[00:00] <adikwok> hello. please help. i am using ubuntu 18.04.02. and changed to lxde. how to get lxde ram to 200mb+? now i got 540mb at the start up.
[00:01] <adikwok> several days ago, my ram used is around 300mb at starup, but now its 540mb+
[00:04] <OerHeks> maybe some update mechanism is running..
[00:05] <OerHeks> i hope you installed more than 512 mb
[00:05] <adikwok> OerHeks: how to make it lean again?
[00:06] <adikwok> several days ago, i had around 260-300+ and its awesome. since my ram is only 2gb.
[00:15] <tona> hello
[00:17] <tona> apt cache show . works in ubuntu 16.04 but not under ubuntu 18.10 how could i know all the packages , I would like to see this structure like 16.04 Package: accountsservice Version: 0.6.45-1ubuntu1 Priority: standard Section: gnome Origin: Ubuntu
[00:21] <OerHeks> that changed to apt show <package> i guess
[00:21] <tona> but how could i show all the packages
[00:23] <OerHeks> apt list
[00:23] <OerHeks> or apt list --installed
[00:24] <OerHeks> https://itsfoss.com/list-installed-packages-ubuntu/
[00:26] <OerHeks> also https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/
[00:29] <tona> is there one output similar apt cache show . in ubuntu 18.10
[01:08] <gdi2k> confused about spotify via snap. in trying to fix multimedia keys, I've tried to remove and reinstall it. I've done a sudo snap remove spotify, and it says it is removed, but I can still run spotify from the command line successfully and I still see a spotify directory in my ~/snap directory. How can I remove it properly?
[01:10] <gdi2k> ah, spotify-client is also installed via apt. what a mess
[01:14] <brimonk> This might not be the best place to ask, but I got a new monitor that uses Display Port, and I'm having issues with it waking up when booting. I've read that I might need to patch my nvidia card's UEFI, but I'm not certain if I really need to. Can anyone help?
[01:14] <brimonk> I currently have a GTX 970 on Ubuntu 18.04.
[01:18] <AngelKde> hi all I would like to ask if for the moment and more powerful ubuntu 16.04 or 18.04?
[01:49] <texla> Ubuntu 18.04 How to have different wallpaper on each workspace I am currently working with 2 workspaces when I change either the other one changes also
[01:53] <yvyz> texla: sudo apt install compiz-plugins compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:54] <yvyz> Actually texla you can do it simpler
[01:54] <yvyz> In 18 you just go to the workspace you want, right click -> Desktop Settings -> Select the image you want and -> Unselect Apply to all workspaces
[01:54] <yvyz> brimonk: Hey
[01:55] <brimonk> yvyz: Hey.
[01:55] <yvyz> brimonk: What is the default bootable VGA PCI Slot in your UEFI/BIOS/
[01:55] <yvyz> and brimonk are you using HDMI and DP from the same video card?
[01:55] <brimonk> yvyz: Um. Probably the one my graphics card is in.
[01:56] <brimonk> I'm just using DP.
[01:56] <brimonk> Background, I got a new 144hz monitor. I used to use a DVI cable, but it wasn't good enough for the high refresh rate.
[01:56] <Industrial> WHy are packages like discordapp.com not available on the ubuntu repositories?
[01:56] <yvyz> brimonk: what does the command-> lsb_release -a :: say?
[01:56] <brimonk> Replaced the cable and the 144hz happened; however, the display can't wake up from sleep.
[01:56] <yvyz> brimonk: what does the command-> lsb_release -a
[01:56] <Industrial> They have a .deb on their website for years, but I can't just "apt install discord" ..
[01:57] <brimonk> "No LSB modules are available."
[01:57] <yvyz> Industrial: not all software gets rolled into the default or available packes. Plus, the discord installation .rpm is downloadable will install automagically through ubuntu's package manager.
[01:58] <yvyz> brimonk: lsb_relase -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:58] <Industrial> Yes, but why isn't it available by commandline install? Is there any reason for it besides politics?
[01:58] <Industrial> technically it's very feasible, right?
[01:58] <Industrial> they have a .deb .. just include it ?
[01:58] <brimonk> https://termbin.com/efbc
[01:59] <yvyz> Industrial: Sure, but if you did a sudo apt-get update, you'd see there IS a discord app in the repo.
[01:59] <yvyz> Industrial: the ubuntu team probably did not find the current one from discord official to be stable. and ubuntu will not include things they believe to be unstable.
[02:00] <yvyz> brimonk: Hmm. Im running DP and HDMI on that same release.
[02:00] <yvyz> brimonk: ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:00] <fleabeard> Industrial, their official .deb is great, if you like it crashing when trying to do simple things like change your avatar. Which is probably why the ubuntu team doesn't include it by default.
[02:01] <brimonk> https://termbin.com/u3f1
[02:01] <Industrial> fleabeard, yvyz; I see. THat's a perfectly fine reason :-)
[02:01] <yvyz> brimonk: what does ubuntu-drivers autoinstall do?
[02:02] <yvyz> Industrial: welcome to linux. Where everyones running their own races and nobody cares about eachother.
[02:02] <brimonk> yvyz: I'll test it after my game of csgo.
[02:02] <yvyz> Except for linus... i think we'd all fall apart of it wasn't for that guy.
[02:03] <Industrial> I mostly dont like the downstream-patches-your-stuff things :( wish it would get fixed upstream and distributed across all platforms
[02:04] <yvyz> Industrial: a core distrib like debian is less worried about your favorite team chat software and more interested in verifying there kernel selection plays well with their idea what a distro should include.
[02:05] <yvyz> Industrial: and further linux, itself, doesn't give a d**n, period. full stop.
[02:27] <h3lpm3> Does ubuntu block incoming connections by default?
[02:27] <amosbird> has anyone ever encountered a "guioption: s" string suddenly appears in the clilpboard?
[02:28] <OerHeks> h3lpm3, basicly no, as there are no rules set for UFW, install Gufw and turn it on
[02:29] <ryuo> h3lpm3: no, for good reason. the firewall needs to be configured to be effective, and it might prevent initial access to do such setup.
[02:38] <leonardus> is `apt purge` the same as `apt remove --purge`?
[02:46] <graudre> hi all, is 5.6 available on ubuntu 18.04? even through unofficial sources
[02:48] <graudre> mysql-client-5.6 **
[03:03] <yvyz> leonardus: yes.
[03:04] <yvyz> graudre: Is there a reason, by chance, you want to one minor version version back from current?
[03:05] <yvyz> graudre: but to answer you question, yes, you can probably find the :ppa for it, or download and install it directly from the mysql team.
[03:05] <yvyz> graudre: no reason you couldn't.
[03:09] <graudre> yvyz: just so we can get on bionic without making code changes. 5.6 and 5.7 are imcompatible afaict
[03:10] <yvyz> ok
[03:12] <OerHeks> there is no logical reason for 5.6, you will need to build it against systemD https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/mysql-5.6
[03:13] <yvyz> graudre: I think you can use mysql-apt-config to select the version you want
[03:13] <yvyz> Or what OerHeks, he knows more on this one.
[03:14] <graudre> oh dang, yeah I guess that makes sense...
[03:15] <eSoul> If I had a problem with the update of gnome-shell that came down the pike to 18.10 today, should I talk about that here or with the gnome-shell people
[03:16] <graudre> yeah mysql-apt-config doesn't have 5.6 available
[03:16] <yvyz> eSoul: Here is OK, depending on what the issue is. Whats going on?
[03:16] <OerHeks> 5.4 i guess, trusty?
[03:16] <graudre> 5.7 and 8.0. I'm on bionic
[03:16] <OerHeks> hi eSoul, if it concerns ubuntu
[03:17] <eSoul> The update to gnome-shell today (maybe a couple days ago) broke the gnome-shell-extension-multi-monitors plugin (also available in apt)
[03:18] <eSoul> It looks like a CONST that was defined in the previous version of gnome-shell was not present in the update today.
[03:19] <eSoul> Trying to go into my bash_history to see what I had to end up changing
[03:22] <eSoul> WorkspaceThumbnail.OVERRIDE_SCHEMA was not defined in gnome-shell after the update
[03:24] <eSoul> But I was able to find in another file online that in js/ui/workspacesView.js it should be set to 'org.gnome.shell.overrides'
[03:25] <eSoul> Sorry for the spam though
[03:30] <brimonk> yvyz: I did a "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" and it didn't install anything.
[04:38] <coolchris> im getting tired of ubuntu againj thinking about rm -rf / ing again
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> coolchris: please dont paste commands here like that
[04:39] <coolchris> i didn't paste it i typed it
[04:39] <coolchris> dumb ass
[04:39] <coolchris> sorry im in a bad mood
[04:40] <coolchris> yea some stupid  noob might type it sorry i won't do it agian
[04:41] <coolchris> i reallly do it though when i get upset sometimes
[04:41] <coolchris> thne i have to fix
[04:42] <coolchris> this is boring no one is talking i said sorry
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> coolchris: this channel is about ubuntu support, other chat belong elsewhere
[04:42] <coolchris> ok
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !ot | coolchris for example
[04:42] <coolchris> ok
[04:52] <grkblood13> can you change the depth of an open window via the command line?
[04:52] <grkblood13> i want to keep a certain window always on the top
[05:16] <tomreyn> grkblood13: you may want to ask this on a gnome (assuning this is what you're using) specific channel. it might be too specific for people around here to know.
[06:53] <van777> Great! Ace Stream Player for "superpomoyka torrent tv" works even faster than on Win
[07:20] <nikolam> WHY (oh why) (x)Ubuntu won't BOOT if there is no device , that is stated inside /etc/fstab ??????
[07:22] <ducasse> grkblood13: you can try wmctrl
[07:22] <nikolam> I use ZFS VOLUME (zfs pool on one SATA drive) to mount it as BTRFS block device . And if SATA drive/ZFS pool is physically not there (zfs volume block device is not there), then whole SYSTEM WON'T BOOT
[07:23] <nikolam> When I remove/ # line for mounting that Btrfs block device from /etc/fstab, systme boots just fine
[07:23] <nikolam> So it's not about removing device or block device. It is about Ubuntu WON't BOOT if there is no block device for BTRFS in /etc/fstab!
[07:23] <ducasse> nikolam: add 'nofail' to the mount options
[07:24] <nikolam> ducasse, yes, why would system FAIL by default if there is no some block device/file system...   But thanks ducasse
[07:26] <nikolam> It is by default wrong. Why not booting the system and halting is if ONE of the devices in /etc/fstab won't boot ???
[07:26] <nikolam> And that device does NOT affect boot process...???
[07:29] <nikolam> Enough stupid is that I needed to add "defgraded" to mount 2 RAID1 BTRFS devices, so that system won't fail to boot if one of the devices is not available (Then WHY I use RAID1, if it won't boot by default, if other device is not available???)
[07:30] <nikolam> Everything is created so it ,nicely, fails to boot for whatever reason, if not specially explainted, manually in /etc/fstab.  Whant's this, 1995?
[07:31] <nikolam> Maybe I am spioled by ZFS that does not matter where drives are connected and IF they are connected, by DEFAULT it works... (and WITHOUT Linux config files...)
[07:32] <nikolam> Thank Linus, that if swap device is not there it can still boot...
[07:37] <maxrazer> Does the Clementine music player tray icon not restore the window for anyone else? This doesn't seem right. I don't remember this happening on other distros. I'm using Xubuntu.
[07:52] <Rembo> hello, does one of the following patches require restart? https://pastebin.com/HSFTBS5J
[07:53] <lawnmowerman> hello
[07:53] <Rembo> ?
[07:54] <lawnmowerman> i was wondering, with the fdisk command i am able to partition mounted hard drives, does this work for parted aswell?
[07:54] <lawnmowerman> i cant find anything on the internet about it
[07:58] <tomreyn> Rembo: why don't you just install them, then you'll know
[07:58] <tomreyn> it's not like this would stop anything from working
[08:00] <tomreyn> lawnmowerman: i don't see why not. is it a good idea to do so? probably not, unless you know exactly what the risks are / what this means.
[08:01] <lawnmowerman> i want to try and expand my rootdrive, it gives me alot of errors
[08:02] <lawnmowerman> the machine needs to be powered on, dont worry it is a test machine
[08:02] <tomreyn> lawnmowerman: using the term "rootdrive" makes me think you should really do it from a live system only.
[08:02] <tomreyn> after you created backups.
