[00:00] <zuhaitz> GPD is a small PC
[00:00] <zuhaitz> 64 bits small PC
[00:01] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: I don't believe your issue has anything to do with Ubuntu versions or steam. You likely have two different Bluetooth chipsets between your computers. One that is better supported in Linux, and one that isn't
[00:02] <zuhaitz> pragmaticenigma, and any idea for a manual solution?
[00:02] <jeremy31> zuhaitz: likely totally different bluetooth devices, the bluetooth in the GPD might be partially unsupported in the kernel
[00:03] <zuhaitz> jeremy31, it is working perfect with retroarch, some steam games, too, and the rest if I configure it as a keyboard/mouse emulation
[00:04] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: about the only thing I can think of is to install the same version of Ubuntu on the Pocket computer and see if you find it has better support. If it doesn't, then it is clearly a fault of the Bluetooth hardware in that computer.
[00:04] <zuhaitz> pragmaticenigma, Ubuntu Mate 18.10 is an official ISO for GPD Pocket...
[00:04] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: right now you are effectively comparing an apple to an orange. Two different computers, running two different versions of an operating system, running two different flavors of said operating system.
[00:05] <zuhaitz> Ok, I understand
[00:05] <zuhaitz> is posible to make a downgrade? xD
[00:05] <zuhaitz> is it*
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: there is no command to downgrade, you would have to download the 16.04 image, and install it to the machine like a fresh install. Note that doing so may lose support for other features of the computer that the manufacture may have included in the Ubuntu version that they preinstalled for you
[00:08] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: Before you do anything, I would highly suggest that you back up that machine.
[00:09] <zuhaitz> I am using gnu linux for 20 years (debian and now ubuntu), I dont care if I have to install and reinstall / partition, thanks
[00:09] <zuhaitz> But to be honest, I would like a solution with 18.10 XD
[00:10] <leftyfb> zuhaitz: what part of this aren't you getting? If your bluetooth device works for SOME games in Ubuntu 18.10 but not others. Then that means your bluetooth device WORKS. Period. The issue is with those other games and their config. Or Steam or Retroarch. Not Ubuntu. Not the device. And not any bluetooth settings.
[00:11] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, Retroarch works 100%... Steam is the same version in both machines
[00:11] <zuhaitz> That is what I dont get
[00:11] <leftyfb> great. That doesn't change the facts.
[00:11] <zuhaitz> Same build of Steam and same game version
[00:11] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, then I dont get it :)
[00:12] <zuhaitz> Should I? I am journalist, not a programmer
[00:12] <zuhaitz> xD
[00:26] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, pragmaticenigma , I made rm -rf .steam*
[00:27] <zuhaitz> I reinstalled games... and 100% of them are working
[00:27] <zuhaitz> I am happy
[00:27] <leftyfb> so what does that tell you?
[00:27] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, That I made a bad manual configuration in Steam in the GPD Pocket
[00:27] <zuhaitz> and that I let Steam make an automatic configuration in the Acer VN7 laptop
[00:27] <zuhaitz> both Ubuntu GNU Linux machines with Steam
[00:27] <zuhaitz> XD
[00:28] <zuhaitz> I was getting mad... now it makes sense
[00:28] <zuhaitz> to be honest I tried to make a manual configuration in the litle machine XD
[00:28] <zuhaitz> leftyfb, thanks for your patientness
[00:29] <leftyfb> patience
[00:29] <Sleaker> not native english speaker ;)
[00:30] <zuhaitz> Basque and castilian native speaker, I studied english when I was child XD
[00:32] <pragmaticenigma> zuhaitz: please keep to support related topics, for chat and discussions please head over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:33] <zuhaitz> :?
[00:34] <zuhaitz> pragmaticenigma, is the BASQUE word the problem? XD
[00:34] <zuhaitz> it use to be
[00:34] <zuhaitz> and that really sucks
[00:34] <zuhaitz> well, anyway, thanks for your ... patientness XD
[00:52] <adikwok> please help, my ubuntu 18.04.2 sound is missing. i can not hear any sound from speaker of headset
[00:52] <adikwok> i need the sound .please
[00:55] <adikwok> i can not move the sound volume from the setting either. there is no speaker logo. only mic. and light
[00:56] <Sleaker> adikwok: usually that happens when the system doesn't detect any sound device.
[00:56] <Sleaker> output device specifically*
[00:58] <adikwok> Sleaker: how to fix that?
[01:02] <pragmaticenigma> Sleaker: Have you rebooted your machine lately? have you made any changes? when was the last time sound worked?
[01:03] <adikwok> pragmaticenigma: yes. i rebooted several times. yesterday evening still fine. sound and pulse-effect went ok
[01:04] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: what did you change since it was last working?
[01:04] <adikwok> pragmaticenigma: i did not remember. just install re-install gdm3. lxde-core
[01:05] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: and why did you do that?
[01:05] <adikwok> try to minimize ram usage at startup
[01:06] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: So you uninstalled two of core components of your system and are now wondering why your sound doesn't work?
[01:07] <adikwok> pragmaticenigma: i install and re-install those two
[01:07] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: That doesn't take into consideration the dependencies that go with them.
[01:08] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: When you uninstall things like gdm3 and lxde-core, there are other modules that have those flagged as parent dependencies. If they are removed, software marked as dependent on them also gets removed
[01:08] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: Try installing pulseaudio... if that doesn't resolve your issue, then you are probably looking at installing Lubuntu from scratch.
[01:09] <adikwok> pragmaticenigma: ok i re-installing pulseaudio
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: or restore your back-up image of your computer that you made before starting this experiment.
[01:09] <Tin_man> adikwok, if you have good backups, might be better to just reinstall.
[01:10] <adikwok> Tin_man: i have backup but dont know how to restore. i did backup with rsync
[01:10] <Tin_man> not familiar with resync..
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: rsync is not a backup too
[01:12] <pragmaticenigma> tool
[01:12] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: when talking about making a backup, we're talking about you having made a backup disk image of your computer using a tool like clonezilla
[01:13] <adikwok> pragmaticenigma: i never did with clonezilla or others
[01:13] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: Then you have no backup
[01:13] <adikwok> pragmaticenigma: :[
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: which is unfortunate... if installing pulseaudio doesn't resolve your issue, you will have to install from scratch
[01:14] <adikwok> when i use qpaeq. here is the error message:
[01:14] <adikwok> QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-adi'
[01:14] <adikwok> There was an error connecting to pulseaudio, please make sure you have the pulseaudio dbus module loaded, exiting...
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: Next time you want to test performance enhancements, do it on a unimportant computer or a virtual machine. Also, learn how to make real backups of your computer and how to restore them
[01:15] <adikwok> pragmaticenigma: real backup - real restore . main project to learn
[01:16] <pragmaticenigma> adikwok: that message means your system is gone... time to install from scratch... move your personal files somewhere safe and start over
[01:17] <adikwok> pragmaticenigma: ok. thx for the advise.
[01:19] <jdownie> I'm running stock Ubuntu and wondering if there is a way to display the output from a command in a dock icon.
[01:20] <jdownie> I used to be able to do that in XFCE to show how my git repos were going - to remind me to commit/push.
[01:20] <jdownie> any tips would be appreciated.
[01:21] <pragmaticenigma> jdownie: You'll have to better describe what it is you're trying to acomplish... dock icons are not "live"
[01:21] <jdownie> Oh, well you probably just answered my question, i'm hoping there is a way to show some simple text like "P: 3" on my display all the time.
[01:22] <jdownie> that would tell me that three files have been modified in my "Personal" repo.
[01:22] <jdownie> i have a shell script that will give that output.
[01:22] <jdownie> i was picturing something on the dock that would run the script every five minutes or so.
[01:23] <xiaxiaoyu12138> hello?
[01:23] <jdownie> xiaxiaoyu12138: hi
[01:25] <pragmaticenigma> jdownie: Conkie (I think that's the name) can do overlays on the desktop of system stats... I'm sure it's possible to add a module for that
[01:28] <jdownie> oooh, that's what i was hoping to learn. thanks for that.
[01:28] <rfm> jdownie: you might try notify-send command, might be too visually noisy for what you want tho
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> jdownie: I was close, it's conky
[01:30] <jdownie> rfm: thanks, i'm reading up on that one now too.
[01:31] <jdownie> pragmaticenigma: yeah, found it. not in the software app though.
[01:40] <xiaxiaoyu12138> WB WB WB WB
[01:40] <jdownie> conky looks cool, but i'm interested in notify-send with a keyboard shortcut too.
[01:40] <jdownie> thankyou both for your help!
[02:13] <throwUP> Need some help setting up a LAMP stack
[02:13] <throwUP> I can't get the default database for mysql to initialize
[02:13] <throwUP> using ubuntu 16.04
[02:14] <pragmaticenigma> throwUP: what do you mean by default database to initialize?
[02:16] <throwUP> the database directory structure
[02:16] <throwUP> mysqld --initialize doesn't seem to work
[02:16] <pragmaticenigma> throwUP: Are you installing mysql from apt or some other source?
[02:17] <throwUP> yes from apt
[02:17] <pragmaticenigma> there is nothing to intialize... mysqld is installed as a system service
[02:17] <throwUP> I get Errcode: 17 - File Exists
[02:17] <throwUP> ooooh
[02:17] <pragmaticenigma> throwUP: what instructions are you following?
[02:18] <throwUP> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[02:18] <throwUP> i think it's a bit outdated
[02:19] <pragmaticenigma> considering you're using ubuntu 16.04... yeah... not the right version. also those instructions are for digital oceans' droplets ... not a standalone ubuntu instance
[02:21] <throwUP> It's on a droplet
[02:21] <throwUP> should i start over with a more current ubuntu version?
[02:22] <pragmaticenigma> throwUP: Then this isn't the place for support. digital ocean provides a non-standard version of Ubuntu. since documentation availble to the volunteers here comes from Canonical, it's hard to support that platform
[02:24] <pragmaticenigma> throwUP: Also, up your web searching game... https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-16-04
[02:24] <pragmaticenigma> was first result when searching "Ubuntu LAMP 16.04"
[02:24] <throwUP> jesus..
[02:53] <xiaxiaoyu12138> /me
[02:54] <ArchDebian> I have an Optimus Laptop (a laptop with 2 video cards: Intel & Nvidia). Is a good idea to install Bumblebee and switch between the cards, or is better just install nvidia drivers and only use this video card?
[02:55] <eater9> Hi, last time I was in here I had a problem with my root filesystem randomly remounting itself read-only, and I promised to get a dmesg log next time it happened. Voila but I'm not sure there are any insights http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xDP2RK5xm8/
[02:58] <eater9> and here's the SMART report http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8RzdbPgmk8/
[03:05] <Muligan> hey fellas
[03:06] <Muligan> i'm using a live usb of 18.04, and i'm trying to see about flashing a sas drive's firmware
[03:06] <Muligan> anybody have an idea of how to list the sas HBA?
[03:06] <Muligan> or even the drive at that...
[03:08] <Muligan> i'm seeing the HBA via lspci
[03:08] <Muligan> but no drive
[03:12] <Muligan> fek
[03:43] <[RobDude]> When I try to ping my Windows PC from Ubuntu I get the follow error:  'ping: myOtherPc: System error' but if I ping any other random name, it will output 'ping: asdfasdf: Name or service not known'.  My Windows Pc is up and running and I've completely disabled the firewall.  I did install winbind and edit my /etc/nsswitch.conf file - can anyone tell me what I have done wrong?
[03:52] <yvyz> eater9: looks like your file system is corrupted. or some part of it.
