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vorlon#startmeeting16:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Mar  7 16:01:34 2019 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:01
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vorlon[TOPIC] Lightning round16:01
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
vorlon$ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)16:01
vorlondoko sil2100 infinity rbalint bdmurray xnox mwhudson cyphermox juliank vorlon tdaitx waveform16:01
dokofirst time 1st16:02
dokoand didn't prepare an update ... so openjdk-11 transition & toolchain work16:02
doko(done)16:02
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases16:02
sil2100- Kernel reviews and releases, lots!16:02
sil2100- Last week: 16.04.616:02
sil2100- This week: 14.04.6 - and it's out now!16:02
sil2100- Lots of package copies and reviews for the OpenJDK-11 bionic transition16:02
sil2100- Some minor changes to the purge-count cdimage MP, thanks Steve for merging!16:03
sil2100- Working around checksum-directory limitations in the image archival scripting16:03
sil2100- Tomorrow: out of office o/16:03
sil2100(done)16:03
rbalinto/.16:03
bdmurrayrbalint: does that mean you are ready?16:04
rbalint* partner work16:04
rbalint* uploaded wireshark 2.6.7-1 through Debian16:04
rbalint* packaged wslu for Disco16:05
rbalint* gardened wsl bugs in LP16:05
rbalint* fixed regresion in Disco's acpid16:05
rbalint(done)16:05
bdmurrayreported bug regarding postgresql charm (LP: #1818145)16:05
bdmurraytested new postgresql charm in ET mojo spec (success!)16:05
bdmurraytested IS changes to ET mojo spec (fail :-( )16:05
bdmurraysubmitted MP which fixes that (ET mojo spec)16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818145 in PostgreSQL Charm "check_lastest_ready_wal.py fails" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181814516:05
bdmurrayresearch into how nbs report and checkrdepends works16:05
bdmurrayuploaded new version of distro-info that only shows LTSes for supported-esm16:05
bdmurraystarted SRU of distro-info and distro-info-data16:05
bdmurraySRU verification of apport SRUs for 18.0416:05
bdmurrayresearch into gdb issues in disco16:05
bdmurrayreported gdb bug re: debug-file-directory (LP: #1818918)16:05
bdmurrayspecial SRU review of curtin16:05
bdmurraydiscussed machine readable rls reports with will cooke16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818918 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb doesn't search in debug-file-directory for .gnu_debugaltlink" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181891816:05
bdmurraydone but no check mark b/c something sucks16:06
bdmurrayxnox:16:06
xnox* short week, was out tue-mon since malta16:06
xnox* openssl 1.1.1b uploaded & migrated16:06
xnox* zkey fixes for automation (needed for installers)16:06
xnox* validating / sheparding openssl/s390x SRUs16:06
xnox* prototyping rebootspeed16:06
xnox* send kernel autopkgtest fixes for review to the kernel team16:06
xnoxDONE16:06
cyphermoxfinished grub2 merge -- uploaded after fixing my bad pointer math16:06
cyphermoxinvestigating grub theming / menu changes16:06
cyphermoxpreparing SRU for grub2 conffile fixes16:06
cyphermoxcode review open PRs for netplan16:06
vorlonsharphed16:06
cyphermoxnetplan.io 0.96 tagging + prepare upload for disco16:06
cyphermoxsponsored carla package for e.eickmeyer16:06
cyphermoxclarifying upstream systemd "ActivationMode=" PR + rebase16:06
cyphermox(done)16:06
juliankoh, it's my time!16:08
juliank* APT16:08
juliank - Fixed a few bugs in never pinning in apt/trusty git branch16:08
juliank - Uploaded SRUs for all releases16:08
juliank - SRU verifications16:08
juliank - Another small fix and translation updates for 1.8.0 (release ETA tomorrow)16:08
juliank - auth.conf.d directory is missing (LP: #1818996)16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818996 in apt (Ubuntu Disco) "auth.conf.d directory missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181899616:08
juliank - seemed like auth.conf.d support in trusty and xenial did not work for https, only http; turned out I forgot to upgrade apt-transport-https to proposed ...16:08
juliank* PackageKit:16:08
juliank - Merge new version from unstable16:08
juliank - Forwarded frontend-locking patch to upstream16:08