[08:03] <lawnmowerman> allright
[08:03] <lawnmowerman> i can do it with fdisk however not with parted
[08:03] <lawnmowerman> oh to specify, i am using an lvm filesystem
[08:04] <tomreyn> i consider myself to be somewhat xperienced with linux / ubuntu (use it for some years), and would (almost) never edit th epartition table of a running system.
[08:06] <tomreyn> lvm is not a file system, there is no "root" disk
[08:06] <lawnmowerman> oh, yes i know the dangers but this is a very specific thing i want to do
[08:06] <ducasse> +1 on what tomreyn says, especially if it involves the root fs
[08:06] <lawnmowerman> allright, sorry. i want to expand sda which contains my os in a lvm
[08:07] <tomreyn> lawnmowerman: why can't you do it from a live system?
[08:07] <nikolam> lawnmowerman, well, try to use gparted I just expanded partition on working BTRFS mirror the other day with gparted and then expanded it with BTRFS command, while system were running
[08:08] <lawnmowerman> thanks nikolan i'll look into it
[08:08] <lawnmowerman> i want to keep my system running, just for the challenge
[08:08] <tomreyn> i meant to ask: why can't you do it from a install/live iso
[08:08] <lawnmowerman> tomreyn ^
[08:08] <tomreyn> i see
[08:08] <tomreyn> well, good luck!
[08:08] <lawnmowerman> but ill look into gparted thanks for help
[08:09] <lawnmowerman> have a good day people
[08:09] <nikolam> I needed to do that on both devices in RAID1 on Btrfs, to make it use more space, after partitiones are enlarged
[08:09] <mojtaba> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, and yesterday from GUI, I set to suspend computer after 30 min on battery. But now there is no wireless.
[08:10] <mojtaba> I have tried several times to restart network-manager, but it does not connect to any wifi.
[08:10] <mojtaba> Although it shows all the SSIDs, do you know what should I do?
[08:10] <nikolam> mojtaba, set "Automatically connect when this network is available" under wireless connection settings
[08:10] <nikolam> you get them from "edit connections"
[08:11] <tomreyn> mojtaba: are you saying you think that "I set to suspend computer after 30 min on battery" and "now there is no wireless" are related?
[08:11] <mojtaba> nikolam: It has been set already.
[08:11] <nikolam> also "All users may connect to this network" if it is needed for any user to be able to be on that wireless without every user logging in and setting wireless password for him, and yes, to stay online
[08:11] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I think so, because I did not used that feature before, and I did not have any problem with wifi before.
[08:12] <mojtaba> nikolam: That one is not selected.
[08:12] <tomreyn> mojtaba: so did your computer suspend before you used it today?
[08:12] <mojtaba> tomreyn: It seems no! I was turned off.
[08:13] <mojtaba> I left it playing something on battery.
[08:13] <tomreyn> mojtaba: if you type "uptime" on a terminal, it will tell you when it last rebooted
[08:13] <mojtaba> tomreyn: 11:43:27 up 22 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.31, 0.51, 0.72
[08:14] <nikolam> Put it in Suspend afte "All users" setting, and test if it worked. Also please update to at least 18.04 LTS to be supported in the future ;P
[08:14] <mojtaba> any other idea before that?
[08:14] <tomreyn> nikolam: ubuntu 16.04 is supported for another 2 years.
[08:15] <nikolam> tomreyn, gread to know. My thinking is, 18.04 is newer and having similar requirements, maybe jumping to newer LTS is a good idea.
[08:15] <nikolam> great.
[08:16] <tomreyn> i agree it can be.
[08:16]  * nikolam rebooting
[08:17] <tomreyn> mojtaba: can you run this in a terminal and post the url it returns? nmcli c 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:18] <tomreyn> mojtaba: can you run this in a terminal and post the url it returns?   nmcli c 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:19] <tomreyn> mojtaba: it also seems like your computers' system time may be wrong, unless you're in a time zone which differs from UTC by partial hours.
[08:22] <ayekat> iran (UTC+3.5) matches
[08:23] <tomreyn> right, i just noticed the ip address points to iran
[08:37] <mojtaba> Hello
[08:38] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I found that it is a bug, but I can not find the solution. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1286552
[08:38] <gebbione> hi i book my computer and it will not send a video signal to the monitors suddenly from this morning. Usually switching off and on worked but now it is stuck. I also tried booting in recovery mode or using the previous kernel. Any suggestions?
[08:38] <gebbione> s/book/boot/
[08:40] <gebbione> i don't know what is wrong with it. Anyone has any idea what I am looking for in logs to see the error that causes this?
[08:40] <gebbione> it suddenly booted
[08:43] <tomreyn> gebbione: by "it suddenly booted", do you mean that it works properly now and you're no longer looking for assistence with this?
[08:44] <gebbione> i would still like to dig what is happening in those booting sessions if possible
[08:44] <gebbione> but i am not sure where and what I am looking for
[08:46] <tomreyn> gebbione: me neither. you could start by having a look at the warnings logged during your latest boots.
[08:46] <tomreyn> gebbione: what's the output of "lsb_release -ds"?
[08:47] <gebbione> i will join from the ubuntu machine, 1s
[08:48] <gebbione> Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
[08:48] <nanoz> hi
[08:51] <nanoz> im unable to reset my password
[08:51] <nanoz> have forgotten the password
[08:51] <nanoz> i have an root account which have password
[08:52] <nanoz> and another username which have forgot the password
[08:52] <arod> I've just installed xubuntu 18.04 on a laptop with an i5 3210M and AMD graphics. How do I switch to intel graphics?
[08:52] <arod> lspci is not listing the intel GPU but AFAIK the i5 3210M has one for sure
[08:53] <rpgio> @nanoz sudo su - ; passwd username-pw-you-forgot
[08:54] <nanoz> rpgio, i have root password not another username password who is not root
[08:54] <rpgio> so elevate to root
[08:54] <rpgio> and run 'passwd username'
[08:54] <rpgio> and set the new password for username
[08:55] <nanoz> how to elevate to root?
[08:56] <rpgio> on the command line, issue 'su - root'
[09:02] <adikwok> hello. please help. im using ubuntu 18.04.2 gnome lxde.
[09:02] <adikwok> how to make lxde start with only 200-300mb+ ram usage?
[09:02] <adikwok> mine now is around 540mb ram usage at start
[09:05] <adikwok> first i install ubuntu with gnome. since i only had 2gb ram. back then seniors told me to try lxde. then i tried lxde .. its awesome fast. .. several days ago, my ram still started at 260-360mb. but just this morning it started at 580mb ;[
[09:06] <smallville7123> Rip i
[09:06] <smallville7123> Rip u
[09:06] <smallville7123> Rip everyone
[09:09] <Ool> adikwok: perhaps you can have more information with the LXtask
[09:10] <rpgio> @adikwok if you really need a DE that's more lightweight than even lxde, you should try openbox, i3wm and the like
[09:10] <adikwok> i tried openbox, it still lxde faster
[09:10] <adikwok> Ool: i look at lxtask?
[09:11] <rpgio> use slackware
[09:11] <rpgio> for your toaster
[09:12] <Ool> adikwok:  lxtask is an app, you can monitor ressources in LXDE
[09:13] <adikwok> Ool: ok i try
[09:14] <rpgio> also: sudo systemd-analyze blame ; sudo systemd-analyze critical-chain
[09:14] <adikwok> its written firefox, thunderbird, which i am using now
[09:15] <adikwok> how to make the lxde, start with most lean apps?
[09:15] <Ool> firefox can take a lot of ressources :)
[09:15] <Ool> thunderbird too, depend of usages
[09:16] <rpgio> presumably your system isn't starting with those applications running
[09:16] <rpgio> unless you have told it to do so
[09:16] <adikwok> Ool: it is ok for those, ff, tb, libreoffice since i am using those apps for work.
[09:16] <adikwok> yet i could not make the lxde use only 300mb or so at starting up
[09:17] <Ool> adikwok: how did you now about 300 Mb ? (which command or app ? )
[09:17] <adikwok> rpgio: this what im looking for, how to choose what app to be run at starting up, so it doesnt stay at the memory at starting up?
[09:17] <adikwok> Ool: free -ltmh
[09:19] <Ool> so you can't know if it's lxde or an other process
[09:19] <rpgio> how much ram do you have adikwok
[09:19] <adikwok> rpgio: 2gb
[09:19] <rpgio> perhaps you should download some more
[09:20] <Ool> top, ps auxf or the lxtask app can tell more
[09:20] <adikwok> rpgio: download ram?
[09:34] <gebbione> tomreyn, any further info i can provide to troubleshoot the dead screens problem?
[09:37] <tomreyn> gebbione: sorry, i missed your reply. your logs are in /var/log/syslog*
[09:38] <tomreyn> gebbione: if you like, you can post the url returned by this command and i'll have a look if i can spot anything that's obviously wrong:  dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:43] <nanoz> hi getting following recently
[09:43] <nanoz> pastebin.com/Y49cq1TR
[09:43] <gebbione> tomreyn, thank you, can i PM the url instead  of sending it in the channel?
[09:43] <nanoz> unable to login
[09:44] <nanoz> was able to login till yesterday
[09:44] <nanoz> my last command shows there was crash
[09:44] <tomreyn> gebbione: ok
[09:45] <tomreyn> here's is usually preferred, so that others can investigate and respond, too.
[09:46] <gebbione> i was just a bit wondering if this log contained a bit too much info to share it openly
[09:46] <nanoz> i'm not sure why ubuntu gives me alot of issue in a span of 20 days from first setup
[09:48] <nanoz> i had 13 days to reset my password from yesterday from today morning unable to login
[09:49] <nanoz> tomreyn, can you please look into this?
[09:50] <tomreyn> nanoz: i'm reviewing gebbione's log now. maybe later.
[09:51] <nanoz> tomreyn, i'm unable to login to my system :/ well if that dont sound serious :)
[09:52] <phiona> i installed geany in lubuntu and i want the shortcut to be in accessories, not in programming as it is now. what do i do?
[09:55] <nanoz> hi rpgio
[09:56] <tomreyn> nanoz: we'Re all volunteers here, you know
[09:57] <nanoz> sorry about that tomreyn ;)
[09:57] <guiverc> phiona, sorry I can't help, but this may be useful (customizing LXDE menu - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870415)
[09:58] <nanoz> phiona which desktop your using?
[09:59] <phiona> nanoz: lxde
[10:03] <tomreyn> gebbione: i notice you have "acpi=force" set there, does your system malfunction without it?
[10:04] <tomreyn> gebbione: your kernel version is affected by bug 1813873 - but this should not cause these effects.
[10:09] <tomreyn> gebbione: the only message i found to provide a potential indication for any graphics malfunction is on the last line of your log.
[10:09] <tomreyn> you could search the web for it, maybe finding out more about it
[10:10] <gebbione> interesting, i ll check
[10:10] <nanoz> tomreyn, what can i do to login? seems i used same password as of lastime still get login password failed.
[10:10] <tomreyn> but remember this was a good boot (dmestg returns the log of the current boot), you may want to reviewe the earlier boots' logs in syslog.
[10:10] <tomreyn> nanoz: you are not entitled to personal support around here
[10:11] <gebbione> tomreyn, abut acpi=force yes i think i had permanent problems without this
[10:11] <nanoz> tomreyn, asked opinion not personal support
[10:11] <SleepyTurtle> hi, would this be a good place to ask about package manual installation with cmake?
[10:11] <tomreyn> nanoz: you keep addressing me specifically about your issue, though, i have not originally addressed you.
[10:13] <nanoz> yes opinion different from personal support tomreyn
[10:16] <SleepyTurtle> I want to use environment variables to set a path
[10:16] <tomreyn> nanoz: you wrote earlier that you "had 13 days to reset my password" - so your passwords expire? is this computer owned by some organization (where this is a more common configuration)?
[10:16] <SleepyTurtle> I've tried exporting but it doesn't seem to work
[10:17] <nanoz> tomreyn, my password didnt expire i have still 13 days
[10:18] <SleepyTurtle> using set("OpenCV_DIR" "/usr/local/share/OpenCV") in cmake works, but I'd rather not have something specific to my computer as part of the build file. I've tried export OpenCV_DIR=/usr/local/share/OpenCV/ but it doesn't work
[10:18] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: cmake is a utility for building software, not for installing any. for questions about developing ubuntu software, you can join #ubuntu-app-devel - or join your favourite programming / scripting languages' channel.
