[16:00]  * vorlon waves
[16:00] <juliank> o/
[16:00] <cyphermox> o/
[16:01] <sil2100> o/
[16:01] <vorlon> #startmeeting
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar  7 16:01:34 2019 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:01] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:01] <vorlon> $ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
[16:01] <vorlon> doko sil2100 infinity rbalint bdmurray xnox mwhudson cyphermox juliank vorlon tdaitx waveform
[16:02] <doko> first time 1st
[16:02] <doko> and didn't prepare an update ... so openjdk-11 transition & toolchain work
[16:02] <doko> (done)
[16:02] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[16:02] <sil2100> - Kernel reviews and releases, lots!
[16:02] <sil2100> - Last week: 16.04.6
[16:02] <sil2100> - This week: 14.04.6 - and it's out now!
[16:02] <sil2100> - Lots of package copies and reviews for the OpenJDK-11 bionic transition
[16:03] <sil2100> - Some minor changes to the purge-count cdimage MP, thanks Steve for merging!
[16:03] <sil2100> - Working around checksum-directory limitations in the image archival scripting
[16:03] <sil2100> - Tomorrow: out of office o/
[16:03] <sil2100> (done)
[16:03] <rbalint> o/.
[16:04] <bdmurray> rbalint: does that mean you are ready?
[16:04] <rbalint> * partner work
[16:04] <rbalint> * uploaded wireshark 2.6.7-1 through Debian
[16:05] <rbalint> * packaged wslu for Disco
[16:05] <rbalint> * gardened wsl bugs in LP
[16:05] <rbalint> * fixed regresion in Disco's acpid
[16:05] <rbalint> (done)
[16:05] <bdmurray> reported bug regarding postgresql charm (LP: #1818145)
[16:05] <bdmurray> tested new postgresql charm in ET mojo spec (success!)
[16:05] <bdmurray> tested IS changes to ET mojo spec (fail :-( )
[16:05] <bdmurray> submitted MP which fixes that (ET mojo spec)
[16:05] <bdmurray> research into how nbs report and checkrdepends works
[16:05] <bdmurray> uploaded new version of distro-info that only shows LTSes for supported-esm
[16:05] <bdmurray> started SRU of distro-info and distro-info-data
[16:05] <bdmurray> SRU verification of apport SRUs for 18.04
[16:05] <bdmurray> research into gdb issues in disco
[16:05] <bdmurray> reported gdb bug re: debug-file-directory (LP: #1818918)
[16:05] <bdmurray> special SRU review of curtin
[16:05] <bdmurray> discussed machine readable rls reports with will cooke
[16:06] <bdmurray> done but no check mark b/c something sucks
[16:06] <bdmurray> xnox:
[16:06] <xnox> * short week, was out tue-mon since malta
[16:06] <xnox> * openssl 1.1.1b uploaded & migrated
[16:06] <xnox> * zkey fixes for automation (needed for installers)
[16:06] <xnox> * validating / sheparding openssl/s390x SRUs
[16:06] <xnox> * prototyping rebootspeed
[16:06] <xnox> * send kernel autopkgtest fixes for review to the kernel team
[16:06] <xnox> DONE
[16:06] <cyphermox> finished grub2 merge -- uploaded after fixing my bad pointer math
[16:06] <cyphermox> investigating grub theming / menu changes
[16:06] <cyphermox> preparing SRU for grub2 conffile fixes
[16:06] <cyphermox> code review open PRs for netplan
[16:06] <vorlon> sharphed
[16:06] <cyphermox> netplan.io 0.96 tagging + prepare upload for disco
[16:06] <cyphermox> sponsored carla package for e.eickmeyer
[16:06] <cyphermox> clarifying upstream systemd "ActivationMode=" PR + rebase
[16:06] <cyphermox> (done)
[16:08] <juliank> oh, it's my time!
[16:08] <juliank> * APT
[16:08] <juliank>  - Fixed a few bugs in never pinning in apt/trusty git branch
[16:08] <juliank>  - Uploaded SRUs for all releases
[16:08] <juliank>  - SRU verifications
[16:08] <juliank>  - Another small fix and translation updates for 1.8.0 (release ETA tomorrow)
[16:08] <juliank>  - auth.conf.d directory is missing (LP: #1818996)
[16:08] <juliank>  - seemed like auth.conf.d support in trusty and xenial did not work for https, only http; turned out I forgot to upgrade apt-transport-https to proposed ...