juliank - SRU crash fix to bionic and cosmic (LP: #1818201)16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818201 in packagekit (Ubuntu Cosmic) "packagekitd crashed with SIGSEGV in __memmove_{sse2,avx}_unaligned_erms() from std::char_traits<char>::copy() from ... from show_errors (errorCode=PK_ERROR_ENUM_CANNOT_FETCH_SOURCES)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181820116:08
juliank* autopkgtest-cloud: Change request.cgi to sort printed fields by name, so output is in stable order16:08
juliank* python-mechanicalsoup: Fixed tests, forwarded to Debian16:08
juliank* apport:16:08
juliank  - Introduce support for non-positional arguments (LP: #1732962)16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1732962 in apport (Ubuntu Cosmic) "apport uses sys.argv instead of named arguments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173296216:08
juliank  - Fixup for style issue in yesterday's upload that broke the build16:08
juliank* livecd-rootfs/bionic: new minimize-manual merge proposal https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/36393216:08
juliank* update-notifier / apt esm hook thinking, fixes16:08
juliank(ubottu is a bit slow..)16:08
juliank(done)16:09
vorlon * assist with openjdk-11 SRUs16:09
vorlon * full SRU day last Friday, made some progress on the queues16:09
vorlon * discussions around SecureBoot signing of FIPS kernels16:09
vorlon * discussions around trusty ESM transition16:09
vorlon * TB business16:09
vorlon(done)16:09
tdaitx* openjdk-11 bionic security transition16:09
tdaitx  - reviewed and uploaded packages16:09
tdaitx  - bump & rebuild arch specific packages16:09
tdaitx  - updated list of packages that also need Cosmic SRU16:09
tdaitx    - 153 packages16:09
tdaitx    - 9 are arch specific (no binary copies)16:09
tdaitxOther:16:09
tdaitx- travelling back home on Saturday early morning16:09
tdaitx- wondered if the bot can handle the openjdk transition bug, decided not to try16:09
tdaitx- (done)16:10
waveform* Reading up on ARM TrustZone (specifically in relation to pi3)16:10
waveform* Testing wimpress' bluetooth fixes on classic & core (not finished core yet)16:10
waveform* Verified u-boot-tools SRU16:10
waveform* Added Pi-specific permissions to linux-firmware-raspi216:10
waveform* Added hacks from Malta to livecd-rootfs to reduce boot time, and ensure getty starts after cloud-init's done16:10
waveform* Moving Pi-specific hacks from livecd-rootfs to linux-firmware-raspi2 (need to test upgrade path)16:10
waveform* gpiozero 1.5 tested; needs colorzero (also tested) importing (upstream? SRU?)16:10
waveform* Did I mention the reading up on ARM TrustZone? Well, more of that...16:10
waveform(done)16:10
gaughenpause for an argument about fortnite16:11
bdmurrayI was disappointed we didn't do the dance off gaughen16:12
rbalintgaughen, is it snapped?16:12
vorlonany questions over status?16:13
cyphermoxcan we patent our pattern of discussion?16:13
cyphermoxsince we're essentially talking about copyright and trademark, etc.16:14
vorlonwaveform: are the livecd-rootfs changes hacks, or real fixes? :)16:14
waveformvorlon, some are "fixes" or even just downright configuration, but they're definitely "hacks" in the way they're implemented!16:14
tdaitxwaveform: don't answer that, it is a trick16:15
vorlonheh16:15
vorlon[TOPIC] Bugs16:15
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs
vorlon[LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:15
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/181709716:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1817097 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "pvmove causes file system corruption without notice upon move from 512 -> 4096 logical block size devices" [Critical,New]16:15
bdmurraycyphermox: It doesn't look like bug 1794292 was fixed in cosmic, it should be SRu'ed right?16:15
ubottubug 1794292 in plymouth (Ubuntu Cosmic) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in /sbin/plymouthd:11 in ply_renderer_set_handler_for_input_source -> ply_keyboard_stop_watching_for_renderer_input -> ply_keyboard_stop_watching_for_input -> ply_device_manager_deactivate_keyboards -> on_deactivate" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179429216:15
vorlonxnox: so isn't that a kernel bug?16:16
cyphermoxbdmurray: yes16:16
bdmurraycyphermox: there are still 12k crashes for Cosmic16:16
cyphermoxyep16:16
bdmurraycyphermox: is that something you'll take then?16:16
cyphermoxyep.16:16