[10:18] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: I'm asking about exporting
[10:19] <SleepyTurtle> which is ubuntu related, isn't it?
[10:19] <nanoz> yes owned by organization. tomreyn
[10:20] <tomreyn> nanoz: and this organization doesn't provide OS support?
[10:20] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: I'll check out  #ubuntu-app-devel anyway, thanks
[10:20] <nanoz> no tomreyn
[10:20] <tomreyn> nanoz: i doubt this. after all this sounds like a managed system.
[10:21] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: sure, ubuntu development is ubuntu related, but this channel we use just for ubuntu (user) support.
[10:22] <tomreyn> exporting environment variables can be done using the "export" command
[10:22] <tomreyn> on a shell
[10:23] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: I did that and can see the variable in printenv, but it doesn't seem to work with cmake
[10:23] <tomreyn> !password | nanoz
[10:23] <SleepyTurtle> tomreyn: sorry about posting here, I've posted in the channel you suggested
[10:23] <SleepyTurtle> thanks
[10:24] <tomreyn> SleepyTurtle: you'Re welcome ;)
[10:25] <nshire> is there a quick way to dump the framebuffer to a file from tty?
[10:26] <nshire> I keep getting random artifacting and I want to see if I can track anything down
[10:26] <tarzeau> yes
[10:26] <nanoz> i'm using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword this , option 2 , on moving to bash shell getting the username doesnot exist
[10:26] <nshire> something like cat /dev/fb0 > file.bmp?
[10:26] <nanoz> but was loggin till yesterday with same username
[10:27] <nanoz> even last command shows it
[10:27] <tarzeau> https://github.com/mdoege/AmigaShell
[10:27] <tarzeau> check the screenshot it has the command
[10:27] <tarzeau> or https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/how-to-take-a-screenshot-with-dev-fb0-918705/
[10:27] <tarzeau> or https://www.cnx-software.com/2010/07/18/how-to-do-a-framebuffer-screenshot/
[10:28] <nshire> looks like the last one is my best bet
[10:28] <nanoz> the user is not root user - as you know
[10:29] <tomreyn> nanoz: in an organization, your user account may be stored ina a networked authentication database, which may not be available during early boot.
[10:29] <tomreyn> nanoz: talk to your admins.
[10:33] <nanoz> btw i'm unable to access /home/username of the respective users folder
[10:34] <tomreyn> nanoz: talk to your admins.
[10:41] <ramsub07> Hi, my bluetooth fails to connect to my earphone when I disconnect my earphones. I had to restart for them to get connected again. I already have paired and trusted my earphones. What could be going wrong ?
[10:42] <ramsub07> It also recognises my earphone as "headphone" and provides the "audio sink" option
[10:57] <ramsub07> Hi, my bluetooth fails to connect to my earphone when I disconnect my earphones. I had to restart for them to get connected again. I already have paired and trusted my earphones. What could be going wrong ?
[11:02] <tomreyn> ramsub07: it's not easy to make a good guess onj what may be breaking there without more context. have you had a look at your logs, yet?
[11:04] <ramsub07> tomreyn: sure, but how do i check logs?
[11:05] <tomreyn> ramsub07: what's the output of "lsb_release -ds", run in a terminal?
[11:06] <ramsub07> 16.04
[11:06] <tomreyn> no
[11:06] <ramsub07> to be more accurate, Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS
[11:06] <tomreyn> install the pending updates, reboot, see if it still happens.
[11:10] <ramsub07> tomreyn: sudo apt-get update ?
[11:26] <tomreyn> ramsub07: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:26] <tomreyn> or use the GUI approach which should do the same
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:27] <tomreyn> ramsub07: "lsb_release -ds" should report a higher version number in the end.
[11:28] <lavinho> good morning
[11:29] <lavinho> how to install drivers dwa 171 revision c1 ?
[11:29] <lavinho> not function
[11:29] <jeremy31> lavinho: post URL from terminal for> lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:30] <lavinho> https://termbin.com/r1yf
[11:31] <jeremy31> lavinho: any results for> lsmod | grep 8188
[11:32] <lavinho> r8188eu               425984  0
[11:32] <lavinho> cfg80211              614400  1 r8188eu
[11:32] <LaRose_Rouge> hi, i  have a question, apologies if its not part of the group but i would like to know the different between wine and winehq builds. i hae both installed and i dunno if i need both or can keep one and remove the other to sae space coz they arent exactly small packages thjemseslves
[11:32] <lavinho> its dongle using insternet
[11:32] <jeremy31> lavinho URL for> rfkill list | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:33] <lavinho> no results
[11:33] <ramsub07> Hi guys, my laptop's USB ports have stopped working all of a sudden and it keeps repeating frequently. How do I debug if it's an OS error or an hardware issue?
[11:34] <jeremy31> ramsub07: Maybe this is connected to your bluetooth issues
[11:34] <ramsub07> jeremy31: even i suspect so
[11:35] <ramsub07> I did a sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart and my bluetooth says "no adapters found" and USB has stopped working
[11:35] <ramsub07> I checked the power from the port and it says 0W
[11:36] <tomreyn> LaRose_Rouge: winehq is someone elses' (upstream?) wine build, i think, it's not a package in ubuntu. "wine" in ubuntu is a virtual package depending on wine-stable|wine-development (at least in ubuntu 18.04)
[11:37] <jeremy31> lavinho: run the commands at https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/a8ca23e67a11dc7599e7ffb0a9667d65 and reboot
[11:38] <LaRose_Rouge> oh, so if i have winehq installed i dont need ubuntu wine? tomreyn
[11:38] <tomreyn> !wine | LaRose_Rouge i think this will tell
[11:40] <LaRose_Rouge> thanks tomreyn ill check the cahnnel out
[11:41] <lavinho> dongle listed is dongle used to the internet connection
[11:41] <lavinho> no dwa 171
[11:45] <lavinho> help me please
[11:45] <lavinho> dwa 171 revisonn c1
[12:11] <JuJUBee> What is the best way to move/copy users home folders to a new server?  Accounts already exist on new server with same UIDs
[12:12] <tomreyn> also same GID?
[12:12] <JuJUBee> yes
[12:12] <tomreyn> probably rsync then
[12:13] <JuJUBee> as root?
[12:14] <tomreyn> unless oyu can find a different way to access multiple users' data and persist ownership on the target.
[12:15] <tomreyn> so sudo works, too
[12:16] <JuJUBee> I tried that another time and it didn't work.  Ended up having to write a script to change perms
[12:16] <tomreyn> or you could tar as root, copy as restricted user, untar as root. but that's not winning you much
[12:18] <Captain_Haddock> Any owners of Gopros here? I'm unable to mount the camera in Linux (Kubuntu). The logs show "unhandled action 'bind'" issues.
[12:18] <Captain_Haddock> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zPymVNMmym/
[12:21] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: unplug other usb devices, try adifferent usb port at the opposite side of your computer (if any), try a different cable.
[12:26] <Gekko> I'm using the Ubuntu 18.04.2 live server installer, and under manual partition options, I cannot find a way to create a FAT32 partition. It's required for creating a EFI system partition
[12:26] <ramsub07> Hi, I had messaged here regarding my bluetooth issue and the issue has "spread" to my USB port as well. I tried restarting and everything worked fine for half an hour or so, then the same problem resurfaced
[12:26] <Gekko> Is there some other way to create that? Maybe drop in to a terminal temporarily?
[12:27] <tomreyn> Gekko: you just boot in uefi mode and choose the disk you want to have the esp on, and choose to make it bootable
[12:27] <ramsub07> When the error occurs, i can see the bluetooth unable to find an adapter and then USB ports have no power
[12:27] <ramsub07> How should i debug whether it is a software or a hardware issue?
[12:27] <Gekko> This is a SOC device and I nede to have specific sizes, including an EFI partition of exact size
[12:28] <tomreyn> Gekko: use alternative server installer, optionally partition in advance
[12:28] <Gekko> righto
[12:28] <Gekko> I actually tried using a clonezilla live image to partition manually, but the ubuntu installer didn't list the partitions, only listed the disk
[12:30] <tomreyn> Gekko: the default ubuntu server installer is unable to install to existing partition structures.
[12:31] <Gekko> Ah
[12:31] <Gekko> Well I'm getting the alt one
[12:31] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: It's happening on all ports :(
[12:32] <Captain_Haddock> (I can access the GoPro on my Windows laptop just fine. And other cameras work fine on the Kubuntu desktop as well.)(
[12:33] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: please post the output of this command to a pastebin: cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline /etc/os-release
[12:33] <JuJUBee> Captain_Haddock, tomreyn is ExFAT built in to linux os yet?
[12:34] <JuJUBee> Maybe need to install exfat-fuse and exfat-utils?
[12:34] <tomreyn> probably
[12:34] <stdedos> Hello there! Is there some kind of PPA that updates Evolution (only) to anything newer than 3.18?
[12:35] <ramsub07> hi tomreyn
[12:35] <tomreyn> !ppa | stdedos this hint contains the address of a ppa search:
[12:36] <tomreyn> hi ramsub07
[12:37] <ramsub07> tomreyn: my USB ports don't work anymore, and lsusb shows just two devices as the available ones
[12:37] <ramsub07> do you know what could be going wrong?
[12:37]  * tomreyn looks around for a crystasl ball, but finds none
[12:37] <tomreyn> no
[12:38] <ramsub07> tomreyn: how do I figure out if it's a hardware error or something to do with drivers/OS ?
[12:38] <tomreyn> ramsub07: logs
[12:38] <ramsub07> tomreyn: where do i check the logs specific to USB?
[12:39] <stdedos> tomreyn thank you. I don't mean to be picky, but, is there some "additional" filtering options and/or sorting per build age for PPAs? "evolution" gives 172 results, "evolution 3.[12]\d" gives one result that doesn't even have the "evolution" package
[12:39] <tomreyn> ramsub07: /var/log/syslog or journalctl
[12:40] <tomreyn> stdedos: i'm not aware of any. i'm also unhappy with the situation. ppa's are unsupported, though, of course.
[12:40] <ioria> stdedos,  Y PPA Manager   should let you do some filtering
[12:42] <stdedos> tomreyn I know the dangers of PPAs. However, there _are_ enough things that work nicely, and I currently have a small dependency hell to move to 18.04 :/  (I don't like the new UI too, but that's my problem I guess)
[12:42] <stdedos> ioria thank you, I will check it o
[12:42] <tomreyn> stdedos: you can use a different desktop environment, gnome-shell is not mandatory.
[12:44] <tomreyn> stdedos: prior to dist-upgrading, i usually disable all PPAs, then use this script to find out which packages i need to purge (or uninstall) or downgrade to versions in ubuntu proper: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[12:44] <stdedos> tomreyn I know. Unity :-p  I don't wanna hog you with coffee-time chatter though
[12:45] <ramsub07> tomreyn: i see many lines of logs, but how do i know which is the recent one?
[12:45] <ramsub07> I see 14:09:55 but my local time is 13:45 now
[12:45] <tomreyn> ramsub07: maybe it's from a different day, or the log is in a different time zone.
[12:46] <stdedos> tomreyn some of them are standalone debs. I will keep your script closely though, when I decide to go for it :-
[12:46] <stdedos> :-D   *
[12:46] <tomreyn> "uptime" reports when you last booted.
[12:46] <ramsub07> tomreyn: journalctl shows the recent ones first, right?
[12:46] <tomreyn> those "standalone debs" you should really uninstall before you start the release upgrade.
[12:47] <tomreyn> ramsub07: no
[12:47] <tomreyn> ramsub07: journalctl --help
[12:47] <tomreyn> ramsub07: -b to get only logs form latest boot (currently active session)
[12:48] <tomreyn> s/form/since/
[12:49] <tomreyn> it defaults to the "less" pager, press (shift) G to go to the end of the output, double (lower case) g to go to the start.
[12:53] <ramsub07> tomreyn: http://dpaste.com/1T1FV0N here are the logs from this session
[12:53] <ramsub07> they now match with my timezone
[12:53] <Gekko> tomreyn: the alt installer worked. Seems like it's just the debian installer
[12:56] <oaulakh> my bluetooth not working after "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[12:56] <ramsub07> oaulakh: lol. welcome to the club
[12:57] <oaulakh> ramsub07: ur too?
[12:57] <ramsub07> yes
[12:57] <ramsub07> not just bluetooth, but my USB as well
[12:57] <oaulakh> anyone??
