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lubot<SamuelBanya> That still begs the question of why not make a light weight variant. I feel like everyone has an old laptop lying around that they could utilize with a light weight music production distro but it's all good.12:49
lubot<SamuelBanya> I'm just happy to help Hans with packaging whenever I get spate time later this week12:50
lubot<SamuelBanya> Even my idea of a lightweight steam distro should be just replaced with contributing to Lakka anyway12:51
lubot<SamuelBanya> *spare12:51
lubot<SamuelBanya> Reaper is great, love that DAW12:51
lubot<brli7848> hmm, Ark is light enough?14:18
lynorianhow long do you have Ark open most of the time also?14:19
lynorianalso what would you replace it with14:19
lubot<brli7848> not much lol I see the point!14:19
lubot<brli7848> I go back to the xarvchiver14:20
lynorianyeah although xarchiver is a bit wierd14:29
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVE335a4da66935: DSC file for 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVE335a4da6693515:18
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVE1fd338fb13e8: Import patches-unapplied version 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/disco-proposed] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVE1fd338fb13e815:18
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVEeaccb615895a: Import patches-applied version 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1 to applied/ubuntu/disco…] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVEeaccb615895a15:18
wxlcan someone with a hardware install try to reproduce bug 1819009?20:48
ubot93Bug 1819009 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Terminal-Emulator shows no prompt when (console) program finished" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181900920:48
lubot<tsimonq2> I'll be late today, running errands21:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Y'all can go in the order that you arrive :)21:56
wxlhere's my little list22:03
wxl * Triaged bug 1801498 - originally won't fix, but upstream proposed solutions.22:03
wxl * Continued work on bug 1782984 - confirmed to be GTK2, but not sure of next step.22:03
wxl * Triaged bug 1819009 - does not occur on VM, needs to be confirmed on real hardware.22:03
ubot93Bug 1801498 in calamares (Ubuntu) "apparently unexpected order in language selection on welcome module" [Low, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180149822:03
ubot93Bug 1782984 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM crashes frequently  on Lubuntu 18.04" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178298422:03
ubot93Bug 1819009 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Terminal-Emulator shows no prompt when (console) program finished" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181900922:03
lubot<teward001> wxl: stupid question, but does it have to be an on-hardware install or will the LiveUSB environment work as a testbed for 1819009?22:05
wxl@teward001 worth a try, but it cannot be a vm.22:05
lubot<teward001> once my mirrors sync up for Lubuntu dailies I'll test a LiveUSB boot22:05
lubot<teward001> (ping me if I don't get back to you lol)22:06
wxlgreat. drop a comment on the bug if you can confirm it. 22:06
lubot<teward001> @wxl: failing that, I've got another SSD I can put in this thing that's clean and direct-install latest Lubuntu ISOs.  Assuming we have testable dailies around, that is.22:06
lubot<teward001> Or, is this replicateable with a test case on any of the ISOs?22:07
wxlif you can confirm it, to go to the nth level it'd be also interesting to ensure it does NOT happen with xenial and to also try it on a wide variety of terminals (OP said they can confirm with gnome-terminal but didn't mention anything else)22:07
lubot<teward001> (sorry to interject)22:07
lubot<teward001> wxl: nah, Xenial won't run on this system, too new.22:07
lubot<teward001> it'll explode graphically22:07
lubot<kc2bez> I can do an install if needed.22:07
lubot<teward001> bionic's the oldest I can go to on this laptop22:07
wxlwell that will be a good start at least22:07
wxlthe hardware it's being used on is a dell optiplex soooooooooooooooooo22:08
wxli might have one of those in the machine graveyard somewhere22:08
lubot<teward001> the hardware I'll be testing, time and energy permitting, is my XPS 15 :P22:08
wxlXD22:08
lubot<teward001> i can probably FIND an optiplex 9020 here at work somewhere if i have to though22:08
wxlthis is a 75522:08
lubot<kc2bez> I can see what I can dig up but most of what I have is hp.22:09
wxli do think i have one of those laying around22:09
tewardI can also test on an HP Z400 workstation so22:12
tewardthat might be the fastest solution to test with rather than swapping SSDs in my laptop lol22:12
tsimonq2Alright, heeeeeya22:13
tsimonq2I'll go last22:13
tsimonq2Who showed up next and has stuff to say?22:13
wxli'm done22:13
tsimonq2Cool22:13
tsimonq2Thanks wxl :)22:13
wxlnp22:14
lubot<kc2bez> I'm here. Not much to add though.22:14
tsimonq2Go ahead :)22:14
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lubot<kc2bez> No really. Not much more to add. Apologies.22:15
wxlXD22:15
wxlthanks for being there, dan22:16
tsimonq2No problem Dan, it's all good :)22:17
tsimonq2Anyone else around?22:17
guivercapologies for my taridness (44 mins to get logged in due something), but nothing to say anyway.22:17
tsimonq2*shoots a laser beam at @teward001&22:17
tsimonq2guiverc: It's all good, thanks :)22:17
wxlthanks guiverc good to see you :)22:17
