[16:00] * vorlon waves [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:01] o/ [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Thu Mar 7 16:01:34 2019 UTC. The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:01] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:01] [TOPIC] Lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round [16:01] $ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) [16:01] doko sil2100 infinity rbalint bdmurray xnox mwhudson cyphermox juliank vorlon tdaitx waveform [16:02] first time 1st [16:02] and didn't prepare an update ... so openjdk-11 transition & toolchain work [16:02] (done) [16:02] - SRU reviews and releases [16:02] - Kernel reviews and releases, lots! [16:02] - Last week: 16.04.6 [16:02] - This week: 14.04.6 - and it's out now! [16:02] - Lots of package copies and reviews for the OpenJDK-11 bionic transition [16:03] - Some minor changes to the purge-count cdimage MP, thanks Steve for merging! [16:03] - Working around checksum-directory limitations in the image archival scripting [16:03] - Tomorrow: out of office o/ [16:03] (done) [16:03] o/. [16:04] rbalint: does that mean you are ready? [16:04] * partner work [16:04] * uploaded wireshark 2.6.7-1 through Debian [16:05] * packaged wslu for Disco [16:05] * gardened wsl bugs in LP [16:05] * fixed regresion in Disco's acpid [16:05] (done) [16:05] reported bug regarding postgresql charm (LP: #1818145) [16:05] tested new postgresql charm in ET mojo spec (success!) [16:05] tested IS changes to ET mojo spec (fail :-( ) [16:05] submitted MP which fixes that (ET mojo spec) [16:05] Launchpad bug 1818145 in PostgreSQL Charm "check_lastest_ready_wal.py fails" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818145 [16:05] research into how nbs report and checkrdepends works [16:05] uploaded new version of distro-info that only shows LTSes for supported-esm [16:05] started SRU of distro-info and distro-info-data [16:05] SRU verification of apport SRUs for 18.04 [16:05] research into gdb issues in disco [16:05] reported gdb bug re: debug-file-directory (LP: #1818918) [16:05] special SRU review of curtin [16:05] discussed machine readable rls reports with will cooke [16:05] Launchpad bug 1818918 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb doesn't search in debug-file-directory for .gnu_debugaltlink" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818918 [16:06] done but no check mark b/c something sucks [16:06] xnox: [16:06] * short week, was out tue-mon since malta [16:06] * openssl 1.1.1b uploaded & migrated [16:06] * zkey fixes for automation (needed for installers) [16:06] * validating / sheparding openssl/s390x SRUs [16:06] * prototyping rebootspeed [16:06] * send kernel autopkgtest fixes for review to the kernel team [16:06] DONE [16:06] finished grub2 merge -- uploaded after fixing my bad pointer math [16:06] investigating grub theming / menu changes [16:06] preparing SRU for grub2 conffile fixes [16:06] code review open PRs for netplan [16:06] sharphed [16:06] netplan.io 0.96 tagging + prepare upload for disco [16:06] sponsored carla package for e.eickmeyer [16:06] clarifying upstream systemd "ActivationMode=" PR + rebase [16:06] (done) [16:08] oh, it's my time! [16:08] * APT [16:08] - Fixed a few bugs in never pinning in apt/trusty git branch [16:08] - Uploaded SRUs for all releases [16:08] - SRU verifications [16:08] - Another small fix and translation updates for 1.8.0 (release ETA tomorrow) [16:08] - auth.conf.d directory is missing (LP: #1818996) [16:08] Launchpad bug 1818996 in apt (Ubuntu Disco) "auth.conf.d directory missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818996 [16:08] - seemed like auth.conf.d support in trusty and xenial did not work for https, only http; turned out I forgot to upgrade apt-transport-https to proposed ... [16:08] * PackageKit: [16:08] - Merge new version from unstable [16:08] - Forwarded frontend-locking patch to upstream [16:08] - SRU crash fix to bionic and cosmic (LP: #1818201) [16:08] Launchpad bug 1818201 in packagekit (Ubuntu Cosmic) "packagekitd crashed with SIGSEGV in __memmove_{sse2,avx}_unaligned_erms() from std::char_traits::copy() from ... from show_errors (errorCode=PK_ERROR_ENUM_CANNOT_FETCH_SOURCES)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818201 [16:08] * autopkgtest-cloud: Change request.cgi to sort printed fields by name, so output is in stable order [16:08] * python-mechanicalsoup: Fixed tests, forwarded to Debian [16:08] * apport: [16:08] - Introduce support for non-positional arguments (LP: #1732962) [16:08] Launchpad bug 1732962 in apport (Ubuntu Cosmic) "apport uses sys.argv instead of named arguments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1732962 [16:08] - Fixup for style issue in yesterday's upload that broke the build [16:08] * livecd-rootfs/bionic: new minimize-manual merge proposal https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/363932 [16:08] * update-notifier / apt esm hook thinking, fixes [16:08] (ubottu is a bit