[03:52] <yvyz> eater9: check lines 1604 -> 1607 in the log you posted
[03:53] <yvyz> EXT4-fs atempts to mount the FS, the FS is corrupted, and so EXT4-fs mounts the file system read-only
[03:53] <eater9> Yeah, that's the moment when it goes bad, but I'm trying to figure out why
[03:54] <eater9> Before that it was running for a week with no problems
[03:54] <yvyz> eater9: somethin is wrong with your file system.
[03:54] <yvyz> eater9: things can break
[03:54] <yvyz> ArchDebian: I am assuming all laptop screen graphics are piped via the Intel on-board GPU and the nividia card is used for external display.
[03:55] <eater9> Any thoughts on how I can figure out what's causing the issue?
[03:55] <yvyz> ArchDebian: you could go either way, but installing the nvidia driver directly would at least be a good start.
[03:55] <ArchDebian> yvyz: thank you I'll install only the nvidia driver
[03:56] <yvyz> eater9: looks like the file that sits across the 82786420 block is corrupted.
[03:57] <yvyz> eater9: or better, the file with inode# 9311347 is your issue
[03:57] <yvyz> eater9: if you can boot a live usb, and mount the drive, you may be able to delete that corrupted file
[03:59] <eater9> That is just a file that I was downloading at the moment the error happened, but it doesn't explain why the error happened
[03:59] <yvyz> Muligan: Have you verified your BIOS configs are in fact configured to allow SAS drives?
[04:00] <eater9> And why it keeps happening
[04:01] <yvyz> eater9: https://askubuntu.com/a/59077
[04:01] <eater9> It happens with different hard drives though
[04:01] <eater9> So I don't think it's a problem with the drive
[04:03] <yvyz> Maybe don't download that file anymore?
[04:04] <eater9> There isn't any particular behavior or file that I can figure out as the cause of the filesystem becoming RO
[04:05] <yvyz> Your disk controller could be going bad.
[04:07] <eater9> How would I diagnose whether that is the issue?
[04:08] <eater9> I don't see any obvious problems in the SMART data
[04:08] <yvyz> Well its a possibility. But you said its happening on different drives.
[04:08] <yvyz> And I assumed you just swapped the drives out withint he same machine
[04:08] <yvyz> Hense the common denominator would be your disk controller.
[04:10] <eater9> Yes
[04:11] <yvyz> eater9: have you run fsck to attempt to repai
[04:11] <yvyz> repair* ?
[04:12] <eater9> Yes, after this happens I can't boot without repairing
[04:15] <yvyz> I would bet that its a dying hdd
[04:15] <yvyz> Is it an SDD?
[04:15] <yvyz> SSD*
[04:15] <eater9> Yes, two different new SSDs
[04:16] <eater9> on a pretty new but out of warranty thinkpad
[04:28] <eater9> good night for now
[04:42] <Jordan_U> eater9: Were both ssds using the same cable?
[04:49] <Muligan> yvyz, BIOS on the HBA has been completely wiped
[04:50] <Muligan> i did this for my FreeNAS boxes...
[04:50] <yvyz> Hmm...
[04:50] <Muligan> the other server that has a H200 detects the drive under FreeNAS/FBSD, however, does not assign it a /dev
[04:50] <Muligan> it only shows 'PASS8' next to the drive under FreeNAS
[04:50] <Muligan> i've another identical drive in the same system that passes, which is currently getting 0'd out
[04:51] <Muligan> however, it has a step-up in firmware that's already been laoded on it
[04:52] <Muligan> thus I moved the drive to this box
[04:52] <Muligan> however...
[04:52] <yvyz> lspci shows it
[04:52] <yvyz> yea?
[04:53] <Muligan> I've had issues w/these sets of drives attached directly via cable from the HBA
[04:53] <Muligan> so tomorrow, I'm going to down one of my esxi hosts in my dev setup, and attach it via the backplane to one of my poweredge R510's
[04:53] <Muligan> show's the HBA, yes
[04:54] <yvyz> Muligan: Whats the HBA make/model?
[04:55] <Muligan> but no drive, which I don't believe lspci will show in the 1st place
[04:55] <Muligan> either a Dell H200 or H310
[04:55] <Muligan> I've the H310 directly attached via cable on my t20 at home here
[04:55] <Muligan> which I'm sure won't show up
[04:55] <Muligan> but at work, (dev enviroment), it's tied to a H200
[04:55] <Muligan> and through the backplane
[05:28] <yvyz> Wonder if ubuntu needs the driver for it.
[05:53] <nisstyre> Hi, how does one build a customized version of an official ubuntu package? (similar to the Arch Build System on Arch Linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System ). There is a library that I want to apply a patch to. Before anyone asks yes I know what I am doing.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> nisstyre: we reccomend to use the existing packages from the official repos first instead of own compile
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> nisstyre: what is it your trying to make & why?
[05:59] <nisstyre> lotuspsychje: it's a patch for gtk3 that hasn't been released yet that fixes an issue I encountered while trying to build some Haskell software https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/commit/95c0f07295fd300ab7f3416a39290ae33585ea6c
[05:59] <nisstyre> it will be released eventually but just got fixed
[05:59] <nisstyre> all it does is expose some functions
[06:01] <nisstyre> there's a bug report here https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121456
[06:01] <nisstyre> anyway, I tested it before and it fixes the issue. I just don't know how to build a custom deb or whatever on Ubuntu
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> nisstyre: just an idea, maybe talk to the #ubuntu-devel guys about it, they might be interested in your solution
[06:02] <nisstyre> Well, it's already been merged into gtk3, just hasn't been released yet but could be backported I guess
[06:02] <nisstyre> I guess I can mention it in there as well
[06:02] <nisstyre> it's a very simple 2 line patch
[06:04] <yvyz> nisstyre: dpkg-deb --build
[06:04] <yvyz> nisstyre: or use checkinstall
[06:05] <nisstyre> yvyz: cool, I'll try that, thanks
[06:05] <yvyz> nisstyre: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[06:28] <nisstyre> lotuspsychje: found a workaround that doesn't require rebuilding it but I'll definitely try contacting the maintainer to see if they can patch the fix in if they haven't already
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> great nisstyre and thank you for submitting this to the community
[06:59] <shrimp> hi guys - i'm trying to make partitions for a new ubuntu installation and i have about a terabyte of free space to work with, how much space goes in which partition? i was reading that you probably want a swap partition about the size of your RAM but i don't know if the rest of the free space should just be thrown in root or if i should make other stuff as well
[07:00] <JimBuntu> shrimp, there is a lot of choices to be had with this. It used to be that swap partitions were suggested to be 2x the RAM, now 1x or less is often suggested.
[07:01] <shrimp> i got that far, yeah
[07:01] <JimBuntu> As far as making many small partitions, that's really up to you. My preference, a large partition for long term storage and the rest basically for '/'... reduces the chance of running out of space/etc. I also prefer if /boot is kinda bigger than normal
[07:05] <AC3J> A swap partition is no longer necessary, a swapfile will be used instead. I just use / and /home partitions
[07:05] <yvyz> ^
[07:06] <shrimp> how big should each respective partition be, given that i have 1tb of free space then?
[07:07] <AC3J> I did 40GB for /, it's overkill but I have the space...
[07:08] <shrimp> and i'm assuming the rest go into the /home partition, correct?
[07:08] <AC3J> yes rest in /home
[07:09] <shrimp> ok thank you
[07:11] <arifsani> hai
[07:11] <nisstyre> JimBuntu: I never use swap personally because it can cause performance issues and as mentioned you can just use a swap file if you really need one
[07:11] <nisstyre> the linux OOM killer will kill processes that run amok usually
[07:12] <JimBuntu> nisstyre, yeah, partition or file, they are treated pretty equally now.  As far as the need of swap in general, I think that really depends on your workflow/programs.
[07:13] <nisstyre> yeah true, I guess some people might benefit from it if you're doing things like video editing
[07:33] <{bosco}> what happened to wubi ? running windows and want to install ubuntu 18xx
[07:34] <nakamaki> officially its provided up until 14.04 lts afaik {bosco}
[07:35] <{bosco}> nakamaki: so how do i install ubuntu via windows ?
[07:35] <geirha> !wubi
[07:35] <nakamaki> why do you explicitely want that?
[07:35] <ratata> If i have a bash script with this; file_name=$(data +%Y-%m-%d)            tar -cf bkp.$file_name.tar.gz $1 and i start the script with ./scriptname.sh /home.
[07:35] <nakamaki> just download an iso, make a usb stick and install it from there
[07:35] <ratata> why would i get an error?
[07:36] <{bosco}> nakamaki: just dont have a usb stick with jme or else i would lol
[07:36] <geirha> ratata: you mistyped date
[07:36] <nakamaki> lol okay
[07:36] <ratata> yeah i see that now, its not an exact copy of the script
[07:36] <ratata> its the tar part thats not working
[07:36] <geirha> and you need a command terminator between the file_name assignment and the tar command
[07:37] <ratata> command terminator?
[07:37] <ratata> its the $1 that is not working
[07:37] <geirha> ratata: tar will not automatically compress it with gzip just because you include .gz as extension to the destination file name. You can add -z for that though
[07:37] <nakamaki> you could partition your hdd and then write your install image to the new partition with unetbootin and reboot. then start the unetbootin from the bootloader and install from there
[07:37] <ratata> Thank you!
[07:37] <geirha> ratata: and $1 should be "$1", with quotes. Or "$@" if you want to support adding multiple files/directories
[07:38] <geirha> so  tar -zcf "bkp.$(date +%Y-%m-%d).tar.gz" "$@"
[07:39] <ratata> Thank you for the clarification
[07:42] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone. I just installed ubuntu 18.04 on my very new very powerful clevo p870tm. I am not that new to ubuntu but am coming back to it after a bit. I need to find out what hardware has missing drivers. How to do that ?
[08:10] <farsight> ???????
[08:12] <tomreyn> farsight: do you have a question?
[08:12] <tomreyn> or 7?
[08:12] <neure> hi
[08:12] <neure> how can i make the login screen to show up as mirrored on all displays?
[08:12] <tomreyn> hi neure
[08:13] <neure> it is really weird that this is not the case by default
[08:13] <neure> I have laptop connected to extranal display and it is not great that I have to use the laptop display to login while everything else i do on the external display
[08:13] <neure> ideally login should be visible on all displays
[08:16] <tomreyn> neure: you should probably tell which ubuntu version + login manager you're referring to.
[08:16] <neure> 18.10 but it was the same with 18.04 as well
[08:17] <neure> whatever is the default login manage
[08:18] <tomreyn> that'd be gdm then
[08:19] <tomreyn> looks like this is bug 1760849
[08:19] <da7niel> hey question: I've downloaded a package online because apt doesn't have an up to date version, but I'm not sure how to set it up so that it works with command line as if I had simply used apt.
[08:20] <da7niel> I've tried resolving all the dependency issues by copying over the necessary files to /usr/lib, /usr/bin, etc, piece by piece, but there has to be a better way
[08:23] <neure> ah
[08:23] <neure> I just filed a duplicate :P
[08:24] <neure> How can I mark my bug as duplicate?
[08:24] <neure> done..
