 That still begs the question of why not make a light weight variant. I feel like everyone has an old laptop lying around that they could utilize with a light weight music production distro but it's all good.
 I'm just happy to help Hans with packaging whenever I get spate time later this week
 Even my idea of a lightweight steam distro should be just replaced with contributing to Lakka anyway
 *spare
 Reaper is great, love that DAW
 hmm, Ark is light enough?
[14:19] <lynorian> how long do you have Ark open most of the time also?
[14:19] <lynorian> also what would you replace it with
 not much lol I see the point!
 I go back to the xarvchiver
[14:29] <lynorian> yeah although xarchiver is a bit wierd
[15:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVE335a4da66935: DSC file for 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVE335a4da66935
[15:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVE1fd338fb13e8: Import patches-unapplied version 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/disco-proposed] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVE1fd338fb13e8
[15:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVEeaccb615895a: Import patches-applied version 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1 to applied/ubuntu/disco…] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVEeaccb615895a
[20:48] <wxl> can someone with a hardware install try to reproduce bug 1819009?
 I'll be late today, running errands
 Y'all can go in the order that you arrive :)
[22:03] <wxl> here's my little list
[22:03] <wxl>  * Triaged bug 1801498 - originally won't fix, but upstream proposed solutions.
[22:03] <wxl>  * Continued work on bug 1782984 - confirmed to be GTK2, but not sure of next step.
[22:03] <wxl>  * Triaged bug 1819009 - does not occur on VM, needs to be confirmed on real hardware.
 wxl: stupid question, but does it have to be an on-hardware install or will the LiveUSB environment work as a testbed for 1819009?
[22:05] <wxl> @teward001 worth a try, but it cannot be a vm.
 once my mirrors sync up for Lubuntu dailies I'll test a LiveUSB boot
 (ping me if I don't get back to you lol)
[22:06] <wxl> great. drop a comment on the bug if you can confirm it. 
 @wxl: failing that, I've got another SSD I can put in this thing that's clean and direct-install latest Lubuntu ISOs.  Assuming we have testable dailies around, that is.
 Or, is this replicateable with a test case on any of the ISOs?
[22:07] <wxl> if you can confirm it, to go to the nth level it'd be also interesting to ensure it does NOT happen with xenial and to also try it on a wide variety of terminals (OP said they can confirm with gnome-terminal but didn't mention anything else)
 (sorry to interject)
 wxl: nah, Xenial won't run on this system, too new.
 it'll explode graphically
 I can do an install if needed.
 bionic's the oldest I can go to on this laptop
[22:07] <wxl> well that will be a good start at least
[22:08] <wxl> the hardware it's being used on is a dell optiplex soooooooooooooooooo
[22:08] <wxl> i might have one of those in the machine graveyard somewhere
 the hardware I'll be testing, time and energy permitting, is my XPS 15 :P
[22:08] <wxl> XD
 i can probably FIND an optiplex 9020 here at work somewhere if i have to though
[22:08] <wxl> this is a 755
 I can see what I can dig up but most of what I have is hp.
[22:09] <wxl> i do think i have one of those laying around
[22:12] <teward> I can also test on an HP Z400 workstation so
[22:12] <teward> that might be the fastest solution to test with rather than swapping SSDs in my laptop lol
[22:13] <tsimonq2> Alright, heeeeeya
[22:13] <tsimonq2> I'll go last
[22:13] <tsimonq2> Who showed up next and has stuff to say?
[22:13] <wxl> i'm done
[22:13] <tsimonq2> Cool
[22:13] <tsimonq2> Thanks wxl :)
[22:14] <wxl> np
 I'm here. Not much to add though.
[22:14] <tsimonq2> Go ahead :)
 No really. Not much more to add. Apologies.
[22:15] <wxl> XD
[22:16] <wxl> thanks for being there, dan
[22:17] <tsimonq2> No problem Dan, it's all good :)
[22:17] <tsimonq2> Anyone else around?
[22:17] <guiverc> apologies for my taridness (44 mins to get logged in due something), but nothing to say anyway.
[22:17] <tsimonq2> *shoots a laser beam at @teward001&
[22:17] <tsimonq2> guiverc: It's all good, thanks :)
[22:17] <wxl> thanks guiverc good to see you :)
[22:18] <wxl> guiverc: you might want to take a look at my comments above since you love testing things so much :)
[22:19] <guiverc> wxl - i missed it, will look up irclogs when they appear..
[22:19] <wxl> guiverc: bug 1819009 needs a test on real hardware.. can't replicate it on a vm
[22:20] <guiverc> i'd like to do more, but part is confidence; testing is easy, but I'm with it at times, other times I have trouble concencentrating (due medical crap; reason for confidence..)