[12:58] <oaulakh> ramsub07: no my usb working fine
[12:58] <oaulakh> ramsub07: but my netgear wifi dongle not working i have to use usb
[12:59] <ramsub07> oaulakh: mine as well for a short while
[12:59] <tomreyn> ramsub07: please post the output of this command to a pastebin: cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline /etc/os-release
[13:01] <tomreyn> Gekko: yes, the good old debian installer is now called 'alternative', since someone made a (much too early) decision to replace it by the new subiquity + curtin based one.
[13:02] <ramsub07> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/Pyx5bGPn
[13:02] <oaulakh> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sH6MmF8Fhj/
[13:04] <ioria> oaulakh, you can start upgrading the kernel;  sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:04] <oaulakh> ioria: ok !
[13:05] <ioria> oaulakh,  and reboot
[13:05] <tomreyn> ramsub07: might be a result of bug 1813873
[13:05] <rexwin_> how to restart samba in ubuntu 18
[13:05] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | rexwin_
[13:05] <oaulakh> ioria: ok sure!
[13:05] <ioria> rexwin_,  sudo service smbd restart
[13:06] <oaulakh> ioria: will this full upgrade those problems like my wifi dongle??? and bluetooth!
[13:06] <oaulakh> *fix
[13:07] <ioria> oaulakh,  how can i knwo; you can always boot a previous kernel
[13:08] <oaulakh> ioria: ok but how, means first i will see this kernel solves my problem otherwise i will switch back to old one
[13:08] <oaulakh> ioria: help me after i reboot ok :)
[13:08] <ioria> oaulakh, you use the Grub screen or the settings in /etc/default/grub
[13:08] <oaulakh> ioria: yup
[13:09] <oaulakh> ioria: grub screen at startup
[13:09] <ioria> yes
[13:10] <tomreyn> oaulakh: despite the name, all that "apt full-upgrade" really does is really to install security patches and bugfixes , it does not upgrade to a newer ubuntu version, it should never introduce new bugs.
[13:11] <oaulakh> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VG6xVKqqvj/
[13:11] <tomreyn> this statement refers to official apt repositories, PPA's may behave differently.
[13:11] <oaulakh> tomreyn: i'm not sure whats wrong but i face error while connecting my bt headphones
[13:12] <ioria> oaulakh, ok, reboot
[13:12] <oaulakh> ioria: ok
[13:15] <oaulakh> ioria: no, still bluetooth not working
[13:15] <ioria> oaulakh, uname -r
[13:15] <oaulakh> ioria: can i unistall these update to rollback my ubuntu version
[13:16] <oaulakh> ioria: 4.18.0-15-generic
[13:16] <tomreyn> ramsub07: those "snd_hda_codec_hdmi hdaudioC1D0: out of range" errors are about HDMI audio. this is not your main sound card, but just the one which is used if you use HDMI for audio. there may be ways to disable it if you don't need it.
[13:16] <ioria> oaulakh, dmesg | grep -i bluetooth
[13:17] <oaulakh> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5crxbp8JB7/
[13:19] <ioria> oaulakh, dmesg |  grep -i firmware
[13:19] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: Sorry for the late reply: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mjdvNd6D9m/
[13:20] <Captain_Haddock> JuJUBee: How do I check? (ExFat)
[13:21] <oaulakh> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pDp4HZmzZ9/
[13:21] <jeger> Hello
[13:22] <Captain_Haddock> JuJUBee: I installed exfat-fuse and exfat-utils and then plugged the gopro in. Same story.
[13:22] <Captain_Haddock> I don't think I need to reboot. Do I?
[13:25] <Deihmos> Is it possible to add a kernel to the installation media ?
[13:27] <ioria> oaulakh, bluetoothctl
[13:28] <klemax> Hello. Is there any web based firewall on ubuntu?
[13:29] <nakamaki> vestacp or webmin can control ufw i think
[13:29] <oaulakh> ioria: and than???
[13:30] <ioria> oaulakh, the output
[13:31] <klemax> nakamaki: as far as i know, they are hosting control panel. Thats a lot for me. I just need a web interface.
[13:31] <oaulakh> ioria: it's showing bluetooth terminal, under devices it do showing my headphones but how to connect to my device
[13:31] <nakamaki> klemax: you can use those perfectly at home
[13:32] <nakamaki> i used webmin for all kinds of shit
[13:32] <klemax> Does webmin support ubuntu 14.04?
[13:32] <oaulakh> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D74MmT9N46/
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> klemax: 14.04 will be end of life soon
[13:33] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: i don't think you need to reboot to enable user-space (fuse) exfat support. what makes you think you need exfat support, though?
[13:33] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: The comment by JuJUBee.
[13:34] <oaulakh> ioria: Muffs L is my device
[13:34] <Captain_Haddock> I thought "Captain_Haddock, tomreyn is ExFAT built in to linux os yet?" was a hint :|
[13:34] <JuJUBee> Captain_Haddock, was just a thought...
[13:34] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: maybe it was, i don't know.
[13:34] <ioria> oaulakh, pair <mac>
[13:34] <JuJUBee> Captain_Haddock, have you tried reading the card in a card reader?
[13:35] <tomreyn> JuJUBee: do you know that a GoPro HERO7 uses an ExFat file system?
[13:35] <Captain_Haddock> JuJUBee: I don't have one. BUt I can access the Gopro fine on an old Windows XP laptop.
[13:36] <JuJUBee> tomreyn, according to gopro, 64G uses exfat 32G can use exfat or fat
[13:36] <klemax> lotuspsychje: yeah I have to upgrade it.
[13:37] <oaulakh> ioria: no, but "connect <mac>" works, thanks man
[13:37] <ioria> oaulakh, ok
[13:37] <Captain_Haddock> JuJUBee: FWIW, this is a 128GB card.
[13:38] <oaulakh> ioria: sorry to say can you help me netgear wifi dongle :)
[13:38] <oaulakh> *with
[13:38] <JuJUBee> Captain_Haddock, I think it is 64G and higher uses exfat
[13:38] <ioria> oaulakh, unplu it,plug again and paste  dmesg | tail
[13:39] <ioria> oaulakh,  dmesg | tail  -30
[13:41] <Captain_Haddock> JuJUBee: According to this, I have to reboot after installing exfat. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2253205
[13:42] <oaulakh> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bxB7ZcYZ2N/
[13:42] <Captain_Haddock> Will do so in 10 minutes after a transfer is done.
[13:43] <ioria> oaulakh,  sudo lshw -c Network
[13:44] <oaulakh> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v4PQ2vTBJ8/
[13:46] <ioria> oaulakh,  what interface are you using atm ?
[13:46] <oaulakh> ioria: usb through phone :)
[13:47] <tomreyn> enp0s29u1u1u4
[13:47] <ioria> oaulakh,  ip a
[13:49] <oaulakh> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zt5twSWY3r/
[13:50] <ioria> oaulakh,  open network-manager and configure the device (wlx00223fed7604)
[13:51] <CrtxReavr> Is there a specified way to remove all but the base packages from an Ubuntu Server install?
[13:51] <HyP3r> Hello, I just trying to install ubuntu server on a hyperv (microsoft) server. With the last Linux (Debian) servers I had the problem that the dynamic hard disc was growing all the time. So I created a thread and the solution is to create the ext4 partition with "-G 4096" (Flex block group size). And now the the question is how I can install ubuntu server and can tell the "mkfs.ext4" to do that:
[13:51] <HyP3r> mkfs.ext4 -G 4096 /dev/sdX1
[13:51] <HyP3r> https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/e1928b52-70ee-41a8-98b5-f6e8cc03f642/dynamically-growing-vhdx-debian-stretch?forum=winserverhyperv
[13:51] <oaulakh> ioria: but device name
[13:52] <ioria> oaulakh,  ip link set dev  wlx00223fed760
[13:52] <ioria> oaulakh,  ip link set dev  wlx00223fed7604
[13:53] <ioria> brb sy
[13:56] <oaulakh> ioria: i have nm-tray
[13:56] <oaulakh> ioria: i dunno how to fix nm-tray
[13:59] <CrtxReavr> I found https://askubuntu.com/questions/240346/how-to-keep-only-ubuntu-minimal
[13:59] <CrtxReavr> What could go wrong?
[14:04] <nomad_fr> hi, I've some trouble with /var/cache/fontconfig on ubuntu 18.04.1
[14:04] <nomad_fr> it's keep geatting biger and bigger
[14:05] <nomad_fr> # lsof /var/ | grep fontconfig | wc -l
[14:05] <nomad_fr> 2353
[14:05] <nomad_fr> # lsof /var/ | wc -l > 2408
[14:05] <nomad_fr> # df -h /var/ -> /dev/nvme0n1p5  5.0G  4.7G   14M 100% /var
[14:05] <nomad_fr> # ncdu /var -> Total disk usage: 827.6 MiB  Apparent size: 789.8 MiB  Items: 24203
[14:05] <tomreyn> HyP3r: the correct answer seems ot be in post 3 of the discussion you pointed to - "I don't recommend using dynamic VHDX in a production environment"
[14:08] <tomreyn> HyP3r: if you still want to use the custom ext4 metadata locations you can do the partitioning and file systems (and maybe other layers in between) first, then boot a live linux system, mount file systems and chroot to the installation directory and use debootstrap to install,
[14:26] <CrtxReavr> Yeah, that didn't work well.
[14:32] <samgoody> Hi. Am on a VPS, and suddenly getting errors about not being able to allocate memory
[14:40] <ikanobori> Maybe you need more memory.
[14:43] <whislock> samgoody: What are the specs of the VPS in question?
[14:43] <yvyz> samgoody: What is the size of your pagefile, and what is the amount of memory allocated to the VPS?
[14:44] <yvyz> nomad_fr: sort of expected operation given that a lot of programs utilize fontconfig to handle their fonts. fc-cache is the cache location for said fonts used by said programs.
[14:45] <yvyz> nomad_fr: you can fc-cache -r to erase all current cache data and rescan.
[14:45] <yvyz> nomad_fr: see -> man fc-cache
[14:45] <CrtxReavr> I have an ubuntu 18.04 server VM on vbox. . .. when the VM is fired up it prints an error on the console "error not symbol table found - hit any key" then after a timeout it seems to boot & function normally.  How can I fix that?
[14:46] <whislock> CrtxReavr: I get that sort of thing from time to time. I've always ignored it, as it never seems to actually affect function in any way.
[14:46] <samgoody> @whislock, thanks for the attention. I rebooted, and now things look OK.
[14:46] <CrtxReavr> whislock, this will have to go into production though, and people will freak.
[14:47] <whislock> CrtxReavr: Well, I'm sorry for that, but that still doesn't mean its significant. It might be easier to just inform them that such messages are "false positives."
[14:47] <whislock> samgoody: It would still be valuable to know the specs of the box in question.
[14:48] <samgoody> How do I find them out? I can copy from the page of the host, but is there a way to outout it from Ubuntu
[14:48] <whislock> samgoody: In terms of memory, pastebin the output of 'free -h'.
[14:49] <yvyz> CrtxReavr: you could attempt to reinstall grub.
[14:49] <yvyz> CrtxReavr: or run grub-install
[14:49] <nomad_fr> yvyz: I fond it, it was not in /var/log/fontconfig ilwas in /var/log/archives/ some old log file that were deleted but rsyslog still keep theom open, I juste restart rsyslog and voila
[14:49] <yvyz> nomad_fr: awesome++
[14:50] <CrtxReavr> yvyz, grub-install wants an install device, I assume tha twould be sda, not sda1?
[14:51] <whislock> CrtxReavr: Assuming you're not booting via UEFI, yes, /dev/sda would be a good bet.
[14:51] <CrtxReavr> And that made it go away - thanks guys.
[14:51] <whislock> Nice. There you go.
[14:52] <samgoody> https://paste.debian.net/1071660/
[14:53] <acebrianjuan> Hi all
[14:53] <acebrianjuan> Any Qt devs around?
[14:53] <whislock> samgoody: That's a pretty hefty amount of memory. Sounds like something might have run away in terms of memory consumption.
[14:53] <yvyz> samgoody: your swap space should match your memory. at least in best practice.
[14:53] <whislock> yvyz: That's not necessarily true.
[14:54] <yvyz> ^ i know
[14:54] <whislock> yvyz: In fact, that's only the recommendation if you're on a desktop and you want to be able to hibernate to disk.
[14:54] <samgoody> Well, not much to do now, I guess. Will monitor it
[14:54] <yvyz> whislock: hmm maybe thats where I got it from. ive just been doing it that way for a long time.