[08:24] <geirha> da7niel: you shouldn't put anything in /usr/lib or /usr/bin, only apt should do that. Install custom software in /usr/local or /opt
[08:25] <da7niel> geirha: okay, thanks for the tip
[08:34] <tomreyn> !latest | da7niel
[08:34] <tomreyn> ^ just in case you're new to ubuntu
[08:45] <Sirisian> I plugged Ubuntu up to my TV and I can't use any resolution other than 3840x2160. I ran xrandr and it says: Screen 0: minimum 3840 x 2160, current 3840 x 2160, maximum 3840 x 2160, so it's locked at 3840x2160 min and max. I can add extra resolutions into xorg and it loads the modes, but throws them out I assume since they're outside of the minimum. Is this normal?
[09:48] <Holo> My computer can not boot from the ubuntu installer usb so I installed ubuntu onto an external drive. The computer that could not boot from the installer usb has booted from the external drive. how would I install ubuntu to the internal drive?
[09:49] <tarzeau> Holo: insert the external disk into it?
[09:49] <tarzeau> Holo: or take the internal out, make it external, and re-insert it?
[09:49] <tarzeau> i had the same problem with a machine, we use ipxe/pxe/network install with preseeding
[09:50] <Holo> tarzeau the eternal is the failing SSD that has some bad lockups
[09:50] <tarzeau> throw it away then, and get one that's not locking up/failing
[09:50] <Holo> there really is not an easy way to run the CLI server installer from a running ubuntu one?
[09:50] <tarzeau> ah well yes there is
[09:50] <Holo> Im about to, I just need to get ubuntu installed to the internal drive
[09:50] <tarzeau> debootstrap way, google it
[09:51] <tarzeau> you can install linux from one media to another.
[09:51] <tarzeau> it's even possible for one arch to another..
[09:51] <tarzeau> it works. but it's not with the menu you get the installer with
[09:51] <Holo> rip the nice easy server menu installer
[09:52] <Holo> I was hoping to be able to run that again
[09:52] <tarzeau> the server menu installer? is a debian product, isn't it?
[09:52] <tarzeau> ubuntu has it not anymore?
[09:52] <Anticom> Hey guys. I'm on xenial and just ran my daily routine of upgrading the system. However apt upgrade got stuck. Looking at htop it says it's currently running /bin/sh /usr/sbin/update-secureboot-policy --enroll-key
[09:52] <Anticom> And i don't just wanna kill it. What to do?
[09:54] <tarzeau> Anticom: check the logs? /var/log/ dpkg/ or syslog or so?
[09:55] <Anticom> tarzeau: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xkDgJbF69q/
[09:55] <Anticom> "Kernel is locked down from EFI secure boot" doesn't sound too pleasing
[09:56] <tarzeau> no idea, i turn off that crap from bios and use unsigned linux kernels
[09:56] <tarzeau> i'd suggest anyone else to do the same
[09:56] <tarzeau> type that see command in a shell, and read on
[09:56] <Anticom> i prefer not to disable secure boot tbh
[09:56] <tarzeau> Anticom: why?
[09:57] <Anticom> well first because it never failed on me before and second as far as i understand the concepts it ensures my kernel doesn't get tinkered with
[09:57] <tarzeau> do you think your stuff is more secure with it? can other people physically access the computer?
[09:57] <tarzeau> the google is full of people with that failing
[09:58] <tarzeau> if you're the only one with keyboard access to it, don't worry
[09:58] <tarzeau> https://lwn.net/Articles/736910/
[09:58] <Anticom> tarzeau: it's my personal computer, so it's unlikely others get physical access to it
[09:58] <tarzeau> if security was an issue, you wouldn't use ubuntu, or linux i guess
[09:58] <tarzeau> so no worries
[09:58] <tarzeau> are you using encrypted filesystems?
[09:59] <Anticom> not atm
[09:59] <Anticom> also i get your point but can we work on solving my issue first please?
[10:00] <Holo> is ubiquity still used?
[10:00] <Anticom> Holo: sure you don't mean unity?
[10:01] <tarzeau> unity the 3d software or unity the ubuntu desktop software?
[10:01] <tarzeau> Anticom: i'm sure he means ubiquity
[10:01] <Anticom> Holo: nvm
[10:01] <tomreyn> tarzeau: ubiquity is the ubuntu desktop installer
[10:01] <tarzeau> Ubuntu live CD installer ah the gui thing
[10:01] <tomreyn> Holo: ubiquity is still in use
[10:01] <tarzeau> tomreyn: not so, when you use the command line version, or preseeding
[10:01] <tarzeau> tomreyn: then it's the debian version
[10:02] <tarzeau> he's saying CLI, not gui version
[10:02] <tarzeau> +was
[10:02] <tomreyn> tarzeau: the alternative server installer and mini.iso still use the debian installer, yes
[10:02] <tarzeau> tomreyn: also the desktop one, in non-gui mode
[10:02] <Holo> I am indeed looking at the cli for server
[10:02] <tomreyn> tarzeau: i'm not aware of this option
[10:02] <Holo> well desktop cli should still work
[10:02] <tarzeau> tomreyn: ah maybe the removed it, haven't used interactive installer for 15 years
[10:03] <Holo> I just really dont feel like doing it manualy
[10:03] <tomreyn> Holo: what are you trying to do, whats' the issues you're facing, if any?
[10:04] <Holo> tomreyn I cant boot to the live server from a USB Drive on this older pc
[10:04] <tomreyn> Holo: and the error message is?
[10:04] <Holo> said older pc does use 32bit UEFI
[10:04] <Holo> boot device not found
[10:04] <Anticom> So can i just kill the upgrade and run it again or what am i supposed to do?
[10:04] <tomreyn> uuh, 32-bit uefi is not fun.
[10:05] <tarzeau> Anticom: yes
[10:05] <Holo> yah.... it installed to an external just fine
[10:05] <Holo> now I need to just get that dam installer and install it back
[10:06] <Anticom> hm it doesn't respond to sigterm
[10:06] <Holo>  Subiquity server installer is what I want
[10:07] <tomreyn> that's the "live server" installer, the default one
[10:08] <B1ack0p> hi there
[10:08] <B1ack0p> i got an error report : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4khNwZrxJ9/
[10:08] <B1ack0p> what is this error about and how can i fix it?
[10:09] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: the flameshot "Powerful yet simple-to-use screenshot software" you have installed crashed.
[10:11] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: you will probably not be able to fix it yourself. you could report a bug. did you submit it when it asked whether you'd like to report it?
[10:11] <B1ack0p> tomreyn: is that all about?
[10:11] <Holo> indeed, and it appears to be a snap only package
[10:11] <B1ack0p> tomreyn: yes i reported it
[10:11] <B1ack0p> flameshot is working still why error i dont understand
[10:12] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: then you basically did all you could, unless you're into programming.
[10:12] <B1ack0p> nope i am not into programming but i wish :/
[10:13] <tomreyn> by the way, what you posted contains a partial memory dump. those can contain sensitive information, so you should not normally post those publicly.
[10:15] <tomreyn> what happened is that flameshot accessed a region of memory it should not have needed to / doesn't have access to, this is usually an indication of a programming error.
[10:16] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: ^
[10:17] <B1ack0p> so it is a bug?
[10:17] <tomreyn> most likely
[10:17] <B1ack0p> ok
[10:17] <B1ack0p> may i ask you something? are u an engineer? or have degree on computer sciences?
[10:18] <Holo> well then that failed, Guess ill have to use the gui version and rip it out later
[10:18] <Shabbeer> Hi, can any one help me in trobleshooting the audio problem in ubuntu 16.04.
[10:19] <tomreyn> B1ack0p: sorry, we only do ubuntu support chat on *this* channel.
[10:20] <tomreyn> !audio | Shabbeer did you read this, yet? it's a bit outdated, but mostly still relevant
[10:31] <Shabbeer> @tomreyn and @ubottu, I am unable to resolve the issue.
[10:42] <lavinho> good morning
[10:43] <lavinho> i have instlled dwa 171 revisin c1 gut hub but before reboot no detect
[10:43] <lavinho> help me please
[10:47] <dff> i want to try kubuntu and wipe this xbuntu install, for DE back up purposes ive saved themes, icons, xfce-settings, xubuntu-settings and thunar
[10:48] <dff> anything else i need to save incase i want to restore the DE environment
[10:48] <zenirc369> im trying to use "send" command in combinaton with "expect" command in ubuntu
[10:48] <zenirc369> but i dont find send command
[10:48] <zenirc369>  but i dont find "send" command
[10:49] <zenirc369> when I gave the command "send" in the terminal, it suggested me the following
[10:49] <zenirc369> The program 'send' can be found in the following packages:
[10:49] <zenirc369>  * mailutils-mh
[10:49] <zenirc369>  * nmh
[10:49] <zenirc369> Try: sudo apt install <selected package>
[10:49] <zenirc369> SO i installed both of the above packages "mailutils-mh"  "nmh", but still I didnt get the send command
[11:20] <lunatikos> hello ! how to know what wine library need a program to run it well ?
[11:20] <lunatikos> (appart searching in wine DB)
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:38] <zetheroo> I removed a faulty disk from a raid, and replaced it with a new disk. I need to create the partitions on the new disk as they exist on the healthy disk, including the 'BIOS boot' partition.
[11:38] <zetheroo> Is there a way to copy over the partition scheme to the new disk?
[11:38] <zetheroo> or do I have to create each partition manually with fdisk?
[11:43] <yvyz> lunatikos: I do not understand your question. Could you be a little more clear?
[11:44] <yvyz> zetheroo: What type of RAID are you running?  What is managing your RAID?
[11:44] <yvyz> BluesKaj: o/
[11:44] <BluesKaj> hi yvyz
[11:45] <lunatikos> i use bitwig studio its a DAW native linux but i need to use "VST" dll as plugins FX / instruments from windows : the vst <-> linux-plugins bridge works well but some plugs crash cause missing wine librarties.
[11:45] <zetheroo> yvyz: I think sgdisk is what I needed
[11:46] <yvyz> zetheroo: I still am not able to know what your system configuration is.
[11:47] <lunatikos> ubuntu 18.10
[11:47] <lunatikos> wine staging latest release
[11:47] <yvyz> Yea I am familiar with bitwig.... very familiar.
[11:47] <yvyz> And VST's
[11:48] <yvyz> Yea, this might be trial by fire lunatikos. VST development is crazy dynamic.
[11:50] <lunatikos> is it possible to auto-login with Pidgin IRC
[11:50] <lunatikos> ?
[11:51] <lunatikos> i reconnect fats...
[11:51] <lunatikos> fast*
[12:33] <V7> Does anyone know what's this? https://i.imgur.com/CBzDqFt.png btw, this is status bar from byobu
[12:34] <V7> lucasrolff: Have you thought about changing client? For example to weechat?
[12:48] <netsrot> Hi, is there a reason why the kernel from kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.0/ doesn't work on amd 2400G? kernel 4.18.20 works from there.
[12:51] <pragmaticenigma> netsrot: because those kernels are not fully supported and tested yet. stick to the ones provided through the main repository. that ppa is for testing only
[13:06] <ryahi_skaprinav> My usb drive has become read-only. How do I make it read-write accessible?
[13:07] <ryahi_skaprinav> I can't even format it or unallocate it using gparted.
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: can you pastebin: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in your usb?
[13:10] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/1fdUAccC
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: that doesnt look to bright indeed
[13:12] <pragmaticenigma> ryahi_skaprinav: Looks like you might need to try and reboot... I think the drive has a stale mount
[13:12] <ryahi_skaprinav> it is not working in any of the other pc as well.
[13:12] <ryahi_skaprinav> I just need to format it.
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: what brand is your usb and formatted in wich layout?
[13:13] <ryahi_skaprinav> hp v220
[13:14] <ryahi_skaprinav> it is showing fat32
[13:14] <ryahi_skaprinav> in gparted
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> meanwhile try what pragmaticenigma suggested please?