wxlguiverc: you might want to take a look at my comments above since you love testing things so much :)22:18
guivercwxl - i missed it, will look up irclogs when they appear..22:19
wxlguiverc: bug 1819009 needs a test on real hardware.. can't replicate it on a vm22:19
ubot93Bug 1819009 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Terminal-Emulator shows no prompt when (console) program finished" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181900922:19
guiverci'd like to do more, but part is confidence; testing is easy, but I'm with it at times, other times I have trouble concencentrating (due medical crap; reason for confidence..)22:20
guivercthanks wxl - will look22:20
wxlguiverc: no problem. any help is good help :)22:22
lubot<SamuelBanya> Here's my update: Hans created a packaging task for port gtk related programs to qt. We are debating the approach of using a Python or bash script with regexes to determine if an app has gtk. I'll get to this later in the week. Thanks22:22
lubot<SamuelBanya> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T18822:23
lubot<SamuelBanya> That is the task I'm referring to22:23
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Apps that need to be ported to Qt: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T18822:23
tsimonq2Sweet :)22:25
wxlhuh cool22:25
tsimonq2 * CI work:22:26
tsimonq2   - Wrote the basic framework for the CI functionality, available here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-tooling/22:26
tsimonq2   - Metadata to make the CI DTRT is here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ - I have to do another layer of LXQt and then I can start fixing e.g. symbols on some things.22:26
tsimonq2   - This involved creating new ci/unstable branches in all of the repositories. Soon I plan on writing merger jobs so we don't have to update those manually, like we have to do right now.22:26
tsimonq2   - Created the ~lubuntu-ci Launchpad team and a GPG key for Lugito (which is on the server).22:26
tsimonq2   - Wrote some prototype code for "PPA Britney" which is going to be some glue sticking together the Britney used with the Ubuntu archive and Bileto to have a fully-functioning Britney instance running for the CI. It'll make sure the CI is always installable, at all times. https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ppa-britney/22:26
tsimonq2 * Spent some time mentoring two potential MOTUs, one of which I plan on advocating for when he finishes his application. I also approved an FFe given a Release Team delegation I have been given for the kubuntu packageset. Congrats to Walter, who is now a Lubuntu Developer. :D 22:26
tsimonq2 * Unfortunately, lot of my time has been taken up this week dealing with *several* (somewhat draining) general Ubuntu stuff, that's all internal. It should be solved soon. This is an embarassingly short week for me. :/22:26
tsimonq2 * On Monday, age++; for me - the following week is my spring break. The release is coming up very shortly, I'll do what I can to get as many ducks in a row as possible.22:26
tsimonq2 * I sponsored software-properties and lubuntu-default-settings for Hans.22:26
tsimonq2QED22:26
wxlis working with the CI going to have the same workflow as kubuntu?22:27
tsimonq2Very similar, but with some differences.22:27
tsimonq2One of which being we can actually read the code. XD22:27
wxli guess what i'm saying is as far as a potential packager is concerned are they going to see much difference?22:28
wxllike could the kubuntu folks swing over and jump right in?22:28
tsimonq2I'll turn on IRC notifications once I implement code that only finishes the job when the package is built. Right now it just rapid-fires uploads.22:28
tsimonq2Very, very similar end-user workflow.22:28
wxlexcellent22:28
tsimonq2Not identical by any means, but close enough.22:28
tsimonq2If anyone knows Python, help would be appreciated. :)22:29
tsimonq2Right now I'd consider the CI to be in "Alpha" stage.22:29
lubot<SamuelBanya> I know Python 3 if it helps22:29
tsimonq2Here's where the CI has been throwing packages at: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed/+packages22:30
lubot<SamuelBanya> Ill trade you with a question: is #ubuntu-devel an irc group I could join to ask about the automation question I had from last week?22:30
tsimonq2#ubuntu-desktop I think.22:30
lubot<SamuelBanya> I gotcha. Tried researching this last week but got a slightly older page that listed some of the irc channels but wanted to confirm22:31
tsimonq2Yup22:32
tsimonq2I'm done with my stuff :)22:32
tsimonq2Dinner time, cyaaaa22:32
wxlanyone else?22:37
lubot<lynorian> I am busy with scale but was preparing presentation and about to give it22:37
wxlooh can't wait to hear about it! enjoy it!!22:38
lubot<kc2bez> That is excellent @lynorian !22:38
lubot<lynorian> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3xYPO3q_g will be the live stream22:38
wxlooh!22:39
guivercfyi wxl:  so far I can't reproduce (and I'm not dell 755 [installed 18.04.2] like OP of bug report) but will keep at it..22:48
wxlguiverc: are you at least on real hardware with bionic something?22:49
guivercyep (x86_64).  currently also testing on dx6120 (18.04.2 x86) too22:50
wxlis that a live system or an installed system?22:51
guivercmy kernel is 4.18 on d755 (not 4.15), but hp dx6120 (x86) is 4.1522:51
guivercnope both are installed; haven't got to live yet22:51
wxlgreat22:52
lubot<teward001> wxl: looks like guidus and my USB stick don't get along23:44
lubot<teward001> let me find another stick23:44

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