[22:20] <guiverc> thanks wxl - will look
[22:22] <wxl> guiverc: no problem. any help is good help :)
 Here's my update: Hans created a packaging task for port gtk related programs to qt. We are debating the approach of using a Python or bash script with regexes to determine if an app has gtk. I'll get to this later in the week. Thanks
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T188
 That is the task I'm referring to
[22:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Apps that need to be ported to Qt: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T188
[22:25] <tsimonq2> Sweet :)
[22:25] <wxl> huh cool
[22:26] <tsimonq2>  * CI work:
[22:26] <tsimonq2>    - Wrote the basic framework for the CI functionality, available here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-tooling/
[22:26] <tsimonq2>    - Metadata to make the CI DTRT is here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ - I have to do another layer of LXQt and then I can start fixing e.g. symbols on some things.
[22:26] <tsimonq2>    - This involved creating new ci/unstable branches in all of the repositories. Soon I plan on writing merger jobs so we don't have to update those manually, like we have to do right now.
[22:26] <tsimonq2>    - Created the ~lubuntu-ci Launchpad team and a GPG key for Lugito (which is on the server).
[22:26] <tsimonq2>    - Wrote some prototype code for "PPA Britney" which is going to be some glue sticking together the Britney used with the Ubuntu archive and Bileto to have a fully-functioning Britney instance running for the CI. It'll make sure the CI is always installable, at all times. https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ppa-britney/
[22:26] <tsimonq2>  * Spent some time mentoring two potential MOTUs, one of which I plan on advocating for when he finishes his application. I also approved an FFe given a Release Team delegation I have been given for the kubuntu packageset. Congrats to Walter, who is now a Lubuntu Developer. :D 
[22:26] <tsimonq2>  * Unfortunately, lot of my time has been taken up this week dealing with *several* (somewhat draining) general Ubuntu stuff, that's all internal. It should be solved soon. This is an embarassingly short week for me. :/
[22:26] <tsimonq2>  * On Monday, age++; for me - the following week is my spring break. The release is coming up very shortly, I'll do what I can to get as many ducks in a row as possible.
[22:26] <tsimonq2>  * I sponsored software-properties and lubuntu-default-settings for Hans.
[22:26] <tsimonq2> QED
[22:27] <wxl> is working with the CI going to have the same workflow as kubuntu?
[22:27] <tsimonq2> Very similar, but with some differences.
[22:27] <tsimonq2> One of which being we can actually read the code. XD
[22:28] <wxl> i guess what i'm saying is as far as a potential packager is concerned are they going to see much difference?
[22:28] <wxl> like could the kubuntu folks swing over and jump right in?
[22:28] <tsimonq2> I'll turn on IRC notifications once I implement code that only finishes the job when the package is built. Right now it just rapid-fires uploads.
[22:28] <tsimonq2> Very, very similar end-user workflow.
[22:28] <wxl> excellent
[22:28] <tsimonq2> Not identical by any means, but close enough.
[22:29] <tsimonq2> If anyone knows Python, help would be appreciated. :)
[22:29] <tsimonq2> Right now I'd consider the CI to be in "Alpha" stage.
 I know Python 3 if it helps
[22:30] <tsimonq2> Here's where the CI has been throwing packages at: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed/+packages
 Ill trade you with a question: is #ubuntu-devel an irc group I could join to ask about the automation question I had from last week?
[22:30] <tsimonq2> #ubuntu-desktop I think.
 I gotcha. Tried researching this last week but got a slightly older page that listed some of the irc channels but wanted to confirm
[22:32] <tsimonq2> Yup
[22:32] <tsimonq2> I'm done with my stuff :)
[22:32] <tsimonq2> Dinner time, cyaaaa
[22:37] <wxl> anyone else?
 I am busy with scale but was preparing presentation and about to give it
[22:38] <wxl> ooh can't wait to hear about it! enjoy it!!
 That is excellent @lynorian !
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3xYPO3q_g will be the live stream
[22:39] <wxl> ooh!
[22:48] <guiverc> fyi wxl:  so far I can't reproduce (and I'm not dell 755 [installed 18.04.2] like OP of bug report) but will keep at it..
[22:49] <wxl> guiverc: are you at least on real hardware with bionic something?
[22:50] <guiverc> yep (x86_64).  currently also testing on dx6120 (18.04.2 x86) too
[22:51] <wxl> is that a live system or an installed system?
[22:51] <guiverc> my kernel is 4.18 on d755 (not 4.15), but hp dx6120 (x86) is 4.15
[22:51] <guiverc> nope both are installed; haven't got to live yet
[22:52] <wxl> great
 wxl: looks like guidus and my USB stick don't get along
 let me find another stick