[13:21] <smallville7123> what package is mount in
[13:21] <ryahi_skaprinav> Mount point: /media/ryahi/HP V220W
[13:21] <ayekat> smallville7123: dpkg -S {file}
[13:22] <ayekat> ah wait... context
[13:22] <smallville7123> as i dont have mount installed
[13:23] <ayekat> smallville7123: the package is also named `mount`, it seems
[13:23] <smallville7123> and it issnt in any of the *utils
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: did you reboot as adviced?
[13:23] <ayekat> upstream is util-linux, but debian/ubuntu seems to have split it into a separate package
[13:24] <smallville7123> E: Unable to locate package mount
[13:24] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, yes it got mounted but still can't format it
[13:24] <ayekat> smallville7123: ah wait, I've only got an ubuntu 16.04 under my nose here
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: what about disk-tools in ubuntu, can you format there?
[13:25] <ayekat> smallville7123: well yeah, no, it should be there: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/mount
[13:25] <ayekat> (and also later)
[13:25] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, no option is not available
[13:26] <ayekat> smallville7123: maybe your package repo configuration needs some fixing - how did you end up with a system without mount, though?
[13:26] <smallville7123> Isnt in linux-utils
[13:26] <BluesKaj> smallville7123, check your package manager
[13:27] <smallville7123> apt 1.4.8 (aarch64)
[13:27] <ayekat> yeah no, I already wrote it is in mount - the package is called `mount`
[13:27] <BluesKaj> mount should be ther unless your sources file doesn't have the 'main repo'
[13:28] <smallville7123> Nope ;-;
[13:29] <smallville7123> I just have this
[13:29] <smallville7123> # The main termux repository:
[13:29] <smallville7123> deb https://termux.net stable main
[13:29] <ayekat> only…?  O_o
[13:29] <smallville7123> Yes
[13:30] <ayekat> like... /etc/apt/sources.list, not /etc/apt/sources.d/{something}.list?
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> smallville7123: What did you do to your machine prior to finding out that you needed mount?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> !sources
[13:31] <BluesKaj> smallville7123, ^
[13:31] <smallville7123> In /data/data/com.termux/files/usr/etc/apt/sources.list
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: whats the history of that stick?
[13:33] <ryahi_skaprinav> I don't know. It belongs to a friend.
[13:34] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, When I try to mount it:https://pastebin.com/PttFL1Mh
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: it doesnt have a physical switch or something?
[13:37] <smallville7123> What does this mean
[13:37] <ryahi_skaprinav> I don't know what that means lotuspsychje
[13:37] <lgp171188> On my Kubuntu 18.10 install, apps installed as snaps do not show up in the launcher search and the path containing the binaries aren't added to $PATH in the shell (I use zsh) as well.
[13:37] <smallville7123> If you have a *.deb package file, you can install it with dpkg. Note that packages downloaded from Ubuntu or from repositories of other Linux distributions will not work due to incompatible libc ABI, however statically compiled binaries may work.
[13:37] <lgp171188> Is there some thing that has to be done to fix this?
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: could you try this from a windows system, maybe check on the hp website for its software, it might be an encrypted kind of usb
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: could you pastebin also: fdisk -l please?
[13:42] <befree22> Im trying to make a liveUSB from the latest ubuntu iso, this command didnt' work. dd bs=4M if=input.iso of=/dev/sd<?> conv=fdatasync Cannot find initramfs
[13:42] <befree22> stick is fat32
[13:42] <befree22> installed to /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb1
[13:42] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/V1E8y9f9
[13:44] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, it shows disk is write protected in windows
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: if you dont need the data on it, try this plz: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=2M count=1
[13:48] <ryahi_skaprinav> Do i have to write the command as it is
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: yes
[13:49] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, dd: failed to open '/dev/sdb': Read-only file system
[13:50] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, sudo hdparm -r0  /dev/sdb1
[13:52] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, https://pastebin.com/rwzcy3vf
[13:52] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, ok
[13:52] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, open gparted
[13:52] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, opened
[13:53] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, umount the usb device
[13:53] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, it is not mounted
[13:54] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, still can't delete it
[13:54] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, run  'mount'  in terminal ans paste the output
[13:55] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, https://pastebin.com/GRjV5tm1
[13:56] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  unplug ,plug again and paste  dmesg | tail -30
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: are you on ubuntu or WSL?
[13:57] <ryahi_skaprinav> ubuntu-mate 16.04
[13:57] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, https://pastebin.com/8bp4pZ6i
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> ioria: weird stuff right
[13:59] <ioria> yep
[14:00] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, run  'mount'  again
[14:00] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, https://pastebin.com/JXurBLaN
[14:03] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, not sure, but probably that device  was manufactured “closed-for-business"
[14:04] <ryahi_skaprinav> No, it was working alright until few days ago. It got mounted once and so I was able to get the data out of it but suddenly it has stopped working
[14:05] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, you see it's not event mounting
[14:05] <ioria> *even
[14:05] <ryahi_skaprinav> yes but it got mounted before
[14:05] <ioria> where ?
[14:06] <ryahi_skaprinav> mount point: /media/priyank/HP 220W
[14:07] <ryahi_skaprinav> After that I manually unmounted it
[14:07] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, again  ;  sudo hdparm -r0  /dev/sdb
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: on almost dead media, i always try sudo photorec to recover data, if that doesnt work pretty sure its dead
[14:08] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, same output
[14:09] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, reopen gparted and try to run  fsck on that drive
[14:10] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, ok doing that
[14:10] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, how do you do that?
[14:11] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, select the drive; right click or something
[14:11] <ryahi_skaprinav> All options are blacked out ioria
[14:11] <ioria> right
[14:11] <EriC^^> ryahi_skaprinav: are you selecting the drive or partition?
[14:12] <feelextra> what's a Snap store?
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> !snap | feelextra
[14:12] <ryahi_skaprinav> EriC^^, drive
[14:12] <EriC^^> ryahi_skaprinav: you need to do it on a partition
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> feelextra: its the store where the snap software is gathered
[14:13] <feelextra> lotuspsychje: thanks you!
[14:13] <feelextra> which gatherings of snap software can be considered Snap Stores?
[14:13] <feelextra> is a github repositroy can be considered Snap Store?
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> feelextra: on ubuntu you can choose to install packages from apt repos or snaps now
[14:14] <ryahi_skaprinav> EriC^^, Ofcourse I'm right clicking on partition
[14:14] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, exfat-fuse  exfat-utils are installed ?
[14:15] <EriC^^> ryahi_skaprinav: you just said drive, anyways nevermind
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> feelextra: the snapstore is just the GUI where snaps are shown
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> feelextra: are you on ubuntu right now?
[14:15] <feelextra> lotuspsychje: i am on linux mint
[14:15] <feelextra> i have snap installed
[14:15] <feelextra> and already using a couple of snap software
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> feelextra: we dont support mint here sorry
[14:16] <feelextra> i didn't ask for support it's okay lotuspsychje
[14:16] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, yes
[14:18] <feelextra> lotuspsychje: is there a Snap store besides Snapcraft's website? i thought Snap software can be distributed anywhere.
[14:18] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, you said took the data from it ...but you dind't say if you wrote successfully on it bfore
[14:18] <ioria> *before
[14:18] <leftyfb> feelextra: you might be better off asking these questions in #snappy
[14:19] <feelextra> leftyfb: thank you!
[14:19] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, yeah the data was written on it by a friend. It contains some folders written by him.
[14:20] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  yes, but could You write something on it before now ?
[14:20] <ryahi_skaprinav> yes
[14:23] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, try to change usb port
[14:25] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, and paste  sudo parted -l
[14:26] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, https://pastebin.com/Hz5eFdsS
[14:27] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, sudo mount -v  /dev/sdb1  /mnt
[14:27] <ioria> wait
[14:27] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, waiting
[14:27] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,   sudo mkdir /mnt/myusb
[14:27] <ryahi_skaprinav> done
[14:27] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav, sudo mount -v  /dev/sdb1  /mnt/myusb
[14:29] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[14:29] <ryahi_skaprinav> Even though my gparted shows it is there
[14:32] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  something in  'df -h' ?
[14:34] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, https://pastebin.com/MRBhf1ES
[14:34] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  if not, killall your FM (caja, nautilus, nemo)
[14:34] <ryahi_skaprinav> already done
[14:35] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  and ?
[14:36] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, still the same
[14:39] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  do you have a windows box ?
[14:40] <ryahi_skaprinav> yes
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: maybe try if you can still get data from it: sudo apt install testdisk and sudo photorec after
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> im curious if photorec would see the usb
[14:40] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  try to install some HP USB Disk format tool
[14:40] <ryahi_skaprinav> I got all the data from it lotuspsychje
[14:40] <ryahi_skaprinav> ok ioria
[14:40] <ryahi_skaprinav> thanks both of you
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: yes i know, but would be interesting to see if photorec would be able to access it
[14:41] <ioria> ok, keep us informed
[14:42] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  something like this : https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/hp-usb-disk-storage-format-tool/
[14:44] <ryahi_skaprinav> doing just that ioria
[14:44] <ioria> ok
[14:45] <ryahi_skaprinav> ioria, it is also giving write protected error
[14:46] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  and no switch on the device ?
[14:47] <ryahi_skaprinav> none that i can see
[14:48] <ioria> ryahi_skaprinav,  no other ideas  sy
[14:48] <ryahi_skaprinav> ok still tanks for the effort
[14:48] <ryahi_skaprinav> 8thanks
[14:48] <ryahi_skaprinav> *thanks
[14:48] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, no photorec is not recognising the usb
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: try this tool: https://www.pny.com.tw/index.php?cls=2&mode=download
[14:49] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, sry it did recognise
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: see if you can recover data from that partition?
[14:50] <ryahi_skaprinav> i don't need data from that drive, I already copied it
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: yes, you said that..this is just for testing purposes
[14:52] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, yes it started recovery
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: hmm interesting, you can cancel it this would prove the usb is actually not dead yet
[14:53] <ryahi_skaprinav> yes, guess I will just take it to a HP store
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> ryahi_skaprinav: try that windows tool i linked you above
[14:55] <ryahi_skaprinav> lotuspsychje, will try that later thank you for your time
[14:55] <ryahi_skaprinav> gtg
[14:56] <Muligan> yvyz, shouldn't require a drive if it's showing up in lspci w/the corresponding chipset (LSI2008) more than common these days
[15:07] <tonyvicky> howto install i3wm ?
[15:19] <MapMan> Hi! I installed latest qt5 on my ubuntu (5.11.something). Due to compatibility I need to downgrade to qt 5.9.x. How can I do that? I more or less know how to remove existing qt5 packages, but how do I grab version specific qt packages?
[15:20] <tarzeau> MapMan: compatibility to what software?
[15:20] <tarzeau> MapMan: maybe easier to fix that software? if it's free?
[15:21] <MapMan> Not really, it's a private fork of musescore.
[15:22] <tarzeau> MapMan: music notation?
[15:22] <lordcirth__> MapMan, if it's for one piece of software, you may want to consider a VM, LXC container, or systemd-nspawn.
[15:22] <tarzeau> which you did the fork of, or someone else?
[15:23] <tarzeau> MapMan: https://sources.debian.org/src/musescore/2.3.2+dfsg2-4/debian/copyright/ GPL says
[15:23] <tarzeau> MapMan: if you have the binary, you are entitled for the source of it too
[15:23] <genii> With apt-get, you specify version you want like: sudo apt-get install something=version-you-want-here
[15:23] <MapMan> lordcirth__: that's a no go, the app is a part of a more complex dev env set up, I'd have to host everything in a say, VM then.