[16:08] <juliank> * PackageKit:
[16:08] <juliank>  - Merge new version from unstable
[16:08] <juliank>  - Forwarded frontend-locking patch to upstream
[16:08] <juliank>  - SRU crash fix to bionic and cosmic (LP: #1818201)
[16:08] <juliank> * autopkgtest-cloud: Change request.cgi to sort printed fields by name, so output is in stable order
[16:08] <juliank> * python-mechanicalsoup: Fixed tests, forwarded to Debian
[16:08] <juliank> * apport:
[16:08] <juliank>   - Introduce support for non-positional arguments (LP: #1732962)
[16:08] <juliank>   - Fixup for style issue in yesterday's upload that broke the build
[16:08] <juliank> * livecd-rootfs/bionic: new minimize-manual merge proposal https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/363932
[16:08] <juliank> * update-notifier / apt esm hook thinking, fixes
[16:08] <juliank> (ubottu is a bit slow..)
[16:09] <juliank> (done)
[16:09] <vorlon>  * assist with openjdk-11 SRUs
[16:09] <vorlon>  * full SRU day last Friday, made some progress on the queues
[16:09] <vorlon>  * discussions around SecureBoot signing of FIPS kernels
[16:09] <vorlon>  * discussions around trusty ESM transition
[16:09] <vorlon>  * TB business
[16:09] <vorlon> (done)
[16:09] <tdaitx> * openjdk-11 bionic security transition
[16:09] <tdaitx>   - reviewed and uploaded packages
[16:09] <tdaitx>   - bump & rebuild arch specific packages
[16:09] <tdaitx>   - updated list of packages that also need Cosmic SRU
[16:09] <tdaitx>     - 153 packages
[16:09] <tdaitx>     - 9 are arch specific (no binary copies)
[16:09] <tdaitx> Other:
[16:09] <tdaitx> - travelling back home on Saturday early morning
[16:09] <tdaitx> - wondered if the bot can handle the openjdk transition bug, decided not to try
[16:10] <tdaitx> - (done)
[16:10] <waveform> * Reading up on ARM TrustZone (specifically in relation to pi3)
[16:10] <waveform> * Testing wimpress' bluetooth fixes on classic & core (not finished core yet)
[16:10] <waveform> * Verified u-boot-tools SRU
[16:10] <waveform> * Added Pi-specific permissions to linux-firmware-raspi2
[16:10] <waveform> * Added hacks from Malta to livecd-rootfs to reduce boot time, and ensure getty starts after cloud-init's done
[16:10] <waveform> * Moving Pi-specific hacks from livecd-rootfs to linux-firmware-raspi2 (need to test upgrade path)
[16:10] <waveform> * gpiozero 1.5 tested; needs colorzero (also tested) importing (upstream? SRU?)
[16:10] <waveform> * Did I mention the reading up on ARM TrustZone? Well, more of that...
[16:10] <waveform> (done)
[16:11] <gaughen> pause for an argument about fortnite
[16:12] <bdmurray> I was disappointed we didn't do the dance off gaughen
[16:12] <rbalint> gaughen, is it snapped?
[16:13] <vorlon> any questions over status?
[16:13] <cyphermox> can we patent our pattern of discussion?
[16:14] <cyphermox> since we're essentially talking about copyright and trademark, etc.
[16:14] <vorlon> waveform: are the livecd-rootfs changes hacks, or real fixes? :)
[16:14] <waveform> vorlon, some are "fixes" or even just downright configuration, but they're definitely "hacks" in the way they're implemented!
[16:15] <tdaitx> waveform: don't answer that, it is a trick
[16:15] <vorlon> heh
[16:15] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Bugs
[16:15] <vorlon> [LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:15] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1817097
[16:15] <bdmurray> cyphermox: It doesn't look like bug 1794292 was fixed in cosmic, it should be SRu'ed right?
[16:16] <vorlon> xnox: so isn't that a kernel bug?
[16:16] <cyphermox> bdmurray: yes
[16:16] <bdmurray> cyphermox: there are still 12k crashes for Cosmic
[16:16] <cyphermox> yep
[16:16] <bdmurray> cyphermox: is that something you'll take then?
[16:16] <cyphermox> yep.
[16:16] <cyphermox> now we have nice shiny upstream-blessed patches too
[16:16] <bdmurray> cyphermox: feel free to ping me if you upload something
[16:19] <bdmurray> bug 1818890 was reported the other day
[16:19] <bdmurray> That seems worth fixing
[16:19] <cyphermox> wat, again?
