[12:49] That still begs the question of why not make a light weight variant. I feel like everyone has an old laptop lying around that they could utilize with a light weight music production distro but it's all good. [12:50] I'm just happy to help Hans with packaging whenever I get spate time later this week [12:51] Even my idea of a lightweight steam distro should be just replaced with contributing to Lakka anyway [12:51] *spare [12:51] Reaper is great, love that DAW [14:18] hmm, Ark is light enough? [14:19] how long do you have Ark open most of the time also? [14:19] also what would you replace it with [14:19] not much lol I see the point! [14:20] I go back to the xarvchiver [14:29] yeah although xarchiver is a bit wierd [15:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVE335a4da66935: DSC file for 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVE335a4da66935 [15:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVE1fd338fb13e8: Import patches-unapplied version 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/disco-proposed] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVE1fd338fb13e8 [15:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rKCALCARCHIVEeaccb615895a: Import patches-applied version 4:18.12.3-0ubuntu1 to applied/ubuntu/disco…] rikmills (Rik Mills) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rKCALCARCHIVEeaccb615895a [20:48] can someone with a hardware install try to reproduce bug 1819009? [20:48] Bug 1819009 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Terminal-Emulator shows no prompt when (console) program finished" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819009 [21:53] I'll be late today, running errands [21:56] Y'all can go in the order that you arrive :) [22:03] here's my little list [22:03] * Triaged bug 1801498 - originally won't fix, but upstream proposed solutions. [22:03] * Continued work on bug 1782984 - confirmed to be GTK2, but not sure of next step. [22:03] * Triaged bug 1819009 - does not occur on VM, needs to be confirmed on real hardware. [22:03] Bug 1801498 in calamares (Ubuntu) "apparently unexpected order in language selection on welcome module" [Low, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801498 [22:03] Bug 1782984 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM crashes frequently on Lubuntu 18.04" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1782984 [22:03] Bug 1819009 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Terminal-Emulator shows no prompt when (console) program finished" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819009 [22:05] wxl: stupid question, but does it have to be an on-hardware install or will the LiveUSB environment work as a testbed for 1819009? [22:05] @teward001 worth a try, but it cannot be a vm. [22:05] once my mirrors sync up for Lubuntu dailies I'll test a LiveUSB boot [22:06] (ping me if I don't get back to you lol) [22:06] great. drop a comment on the bug if you can confirm it. [22:06] @wxl: failing that, I've got another SSD I can put in this thing that's clean and direct-install latest Lubuntu ISOs. Assuming we have testable dailies around, that is. [22:07] Or, is this replicateable with a test case on any of the ISOs? [22:07] if you can confirm it, to go to the nth level it'd be also interesting to ensure it does NOT happen with xenial and to also try it on a wide variety of terminals (OP said they can confirm with gnome-terminal but didn't mention anything else) [22:07] (sorry to interject) [22:07] wxl: nah, Xenial won't run on this system, too new. [22:07] it'll explode graphically [22:07] I can do an install if needed. [22:07] bionic's the oldest I can go to on this laptop [22:07] well that will be a good start at least [22:08] the hardware it's being used on is a dell optiplex soooooooooooooooooo [22:08] i might have one of those in the machine graveyard somewhere [22:08] the hardware I'll be testing, time and energy permitting, is my XPS 15 :P [22:08] XD [22:08] i can probably FIND an optiplex 9020 here at work somewhere if i have to though [22:08] this is a 755 [22:09] I can see what I can dig up but most of what I have is hp. [22:09] i do think i have one of those laying around [22:12] I can also test on an HP Z400 workstation so [22:12] that might be the fastest solution to test with rather than swapping SSDs in my laptop lol [22:13] Alright, heeeeeya [22:13] I'll go last [22:13] Who showed up next and has stuff to say? [22:13] i'm done [22:13] Cool [22:13] Thanks wxl :) [22:14] np [22:14] I'm here. Not much to add though. [22:14] Go ahead :) === guiverc_d is now known as guiverc [22:15] No really. Not much more to add. Apologies. [22:15] XD [22:16] thanks for being there, dan [22:17] No problem Dan, it's all good :) [22:17] Anyone else around? [22:17] apologies for my taridness (44 mins to get logged in due something), but nothing to say anyway. [22:17] *shoots a laser beam at @teward001& [22:17] guiverc: It's all good, thanks :) [22:17] thanks guiverc good to see you :) [22:18] guiverc: you might want to take a look at my comments above since you love