cyphermoxnow we have nice shiny upstream-blessed patches too16:16
bdmurraycyphermox: feel free to ping me if you upload something16:16
bdmurraybug 1818890 was reported the other day16:19
ubottubug 1818890 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[disco] After installation, all the default languages are installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181889016:19
bdmurrayThat seems worth fixing16:19
cyphermoxwat, again?16:19
sil2100cyphermox: you have context on that one?16:20
cyphermoxwell, I'm pretty sure we've seen that happen before16:20
cyphermoxit's common class of problems, where packages aren't being removed correctly after install16:20
bdmurrayI'll target it and card it16:21
vorlonthanks16:21
bdmurraybug 1817862 should probably be carded too based of seb's comment16:22
ubottubug 1817862 in update-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/bin/update-manager:RuntimeError(org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.RuntimeError):_on_clicked:_deferable:_convert_dbus_exception..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181786216:22
xnoxargh16:22
vorlonfwiw when I noticed the desktop image got bigger recently, analysis of the packages showed language packs turning up in the manifest which hadn't been there in the image earlier this year16:22
vorlonwhich may mask the actual problem, or may be related16:23
vorlonbdmurray: agreed, though the traceback looks generic and useless16:23
vorlon(and the bug title makes the reports ugly :)16:23
bdmurrayshould the error tracker just limit the title to 42 characters or so?16:24
vorlonwfm16:24
vorlon(low priority though)16:24
cyphermoxvorlon: langpacks in manifest may actually be why it's a problem16:24
vorloncyphermox: ack16:24
cyphermoxsomething with shipped vs. live, we'll see16:25
bdmurrayseb also tagged bug 1817619 but I haven't looked into it yet16:25
ubottubug 1817619 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Update causes 30 sec boot delay on EFI system, with NVMe and LVM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181761916:25
vorlonuh16:25
vorlonhow is that not a duplicate of the bugs I closed invalid?16:25
vorlonanswer: it is but has not been marked such16:26
cyphermoxindeed16:26
vorlonI'll take care of it16:26
vorlonbdmurray: next?16:27
didrocksbdmurray: vorlon: I've already done the analyzes of bug #181889, you can give it to me16:27
ubottubug 181889 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (Ubuntu) "special buttons on Fujitsu tablets doesn't work anymore" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18188916:27
didrocks(not related to the image size increase though, IMHO)16:28
bdmurrayvorlon: that's it from me16:28
vorlon[TOPIC] Proposed-migration16:28
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Proposed-migration
vorlon[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:28
bdmurraydidrocks: is that the right number?16:28
vorlonglibc is out of the way now16:29
didrocksbdmurray: sorry, missing one digit: bug #181889016:29
ubottubug 1818890 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[disco] After installation, all the default languages are installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181889016:29
* didrocks vanishes and let you continue your meeting16:29
vorlonah and it looks like openssl + r-cran-openssl got sorted too16:29
vorlonso it's a short list16:29
rbalinti'm triaging curl->ruby-rack16:29
bdmurraycyphermox: ^^16:30
vorlonpillow still waiting for an MIR16:30
dokopython-scipy regressed in the release pocket as well, afaics16:30
vorlonrbalint: ok.  I've prodded the Server Team about the fact that we maybe want to remove the whole rails stack instead of trying to play whack-a-mole with these packages we can't maintain and we believe no one uses16:30
vorlonbut I haven't seen any action from them yet wrt socializing this plan16:30
rbalintvorlon, i'm +1 on that for disco16:30
vorlonrbalint: unfortunately it doesn't unblock curl any quicker because ruby-rack is quite deep in the stack so it would take a while to unwind, unless you think this particular regression is ignorable16:31
cyphermoxvorlon: so who will write the pillow MIR?16:31
vorloncyphermox: is it not written yet?  I assumed doko had a handle on this16:32
cyphermoxtypically it's nice to not write your own, since it makes it a little weird to also review it ;)16:32