[16:20] <sil2100> cyphermox: you have context on that one?
[16:20] <cyphermox> well, I'm pretty sure we've seen that happen before
[16:20] <cyphermox> it's common class of problems, where packages aren't being removed correctly after install
[16:21] <bdmurray> I'll target it and card it
[16:21] <vorlon> thanks
[16:22] <bdmurray> bug 1817862 should probably be carded too based of seb's comment
[16:22] <xnox> argh
[16:22] <vorlon> fwiw when I noticed the desktop image got bigger recently, analysis of the packages showed language packs turning up in the manifest which hadn't been there in the image earlier this year
[16:23] <vorlon> which may mask the actual problem, or may be related
[16:23] <vorlon> bdmurray: agreed, though the traceback looks generic and useless
[16:23] <vorlon> (and the bug title makes the reports ugly :)
[16:24] <bdmurray> should the error tracker just limit the title to 42 characters or so?
[16:24] <vorlon> wfm
[16:24] <vorlon> (low priority though)
[16:24] <cyphermox> vorlon: langpacks in manifest may actually be why it's a problem
[16:24] <vorlon> cyphermox: ack
[16:25] <cyphermox> something with shipped vs. live, we'll see
[16:25] <bdmurray> seb also tagged bug 1817619 but I haven't looked into it yet
[16:25] <vorlon> uh
[16:25] <vorlon> how is that not a duplicate of the bugs I closed invalid?
[16:26] <vorlon> answer: it is but has not been marked such
[16:26] <cyphermox> indeed
[16:26] <vorlon> I'll take care of it
[16:27] <vorlon> bdmurray: next?
[16:27] <didrocks> bdmurray: vorlon: I've already done the analyzes of bug #181889, you can give it to me
[16:28] <didrocks> (not related to the image size increase though, IMHO)
[16:28] <bdmurray> vorlon: that's it from me
[16:28] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Proposed-migration
[16:28] <vorlon> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:28] <bdmurray> didrocks: is that the right number?
[16:29] <vorlon> glibc is out of the way now
[16:29] <didrocks> bdmurray: sorry, missing one digit: bug #1818890
[16:29]  * didrocks vanishes and let you continue your meeting
[16:29] <vorlon> ah and it looks like openssl + r-cran-openssl got sorted too
[16:29] <vorlon> so it's a short list
[16:29] <rbalint> i'm triaging curl->ruby-rack
[16:30] <bdmurray> cyphermox: ^^
[16:30] <vorlon> pillow still waiting for an MIR
[16:30] <doko> python-scipy regressed in the release pocket as well, afaics
[16:30] <vorlon> rbalint: ok.  I've prodded the Server Team about the fact that we maybe want to remove the whole rails stack instead of trying to play whack-a-mole with these packages we can't maintain and we believe no one uses
[16:30] <vorlon> but I haven't seen any action from them yet wrt socializing this plan
[16:30] <rbalint> vorlon, i'm +1 on that for disco
[16:31] <vorlon> rbalint: unfortunately it doesn't unblock curl any quicker because ruby-rack is quite deep in the stack so it would take a while to unwind, unless you think this particular regression is ignorable
[16:31] <cyphermox> vorlon: so who will write the pillow MIR?
[16:32] <vorlon> cyphermox: is it not written yet?  I assumed doko had a handle on this
[16:32] <cyphermox> typically it's nice to not write your own, since it makes it a little weird to also review it ;)
[16:32] <cyphermox> well, if doko wants to write it, I'll review
[16:32] <cyphermox> or the other way around
[16:32] <rbalint> vorlon, i'll be back with and answer for curl
[16:32] <vorlon> cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libimagequant/+bug/1812858 ?
[16:32] <cyphermox> I couldn't find a bug for it
[16:32] <cyphermox> ah
[16:32] <cyphermox> well, libimagequant is fine, waiting for security review. top of the queue iirc
[16:33] <vorlon> lintian is an issue with the new autopkgtests having become consistently slower and now hitting timeouts
[16:33] <vorlon> this was a post-freeze sync by a community member, who I have asked to own this; I don't feel any responsibility for getting lintian 2.9.1 in until this is resolved
[16:34] <vorlon> doko: if python-scipy has regressed also in release, do you want to follow up with me on #ubuntu-release after this to get it badtested?
[16:35] <vorlon> xnox: fuse-zip/s390x + fuse, does that need attention?