testing things so much :) [22:19] wxl - i missed it, will look up irclogs when they appear.. [22:19] guiverc: bug 1819009 needs a test on real hardware.. can't replicate it on a vm [22:19] Bug 1819009 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Terminal-Emulator shows no prompt when (console) program finished" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819009 [22:20] i'd like to do more, but part is confidence; testing is easy, but I'm with it at times, other times I have trouble concencentrating (due medical crap; reason for confidence..) [22:20] thanks wxl - will look [22:22] guiverc: no problem. any help is good help :) [22:22] Here's my update: Hans created a packaging task for port gtk related programs to qt. We are debating the approach of using a Python or bash script with regexes to determine if an app has gtk. I'll get to this later in the week. Thanks [22:23] https://phab.lubuntu.me/T188 [22:23] That is the task I'm referring to [22:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Apps that need to be ported to Qt: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T188 [22:25] Sweet :) [22:25] huh cool [22:26] * CI work: [22:26] - Wrote the basic framework for the CI functionality, available here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-tooling/ [22:26] - Metadata to make the CI DTRT is here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ - I have to do another layer of LXQt and then I can start fixing e.g. symbols on some things. [22:26] - This involved creating new ci/unstable branches in all of the repositories. Soon I plan on writing merger jobs so we don't have to update those manually, like we have to do right now. [22:26] - Created the ~lubuntu-ci Launchpad team and a GPG key for Lugito (which is on the server). [22:26] - Wrote some prototype code for "PPA Britney" which is going to be some glue sticking together the Britney used with the Ubuntu archive and Bileto to have a fully-functioning Britney instance running for the CI. It'll make sure the CI is always installable, at all times. https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ppa-britney/ [22:26] * Spent some time mentoring two potential MOTUs, one of which I plan on advocating for when he finishes his application. I also approved an FFe given a Release Team delegation I have been given for the kubuntu packageset. Congrats to Walter, who is now a Lubuntu Developer. :D [22:26] * Unfortunately, lot of my time has been taken up this week dealing with *several* (somewhat draining) general Ubuntu stuff, that's all internal. It should be solved soon. This is an embarassingly short week for me. :/ [22:26] * On Monday, age++; for me - the following week is my spring break. The release is coming up very shortly, I'll do what I can to get as many ducks in a row as possible. [22:26] * I sponsored software-properties and lubuntu-default-settings for Hans. [22:26] QED [22:27] is working with the CI going to have the same workflow as kubuntu? [22:27] Very similar, but with some differences. [22:27] One of which being we can actually read the code. XD [22:28] i guess what i'm saying is as far as a potential packager is concerned are they going to see much difference? [22:28] like could the kubuntu folks swing over and jump right in? [22:28] I'll turn on IRC notifications once I implement code that only finishes the job when the package is built. Right now it just rapid-fires uploads. [22:28] Very, very similar end-user workflow. [22:28] excellent [22:28] Not identical by any means, but close enough. [22:29] If anyone knows Python, help would be appreciated. :) [22:29] Right now I'd consider the CI to be in "Alpha" stage. [22:29] I know Python 3 if it helps [22:30] Here's where the CI has been throwing packages at: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed/+packages [22:30] Ill trade you with a question: is #ubuntu-devel an irc group I could join to ask about the automation question I had from last week? [22:30] #ubuntu-desktop I think. [22:31] I gotcha. Tried researching this last week but got a slightly older page that listed some of the irc channels but wanted to confirm [22:32] Yup [22:32] I'm done with my stuff :) [22:32] Dinner time, cyaaaa [22:37] anyone else? [22:37] I am busy with scale but was preparing presentation and about to give it [22:38] ooh can't wait to hear about it! enjoy it!! [22:38] That is excellent @lynorian ! [22:38] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3xYPO3q_g will be the live stream [22:39] ooh! [22:48] fyi wxl: so far I can't reproduce (and I'm not dell 755 [installed 18.04.2] like OP of bug report) but will keep at it.. [22:49] guiverc: are you at least on real hardware with bionic something? [22:50] yep (x86_64). currently also testing on dx6120 (18.04.2 x86) too [22:51] is that a live system or an installed system? [22:51] my kernel is 4.18 on d755 (not 4.15), but hp dx6120 (x86) is 4.15 [22:51] nope both are installed; haven't got to live yet [22:52] great [23:44] wxl: looks like guidus and my USB stick don't get along [23:44] let me find another stick