[14:55] <yvyz> samgoody: run -> top -c and sort by memory and see if something starts growing erratically
[14:55] <samgoody> Thank you very much/
[15:01] <ioria> oaulakh,  still there ?
[15:01] <mustmodify> I have an old 32bit Dell Inspiron Mini that I'm trying to turn into a "site is up" status screen for various sites I monitor.
[15:02] <mustmodify> I can't figure out how to get wifi working.
[15:02] <mustmodify> lspci | grep Network shows "Network controller: Broadcom Inc ... BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[15:02] <mustmodify> but... no code like wlan0 etc
[15:02] <mustmodify> and wlan0 doesn't show up in ifconfig
[15:02] <mustmodify> so ... I guess I'm not sure what to do now.
[15:03] <yvyz> mustmodify: iwconfig
[15:03] <mustmodify> enp4s0: no wireless extensions
[15:03] <mustmodify> lo: no wireless extensions
[15:03] <yvyz> mustmodify: what does nmcli d say?
[15:04] <mustmodify> it says that isn't installed. :)
[15:04] <mustmodify> working on it
[15:04] <mustmodify> (I'm plugged into ethernet for now.)
[15:06] <yvyz> mustmodify: Well if lshw -C network displays a listed wireless device.... and lsmod lists the driver
[15:06] <yvyz> mustmodify: or module rather
[15:06] <yvyz> mustmodify: you can: sudo modprobe <thecorrectmodulename>
[15:06] <mustmodify> still installing
[15:12] <acebrianjuan> Does anybody know the Ubuntu packages well enough?
[15:13] <hggdh> acebrianjuan: it is probably better to just ask your question
[15:13] <mustmodify> ok, I've installed 'network-manager'. Let me try the above recommendations again.
[15:14] <mustmodify> iwconfig shows the same thing
[15:14] <acebrianjuan> hggdh: I need some help finding which package contains the required dependencies for building my project
[15:14] <mustmodify> nmcli has two rows, enp4s0 /ethernet and lo / loopback
[15:15] <acebrianjuan> This is the output of my CMake build: https://pastebin.com/bx8Sdaru
[15:15] <acebrianjuan> Notice that it is complaining about QtLocation
[15:15] <acebrianjuan> I'm doing research with `apt search qtlocation` and `apt search qt5location`
[15:15] <mustmodify> `lshw -C network` shows two devices... a wifi device and an ethernet device.
[15:15] <acebrianjuan> there are a few packages listed
[15:17] <mustmodify> lsmod doesn't seem to show the wifi driver
[15:20] <mustmodify> So `lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net` shows that the wifi device has 'Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge'
[15:21] <hggdh> acebrianjuan: you can use https://packages.ubuntu.com/ to search for package contents, or apt-cache (needs to be installed), or apt-file (needs to be installed)
[15:22] <mustmodify> I was wrong -- lsmod does show several things with "b43", which seems to be associated with wifi.
[15:22] <mustmodify> cfg80211, mac80211, and bcma
[15:27] <Deihmos> Is 18.10 considered a stable release or is it something like Debian unstable? Had many bugs with 18.10 but 18.04 was flawless
[15:28] <yvyz> mustmodify: modprobe b43
[15:28] <mustmodify> Deihmos: it's considered 'stable' but won't be supported for as long as 18.04.
[15:28] <yvyz> Deihmos: it is stable but only supported for a short while.
[15:29] <mustmodify> yvyz: one moment, I started something else. Will get that as soon as the command line is available again.
[15:29] <mustmodify> yvyz: where did you get that username?
[15:30] <yvyz> From the lands of mystery.
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> Deihmos: All release versions are considered stable, Ubuntu strives for stability in all of their releases. LTS Releases are specifically created to be supported for an extended amount of time. Regular releases are supprted for a shorter time and require more frequent updates to the version stay on a supported version
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> !lts | Deihmos
[15:33] <mustmodify> yvyz: I did 'sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer' and how wlan0 appears in iwconfig!
[15:33] <jeremy31> mustmodify: that wifi needs firmware-b43-installer package to work
[15:33] <mustmodify> ta da!
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> Deihmos: For more information about releases see: https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle ... for more information on LTS see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[15:35] <yvyz> Another example that ubuntu-drivers autoinstall should have figured out.
[15:35] <yvyz> Glad it worked for yuo
[15:35] <MrHall> hello, question about ll command, what means the arrow on S06customScript.sh -> ../init.d/customScript.sh*
[15:36] <mustmodify> thanks all.
[15:36] <yvyz> MrHall: its a symlinked file
[15:36] <yvyz> S06customScript.sh is actually referring to the file ../init.d/customScript.sh
[15:37] <MrHall> thanks
[15:40] <mustmodify> So I did `iwconfig wlan0 essid mynetwork key mypassword`
[15:40] <mustmodify> with sudo
[15:41] <mustmodify> and then `sudo dhclient wlan0` and I've been waiting for > 5 minutes.
[15:41] <mustmodify> Should I kill it?
[15:42] <jeremy31> mustmodify: are you on live iso or on an install?
[15:42] <mustmodify> install
[15:43] <jeremy31> mustmodify: it might be better to reboot
[15:43] <mustmodify> k
[15:43] <mustmodify> There it is ... does not seem connected.
[15:43] <mustmodify> I'll reboot.
[15:45] <jeremy31> mustmodify: usually you have to unload ssb and b43 then modprobe b43 to get it to load firmware
[15:45] <mustmodify> unload ssb?
[15:45] <mustmodify> ifconfig shows wlan0, but it says "Link endcap: Ethernet"
[15:45] <mustmodify> so that's odd.
[15:48] <hggdh> acebrianjuan: perhaps you need the package qtlocation5-dev?
[15:48] <jeremy31> Mustmodify easier to reboot
[15:49] <mustmodify> I rebooted.
[15:49] <mustmodify> That's what it says after rebooting.
[15:50] <hggdh> acebrianjuan: also, please note that 'apt search' searches for *packages*, not package contents
[15:52] <eater9> \join #mate
[16:06] <acebrianjuan> hggdh: I wish I could talk to the person in charge of maintaining the official packages
[16:08] <tgm4883> acebrianjuan: I'm confused, isn't the problem you're missing dependencies for a custom source you're trying to build? What does that have to do with the official packages?
[16:10] <acebrianjuan> tgm4883: yes, it seems that I'm missing dependencies, but the apt package manager gives me very little information about each Qt package that I'm almost doing it blind
[16:12] <acebrianjuan> tgm4883: I don't know in which package the Ubuntu guys included the required dependencies that I need
[16:12] <tgm4883> acebrianjuan: you could use apt-file or use the ubuntu packages website https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[16:12] <tgm4883> acebrianjuan: either of those would let you search the contents of packages
[16:12] <acebrianjuan> tgm4883: the Qt packages are very fragmented
[16:13] <acebrianjuan> This may be an advantage, but for a noob like myself it makes it more tricky
[16:13] <tgm4883> acebrianjuan: they may be, but those resources are still going to be your best bet
[16:14] <tgm4883> acebrianjuan: if you actually asked the package maintainer (which is likely a team, not just a person), they are just going to search those resources
[16:14] <acebrianjuan> tgm4883: I've used `apt search qt5quick` and other combinations
[16:14] <acebrianjuan> I've gone ahead and installed all the matching packages
[16:14] <acebrianjuan> apt install libqt5quick*
[16:15] <acebrianjuan> and even after doing that my app can't build
[16:15] <acebrianjuan> CMake throws this error: https://pastebin.com/6SFFsFeA
[16:16] <tgm4883> acebrianjuan: ok, but did you actually try either of the two tools I suggested?
[16:17] <tgm4883> acebrianjuan: it would seem that one of these packages is the one you need (probably the top one)  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RwSmNMKm47/
[16:17] <tgm4883> apt search != apt-file find
[16:18] <acebrianjuan> tgm4883: ok, I'll intall apt-file
[16:20] <ioria> acebrianjuan, install qtdeclarative5-dev  (and libqt5quickcontrols2-5)
[16:22] <acebrianjuan> ioria: mate that worked! God bless you! How did you know?
[16:23] <ioria> acebrianjuan, ok, well, as you said Qt is spread over several packages
[16:23] <ioria> acebrianjuan, i had the same issue few weeks ago
[16:25] <acebrianjuan> ioria: what method did you follow to find the right packages? I'd like to learn how to solve this kind of stuff all by myself without having to bother you guys here on IRC
[16:26] <acebrianjuan> I feel so foolish sometimes
[16:26] <ioria> acebrianjuan, found: https://github.com/BelledonneCommunications/linphone-desktop/issues/140
[16:28] <acebrianjuan> ioria: awesome, thank you very much :)
[16:29] <acebrianjuan> tgm4883: thank you too mate :)
[16:29] <ioria> acebrianjuan, no problem
[16:30] <Deihmos> using the mini.iso installation there is an option to select kernel. what happens if I choose none? WHy will i late rbe able to install a kernel
[16:30] <Deihmos> How*
[16:31] <lordcirth__> Deihmos, I would guess the None option is for if you intend to manually install a kernel before rebooting
[16:31] <Deihmos> there is a way to do that?
[16:31] <Deihmos> i will check it out then
[16:31] <lordcirth__> Sure, you can just switch to a terminal during the installer, tinker, and then continue
[16:32] <Deihmos> my pc has issues with kernel past 4.9
[16:32] <lordcirth__> What issues?
[16:32] <lordcirth__> Kernel regressions should be reported as a bug, I think
[16:32] <Deihmos> not so much an issue but i notice much higher cpu use with my apps on the newer kernels
[16:33] <Deihmos> maybe pc too old for the newer kernels
[16:33] <Deihmos> haswell cpu
[16:41] <blackswan> i have a ppa on launchpad.net, but the signing key seems to have disappeared from keyserver.ubuntu.com. can anybody point me in the direction of fixing this? i had the exact same problem 2/22 and it then went away, i'm not sure if anybody determined the cause.
[16:42] <blackswan> the url is https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup&op=get&options=mr&exact=on&search=0x166B6D7B59863696BB483868EADD5972943FF4C4
[16:44] <genii> blackswan: Perhaps your key is expired
[16:54] <rodd> whats up with ubuntu .org ?
[16:54] <rodd> thought it was an official domain, but looks like a scam
[16:54] <blackswan> genii i do not believe that can possibly be the issue.
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> rodd: Please don't post random links without explaining what's on the other side or adding a warning
[16:55] <rodd> hows that a random link
[16:55] <blackswan> this is the ppa signing key that launchpad generates automatically.
[16:56] <genii> blackswan: Might be better to ask in #launchpad
[16:56] <blackswan> ok thx
[17:11] <Anthaas> Can someone tell me why this doesn't _not_ descend into the ./install directory? find . -name *.conf -type f -not -path "./install"
[17:13] <pragmaticenigma> Anthaas: because you told it "not" to
[17:13] <Anthaas> Huh? I don't want it to go into the ./install directory, but it does...
[17:14] <leftyfb> Anthaas: you really should use the actual path. Not relative.
[17:15] <Anthaas> leftyfb: That wouldn't make a difference.
[17:15] <Anthaas> leftyfb: Additionally, the -path option in man pages for find uses an example with a relative path.
[17:16] <leftyfb> Anthaas: try #bash
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> Anthaas: or use a web search: https://stackoverflow.com/a/4210072
[17:25] <hggdh> Anthaas: you may want to use -prune: find . -name "*.conf" -type f -path ./install -prune
[17:25] <leftyfb> hggdh: they told him that in #bash
[17:25] <hggdh> leftyfb: ah, thank you. I do not follow #bash...
[17:30] <Anthaas> Yeah - the order of options mattered.
[17:30] <Anthaas> prune should come first before name etc apparently.
[17:33] <Anthaas> From a guy there: -prune can have other tests *before* it but effectively needs to be the last thing on the left-hand-side of a logical OR (-o) expression part.  The find will then evaluate the right-hand-side of the -o (logical OR) part.
[18:08] <limboxx> Hello, short Question: is there a way to make a application suppress/override global hotkeys? (problem: want to use emacs and when i try to use Meta or Super Shortcuts, the terminal window loses focus)
[18:11] <saint_> can anyone tell me why this is not working on ubuntu ?
[18:11] <saint_> https://pastebin.com/NSVAcc7D
[18:12] <saint_> basic of basic.