slow..) [16:09] (done) [16:09] * assist with openjdk-11 SRUs [16:09] * full SRU day last Friday, made some progress on the queues [16:09] * discussions around SecureBoot signing of FIPS kernels [16:09] * discussions around trusty ESM transition [16:09] * TB business [16:09] (done) [16:09] * openjdk-11 bionic security transition [16:09] - reviewed and uploaded packages [16:09] - bump & rebuild arch specific packages [16:09] - updated list of packages that also need Cosmic SRU [16:09] - 153 packages [16:09] - 9 are arch specific (no binary copies) [16:09] Other: [16:09] - travelling back home on Saturday early morning [16:09] - wondered if the bot can handle the openjdk transition bug, decided not to try [16:10] - (done) [16:10] * Reading up on ARM TrustZone (specifically in relation to pi3) [16:10] * Testing wimpress' bluetooth fixes on classic & core (not finished core yet) [16:10] * Verified u-boot-tools SRU [16:10] * Added Pi-specific permissions to linux-firmware-raspi2 [16:10] * Added hacks from Malta to livecd-rootfs to reduce boot time, and ensure getty starts after cloud-init's done [16:10] * Moving Pi-specific hacks from livecd-rootfs to linux-firmware-raspi2 (need to test upgrade path) [16:10] * gpiozero 1.5 tested; needs colorzero (also tested) importing (upstream? SRU?) [16:10] * Did I mention the reading up on ARM TrustZone? Well, more of that... [16:10] (done) [16:11] pause for an argument about fortnite [16:12] I was disappointed we didn't do the dance off gaughen [16:12] gaughen, is it snapped? [16:13] any questions over status? [16:13] can we patent our pattern of discussion? [16:14] since we're essentially talking about copyright and trademark, etc. [16:14] waveform: are the livecd-rootfs changes hacks, or real fixes? :) [16:14] vorlon, some are "fixes" or even just downright configuration, but they're definitely "hacks" in the way they're implemented! [16:15] waveform: don't answer that, it is a trick [16:15] heh [16:15] [TOPIC] Bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs [16:15] [LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [16:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1817097 [16:15] Launchpad bug 1817097 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "pvmove causes file system corruption without notice upon move from 512 -> 4096 logical block size devices" [Critical,New] [16:15] cyphermox: It doesn't look like bug 1794292 was fixed in cosmic, it should be SRu'ed right? [16:15] bug 1794292 in plymouth (Ubuntu Cosmic) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in /sbin/plymouthd:11 in ply_renderer_set_handler_for_input_source -> ply_keyboard_stop_watching_for_renderer_input -> ply_keyboard_stop_watching_for_input -> ply_device_manager_deactivate_keyboards -> on_deactivate" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794292 [16:16] xnox: so isn't that a kernel bug? [16:16] bdmurray: yes [16:16] cyphermox: there are still 12k crashes for Cosmic [16:16] yep [16:16] cyphermox: is that something you'll take then? [16:16] yep. [16:16] now we have nice shiny upstream-blessed patches too [16:16] cyphermox: feel free to ping me if you upload something [16:19] bug 1818890 was reported the other day [16:19] bug 1818890 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[disco] After installation, all the default languages are installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818890 [16:19] That seems worth fixing [16:19] wat, again? [16:20] cyphermox: you have context on that one? [16:20] well, I'm pretty sure we've seen that happen before [16:20] it's common class of problems, where packages aren't being removed correctly after install [16:21] I'll target it and card it [16:21] thanks [16:22] bug 1817862 should probably be carded too based of seb's comment [16:22] bug 1817862 in update-manager (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/bin/update-manager:RuntimeError(org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.RuntimeError):_on_clicked:_deferable:_convert_dbus_exception..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817862 [16:22] argh [16:22] fwiw when I noticed the desktop image got bigger recently, analysis of the packages showed language packs turning up in the manifest which hadn't been there in the image earlier this year [16:23] which may mask the actual problem, or may be related [16:23] bdmurray: agreed, though the traceback looks generic and useless [16:23] (and the bug title makes the reports ugly :) [16:24] should the error tracker just limit the title to 42 characters or so? [16:24] wfm [16:24] (low priority though) [16:24] vorlon: langpacks in manifest may actually be why it's a problem [16:24] cyphermox: ack [16:25] something with shipped vs. live, we'll see [16:25] seb also tagged bug 1817619 but I haven't looked into it yet [16:25] bug 1817619 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Update causes 30 sec boot delay on EFI system, with NVMe and LVM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817619 [16:25] uh [16:25] how