[15:23] <tarzeau> genii: it'll be fun with multiple packages, and qt generally
[15:24] <MapMan> genii: thanks
[15:24] <genii> MapMan: If you installed higher version from a ppa, might want to also purge that ppa from your lists so it doesn't auto-upgrade to the later version
[15:25] <MapMan> genii: Right.
[15:26] <leftyfb> or pin the ppa
[15:26] <MapMan> I'll look into it. Auto-upgrade could be problematic in the future.
[15:30] <van777> Hey! What's the best way to emulate android? I've installed ANBOX, and not happy with it
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> van777: i recently testes androidx86 iso on vbox, much better experience then anbox
[15:30] <genii> MapMan: To prevent the auto-upgrading, use pinning as already suggested
[15:30] <genii> !pinning
[15:31] <van777> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> van777: http://www.android-x86.org/download
[15:31] <MapMan> genii: will do, thanks!
[15:31] <van777> lotuspsychje: did you try genymotion?
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> van777: no sorry
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> van777: feel free to discuss more at #ubuntu-discuss
[15:32] <MapMan> genii: one more thing: I'm running ubuntu 18.10, which defaults to cosmic suite of packages. Bionic suite contains Qt version that I need. How can I grab the packages from bionic suite instead of cosmic?
[15:32] <genii> MapMan: That's not a good idea.
[15:33] <genii> MapMan: A better ( more proper) way is to add the deb-src repository of a version you want, download the source code and then build a deb
[15:35] <leftyfb> MapMan: if this setup is of any importance, I would be running it 18.04(bionic) since you'll have 5 year support on it.
[15:35] <genii> MapMan: Also, what leftyfb says
[15:35] <MapMan> fuck
[15:35] <leftyfb> !ohmy | MapMan
[15:36] <MapMan> Ahem. True, that might be the safer way to go and also would automatically solve the qt problem
[15:36] <leftyfb> MapMan: I always stick wih LTS releases of Ubuntu and never bother with non-LTS.
[15:36] <MapMan> leftyfb: there's nothing wrong with ubuntu per se here, it's that qt messed around with a lot of their headers and broke compatibility
[15:37] <MapMan> but yeah, I don't want to build qt myself
[15:41] <zetheroo> where in Ubuntu 18.04 do you add search domain?
[15:41] <zetheroo> used to be in the Network Manager but it seems it's not there anymore
[15:44] <SimonNL> ipv4 setting zetheroo ?
[15:45] <SimonNL> and ipv6 setting
[15:45] <zetheroo> SimonNL: nope - nothing there. It was there in 16.04
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: This might work? https://askubuntu.com/a/1068468
[15:47] <SimonNL> I'm on mint 19.1 ubuntu 18.04.1   networkmanager settings shows it
[15:47] <zetheroo> I don't want to try all kinds of hacky stuff. I want to know what the officially supported solution is.
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: That is officially supported... it's just a different interface
[15:48] <nacc> zetheroo: it was removed from the gui, i think
[15:48] <zetheroo> nacc: yes I know :)
[15:48] <limboxx> which irc client would you guys recommend? i am currently using a bare bone (not yet customized) weechat and until i find the time to set it up properly is there a good alternative?
[15:49] <leftyfb> zetheroo: run nm-connection-editor
[15:49] <van777> limboxx: weechat is great combined with weechat-android
[15:50] <pragmaticenigma> limboxx: This channel is focused on support type question. Please visit #ubuntu-offtopic for software recommendations
[15:50] <limboxx> pragmaticenigma: sry, i will
[15:51] <genii> limboxx: hexchat is widely used
[15:52] <zetheroo> leftyfb: interesting - but I cannot type in anything
[16:05] <sdaasd> hi
[16:20] <zetheroo> so if /etc/resolv.conf cannot be edited by hand, how are you supposed to change the information in there?
[16:22] <genii> zetheroo: the manpage for resolved.conf should give you some idea
[16:24] <zetheroo> this all used to be so much easier :/
[16:27] <genii> zetheroo: /etc/systemd/resolved.conf is probably the only one you need to edit, in this case
[16:33] <zetheroo> genii: is editing that file supposed to make any difference in /etc/resolv.conf?
[16:35] <zetheroo> in resolv.conf I have 'nameserver 127.0.0.53' .. whats that?
[16:35] <EriC^^> zetheroo: i think you need to do sudo systemctl restart resolvconf
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: resolv caches dns queries locally to reduce the time it takes for repeat DNS lookups
[16:36] <zetheroo> EriC^^: I did 'sudo service systemd-resolved restart'
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: This is Ubuntu 18.04?
[16:36] <zetheroo> yes
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: the command is "sudo systemctl restart ..."
[16:37] <pragmaticenigma> zetheroo: "sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service"
[16:42] <zetheroo1> so now I have the domain search entry in the resolv.conf, but still nothing with that domain resolves in Chrome/Firefox
[16:43] <genii> zetheroo1: Can you manually ping anything past your router?
[16:43] <zetheroo1> Here is some of my network info: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wd5D85Dbrx/
[16:44] <zetheroo1> genii: like google.com? yes
[16:45] <zetheroo1> I'll mention again (in case it got lost before while disconnecting/connecting) that this is with a VPN to my workplace
[16:45] <zetheroo1> trying to access any of the internal (site.domain.local) websites fails in the browser
[16:46] <zetheroo1> before all I had to do was add mt.local to the search in resolv.conf ... now it's still not working
[17:23] <sony_1> anyone know a solution for the Ubuntu Login Loop? I have 16.04LTS, and now when i login with correct password, it goes to the desktop, and logs me back out
[17:24] <pragmaticenigma> sony_1: Are you able to add a new user (access TTY with Ctrl + Alt + F2) and then go to the gui login and see if it still happens?
[17:28] <mustmodify> I have ubuntu server installed on a netbook.
[17:29] <mustmodify> It's 32 bit, and there apparently isn't a 32-bit version with desktop. Even if there is, I'm trying to be as lightweight as possible.
[17:29] <mustmodify> I want to set up this netbook so when it is restarted, it'll automatically launch a web browser to a certain page. I don't need it "locked down", it'll just be in my office. Any suggestions for getting that done? Or direction?
[17:29] <leftyfb> mustmodify: there is still 32bit versions of the packages. Just not ISO's.
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: Canonical is no longer releasing 32-bit install images anymore. The only way to install 32-bit is using the mini.iso release, which downloads the packages on install
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: mini.iso also is the best way to install minimal system from my experience
[17:31] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: From there you could select the Lubuntu Minimal Desktop, and once installed, install your web browser of choice, set it up to auto-login and auto-launch the browser on startup
[17:31] <mustmodify> lubuntu minimal
[17:31] <mustmodify> ok thanks
[17:41] <sony_1> pragmaticenigma,-- yes this happens on all users, new accounts created
[17:52] <erle-> What is the difference between libc6-amd64-x32-cross and libc6-amd64-i386-cross
[17:52] <erle-> ?
[17:55] <plutes> do you think designing a pair of Nike's for my b-day with apt get on them is a bit much?
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> !ot | plutes
[17:57] <pragmaticenigma> erle-: One is for 32bit and the other is for 64bit environments
[17:58] <pragmaticenigma> err
[17:58] <erle-> pragmaticenigma, no, they are both on my AMD64 install
[17:58] <[rg]> hello
[17:59] <[rg]> in the dconf editor there is a setting for scale factor on com.ubuntu.user-interface
[17:59] <[rg]> what values can it take
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> erle-: Quick web search... the X32 allows 64bit applications to be written using 32bit pointers
[18:00] <erle-> pragmaticenigma, yes, but so does i386
[18:00] <erle-> it does not explain why there are two
[18:01] <pragmaticenigma> erle-: Sounds like a good time to do a web search.
[18:01] <erle-> of course I did that before I asked here
[18:02] <pragmaticenigma> erle-: https://packages.debian.org/sid/libc6-x32-i386-cross
[18:02] <erle-> I see that both packages exist in APT, and both are not dummies
[18:03] <erle-> pragmaticenigma, I see those descriptions in APT. It says that one is x32 and one is i386. It does not explain what that means.
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> I just told you erle-
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> X32 allows for 32bit pointers. x32 ABI is an application binary interface and one of the interfaces of the Linux kernel
[18:04] <erle-> is it for running 64 bit apps on a 32 bit kernel? or what does it mean?
[18:05] <pragmaticenigma> erle-: If you want better detail than that, then find a software development channel.
[18:05] <erle-> at least I know now it is not the same :)
[18:06] <[rg]> i see, its 'monitor': size
[18:06] <ioria> erle-,  x32 is to use 32bit pointers on 64bit arch (but it's going to die soon, afaik)
[18:07] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: Why not start with what you are attempting to do? It will help someone better understand what it is you're asking
[18:07] <ioria> erle-,  btw, the two pkgs have difference sources : cross-toolchain-base-port  vs cross-toolchain-base
[18:07] <[rg]> trying to get font scaling done on mate, analagous to the gnome font scaling
[18:08] <[rg]> i dont see any direct options
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: That is because it's a setting not intended to be tweaked manually
[18:09] <[rg]> pragmaticenigma, it was in unity?
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: It appears it accept positive integers: 1 = 1.0x scaling, 2 = 2.0x scaling
[18:09] <pacchu> so whats this chat
[18:09] <pragmaticenigma> !topic | pacchu
[18:11] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: scratch that
[18:12] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: It allows you to set the scalling factor for each monitor in relation to one another. It accepts a JSON encoded string
[18:12] <[rg]> pragmaticenigma, so then I cant just scale my primary display?
[18:13] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: To use it the format appears to be "{'DSI1': 16}" would achieve 2x scaling on the DSI1 interface
[18:14] <[rg]> yeah, im trying {'e-DP1' : 12 } but nothing, maybe a reboot
[18:14] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: where DSI1 is the name of the connection, it could be VGA0, HDMI0, etc...
[18:15] <[rg]> i assume thats the correct display since thats what xrandr shows
[18:15] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: Are you using the correct format? dconf write /com/ubuntu/user-interface/scale-factor "{'e-DP1': 12}"
[18:15] <[rg]> yeah, im using the dconf editor
[18:15] <[rg]> it accepted the format
[18:15] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: After saving, it would require you to restart your session
[18:16] <[rg]> ok, gonna reboot and hope for the best :)
[18:16] <[rg]> thanks pragmaticenigma
[18:34] <mustmodify> So I have ubuntu server installed. How do I figure out which packages I need to turn it into lubuntu desktop?
[18:34] <[rg]> seems like the scaling worked althout minal effect
[18:35] <[rg]> mustmodify, why down the the server?
[18:35] <[rg]> also there should be a lubuntu package
[18:35] <mustmodify> I'm not sure what you're asking.
[18:35] <[rg]> s/down/dowload
[18:35] <mustmodify> But I had already installed server
[18:35] <[rg]> to turn into a desktop?
[18:35] <mustmodify> Found a 32-bit ISO
[18:36] <mustmodify> Well... I don't really understand the minimum requirements needed to get a command prompt to minimally support xwindows
[18:36] <mustmodify> and I kind of figured server must be a subset of desktop.
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: I believe if you use the meta package it will take care of the rest: apt install lubuntu-desktop
[18:37] <mustmodify> trying that now, thanks.
[18:38] <[rg]> there is a minial iso available btw
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> [rg]: that's what we directed to them earlier
[18:39] <[rg]> o.O
[18:39] <mustmodify> Well then perhaps I just like to do things the complicated way, ever think of that?!