[18:15] <limboxx> saint_: you can't call a function before its declared
[18:16] <saint_> limboxx just figured it out :/ thank you
[18:19] <KOLANICH> Hi everybody. Why there is no prebuilt gtest package in Ubuntu
[18:19] <yvyz> Why should there be?
[18:20] <yvyz> Hell, I have to install gcc if I want to use it...
[18:20] <yvyz> KOLANICH: but there does exist gtest on apt
[18:21] <KOLANICH> yvyz: it doesn't install the prebuilt lib, it's source code package
[18:22] <yvyz> Umm
[18:22] <yvyz> Have you ever unit tested something  before?
[18:22] <yvyz> If not, this is gonna a whole new world for ya.
[18:23] <KOLANICH> yvyz: Yes, I have. I usually use CMake and I already have the prebuilt gtest from git. But now I setup CI and I need the things to be as fast as possible. So no building gtest.
[18:24] <shibboleth> say you wanna do some opencv stuff and release repos are kinda stale (old lib versions)
[18:24] <lordcirth__> limboxx, I think you'd need to delete the shortcut
[18:24] <shibboleth> *and* you'd rather avoid using pip
[18:25] <shibboleth> are there opencv-related PPAs anyone feel like recommended?
[18:25] <yvyz> KOLANICH: You have a development issue, not an ubuntu issue. May I suggest absorbing better patterns into your dev procedures?
[18:25] <yvyz> shibboleth: why not build opencv locally?
[18:25] <KOLANICH> yvyz: a better patterns is when there are prebuilt packages for everything in a distro
[18:26] <KOLANICH> yvyz: in ideal case, updated after every commit
[18:26] <shibboleth> i'm talking about dependencies here
[18:27] <shibboleth> some stuff required python modules, libs, etc way ahead of release repos
[18:27] <KOLANICH> yvyz: so I wonder why there is no and if I should make one
[18:27] <shibboleth> and using pip is asking for trouble
[18:27] <yvyz> KOLANICH: Lol, the repoository is source code for a reason.
[18:28] <yvyz> KOLANICH: may I suggest ##linux so you can learn more about linux.
[18:28] <yvyz> shibboleth: this is more for #ubunut-discuss
[18:28] <yvyz> shibboleth: this is more for #ubuntu-discuss
[18:29] <KOLANICH> yvyz: I use gnu/linux for quite some years; what wrong in my understanding of it do you see?
[18:29] <MapMan> Hi! I grabbed ubuntu 18.10. I have 2 drives, ssd (sda) and an hdd(sdb). On sda, there's win 10. I installed ubuntu on sdb and uefi on sda. Now neither system boots. I get generic 'no bootable device' on launch.
[18:29] <MapMan> Any ideas?
[18:30] <lordcirth__> MapMan, what if you get a boot menu? Do the entries show up there?
[18:30] <lordcirth__> F12, perhaps
[18:30] <shibboleth> reboot to ubuntu install dvd, chroot, efibootmgr list
[18:30] <yvyz> ^
[18:30] <hggdh> KOLANICH: are you talking about the google test thingy?
[18:30] <KOLANICH> hggdh: yew
[18:30] <KOLANICH> yes
[18:30] <shibboleth> also, check the esp partition for bootx64/grubx64
[18:31] <hggdh> KOLANICH: look for the googletest package
[18:31] <MapMan> lordcirth__: nah, nothing useful there.
[18:31] <KOLANICH> hggdh: it contains only source code
[18:31] <MapMan> shibboleth: ok, I'll try that
[18:31] <lordcirth__> MapMan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair is handy
[18:32] <zzero1> hi I cloned with cat an sd to usb drive. The sd card has  Timing buffered disk reads:  34 MB in  3.01 seconds =  11.29 MB/sec . The usb drive has  Timing buffered disk reads: 218 MB in  3.01 seconds =  72.32 MB/sec. However I notive that thing work so much slower than before. I suspected the io and moved from an unbranded microsd to usb 3.0. However things are unbearably slow now. Any ideas ?
[18:32] <limboxx> lordcirth__: i just attempted to delete it as an option in gnome-tweaks caught my eye... it has a dedicated emacs-input option that overrides shortcuts specificly for the emacs window... https://imgur.com/wWHX5KD
[18:32] <zzero1> *c
[18:32] <yvyz> KOLANICH: is it too difficult to make CMakeLists.txt within the gtest repo? Or am I missing something vital here?
[18:32] <lordcirth__> limboxx, that's interesting, does it work?
[18:33] <zzero1> I should mention that the micro sd contains an ubuntu installation
[18:33] <yvyz> zzero1: you cloned a drive with cat and not dd?
[18:33] <zzero1> yes
[18:34] <KOLANICH> yvyz: yes, the vital thing is that building gtest is time. I wonder why there is no prebuilt package, so I can just use CMake gtest discovery scripts
[18:34] <MapMan> shibboleth: can you elaborate a little bit more on what am i supposed to do with chroot?
[18:34] <yvyz> KOLANICH: in the time youve been on this channel complaining, you would have it built 100x over by now.
[18:34] <shibboleth> well, boot the install dvd, change debconf pri to low
[18:34] <yvyz> Hell, add it to YOUR CMakeLists.txt
[18:35] <zzero1> yvyz like this # cat /dev/sdb > /dev/sdc && sync
[18:35] <shibboleth> mount root in /mnt, boot in /mnt/boot, esp in /mnt/boot/efi
[18:35] <KOLANICH> yvyz: rebuilding such a popular lib sounds mad for me
[18:35] <yvyz> zzero1: dd would have been more powerful and allowed you to set the buffer block size.
[18:35] <yvyz> KOLANICH: its not really popular.
[18:35] <shibboleth> mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev, /dev/pts in /mnt/dev/pts, /sys in /mnt/sys, /proc in /mnt/proc
[18:35] <zzero1> yeah I know that. I had to use sth faster though
[18:35] <shibboleth> chroot /mnt
[18:35] <shibboleth> bash
[18:35] <KOLANICH> yvyz: it is. most of C++ projects, I use, use it.
[18:36] <shibboleth> efibootmgr --help
[18:36] <yvyz> KOLANICH: so its popular for you
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> zzero1: Use dd when cloaning devices... that's what it designed for. As for the difference in Read speeds, there are a lot of different factors and many of them can have to do with the way the card reader is attached to the system versus the USB. Also, in many systems the Card readers share the same node as a USB device, USB will only operate as fast as the slowest device attached to that bus. Basically, the difference in read
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> speeds isn't something that this channel will be able to troubleshoot
[18:37] <zzero1> pragmaticenigma: I should mention also that the microsd card is attached to the system using a usb card card
[18:37] <zzero1> reader
[18:38] <yvyz> Well, native sd card write speeds are what, 300 MB/s?
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> zzero1: The card reader can introduce it's own latency, and again, the USB bus speed is slowed to the slowest connected device. If you are connected to the same bus as the keyboard, it will be much slower
[18:39] <zzero1> the thing is that the system that is contained in the microsd card actually performs much better
[18:40] <limboxx> lordcirth__: not really sadly... and i also didn't want to use emacs gui i was aiming for guake...
[18:40] <yvyz> zzero1: use cat to dupe drives is a bit oldschool. dd will let you set the io block size with bs=<size>
[18:41] <yvyz> zzero1: you could find speed increases with using bs=1M, or 64K, or any number of sizes.
[18:41] <yvyz> zzero1: could be a good time to try out a few and learn.
[18:41] <shibboleth> and doing either with SSDs as destination is doijg it wrong
[18:42] <zzero1> the usb 3.0 cloned system with the supposedly higher speeds, performs like a turtle
[18:42] <zzero1> I'm trying to figure out why
[18:42] <hggdh> KOLANICH: from the Debian page for googletest: "This package does not contain a library to link against, but rather the source code to build the google test library; this is because the google test library must be built with the same flags as the C++ code under test."
[18:42] <zzero1> that's why I'm asking the irc
[18:42] <yvyz> hggdh: shh, dont be logical here.
[18:43] <hggdh> KOLANICH: so there. It is provided in source code only
[18:43] <zzero1> I need some fresh ideas
[18:43] <yvyz> zzero1: I am trying to help you.
[18:43] <hggdh> yvyz: please don't go this way
[18:43] <yvyz> hggdh: what.
[18:43] <zzero1> I suppose you are :)
[18:44] <MapMan> shibboleth: change debfconf pri to low - as in, modify the /var/cache/debconf/config.dat file and change priority to low?
[18:44] <yvyz> zzero1: block sizes for I/O are highly important, hense why DD provides a flag for setting it.
[18:44] <zzero1> I know guys that disk dump offers more versatility
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> zzero1: the "cat" command is not designed to handle binary data. When you cloned your device, it's possible that the some of the data got corrupted. That is why we are recommending you try it with dd. The "dd" application is meant for binary data. Use that instead
[18:44] <yvyz> zzero1: read this http://blog.tdg5.com/tuning-dd-block-size/
[18:44] <shibboleth> no, the installer has an option to set it to low
[18:45] <zzero1> thanks for the article
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> zzero1: The recommendation of block size with DD is just a tuning method, some devices perform better when then block size isn't maxed out
[18:45] <shibboleth> or just edit the grub cmdline, add "priority=low" at the end
[18:45] <shibboleth> no quotes
[18:45] <KOLANICH> hggdh: thanks. Though still strange.
[18:46] <shibboleth> if you're using the... new fischer-price installer i dunno
[18:46] <MapMan> shibboleth: oh, ok
[18:46] <KOLANICH> I am using the prebuilt gtest for long time and worked fine.
[18:47] <zzero1> pragmaticenigma: so the idea is that the cloned system behaves so slowish , well because of a possible corruption during the "cat cloning" ? What else ?
[18:48] <johnfg> hi folks
[18:49] <johnfg> So, I've got no passwd for root.  Not a problem until adding a printer via cups, and it asks for user name and password.
[18:49] <johnfg> What's the workaround?
[18:50] <yvyz> zzero1: so you finished the drive clone, booted the clone, and its slow?
[18:50] <yvyz> johnfg: you could sudo su, and then use just 'passwd' to assigned root a password
[18:51] <zzero1> Yeah that's what I'm saying. I'm asking here to actually figure out possible explanations as to why
[18:51] <hggdh> zzero1: Ubuntu, by default, does not allow root direct logins. You can do root-stuff via sudo
[18:52] <nakamaki> johnfg: doesnt it use the debian-sys-maint user?
[18:52] <zzero1> yeah I sometimes do sudo -i to get # instead of a $
[18:52] <johnfg> nakamaki: I don't know?  who is that?
[18:53] <nakamaki> thats an administrative user that gets created during the installation of the os
[18:53] <johnfg> nakamaki: I'm running 18.04, and I don't find any debian-sys-maint user.
[18:54] <nakamaki> ah well its a mysql only user apparently
[18:55] <johnfg> nakamaki: Yup, I just found the same.
[18:56] <zzero1> yvyz the cloned (usb 3.0 drive) is much slower compared to the microsd system
[18:57] <leftyfb> johnfg: when you run an application that asks for admin credentials, you enter your user and password. Not root.
[18:58] <zzero1> so much so that I consider cloning the system again to .... an other microsd ...
[18:58] <yvyz> zzero1: when you 'sudo fdisk -l' what are the Units of either disk say?
[18:58] <linarcx> zzero1: hello
[18:59] <zzero1> sorry
[19:00] <yvyz> zzero1: sudo dumpe2fs /dev/<yourdevice> | fgrep -e 'Block size'
[19:00] <yvyz> run it for both of your drives
[19:01] <johnfg> leftyfb: Doesn't work.  I'm in both the lp and lpadmin groups, but cups still doesn't accept those credentials.
[19:01] <yvyz> It seems like something somewhere is forcing your i/o to fragment data in a way that is grossly slowing down iops.
[19:02] <zzero1> yvyz https://pastebin.com/xx5FQ9YP
[19:02] <zzero1> fdisk -l
[19:04] <yvyz> Well, to start, /dev/sda and /dev/sdb have the same disk UUID
[19:04] <zzero1> yes, go on
[19:05] <johnfg> Any other ideas guys?
[19:05] <yvyz> zzero1: sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda | fgrep -e 'Block size' && sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sdb | fgrep -e 'Block size' | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:06] <yvyz> johnfg: are you adding the printer via cups cli or with the gui?
[19:07] <johnfg> yvyz: the gui at localhost:631.
[19:07] <johnfg> Not used the cli.
