;) [21:54] vorlon: Oh look, my easy hint worked. glibc migrated. [21:55] vorlon: You were too late. :P [21:56] * infinity drops both hints. [21:58] :) [22:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apt [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.7.3] [22:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apt [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.6.9] [22:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd-glib (cosmic-proposed/main) [1.44-1 => 1.46-0ubuntu0.18.10.0] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop) [22:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apt [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.2.30] [22:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lmdb (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.9.22-1 => 0.9.22-1ubuntu0.1] (kubuntu) [22:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apt [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.0.1ubuntu2.21] [22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (disco-proposed) [5.0.0-7.8] [22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [ppc64el] (disco-proposed) [5.0.0-7.8] [22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [arm64] (disco-proposed) [5.0.0-7.8] [22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lmdb [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.9.22-1ubuntu1~cosmic18.10] [22:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lmdb [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.9.21-1ubuntu2~bionic18.04] [22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lmdb (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.9.21-1 => 0.9.21-1ubuntu0.1] (kubuntu) [22:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-hibinit-agent [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu4~18.10.0] [22:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-hibinit-agent [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu4~18.04.0] [22:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-hibinit-agent [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu4~16.04.0] [23:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ec2-hibinit-agent [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu4~14.04.0] [23:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lmdb [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.9.22-1ubuntu0.1] [23:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lmdb [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.9.21-1ubuntu0.1]