[18:39] <[rg]> heh
[18:39] <mustmodify> I had already downloaded server even before that.
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> mustmodify: It's your computer, you're free to do with it as you please.
[18:39] <mustmodify> I'm just trying to get this damn radiator set up. :)
[18:39] <[rg]> pragmaticenigma, i fear i will have to force the font dpi :/
[18:40] <mustmodify> I'll get there one day. I tried some instructions I found, ended up installing full ubuntu-desktop, then somehow it got messed up. I couldn't login to lightdm but I could login at the prompt. So I ended up reinstalling everything.
[18:41] <[rg]> i wonder if you can update old iso's with new iso's , since its just an archive
[18:41] <BillyCole> Im writing a fairly large quantity of data out to a file in rust, and it seems slower than I'm expecting/hoping.  Wondering if there's a way to optimize it further: https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2018&gist=fa1ccabe85a6a8a0d31169cb4fb788ae
[18:42] <[rg]> BillyCole what fs?
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> BillyCole: That sounds like a question best asked in a rust development channel.
[18:43] <[rg]> brb rebooting
[18:44] <BillyCole> I tried writing to a tmpfs file system just to be sure it was disk related. But I'm only able to write about 1GB per minute using the above code.
[18:44] <BillyCole> pragmaticenigma: I can do that too, but just wasn't sure if there was a better way to do writing.  Seems that there are a lot of examples out there.
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> BillyCole: This channel supports Ubuntu OS... it's not a programming/software development channel.
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> BillyCole: It's best to find the channel that matches the topic of your inquery... you'll receive better responses in the correct forum
[18:45] <BillyCole> pragmaticenigma: Ha! Sorry, my fault, the autojoin got me.  Thought I was in the rust channel
[18:45] <BillyCole> Apologies.
[18:45] <lordcirth__> np
[19:01] <relipse> Hi I've got Ubuntu enabled on my windows 10 box, I'm ssh'ed into a server, how do I transfer a file from that server back to my windows box?
[19:01] <relipse> I tried scp
[19:01] <lordcirth__> !wsl | relipse
[19:08] <van777> relipse: you can "sudo python -m SimpleHTTPServer 80"
[19:08] <lordcirth__> That is a handy trick, if you don't need security
[19:09] <bindi> relipse: with a client like WinSCP you should be able to transfer files back and forth
[19:10] <Simonious> I'm trying to mount a new volume..  and I'm missing a detail somewhere. This works correctly: mount /dev/vdb1 /home   But when I put it in fstab, mount -a, or mount /home both fail
[19:10] <Simonious> blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/vdb1 4ee1be97-e112-4c20-837e-aeec097087a7
[19:11] <Simonious> fstab: LABEL=4ee1be97-e112-4c20-837e-aeec097087a7     /home           ext4    defaults        0 0
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> Simonious: are you trying to use a second device in place of your /home directory?
[19:13] <Simonious> pragmaticenigma: yes
[19:13] <Simonious> I've moved home to home_old
[19:13] <Simonious> and created an empty /home
[19:13] <Simonious> as a mount point
[19:14] <pragmaticenigma> I think <pass> needs to be set to: 2
[19:14] <pragmaticenigma> LABEL is also wrong
[19:14] <rfm> Simonious, when mounting by UUID use UUID=blah, not LABEL=blah
[19:15] <pragmaticenigma> UUID=4ee1be97-e112-4c20-837e-aeec097087a7     /home           ext4    defaults        0 2
[19:15] <Simonious> rfm: cool, that solved it
[19:15] <Simonious> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[19:16] <gamester> Hey all. You know that gdm3 cog? Where are the config files that control the entries for the cog?
[19:16] <pragmaticenigma> Simonious: the <pass> should be set to something higher than mount point "/"
[19:16] <Simonious> pragmaticenigma: I don't understand your last statement
[19:17] <Simonious> oh..
[19:17] <Simonious> 0 0
[19:17] <Simonious> so 0 1 then?
[19:17] <pragmaticenigma> Simonious: If there isn't already one with 0 1... yes
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> Simonious: I have a swap partition so my swap is 0 0, root "/" is 0 1, and /var is 0 2 for me
[19:18] <Simonious> why have swap partitions fallen out of vogue?
[19:19] <rfm> as the fstab man page says, set root to pass 1 and everything else to pass 2.
[19:20] <Simonious> rfm: that seems to contradict stock install which defaults to 0 0 for /
[19:27] <Guest35582> exit
[19:27] <Guest35582> exit
[19:27] <rfm> Simonious, never noticed that (although my 16.04 desktop install still uses pass 1, I see the server install used 0.)  For all I know the fstab pass numbers are ignored since systemd is doing the fscks now...
[19:40] <frenda> Hi
[19:41] <frenda> This trick works on Windows: https://superuser.com/a/1276815/315125 to increase the width of sidebar in Firefox, but not on linux! Any idea?
[19:43] <lordcirth__> frenda, perhaps a plugin like this one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebar_plus
[19:44] <frenda> Ah, Thanks; going to try it
[19:47] <frenda> lordcirth__: Same problem. It also has a width limitation!
[19:48] <lordcirth__> hmm. Sorry, dunno
[19:51] <elfatherbrown> Hi guys. Anyone knows of a good source for del packages of atom.io?
[19:53] <pragmaticenigma> elfatherbrown: This channel supports Ubuntu OS and it's supported packages. Please use alis to find an more specific channel for your question
[19:54] <tomreyn> Simonious + rfm please see bug 1785354
[19:56] <larnee> hi all
[19:56] <yvyz> o/
[19:58] <Deihmos> On Debian there are no updates to the packages from stable. Is Ubuntu the same?
[19:59] <pragmaticenigma> Deihmos: Debian is a completely different distrobution. Ubuntu and Debian are both very different OS's
[20:01] <MapMan> Hi! I have a problem with Qt. Here's the problem explained with the error log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YtKhWys3w9/
[20:01] <tomreyn> Deihmos: please don't cross-post on multiple channels at the same time.
[20:01] <MapMan> In short: im trying to build MuseScore but it bombs on 'make' due to Qt issue
[20:02] <pragmaticenigma> MapMan: You should ask that question in a qt development channel
[20:03] <MapMan> pragmaticenigma: will do
[20:03] <pragmaticenigma> MapMan: You might have some luck with #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:08] <Simonious> next question - rsyncing a largish file.. hit ctrl-c to abort in fit of impatience at lack of feedback long term.. notice that target volume still reports more space used thought the file name is not listed..  how does one recover this phantom usage?
[20:10] <bdonnahue1> hey guys. coming from RHEL. How can I install the xwindows server on ubuntu?
[20:10] <lordcirth__> Simonious, there will be a file in the target, .filename.xxxx
[20:11] <lordcirth__> And files starting with a period are hidden. Use ls -a.
[20:11] <lordcirth__> bdonnahue1, Xorg? Do you want a window manager / desktop environment, or just Xorg?
[20:11] <Simonious> lordcirth__: so there is, thanks
[20:12] <bdonnahue1> lordcirth__, I do not want to install a desktop env on the server. I just want to run apps over ssh connections
[20:12] <lordcirth__> bdonnahue1, I think you want 'apt install xserver-xorg', then
[20:13] <bdonnahue1> Thanks, i will give that a try
[20:14] <leftyfb> bdonnahue1: can I ask, if you need xorg, why didn't you just install the desktop version?
[20:14] <bdonnahue1> leftyfb, I was led to believe the descktop version what much "heavier" both in terms of packages being installed and the day to day footprint
[20:15] <bdonnahue1> i am not using the vm as a desktop
[20:15] <bdonnahue1> i just run desktop aps on the vm
[20:15] <bdonnahue1> gui apps*
[20:15] <lordcirth__> It's not that big of a deal for perf, but there are a lot of packages that maybe don't make sense on a server
[20:15] <lordcirth__> especially stuff that lets non-root users do stuff like reboot or mount USBs
[20:16] <bdonnahue1> lordcirth__, ah ok thanks
[20:16] <bdonnahue1> i am trying that install command now, will post back in a min
[20:18] <MapMan> Ok, I'm back from #qt channel. Things got weird. I installed 'libqt5core5a' package, which contains file libQt5Core.so.5.9.5 yet the file is not where it's supposed to be.
[20:18] <MapMan> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libQt5Core.so.5.9.5&mode=exactfilename&suite=bionic&arch=any
[20:19] <MapMan> there's no such file: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5.9.5
[20:19] <leftyfb> MapMan: you're not supposed to install packages from different releases. It's not something that can be supported.
[20:19] <leftyfb> MapMan: install Ubuntu 18.04
[20:20] <MapMan> I am on ubuntu 18.04
[20:20] <MapMan> fresh install
[20:20] <MapMan> that's the problem.
[20:20] <leftyfb> so what's the issue with the fresh install?
[20:20] <MapMan> I just said what's the problem. I'm trying to install qt yet it doesn't work
[20:21] <MapMan> on 18.10 I had an issue due to qt version mismatch, now qt is not recognized at all because the qt core lib is not there, even though package is installed
[20:22] <lordcirth__> MapMan, and installing the package showed no errors?
[20:22] <leftyfb> MapMan: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5.9.5 does exist when you install the libqt5core5a package. I have it
[20:22] <lordcirth__> apt-file search /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5.9.5 confirms
[20:22] <leftyfb> I also confirmed that
[20:22] <lordcirth__> MapMan, have you looked for the file in a shell, or is it just a compile tool that's telling you it doesn't exist?
[20:23] <lordcirth__> MapMan, wait a minute, double check what arch of package you installed
[20:24] <lordcirth__> dpkg -l  'libqt5core5a'
[20:25] <lordcirth__> If you somehow defaulted to installing the i386 version, it would be under a different path
[20:28] <tomreyn> looks like MapMan lost interest in this all of a sudden?
[20:29] <lordcirth__> People are busy
[20:33] <lowkeycoat1> Is ubuntu from linux deploy for Android phone coverd here?
[20:34] <lordcirth__> lowkeycoat1, you mean installing Ubuntu on an android phone? I don't think so
[20:35] <lowkeycoat1> Know of anywhere I can get some assistance? I'm really confused as to the point if I can't move files
[20:35] <hggdh> lowkeycoat1: please try #ubports
[20:36] <lowkeycoat1> Thank yoh
[20:42] <abduli> eeeeeee
[20:43] <abduli> hello people
[20:44] <lordcirth__> abduli, hello, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[20:59] <james_brown> how do i play a dvd in ubuntu 18.04? I have tried what is suggester here ---> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2317951  but without luck
[21:01] <lordcirth__> james_brown, I don't recall having to doing anything other than installing vlc?
[21:01] <lordcirth__> Do you have libdvdread4 and ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[21:02] <james_brown> lordcirth__: when i play it with vlc i get this error: Playback failure: DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/sr0". Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[21:02] <lordcirth__> james_brown, and what does the log say?
[21:02] <pragmaticenigma> If the DVD is new enough, the copy protections that are used don't work with out a lot of tweaking
[21:03] <lordcirth__> Tools > Messages
[21:03] <lordcirth__> Yeah, DRM is a pain
[21:05] <james_brown> lordcirth__: the log files are not saved in the vlc folders
[21:06] <lordcirth__> james_brown, you may need to increase the verbosity under Tools > Messages, then try again
[21:11] <phazon> james_brown: you may need libdvd-pkg which will pull in libdvdcss from vlc repos
[21:11] <Guest53785> i'm having troubles upgrading my system: " dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:  unable to open files list file for package 'bluez-cups': Bad message
[21:12] <phazon> james_brown: sudo apt install libdvd-pkg && sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg
[21:12] <Guest53785> i've tried to apt update, upgrade, clean, autoclean, and autoremove.