cyphermoxwell, if doko wants to write it, I'll review16:32
cyphermoxor the other way around16:32
rbalintvorlon, i'll be back with and answer for curl16:32
vorloncyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libimagequant/+bug/1812858 ?16:32
cyphermoxI couldn't find a bug for it16:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1812858 in libimagequant (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libimagequant (dependency of pillow)" [Undecided,New]16:32
cyphermoxah16:32
cyphermoxwell, libimagequant is fine, waiting for security review. top of the queue iirc16:32
vorlonlintian is an issue with the new autopkgtests having become consistently slower and now hitting timeouts16:33
vorlonthis was a post-freeze sync by a community member, who I have asked to own this; I don't feel any responsibility for getting lintian 2.9.1 in until this is resolved16:33
vorlondoko: if python-scipy has regressed also in release, do you want to follow up with me on #ubuntu-release after this to get it badtested?16:34
vorlonxnox: fuse-zip/s390x + fuse, does that need attention?16:35
dokovorlon: but later tonight. afk atter the meeting16:35
vorlonok16:35
vorlonxnox: fuse-zip/s390x?16:37
xnoxpossibly16:37
xnoxwhat's wrong?16:37
vorlondo you want to take it?16:37
vorlonfailing autopkgtest16:37
vorlonxnox: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/f/fuse-zip/disco/s390x16:37
vorlondoko: do you know anything about the epsilon regression w/ new python-defaults?16:39
dokovorlon: that's the new kernel, changed diskstats16:40
dokoI'm looking at that one16:40
vorlonok16:40
vorlonI think that's everything that needs attention currently16:40
vorlon[TOPIC] AOB16:40
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vorlonanything else?16:40
vorlon#endmeeting16:42
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Mar  7 16:42:59 2019 UTC.16:42
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-03-07-16.01.moin.txt16:42
vorlonthanks, all!16:43
tsimonq2o/20:01
Kiloso/20:01
Wild_Mano/20:02
nzoueidihey folks20:02
Kilosaw genii  sleeping so no coffee20:04
nzoueidiokay the UMB are here, so we can start20:04
nzoueidijust to check frederik-f are you here?20:04
Kilosfrederik-f  ping20:05
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Wild_Manhello frederik-f20:08
frederik-f1Hi!20:08
Kiloshi20:08
nzoueidiHey there20:09
nzoueidiokay, tsimonq2 are you here?20:09
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tsimonq2Yup20:09
nzoueidicool, let's start then \o/20:10
nzoueidi#startmeeting 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting20:10
Kilosyip20:10
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Mar  7 20:10:11 2019 UTC.  The chair is nzoueidi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:10
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick20:10
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nzoueidiHey people, welcome to the Membership Board Meeting20:10
nzoueidiThe wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards.20:10
nzoueidiWe will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting and while we have only frederik-f20:11
nzoueidiThen it is good and a quick meeting :D20:11
frederik-f:) cool20:11
nzoueidifrederik-f, you need to introduce themselves (1-5 sentences)20:11
nzoueidiand provide for us your wiki page link and the LP account20:12
nzoueidi#topic frederik-f20:12
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | <wxl> be nice | 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: frederik-f
frederik-fOkay! Hello, I am Frederik, living in Germany, working as java dev in my daily work, and contributed to the Yaru theme a lot20:12
frederik-fThis is my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrederikFeichtmeier20:12
Wild_Manfrederik-f, how long have you been contributing?20:13
frederik-fMy launchpad page is very empty and not very exiting because I contributed mainly on github, because that is where all the yaru stuff happens :(20:13
frederik-fI contribute since beginning of 2017 to yaru20:13
nzoueidi#voters Wild_Man Kilos tsimonq2 nzoueidi20:14
meetingologyCurrent voters: Kilos Wild_Man nzoueidi tsimonq220:14
nzoueidiif anyone have any question for frederik-f please go ahead20:14
Wild_ManI looked at github and that is when I thought you started contributing just wanted to make sure20:14
nzoueidiand if there is anyone here that is supporting the application of frederik-f  to the Ubuntu Membership, please show up :D20:14