[19:08] <zzero1> no need to grep https://termbin.com/028g
[19:09] <yvyz> zzero1: sorry
[19:09] <yvyz> zzero1: sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | fgrep -e 'Block size' && sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sdb1 | fgrep -e 'Block size' | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:10] <zzero1> you mean the efi partition. not the root here. is that your intention ?
[19:11] <yvyz> I just want to make sure the drives have the same block before we do something else.
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> johnfg: Use the same username and password you use to login
[19:11] <zzero1> ok
[19:11] <zzero1> hold on
[19:12] <yvyz> It is interesting that both disks post the same UUID, which may not be the issue but maybe a symptom of improper disk duplication. Hense, again, why I suggested to use dd in place of cat d > d2
[19:12] <pragmaticenigma> johnfg: The cups web interface needs the credentials of a user that has sudo permissions. If your user has sudo permissions, you can just use the same username and password you use to login into the computer. CUPS will take care of the rest
[19:12] <yvyz> im not privy to the specifics of using cat to duplicate drives because I literally never use it for that.
[19:12] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: You still around?
[19:13] <yvyz> but since dd is specificaly designed for cloning, and is nearly pervasive across all distros, linux and unix systems alike... I would strongly recommend seeing what you end up with using `dd`
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> zzero1: This channel isn't the write place to get into a discussion and analysis of why something isn't working. It's intended to provide support for issues. The solution to your problem is to use dd. If you would like to analyze, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for discussion.
[19:14] <zzero1> @pragmaticenigma thanks, wasn't aware
[19:15] <Captain_Haddock> Anybody here have a gopro? I'm having trouble accessing it in Kubuntu. It is detected and connects before disconnecting. The log states: "upowerd[824]: unhandled action 'bind' on /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-11"
[19:17] <pragmaticenigma> Captain_Haddock: Make sure the USB cable is firmly connected. Try unplugging/plugging both ends a few times. If the problem persists, try a different USB port. Also, if you have another computer (or windows) see if it works there.
[19:19] <Captain_Haddock> pragmaticenigma: Works on Windows XP using the same cable. I've tried all the different ports on this desktop. I've also tried installing libraries for accessing exfat partitions as per JuJUBee's suggestion earlier. But that hasn't helped either.
[19:20] <Captain_Haddock> pragmaticenigma: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KrDVpJfBq2/
[19:21] <pragmaticenigma> Captain_Haddock: Is the gopro fully charged?
[19:21] <Captain_Haddock> pragmaticenigma: yep
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> Captain_Haddock: The issue is power management is causing a fault. Usually indicative of the device trying to pull too much power from the USB port.
[19:23] <IknoweD> greetings ubuntuans.  over successuve ubuntu releases, my ext usb disks are not visible on ubuntu reboot until i power cycle the disks.  need to replace drives, is there anything i should look for in a new disk or is this a ubuntu-specific thing, config problem or what?  thanks.
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> Captain_Haddock: Another suggestion I'm seeing is to make sure the device is set to be a mass storage device. Check its settings as they may have changed.
[19:25] <Captain_Haddock> pragmaticenigma: I see. Let me have a look. Also, the other thing I thought off was to turn off automounting.
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> Captain_Haddock: I did find this... but not sure if it is related: https://superuser.com/a/1206665
[19:26] <yvyz> IknoweD: see -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbmount/+bug/1768010
[19:26] <yvyz> IknoweD: and see -> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/330094/udev-rule-to-mount-disk-does-not-work
[19:27] <IknoweD> yvyz: thx!
[19:28] <IknoweD> yvyz: not sure that is the same problem.  these devices are not visible even using lsusb
[19:29] <yvyz> Hmm
[19:30] <yvyz> IknoweD: so, they were powered on, mounted and usable, then after reboot they are not even listed in lsusb? do I have that right?
[19:31] <IknoweD> yvyz: yes, it has been this way for years.  when the intel NUC and its predecessors rebooted, I have to manually power cycle the USB devices for them to be visible on the USBus.
[19:31] <yvyz> IknoweD: external drives with independant dc power?
[19:32] <IknoweD> yvyz: yes, each is plugged into the same power strip.  their lights show on when ubuntu reboots but are not visible.
[19:34] <Captain_Haddock> pragmaticenigma: No option to set as a mass storage device, I'm afraid.
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> Captain_Haddock: what kind of computer brand is that?
[19:39] <Captain_Haddock> lotuspsychje: Computer brand?
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> Captain_Haddock: your gopro, you branch it to a computer?
[19:40] <Captain_Haddock> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure I understand. The gopro is a portable video camera. The computer is an assembled PC.
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> ok
[19:41] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: i'm here now (maybe not for long). what's up?
[19:41] <pragmaticenigma> Captain_Haddock: has the gopro worked with your ubuntu installation before
[19:41] <Captain_Haddock> pragmaticenigma: No.
[19:42] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: I'm still unable to access my gopro :(
[19:42] <tomreyn> via USB?
[19:42] <Captain_Haddock> Installing the exfat libs doesn't appear to have helped.
[19:42] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: yes.
[19:42] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: you're on 16.04.6, you said?
[19:42] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: 18.04.2
[19:43] <tomreyn> oh, ok. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1413440 discusses this and similar phenomenons
[19:43] <irrenhaus3> hi! if a package maintainer is present: bionic ships a broken version of the package libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0. It contains library version 2.0.2, which erroneously fails initialization for some music formats (i.e. OGG Vorbis). The regression is fixed in library version 2.0.3, as descrbed in the changelog on https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/. I recommend upgrading the package to that version
[19:43] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KrDVpJfBq2/
[19:43] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: did you suspend this system after you last rebooted?
[19:44] <yvyz> irrenhaus3: head over to #sdl and mention it
[19:44] <pragmaticenigma> irrenhaus3: It's best to file a bug report, pointing to that version as the fix for your issue. Ubuntu devs are not always monitoring this channel as it is run by volunteers
[19:44] <pragmaticenigma> !bug | irrenhaus3
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: I rebooted just now and I haven't suspended since.
[19:45] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: but the issue is still present?
[19:45] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: yes
[19:45] <irrenhaus3> pragmaticenigma: thanks, I didn't know about ubuntu-bug. very nice tool :>
[19:45] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: you could try the !HWE or !proposed kernel
[19:46] <pragmaticenigma> irrenhaus3: the bug tool should give you the link of the bug report where you can add the additional information about the patched version
[19:47] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: Will upgrading to 18.10 help?
[19:47] <irrenhaus3> pragmaticenigma: although it fails to report on that particular package, since it's third-party
[19:47] <Captain_Haddock> Or I'm guessing a 19.04 beta?
[19:47] <irrenhaus3> so I guess #SDL it is then
[19:47] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddock: alternatively, this bug report i pointed to above mentions the following kernel options as a workaround (confirmed by some, but not all of the people commenting there):  pci=nomsi iommu=soft
[19:47] <pragmaticenigma> irrenhaus3: you might have to report it via the other method. see the help url for options
[19:47] <tomreyn> Captain_Haddocki wouldn't upgrade if you can have the same kernel on an LTS release.
[19:48] <pragmaticenigma> Captain_Haddock: It's doubtful for your situation that an upgraded version is going to provide a different outcome.
[19:48] <Captain_Haddock> OK. I'll check out the kernel options too. Thanks :)
[19:49] <Captain_Haddock> pragmaticenigma: Any other suggestions?
[19:49] <irrenhaus3> pragmaticenigma: acknowledged, thank you
[19:50] <tomreyn> !hwe | Captain_Haddock read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters and this
[19:50] <tomreyn> !hwe
[19:50] <pragmaticenigma> Captain_Haddock: A high level websearch finds a lot of issues with gopros... not many solutions at this time
[19:51] <Captain_Haddock> tomreyn: Thank you!
[19:52] <Captain_Haddock> pragmaticenigma: Most seem to state that the issue autofixes itself :}
[19:52] <pragmaticenigma> I don't think that's the case Captain_Haddock ... more that something they weren't paying attention to resolved the issue
[19:55] <Captain_Haddock> :(
[19:55]  * Captain_Haddock reboots.
[20:08] <qwebirch5326> Can someone tell me what exactly the `~/foo/bar/baz $` part of a shell?
[20:08] <qwebirch5326> is called*
[20:09] <lordcirth__> qwebirch5326, the prompt?
[20:09] <qwebirch5326> The prefix
[20:10] <qwebirch5326> Does the word "prompt" cover all of it?
[20:10] <lordcirth__> The text that gets printed on the new line when you hit enter is called the prompt. Are you talking about only a part of that?
[20:10] <lordcirth__> Yes. by the way, the prompt is controlled by the variable $PS1
[20:10] <ioria> qwebirch5326, you mean PS1, PS2....etc. etc ?
[20:10] <qwebirch5326> Yeah, precisely
[20:10] <ioria> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bash/Prompt_customization#Prompts
[20:11] <qwebirch5326> There's no specific name for it?
[20:11] <qwebirch5326> I heard someone call it something unusual a long time ago, and I'm trying to figure out what he said
[20:11] <lordcirth__> Just the prompt, or PS1, afaik.
[20:11] <de-facto> how do i get a tools.jar for gradle? gradle build gives me "Could not find tools.jar. Please check that /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64 contains a valid JDK installation."
[20:12] <qwebirch5326> Like a specific name for PS1 that isn't PS1
[20:12] <qwebirch5326> and not prompt
[20:13] <JimBuntu> qwebirch5326, drifting kinda far outside of Ubuntu support here... but might they have referred to the information contained in the promt... perhaps they said current working directory?
[20:13] <qwebirch5326> Nope
[20:17] <JimBuntu> qwebirch5326, command line interface?
[20:18] <qwebirch5326> Nah. I might have misheard, you never know. Was one fairly unique word. Same feel as ex. "Pipe" or "prompt"
[20:18] <JimBuntu> qwebirch5326, Only other thing I can think of would be 'terminal'
[20:18] <fleabeard> hash bang?
[20:18] <fleabeard> lol
[20:19] <de-facto> nevermind java is just horrible software :/
[20:26] <Dr_hrb> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/alt.current-events.cia.crack-dealing/7LjPM2snMAE
[20:54] <sruli> something got corrupted in a dir, i can ls the dir with "sudo ls" i executed "sudo chown -R user:user dir" but still cannot access the contents without sure, ls the parent shows "d?????????  ? ?     ?      ?            ? dir" but "sudo ls parent_dir" shows "drwxrwxr-x  9 user user 39 Feb 14 11:42 dir" how do i fix this dir?
[20:54] <sruli> forgot to mention its encfs mount
[21:02] <sruli> i rebooted, dont know if anyone responded to my issue
[21:04] <mustmodify> I want to take an old netbook and turn it into a status board to show whether my clients' websites are up.
[21:04] <mustmodify> I have this tutorial: https://thepcspy.com/read/converting-ubuntu-desktop-to-kiosk/
[21:04] <Deihmos> can i add drivers to install disk for my wifi
[21:04] <mustmodify> and I saw this https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/secure-ubuntu-kiosk
[21:05] <mustmodify> I don't care about it being a 'secure' kiosk, but if it restarts for any reason, or has any trouble, I want it to automatically go back to the browser when possible so I don't have to fiddle with it.
[21:05] <mustmodify> Any particular recommendation?
[21:11] <Deihmos> i am trying to install using the debian install media but wifi driver is not there. is it possible to add them to the usb?
[21:12] <bray90820> How would I disable printer notifications on ubuntu 18.04
[21:12] <hggdh> Deihmos: we deal with Ubuntu only here. Try #debian
[21:12] <Deihmos> it is ubuntu
[21:13] <Deihmos> ubuntu also have the debian install method with the mino.iso
[21:13] <Deihmos> they call it the debian installer
[21:13] <Deihmos> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-from-cd.html.en
[21:17] <hggdh> Deihmos: you had said "debian installed media", not mini.iso. As far as I can remember, the mini.iso does not come with wireless. See, for example https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2281450
[21:23] <bray90820> How would I check to see if a program is running or not?
[21:24] <genii> bray90820: Use ps ?
[21:25] <bray90820> PS ehat
[21:45] <texla> Ubuntu 18.04 is there a way to install different wallpaper on different workspaces without having to use compiz
[22:16] <WilkinsMicawber> I'd like to clone my linux hard drive to a faster drive. Is this worth the potential headache/risk? I tried cloning my windows 10 drive and something about EIFI made it impossible
[22:17] <WilkinsMicawber> going to try to just clone it with Clonezilla, pop the old one out. Hope grub doesn't explode
[22:17] <WilkinsMicawber> like 99% of the shit i try to do in linux, it seems
[22:17] <ikla> how do you get to the console from GDM screen in 18?