[21:13] <Guest53785> dpkg -l shows that bluez-cups is "ii"
[21:13] <Guest53785> afk, sorry
[21:16] <pipegeek> hi folks!  I'm wondering: in light of cve-2019-5736, and google's urging us all to update chrome to 72.0.3626.121
[21:16] <pipegeek> I see that the latest version of chromium-browser in ubuntu lts is 72.0.3626.119 still
[21:17] <pipegeek> does anyone know if that version is affected, and whether we should avoid using chromium until that package is updated?
[21:19] <pipegeek> https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2019/03/stable-channel-update-for-desktop.html
[21:19] <lordcirth__> pipegeek, that CVE is for runc, did you get the wrong one?
[21:20] <lordcirth__> You meant CVE-2019-5786
[21:20] <pipegeek> I noticed that too :| but that's the CVE mentioned in the google release notification
[21:20] <rannd> hello
[21:20] <pipegeek> oh oopsie doodle
[21:20] <pipegeek> damnit
[21:20] <pipegeek> yes I did.
[21:20] <pipegeek> thanks, lordcirth__
[21:21] <pipegeek> not my day x)
[21:21] <lordcirth__> I do not see an Ubuntu or Debian page about this CVE
[21:22] <rannd> I receve a strange error on 16.04 LTS : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4vzD9NNz7G/
[21:23] <rannd> I may install normal packets as hexchat, etc , but when I run apt update this is the output, I haven't synaptic or other packet manager opened
[21:25] <lordcirth__> rannd, 'sudo apt install --reinstall libappstream3'
[21:25] <hggdh> this is referred to in the CVE git for Ubuntu
[21:26] <rannd> lordcirth__, ok I run the command
[21:26] <pipegeek> lordcirth__, that seems somewhat concerning x)
[21:26] <pipegeek> but okie doke, thanks
[21:26] <lordcirth__> hggdh, link?
[21:27] <hggdh> lordcirth__: hold on, I cloned the ubuntu-cve-tracker, now I have to find the link to it...
[21:27] <hggdh> but Disco already has it, not yet (it seems) backported
[21:27] <rannd> lordcirth__, ok now go thx all
[21:27] <lordcirth__> Ah, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2019/CVE-2019-5786.html
[21:27] <lordcirth__> rannd, great
[21:27] <lordcirth__> pipegeek, ^
[21:29] <hggdh> lordcirth__: https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cve-tracker/tree/active/CVE-2019-5786
[21:29] <pipegeek> oh!  sweet!
[21:29] <pipegeek> thanks lordcirth__ , hggdh
[21:29] <pipegeek> glad it's being tracked.  I'll go look
[21:29] <gbellinoz> Does anyone know why there's no linux-image-extra- for 4.15.0.46 ?
[21:30] <pipegeek> "Priority: medium" seems at odds with "actively exploited zero-day"
[21:30] <gbellinoz> (sorry, 4.15.0-46)
[21:31] <lordcirth__> pipegeek, it requires the user to go to a malicious site, and is a package that is only on desktops, and only if people installed it
[21:31] <lordcirth__> high or crit would be, like, an openssh vuln
[21:31] <pipegeek> makes sense!
[21:32] <pipegeek> okay, thanks all.  Good to know
[21:35] <james_brown> phazon: they were installed already
[21:36] <shibboleth> which vuln are you talking about?
[21:38] <james_brown> lordcirth__: so this seems to be the log https://pastebin.com/eixfPC6X
[21:38] <phazon> james_brown: did you also run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg' ??
[21:39] <james_brown> phazon: yup
[21:39] <lordcirth__> james_brown, if you run 'lsblk -f' does sr0 show up?
[21:40] <james_brown> lordcirth__: sr0    iso9660 170501_2015 2017-05-01-20-17-07-00               /media/james/170
[21:40] <lordcirth__> Why is it mounted?
[21:40] <lordcirth__> sudo umount /dev/sr0
[21:40] <lordcirth__> And try vlc again
[21:41] <gbellinoz> probably nautilus (shakes fist)
[21:41] <gbellinoz> or gnome, or unity, or I can't even keep track anymore.
[21:41] <lordcirth__> I like that in KDE, it pops up and asks
[21:41] <james_brown> lordcirth__: could u pls explain from what u understand that it is mounted and why it shouldnt be?
[21:43] <phazon> james_brown: also might wanna try uninstalling the vlc snap package, and install vlc using plain olde apt (or apt-get, etc)
[21:43] <lordcirth__> james_brown, vlc normally reads the disk itself. Mounting a drive or CD makes the individual files show up (under /media/james/170 in this case). Reading something while it's also mounted is bad.
[21:43] <james_brown> phazon: why?
[21:43] <lordcirth__> Ah, you have snap vlc? That *should* work, but yeah, worth trying if umount doesn't help
[21:43] <james_brown> lordcirth__: i see, and why is it mounted? i certainly didnt do that manually
[21:44] <lordcirth__> james_brown, your desktop environment probably automounted it
[21:44] <Guest53785> hi sorry about that
[21:44] <james_brown> lordcirth__: can i disable that feature? it is not the best thing if i understood correctly
[21:44] <Guest53785> i'm having troubles upgrading my system: " dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:  unable to open files list file for package 'bluez-cups': Bad message
[21:45] <lordcirth__> james_brown, yeah, if you search for 'mount' in settings, there's probably a switchg
[21:45] <Guest53785> dpkg -l shows that bluez-cups is "ii"
[21:45] <randomnick111> I've installed newest available Nvidia drivers that my Gpu supports.. I'm running a decent CPU and Gpu (Intel Core i5-3330 and Gainward gtx760 phantom
[21:45] <randomnick111> Oops
[21:45] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, do you have third-party repositories enabled?
[21:46] <phazon> james_brown: because snaps are semi-isolated and library issues such as libdvdcss may be alleviated by installing the regular package
[21:46] <Guest53785> lordcirth, let me check?
[21:47] <Guest53785> steam's repo, google chrome's, and kubuntu's backports
[21:47] <phazon> Guest53785: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:47] <phazon> then paste the url it gives you
[21:47] <Guest53785> i just unchecked them via "software sources"
[21:48] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, ok, so do 'apt update' to apply that, and try again
[21:48] <james_brown> phazon: i see, thanks.
[21:49] <Guest53785> https://termbin.com/vlt8 --- apt update results in same error while trying to upgrade
[21:50] <james_brown> lordcirth__: i unmounted it and i still get the errors
[21:50] <phazon> well, that's a snap pkg for ya...
[21:50] <lordcirth__> james_brown, ok, so yeah, try the apt package
[21:50] <MapMan> lordcirth__, leftyfb: sorry, I had to run, still afk. I will read the backlog and respond to all you suggested later.
[21:50] <james_brown> lordcirth__: yessir
[21:50] <MapMan> appreciate the help
[21:51] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, what if you run 'dpkg --configure -a' ?
[21:52] <Guest53785> lordcirth, no output, same error while doing upgrade
[21:53] <Guest53785> "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: unable to open files list file for package bluez-cups
[21:53] <Guest53785> i've done a clean & autoclean
[21:54] <james_brown> lordcirth__: i still get the errors xD
[21:54] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, 'cd /var/lib/dpkg/info; ls *bluez*'
[21:54] <lordcirth__> Most likely that is the corrupt file
[21:55] <vowl> I like to modify the sudoers file that a certain user group can only mount one specific nfs share. I do not find the correct syntax
[21:55] <lordcirth__> You can rm it, then run 'apt install --reinstall; apt -f install
[21:55] <lordcirth__> vowl, that's possible, but why not mount it for them?
[21:56] <Guest53785> rm bluez-cups.list ?
[21:56] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, yes
[21:56] <vowl> It is a shool homework. Thus I have to do the task
[21:56] <lordcirth__> it's a cached info file that probably got corrupted, and will get regenerated
[21:56] <Guest53785> should i also rm the .md5sums file?
[21:56] <lordcirth__> vowl, ah, I see
[21:56] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, shouldn't hurt
[21:57] <Guest53785> rm: cannot remove bluez-cups.list : bad message
[21:57] <lordcirth__> vowl, are they supposed to only be able to mount it in one place? (That would make sense)
[21:57] <Guest53785> rm -f gives same error
[21:57] <lordcirth__> "bad message" ??
[21:58] <Guest53785> root@ASR970:/var/lib/dpkg/info# sudo rm -f bluez-cups.list
[21:58] <Guest53785> 'rm: cannot remove 'bluez-cups.list': Bad message
[21:58] <Guest53785> i tried w/o the -f also
[21:58] <Guest53785> s/also/first
[21:58] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, well that's a bad sign. 'dmesg | tail'
[21:59] <lordcirth__> What filesystem is your / on?
[21:59] <vowl> there is an fstab entry and when the user like to mount the specific nfs share the fstab will triger
[21:59] <Guest53785> root & var are on different filesystems
[22:00] <Guest53785> but dmesg | tail states " [ 2683.049269] EXT4-fs error (device sde3): ext4_iget:4784: inode #404797: comm dpkg: checksum invalid:
[22:00] <vowl> the have to mount it only on one specific place
[22:00] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, ok, so what fs is /var using? and is it full?
[22:00] <Guest53785>  /var is not full
[22:01] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, that sounds like a corrupted filesystem. You should boot a liveCD and fsck it.
[22:01] <lordcirth__> While you're at it, check smartctl -a
[22:01] <Guest53785> it's just /var. can i nuke it while running?
[22:01]  * Guest53785 doesn't have a live system or spare media atm
[22:01] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, maybe? I wouldn't bet on it
[22:02] <Guest53785> smartmontools not installed
[22:02] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, yeah, so you'll need a liveusb since you can't install it
[22:02] <Guest53785> it's trying at least
[22:02] <Guest53785> is smartmontools supposed to ask about postfix?
[22:03] <lordcirth__> vowl, yeah, so what you do is make the /etc/fstab entry like you normally would, but with the added option 'noauto'.
[22:03] <Guest53785> what are the dangers of nuking a running system's /var?
[22:03] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, you can use --no-install--recommends
[22:03] <hggdh> I would not nuke /var, there are important package data & configuration there
[22:03] <Guest53785> i've got plenty of space to make a new /var somewhere else
[22:04] <lordcirth__> hggdh, in this case he just wants to umount and fsck it, but I'm still leery
[22:04] <vowl> lordcirht__:I have this entry in fstab
[22:04] <vowl> lordcirht__:My problem is the sudoers syntax
[22:04] <lordcirth__> vowl, great. then we need to whitelist the command 'mount /mountpoint'
[22:04] <hggdh> lordcirth__: a boot via livecd would be the best way to do that
[22:04] <lordcirth__> Yeah, that's what I said
[22:04] <hggdh> indeed
[22:04] <Guest53785> i've got enough space in /
[22:05] <Guest53785> is moving /var to a new filesystem feasible?
[22:06] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, you could, but if your hard drive is failing, shuffling all that data around isn't good
[22:06] <teio> Hi
[22:07] <Guest53785> df -h -> https://termbin.com/f4qk
[22:10] <Guest53785> i've got a blank hard drive to copy the old /var to
[22:11] <Guest53785> and edit the fstab to point to the new /var instead next reboot
[22:11] <Guest53785> worth a shot?