is that not a duplicate of the bugs I closed invalid? [16:26] answer: it is but has not been marked such [16:26] indeed [16:26] I'll take care of it [16:27] bdmurray: next? [16:27] bdmurray: vorlon: I've already done the analyzes of bug #181889, you can give it to me [16:27] bug 181889 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (Ubuntu) "special buttons on Fujitsu tablets doesn't work anymore" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181889 [16:28] (not related to the image size increase though, IMHO) [16:28] vorlon: that's it from me [16:28] [TOPIC] Proposed-migration === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Proposed-migration [16:28] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:28] didrocks: is that the right number? [16:29] glibc is out of the way now [16:29] bdmurray: sorry, missing one digit: bug #1818890 [16:29] bug 1818890 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[disco] After installation, all the default languages are installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818890 [16:29] * didrocks vanishes and let you continue your meeting [16:29] ah and it looks like openssl + r-cran-openssl got sorted too [16:29] so it's a short list [16:29] i'm triaging curl->ruby-rack [16:30] cyphermox: ^^ [16:30] pillow still waiting for an MIR [16:30] python-scipy regressed in the release pocket as well, afaics [16:30] rbalint: ok. I've prodded the Server Team about the fact that we maybe want to remove the whole rails stack instead of trying to play whack-a-mole with these packages we can't maintain and we believe no one uses [16:30] but I haven't seen any action from them yet wrt socializing this plan [16:30] vorlon, i'm +1 on that for disco [16:31] rbalint: unfortunately it doesn't unblock curl any quicker because ruby-rack is quite deep in the stack so it would take a while to unwind, unless you think this particular regression is ignorable [16:31] vorlon: so who will write the pillow MIR? [16:32] cyphermox: is it not written yet? I assumed doko had a handle on this [16:32] typically it's nice to not write your own, since it makes it a little weird to also review it ;) [16:32] well, if doko wants to write it, I'll review [16:32] or the other way around [16:32] vorlon, i'll be back with and answer for curl [16:32] cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libimagequant/+bug/1812858 ? [16:32] I couldn't find a bug for it [16:32] Launchpad bug 1812858 in libimagequant (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libimagequant (dependency of pillow)" [Undecided,New] [16:32] ah [16:32] well, libimagequant is fine, waiting for security review. top of the queue iirc [16:33] lintian is an issue with the new autopkgtests having become consistently slower and now hitting timeouts [16:33] this was a post-freeze sync by a community member, who I have asked to own this; I don't feel any responsibility for getting lintian 2.9.1 in until this is resolved [16:34] doko: if python-scipy has regressed also in release, do you want to follow up with me on #ubuntu-release after this to get it badtested? [16:35] xnox: fuse-zip/s390x + fuse, does that need attention? [16:35] vorlon: but later tonight. afk atter the meeting [16:35] ok [16:37] xnox: fuse-zip/s390x? [16:37] possibly [16:37] what's wrong? [16:37] do you want to take it? [16:37] failing autopkgtest [16:37] xnox: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/f/fuse-zip/disco/s390x [16:39] doko: do you know anything about the epsilon regression w/ new python-defaults? [16:40] vorlon: that's the new kernel, changed diskstats [16:40] I'm looking at that one [16:40] ok [16:40] I think that's everything that needs attention currently [16:40] [TOPIC] AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [16:40] anything else? [16:42] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [16:42] Meeting ended Thu Mar 7 16:42:59 2019 UTC. [16:42] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-03-07-16.01.moin.txt [16:43] thanks, all! [20:01] o/ [20:01] o/ [20:02] o/ [20:02] hey folks [20:04] aw genii sleeping so no coffee [20:04] okay the UMB are here, so we can start [20:04] just to check frederik-f are you here? [20:05] frederik-f ping === Rinchen is now known as joey [20:08] hello frederik-f [20:08] Hi! [20:08] hi [20:09] Hey there [20:09] okay, tsimonq2 are you here? === frederik-f1 is now known as frederik-f [20:09] Yup [20:10] cool, let's start then \o/ [20:10] #startmeeting 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting [20:10] yip [20:10] Meeting started Thu Mar 7 20:10:11 2019 UTC. The chair is nzoueidi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [20:10] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: [20:10] Hey people, welcome to the Membership Board Meeting [20:10] The wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. [20:11] We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting and while we have only frederik-f [20:11] Then it is good and a quick meeting :D [20:11] :) cool [20:11] frederik-f, you need to introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) [20:12] and provide for us your wiki page link and the LP account [20:12] #topic frederik-f === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: frederik-f [20:12] Okay! Hello, I am Frederik, living in Germany, working as java dev in my daily work, and contributed to the Yaru theme a lot [20:12] This is my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrederikFeichtmeier [20:13] frederik-f, how long have you been contributing? [20:13] My launchpad page is very empty and not very exiting because I contributed mainly on github, because that is where all the yaru stuff happens :( [20:13] I contribute since beginning of 2017 to yaru [20:14] #voters Wild_Man Kilos tsimonq2 nzoueidi [20:14] Current voters: Kilos Wild_Man nzoueidi tsimonq2 [20:14] if anyone have any question for frederik-f please go ahead [20:14] I looked at github and that is when I thought you started contributing just wanted to make sure [20:14] and if there is anyone here that is supporting the application of frederik-f to the Ubuntu Membership, please show up :D [20:15] This is my launchpad page, but is very empty: https://launchpad.net/~frederik-feichtmeier [20:15] All my PRs are on github :( [20:16] https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/graphs/contributors [20:16] My name is "Feichtmeier" on github [20:16] I have some questions, why aren't you involved into the Germany LoCo team? [20:17] I actually do not know what it is :( [20:17] I started to contribute to the Ubuntu theme, because I thought they needed help back then when it started. [20:17] I can surely help, I will google what it is [20:18] sure, np [20:18] here is the link for the LoCo team in Germany: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-de-locoteam/ [20:18] I like your github profile. Keep up the good work [20:19] impressive frederik-f [20:19] impressive indeed [20:19] I hope you like the yaru theme :) [20:20] I will try to attend to LoCo, just googled it! [20:21] any other question from the board? [20:21] join them [20:21] nope i am happy [20:21] No [20:21] what about you tsimonq2? [20:22] No questions here. [20:22] alrighty [20:22] #votesrequired 4 [20:22] votes now need 4 to be passed [20:22] #vote for frederik-f Membership! [20:22] Please vote on: for frederik-f Membership! [20:22] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [20:22] +1 keep up the good work [20:22] +1 keep up the good work received from Kilos [20:22] +1 [20:22] +1 from me, keep it up frederik-f :) [20:22] +1 received from Wild_Man [20:22] +1 from me, keep it up frederik-f :) received from nzoueidi [20:23] dang, I'm late [20:23] lol [20:24] * nzoueidi pinging tsimonq2 to vote :P [20:25] +1 if I were to be included in the voters list, but I arrived late, so I don't count :-p [20:25] tsimonq2 we await your vote [20:25] he is afk I think [20:25] Oh [20:25] Sorry [20:25] +1 [20:25] +1 received from tsimonq2 [20:25] xD [20:25] it is okay [20:25] #endvote [20:25] Voting ended on: for frederik-f Membership! [20:25] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:25] Motion carried [20:26] congratulations frederik-f and welcome aboard :) [20:26] Congrats frederik-f and if you have any questions about the German LoCo Team than you can ask me everything. :) [20:26] Congrats! [20:26] Woah thank you! [20:26] frederik-f welcome aboard [20:26] awesome! [20:26] Time for a beer! :D Thank you very much [20:26] Congrats frederik-f [20:26] * nzoueidi going to add frederik-f to ~ubuntumembers [20:27] Thank you guys for assisting this meeting and have a good night [20:27] toddy: thank you, I will! Here? Or anywhere else? Sorry I am a big IRC noob [20:27] I had hard times to register my nickname [20:27] lol [20:28] #Endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [20:28] Meeting ended Thu Mar 7 20:28:16 2019 UTC. [20:28] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-03-07-20.10.moin.txt [20:29] frederik-f: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers :) [20:30] Cheers! Thank you! [20:31] cheers [20:33] frederik-f, you have been added [20:33] Thank you! [20:33] Your welcome! [20:40] I will leave Thunderbird IRC now! Thank you very much for letting me in [20:40] lol you welcome [20:40] dont forget irc now [20:40] you use kde? [20:40] I wont! No I use Ubuntu "vanilla" - need to test the yaru stuff :) [20:41] oh no i am thinking of konversation [20:41] keep it up [20:42] `snap install irccloud` :-) [20:42] ah! Well I tried polari but now that I "returned" full mozilla again, after I threw google of my PC, I thought I try thunderbird IRC, but yeah, maybe I should try something else :D [20:43] lol i use thunderbird for mail only [20:43] you can try exchat [20:43] hexchat [20:43] broken H [20:43] Ex-chat would also be a nice brand :D [20:43] that's a snap too :-) [20:43] lol [20:44] Chat with all your "Ex's" O.o [20:44] nono you end up sleeping with the dogs [20:44] haha [20:44] okay, now really goodbye, thank you guys