frederik-fThis is my launchpad page, but is very empty: https://launchpad.net/~frederik-feichtmeier20:15
frederik-fAll my PRs are on github :(20:15
frederik-fhttps://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/graphs/contributors20:16
frederik-fMy name is "Feichtmeier" on github20:16
nzoueidiI have some questions, why aren't you involved into the Germany LoCo team?20:16
frederik-fI actually do not know what it is :(20:17
frederik-fI started to contribute to the Ubuntu theme, because I thought they needed help back then when it started.20:17
frederik-fI can surely help, I will google what it is20:17
nzoueidisure, np20:18
nzoueidihere is the link for the LoCo team in Germany: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-de-locoteam/20:18
nzoueidiI like your github profile. Keep up the good work20:18
Kilosimpressive frederik-f20:19
Wild_Manimpressive indeed20:19
frederik-fI hope you like the yaru theme :)20:19
frederik-fI will try to attend to LoCo, just googled it!20:20
nzoueidiany other question from the board?20:21
Kilosjoin them20:21
Kilosnope i am happy20:21
Wild_ManNo20:21
nzoueidiwhat about you tsimonq2?20:21
tsimonq2No questions here.20:22
nzoueidialrighty20:22
nzoueidi#votesrequired 420:22
meetingologyvotes now need 4 to be passed20:22
nzoueidi#vote for frederik-f  Membership!20:22
meetingologyPlease vote on: for frederik-f  Membership!20:22
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:22
Kilos+1 keep up the good work20:22
meetingology+1 keep up the good work received from Kilos20:22
Wild_Man+120:22
nzoueidi+1 from me, keep it up frederik-f :)20:22
meetingology+1 received from Wild_Man20:22
meetingology+1 from me, keep it up frederik-f :) received from nzoueidi20:22
diddledandang, I'm late20:23
Kiloslol20:23
* nzoueidi pinging tsimonq2 to vote :P20:24
diddledan+1 if I were to be included in the voters list, but I arrived late, so I don't count :-p20:25
Kilostsimonq2  we await your vote20:25
nzoueidihe is afk I think20:25
tsimonq2Oh20:25
tsimonq2Sorry20:25
tsimonq2+120:25
meetingology+1 received from tsimonq220:25
nzoueidixD20:25
nzoueidiit is okay20:25
nzoueidi#endvote20:25
meetingologyVoting ended on: for frederik-f  Membership!20:25
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:25
meetingologyMotion carried20:25
nzoueidicongratulations frederik-f and welcome aboard :)20:26
toddyCongrats frederik-f and if you have any questions about the German LoCo Team than you can ask me everything. :)20:26
tsimonq2Congrats!20:26
frederik-fWoah thank you!20:26
Kilosfrederik-f  welcome aboard20:26
diddledanawesome!20:26
frederik-fTime for a beer! :D Thank you very much20:26
Wild_ManCongrats frederik-f20:26
* nzoueidi going to add frederik-f to ~ubuntumembers20:26
nzoueidiThank you guys for assisting this meeting and have a good night20:27
frederik-ftoddy: thank you, I will! Here? Or anywhere else? Sorry I am a big IRC noob20:27
frederik-fI had hard times to register my nickname20:27
Kiloslol20:27
nzoueidi#Endmeeting20:28
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Mar  7 20:28:16 2019 UTC.20:28
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sarnoldfrederik-f: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers  :)20:29
frederik-fCheers! Thank you!20:30
Kiloscheers20:31
Wild_Manfrederik-f, you have been added20:33
frederik-fThank you!20:33
Wild_ManYour welcome!20:33
frederik-fI will leave Thunderbird IRC now! Thank you very much for letting me in20:40
Kiloslol you welcome20:40
Kilosdont forget irc now20:40
Kilosyou use kde?20:40
frederik-fI wont! No I use Ubuntu "vanilla" - need to test the yaru stuff :)20:40
Kilosoh no i am thinking of konversation20:41
Kiloskeep it up20:41
diddledan`snap install irccloud` :-)20:42
frederik-fah! Well I tried polari but now that I "returned" full mozilla again, after I threw google of my PC, I thought I try thunderbird IRC, but yeah, maybe I should try something else :D20:42
Kiloslol i use thunderbird for mail only20:43
Kilosyou can try exchat20:43
Kiloshexchat20:43
Kilosbroken H20:43
frederik-fEx-chat would also be a nice brand :D20:43
diddledanthat's a snap too :-)20:43
Kiloslol20:43
frederik-fChat with all your "Ex's" O.o20:44
Kilosnono you end up sleeping with the dogs20:44
frederik-fhaha20:44
frederik-fokay, now really goodbye, thank you guys20:44

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