[22:12] <lordcirth__> vowl, I believe it would be: %groupname ALL (root) /bin/mount /mountpoint
[22:13] <lordcirth__> " Groupname may, on all machines, run as root '/bin/mount /mountpoint'"
[22:13] <lordcirth__> The sudoers manpage is quite arcane
[22:15] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, if you aren't deleting anything, yeah, that's worth a shot
[22:15] <Guest53785> so dd, or should i rsync?
[22:16] <Guest53785> i really only need to write /var to a new place, right?
[22:16] <vowl> I get an syntax error  %usergroup ALL (root) /bin/mount /data
[22:17] <Guest53785> because my / partition has plenty of space for just /var
[22:18] <Guest53785> so if i mkdir /newvar & copy everything from /var to /newvar, then tell fstab that /var is no longer it's own partition?
[22:18] <Guest53785> i'm not sure which approach is best
[22:19] <lordcirth__> vowl, any detail other than 'syntax error'?
[22:20] <lordcirth__> vowl, ah, I forgot '='. %usergroup ALL=(root) /bin/mount /data
[22:20] <lordcirth__> Given that this is homework, please make sure you understand why this works.
[22:23] <Guest53785> lordcirth: I found space to move /var to a new disk. cp or rsync?
[22:24] <Guest53785> i have enough space on / to house /var, at least until I order a new disk.
[22:24] <pipegeek> Guest53785, fwiw I would rsync -a unless it was really important that it be byte-identical at the new location.  dd will copy all the empty space too.
[22:25] <pipegeek> but either should work so long as the destination is larger than the target
[22:25] <Guest53785> pipegeek, can I rsync minus a specfic file(s)?
[22:25] <Guest53785> i'd like to not copy over things with "bluez-cups" in the name
[22:25] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, man rsync, look for --exclude
[22:25] <pipegeek> rsync is very flexible and yes you can exclude things
[22:25] <pipegeek> yup ^^ what lordcirth__ said
[22:26] <Guest53785> thanks much, going to try to move /var.
[22:27] <vowl> I think the first one was correct %user ALL=(root) /bin/mount server:/data
[22:27] <vowl> He has the problem with server:/
[22:27] <vowl> it is an nfs share
[22:27] <lordcirth__> vowl, if you have an fstab entry, you can call 'mount' specifying either the mountpoint or the device and it should work.
[22:27] <vowl> ok
[22:27] <vowl> I try
[22:28] <lordcirth__> I would generally have the user specify the mountpoint, since he needs to know that anyway. The server is a background detail
[22:29] <Guest53785> "rsync -a --exclude=bluez-cups /var /newvar" ?
[22:29] <Guest53785> am i missing anything?
[22:29] <Sbur3> I'm looking to rearrrange some stuff on my Ubuntu installation. One thing I am trying to do is to do a fsck on a partition that I have unmounted.  Fsck talks of a "dirty bit".  What is that and what should I do with that??
[22:31] <geirha> Guest53785: it has to match the path completely
[22:32] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, --exclude '*bluez-cups*' should work
[22:32] <Guest53785> alrighty
[22:32] <Guest53785> here goes
[22:33] <pipegeek> Guest53785, oh you may want to add trailing slashes to your paths.  I think as is you may end up with /newvar/var
[22:33] <pipegeek> someone correct me if I'm wrong
[22:34] <Guest53785> rsync: readlink_stat("/var/lib/dpkg/info/bluez-cups.list") failed: Bad message (74)
[22:34] <Guest53785> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1196) [sender=3.1.2]
[22:34] <Guest53785> how can i check to see if everything else copied
[22:34] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, you could ls -R each side and diff?
[22:34] <james_brown> lordcirth__: i still get the error messages on vlc
[22:34] <pipegeek> if you add -v (verbose) to your rsync command it'll show what's being copied
[22:35] <lordcirth__> or -v, yeah
[22:35] <pipegeek> running it a second time, that list should be shorter
[22:35] <pipegeek> (since most has ideally already been copied)
[22:35] <geirha> and -n (dry-run) can be useful along with -v
[22:35] <pipegeek> but also do ls on /newvar to make sure it looks like you expect it to
[22:35] <pipegeek> Like I said I think it might be /newvar/var right now (unless that's what you want)
[22:35] <Guest53785> it's going well so far
[22:36] <Guest53785> only file with problems was bluez-cups
[22:36] <pipegeek> good!
[22:37] <MapMan> lordcirth__: output of the command you asked me to run (dpkg -l 'libqt5core5a')
[22:38] <MapMan> lordcirth__: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H69XRNs6SV/
[22:38] <Guest53785> shit. i have /var inside of /newvar
[22:38] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, that's fine, just "cd /newvar; mv ./var/* ."
[22:38] <geirha> then rmdir var
[22:38] <lordcirth__> yeah
[22:39] <lordcirth__> won't take very long, since you're only renaming, not copying
[22:39] <james_brown> i cant play dvd with vlc even tho i installed all the needed packages on ubuntu 18.04, vlc gives me an error: Playback failure: Cannot play a non-UDF mastered DVD. Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[22:39] <Guest53785> lordcirth: run that under / as my pwd?
[22:39] <lordcirth__> Guest53785, /newvar is an absolute path
[22:40] <pipegeek> Guest53785, yup I figured
[22:40] <Guest53785> yep.
[22:40] <Guest53785> it contains all the /var files now
[22:40] <Guest53785> so rename /newvar, and tell fstab that /var is no longer it's own partition?
[22:41] <Guest53785> then i should be good, right?
[22:41] <pipegeek> Guest53785, no: cd /newvar && mv ./var/* . && rmdir ./var
[22:41] <pragmaticenigma> james_brown: that is because the disk was burned or created using a non-standard format. There are no methods to play back a disk that isn't UDF compliant
[22:41] <james_brown> pragmaticenigma: it's a cisco icdn1 disk
[22:42] <james_brown> *icnd
[22:42] <Guest53785> i did the cd /newvar && mv ./var/* . part
[22:42] <pragmaticenigma> james_brown: I have no idea what that means
[22:42] <MapMan> lordcirth__: also to answer your earlier question: I am physically checking whether the file is there or not, it's not compiler or make complaining
[22:43] <james_brown> pragmaticenigma: cisco ccna's exercise disk, i dont think that a company like cisco makes cds that are not able to be read
[22:43] <lordcirth__> MapMan, and this is 18.04, right?
[22:43] <pragmaticenigma> james_brown: you'd be surprised
[22:43] <lordcirth__> james_brown, they are able to be read by some players. They just aren't standards-compliant
[22:43] <MapMan> lordcirth__: yes, 18.04 LTS, fresh installation from a couple of hours back
[22:44] <james_brown> lordcirth__: so which player would you suggest?
[22:44] <pragmaticenigma> james_brown: some disks are just meant to be used only in a traditional DVD player
[22:44] <lordcirth__> Cisco does a lot of things that mostly work but don't follow standards
[22:44] <lordcirth__> I'm not sure what would read it
[22:45] <james_brown> and how can i find out what format it is?
[22:46] <lordcirth__> Well, 'file /dev/sr0' will tell you want format it *says* it is. But it's probably not compliant to any formal standard
[22:46] <lordcirth__> If it says iso9660, there's hope that some tool might read it
[22:49] <wt2> hi
[22:50] <aidan> hi
[22:50] <lordcirth__> too late lol
[22:50] <aidan> newbie
[22:51] <MapMan> lordcirth__: uh, so I removed libqt5core5a (which removed A LOT of other things, unsure if things will explode now) and reinstalled back right away and lo and behold, libQt5Core.so.5.9.5 is there as it should...
[22:51] <aidan> any know which flash plugin to install for 16.2?
[22:52] <james_brown> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660#Operating_system_support     here it says that linux does support iso9660 format
[22:52] <aidan> many thanks
[22:52] <james_brown> i dont understand
[22:53] <aidan> apologies wrong chat
[22:53] <tgm4883> james_brown: I'm coming into this late, but I believe the question was whether your disk actually was iso9660 compliant
[22:53] <tgm4883> not whether linux supports that standard
[22:54] <james_brown> what i understood is that my disk is written in the iso9660 standard
[22:54] <lordcirth__> james_brown, it claims to be, but that means little coming from Cisco
[22:55] <pragmaticenigma> james_brown: what we are all trying to say is that if VLC won't play the disk, there is no workaround.
[22:55] <pragmaticenigma> james_brown: It is documented in VLC that it will not playback DVD burned using the ISO9660 format
[22:56] <tomreyn> well maybe it's not a video DVD, but a data one, which can be mounted, and then it might contain video files and other data
[22:56] <deadrom> hi
[22:56] <tgm4883> james_brown: I might have missed this in the backlog, but out of curiosity, can you browse to the disk rather than trying to play it in VLC?
[22:56] <lordcirth__> tgm4883, it was mounted earlier
[22:56] <james_brown> pragmaticenigma: i cant find any software that does
[22:56] <tgm4883> Looking at what the disk is on Google, I'm seriously doubting it's a video disk
[22:56] <lordcirth__> So you might be able to dig the files out
[22:57] <tgm4883> It's a cert training disk, this is most likely not a video CD/DVD
[22:57] <deadrom> on dual boot, can gparted move windows-C and enlarge Windows' System Reserved Partition? (and not render Windows unbootable)
[22:57] <james_brown> tgm4883: then what is it?
[22:57] <tgm4883> james_brown: a data DVD
[22:57] <tgm4883> james_brown: as in, you load up whatever the training tool/documents are on the disk
[22:58] <james_brown> tgm4883: i will try to mount it again and look at the files
[22:58] <tgm4883> james_brown: good idea
[22:58] <lordcirth__> deadrom, You'd probably have to correct the bootloader afterwards. Grub with os-prober would probably handle it. If not using grub, ask on #windows
[22:58] <tgm4883> james_brown: screenshot or pastebin it if you want us to take a look
[23:09] <MapMan> lordcirth__: something must've gone horribly wrong with my ubuntu installation. I now had similar problem with libdouble-conversion1 - make was complaining it wasn't there. Tried to install the package, it's already there. Uninstall, install again, boom, it's working.
[23:10] <lordcirth__> MapMan, hmm, yeah, something must have been interrupted or corrupted.
[23:11] <MapMan> I'm gonna do a fresh install again, as to avoid similar problems in the future (who knows what else, and in what way, will explode?)
[23:11] <MapMan> lordcirth__: thanks for your help
[23:11] <pragmaticenigma> MapMan: when I do dev work with builds, I use VMs
[23:11] <pragmaticenigma> that way if the VM gets hosed, my main computer doesn't suffer
[23:12] <MapMan> lol, I now got compiler segfault
[23:12] <pragmaticenigma> Welcome to compiling open source...
[23:12] <MapMan> pragmaticenigma: I'm dual booting, exactly for that purpose. I was using xubuntu vm before but I need the performance + vm was causing problems of its own
[23:13] <MapMan> it's funny in a way because last time I extensively used linux env was about 10 years ago, running slack on my laptop
[23:13] <MapMan> and I'm having exactly the same kind of problems I did back then
[23:14] <MapMan> such as installer breaking MBR
[23:14] <MapMan> anyway, see you soon after I reinstall ;)
[23:44] <Guest74103> Hey, I had the messed up /var earlier
[23:45] <Guest74103> I wanted to say that after copying /var to a new place, I was able to reboot and fsck the older /var. Everything seems to work.
[23:46] <Guest74103> I had to reboot twice to get a working desktop, and networking somehow was dead during, but after the fsck apt worked well.
[23:46] <Guest74103> 'Twas a wild ride, thank you for helping me through it!