[22:18] <ikla> ctrl-alt-fX doesn't work
[22:19] <zuhaitz> Hi, I bought 8bitdo N30 PRO gamepad, I installed it in Ubuntu 16.04 and it works perfect in retroarch and steam, but in another machine with Ubuntu Mate 18.10 it works in retroarch and in steam only in some games, not in all, could be the gnome-shell bluetooth app the reason? and blueman of ubuntu mate not working for all?
[22:19] <zuhaitz> Thanks...
[22:19] <zuhaitz> Am I asking in the right channel?
[22:19] <jeremy31> WilkinsMicawber: UEFI?
[22:20] <leftyfb> zuhaitz: if it works in some games and not others, the OS(ubuntu) isn't the issue
[22:20] <ikla> ubuntu 18 is painfully slow with integrated intel graphics
[22:20] <ikla> any way around this?
[22:20] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, but it works in Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome shell Bluetooth and not in Ubuntu Mate 18.10 with blueman...
[22:20] <leftyfb> ikla: there is no "ubuntu 18"
[22:21] <ikla> .04.2 :p
[22:21] <leftyfb> zuhaitz: you said it works in 18.10 but not for all games. That means it works in 18.10. Your issues with those other games/steam/retoarch
[22:22] <zuhaitz> Gnome Shell SUCKS with intel integrated graphics, Mac OS X had a PERFECT PERFORMANCE 10 years ago with slower hardware
[22:22] <zuhaitz> And I love gnome shell, but that is true
[22:22] <zuhaitz> My Acer VN7 works perfect with gnome shell, but my GPD Pocket sucks with Ubuntu Mate
[22:23] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, retroarchs works perfect in both machines with both ubuntu gnu/linux distros
[22:23] <zuhaitz> is steam
[22:23] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, maybe is the bluetooth?
[22:23] <zuhaitz> in ubuntu mate is blueman,in ubuntu is gnome shell one
[22:23] <zuhaitz> arent them using different drivers or .. something like fhat?
 My Acer VN7 works perfect with gnome shell, but my GPD Pocket sucks with gnome shell so I run Ubuntu Mate <---- correction
[22:24] <zuhaitz> ^^U
[22:25] <ikla> livecd the desktop is decent
[22:25] <ikla> installation on disk is slow for graphics
[22:26] <jeremy31> zuhaitz: you can install blueman in any version
[22:26] <zuhaitz> jeremy31, I know, but I cant run gnome-control-center in Ubuntu Mate, gives me core dump
[22:26] <zuhaitz> jeremy31, and gnome-control-center bluetooth works perfect for retroarch and steam, all steam games works perfect
[22:27] <WilkinsMicawber> i am literally gay
[22:27] <zuhaitz> but blueman in ubuntu mate works in retroarch (that rules) but in steam only in 50% of games
[22:27] <zuhaitz> it is ok to be gay, lasai
[22:27] <zuhaitz> xd
[22:29] <leftyfb> zuhaitz: you said it works in 18.10 but not for all games. That means it works in 18.10. Your issues with those other games/steam/retoarch. NOT ubuntu.
[22:30] <zuhaitz> for example I bought today "Owlboy", is a native GNULinux game in Steam, 8bitdo N30Pro works perfect in Ubuntu 16.04 (Gnome SHELL) but not in Steam under my small gpd pocket with Ubuntu Mate 18.10 (18.10 is the iso for this machine to work OK). I cant use a configuration that emules keyboard and mouse in steam, but it sucks a lot, the native configuration as gamepad in ubuntu gnome shell 16.04 works peeerfect xD
[22:30] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, are you sure?
[22:31] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, is not posible that ubuntu 16.04 with gnome bluetooth make another kind of configuration for the device?
[22:31] <zuhaitz> different of ubuntu 18.10 one under ubuntu mate / blueman?
[22:31] <zuhaitz> I am ignorant... really
[22:32] <jeremy31> zuhaitz: not likely that a different config would be used as Bluez reads info directly from the device to see what bluetooth protocols are supported
[22:33] <zuhaitz> ok, so what can I do?
[22:33] <zuhaitz> Ubuntu GNU / Linux + Steam in both machines
[22:34] <zuhaitz> In one works perfect, in the other, only un the 50% of games as gamepad (un the other 50% can emulate keyboard+mouse but it sucks a litle xD)
[22:35] <zuhaitz> * Cannot join #steam (Channel is invite only)
[22:35] <zuhaitz> ¬_¬U
[22:35] <leftyfb> zuhaitz: contact #freenode for help with that
[22:36] <zuhaitz> This is not freenode? XD
[22:36] <zuhaitz> WTF? XD
[22:36] <zuhaitz> Ok, the channel
[22:37] <Furycd001> Steam does not have an official public channel on freenode. You can always try #steamdb
[22:38] <jeremy31> Steam might be on snoonet
[22:39] <Deihmos> There is something about 18.10 that y laptop does not like
[22:39] <Furycd001> HI. I just installed fonts-font-awesome with apt-get on Ubuntu 16.04.06, but nothing is showing under font-awesome inside character map. All the squares are either blank or show a funny error looking symbol. Please help.. I'm just looking to add some font-awesome icons into my conky config....
[22:43] <black_mamba> is there a way to see the progress while using cp? -v doesn't give that information it seems. I have a large 100gb file to move
[22:46] <FreeBDSM> is there a way to limit an /etc/apt/sources.list.d/file.list to 1 architecture?
[22:46] <FreeBDSM> I want apt to not throw me this fit: N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian bionic InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'
[22:46] <leftyfb> black_mamba: use rsync
[22:47] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: apt should only install packages for your arch
[22:47] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: you'll want to contact Oracle for support with their packages
[22:48] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: I know, it just shows this note every time upon apt update, because oracle dropped support of 32-bit arch
[22:48] <leftyfb> remove the repo
[22:48] <FreeBDSM> okay, so the answer is no, I can't do anything about that on client side
[22:48] <FreeBDSM> okay
[22:49] <FreeBDSM> thx for the info
[23:04] <rheya13> I've installed a PCI express dial up modem that "supposedly" works in Linux, based on user reviews.  I can see it with LSPCI, but I don't know what device it is in /dev in order to give that info to efax-gtk
[23:04] <rheya13> How do I figure out what in /dev a device is linked to?
[23:04] <rheya13> efax-gtk defaults to I think ttyS0 which is, I think, a serial connection, and I believe that's the USB to RJ45 serial adapter that is running to my UPS.
[23:10] <tgm4883> leftyfb: he left, but you can tell apt to specify an arch in your sources.list
[23:11] <tgm4883> leftyfb: eg. deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main universe
[23:25] <baako> hi guys, anyone has a direct line to download ubuntu 16.04?
[23:27] <hggdh> baako: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[23:27] <leftyfb> tgm4883: sure, but I don't think that would have helped him
[23:27] <compdoc> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.6-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:27] <rheya13> So I ran ls -1 /dev and exported it to a file with the modem installed, then did it again, to a different file, with the modem removed, and there was no changes.
[23:28] <rheya13> However, the modem is indeed detected and listed when I run lspci because it was missing when I removed it, and present again now that I've reinstalled it.
[23:31] <rheya13> Also, I have added myself to the "dialout" group.
[23:34] <pragmaticenigma> rheya13: Were you being helped in a different channel? if not, I think you might want to give some background on what you're doing
[23:36] <rheya13> pragmaticenigma: I had posted a few messages earlier, but rebooted a time or two since then.  I purchased a "US Robotics" dial up modem, PCI interface, that, according to user reviews, works in Linux.  I intend to use it to send faxes.
[23:36] <rheya13> It is listed when I run lspci, but I'm not sure what it is in /dev so I can tell efax-gtk.
[23:38] <rheya13> It defaults to /dev/ttyS1, which doesn't function at all.  It seems like it wants to respond with ttyS0, but I "think" ttyS0 is a serial connector, the USB to RJ45 serial adapter that goes to my UPS, because although efax-gtk picks it up and attempts to use it, it says, "No response from modem".
[23:38] <zuhaitz> Hi, I bought 8bitdo N30 PRO gamepad, I installed it in Ubuntu 16.04 and it works perfect in retroarch and steam, but in another machine with Ubuntu Mate 18.10 it works in retroarch and in steam only in some games, not in all, could be the gnome-shell bluetooth app the reason? and blueman of ubuntu mate not working for all?
[23:39] <Deihmos> installed ubuntu on my optimus laptop and installed the drivers. doesn't ubuntu auto switch video cards ? i notice it will use the nvidia card even when i use battery
[23:39] <zuhaitz> Steam is the same build on both machines, one is Ubuntu 16.04 and the other 18.10, in the first all is working OK, in the second in steam only works the 50% of games
[23:39] <zuhaitz> Any idea?
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> Deihmos: Linux currently has limited support for machines that have that capability
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> Deihmos: Typically, which card is started with Ubuntu, is the one it will remain running on
[23:40] <Deihmos> yep i figured
[23:40] <Deihmos> and to switch i have to log out
[23:41] <Deihmos> a lot better than how it works on debian though. that was a nightmare
[23:44] <pragmaticenigma> Deihmos: there are some tools that offer the ability to switch in session; however, they are not very reliable and are still works in progress
[23:45] <pragmaticenigma> rheya13: If the device is not appearing in /dev ... then I'd assume there might be some drivers missing. 56k modems aren't very common and the drivers for such a device may require an explicate install from apt
[23:45] <pragmaticenigma> rheya13: I found this page which might help you determine where the device is using dmesg: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1161217&seqNum=9
[23:46] <rheya13> pragmaticenigma: That's what I was afraid of.  I did some searching around and found a page on the Ubuntu wiki detailing drivers, but this one apparently has a "Conexant" chipset, and drivers for them are A) proprietary and B) hard to find in Linux.
[23:46] <Deihmos> what is a 56k modem?
[23:46] <rheya13> rheya13: Thanks, I'll take a look, :-)
[23:46] <rheya13> pragmaticenigma: Thanks, I'll take a look
[23:47] <pragmaticenigma> Deihmos: questions like that are best found doing a web search try: google.com or duck.com
[23:47] <Deihmos> i know what it is. they have been extinct for years
[23:48] <rheya13> Sadly, we deal with certain places around here, like the social security office, that don't deal in email, it's either haul paperwork down there in person, send it through the snail mail, or fax it.
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: It is doubtful that the limited support has to do with the GUI bluetooth manager. They both would talk to a backend that is responsible for managing the devices and connectivity
[23:48] <rheya13> Anyway, I'm getting off the topic of this channel, I'm off to read.
[23:49] <pragmaticenigma> Deihmos: It's best to keep non-support related stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:50] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: You might need to search around steam forums to see if other users have experienced similar behaviors and how they might have resolved them.
[23:51] <zuhaitz> pragmaticenigma, but the steam client is the same build on both machines... how is it posible ? I dont get it :/
[23:52] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: The steam build might be the same, but the supporting libraries for the Bluetooth are not
[23:52] <zuhaitz> pragmaticenigma, but that libraries are then part of ubuntu distro, right?
[23:52] <zuhaitz> I dont want to annoy, believe me xD
[23:52] <zuhaitz> Im an ignorant
[23:53] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: Bluetooth support has always been spotty in all Linux distros. What works in one distro doesn't in another, and sometimes between the versions of the drivers regression issues come up
[23:54] <jeremy31> zuhaitz: I am pretty good with bluetooth issues but I don't have any bluetooth game controllers
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: searching the web with the term "bluetooth controller ubuntu steam" shows a lot of various pages with people experiencing issues and how they resolved them. If it were me, I'd stick with the platform that works best for your needs.
[23:57] <zuhaitz> pragmaticenigma, but this gamepad is working perfectly with Ubuntu GNU Linux 16.04 (this machine) but not in GPD Pocket with Ubuntu Mate 18.10, and in this machine that version is the one for good performance... :/
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: If you attempt to use any of the advice online, make sure to back up your system (use something like clonezilla) so if things go sideways you can recover
[23:57] <zuhaitz> XD
[23:57] <zuhaitz> recover my brain
[23:58] <zuhaitz> what advice?
[23:59] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: from your searching websites for help
[23:59] <jeremy31> zuhaitz: so it worked on a computer but not on a PDA/phone, whatever the GPD pocket is?