[16:35] <doko> vorlon: but later tonight. afk atter the meeting
[16:35] <vorlon> ok
[16:37] <vorlon> xnox: fuse-zip/s390x?
[16:37] <xnox> possibly
[16:37] <xnox> what's wrong?
[16:37] <vorlon> do you want to take it?
[16:37] <vorlon> failing autopkgtest
[16:37] <vorlon> xnox: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/f/fuse-zip/disco/s390x
[16:39] <vorlon> doko: do you know anything about the epsilon regression w/ new python-defaults?
[16:40] <doko> vorlon: that's the new kernel, changed diskstats
[16:40] <doko> I'm looking at that one
[16:40] <vorlon> ok
[16:40] <vorlon> I think that's everything that needs attention currently
[16:40] <vorlon> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:40] <vorlon> anything else?
[16:42] <vorlon> #endmeeting
[16:42] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar  7 16:42:59 2019 UTC.
[16:42] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-03-07-16.01.moin.txt
[16:43] <vorlon> thanks, all!
[20:01] <tsimonq2> o/
[20:01] <Kilos> o/
[20:02] <Wild_Man> o/
[20:02] <nzoueidi> hey folks
[20:04] <Kilos> aw genii  sleeping so no coffee
[20:04] <nzoueidi> okay the UMB are here, so we can start
[20:04] <nzoueidi> just to check frederik-f are you here?
[20:05] <Kilos> frederik-f  ping
[20:08] <Wild_Man> hello frederik-f
[20:08] <frederik-f1> Hi!
[20:08] <Kilos> hi
[20:09] <nzoueidi> Hey there
[20:09] <nzoueidi> okay, tsimonq2 are you here?
[20:09] <tsimonq2> Yup
[20:10] <nzoueidi> cool, let's start then \o/
[20:10] <nzoueidi> #startmeeting 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[20:10] <Kilos> yip
[20:10] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar  7 20:10:11 2019 UTC.  The chair is nzoueidi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:10] <nzoueidi> Hey people, welcome to the Membership Board Meeting
[20:10] <nzoueidi> The wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards.
[20:11] <nzoueidi> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting and while we have only frederik-f
[20:11] <nzoueidi> Then it is good and a quick meeting :D
[20:11] <frederik-f> :) cool
[20:11] <nzoueidi> frederik-f, you need to introduce themselves (1-5 sentences)
[20:12] <nzoueidi> and provide for us your wiki page link and the LP account
[20:12] <nzoueidi> #topic frederik-f
[20:12] <frederik-f> Okay! Hello, I am Frederik, living in Germany, working as java dev in my daily work, and contributed to the Yaru theme a lot
[20:12] <frederik-f> This is my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrederikFeichtmeier
[20:13] <Wild_Man> frederik-f, how long have you been contributing?
[20:13] <frederik-f> My launchpad page is very empty and not very exiting because I contributed mainly on github, because that is where all the yaru stuff happens :(
[20:13] <frederik-f> I contribute since beginning of 2017 to yaru
[20:14] <nzoueidi> #voters Wild_Man Kilos tsimonq2 nzoueidi
[20:14] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos Wild_Man nzoueidi tsimonq2
[20:14] <nzoueidi> if anyone have any question for frederik-f please go ahead
[20:14] <Wild_Man> I looked at github and that is when I thought you started contributing just wanted to make sure
[20:14] <nzoueidi> and if there is anyone here that is supporting the application of frederik-f  to the Ubuntu Membership, please show up :D
[20:15] <frederik-f> This is my launchpad page, but is very empty: https://launchpad.net/~frederik-feichtmeier
[20:15] <frederik-f> All my PRs are on github :(
[20:16] <frederik-f> https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/graphs/contributors
[20:16] <frederik-f> My name is "Feichtmeier" on github
[20:16] <nzoueidi> I have some questions, why aren't you involved into the Germany LoCo team?
[20:17] <frederik-f> I actually do not know what it is :(
[20:17] <frederik-f> I started to contribute to the Ubuntu theme, because I thought they needed help back then when it started.
[20:17] <frederik-f> I can surely help, I will google what it is
[20:18] <nzoueidi> sure, np
[20:18] <nzoueidi> here is the link for the LoCo team in Germany: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-de-locoteam/
[20:18] <nzoueidi> I like your github profile. Keep up the good work
[20:19] <Kilos> impressive frederik-f
[20:19] <Wild_Man> impressive indeed
[20:19] <frederik-f> I hope you like the yaru theme :)
[20:20] <frederik-f> I will try to attend to LoCo, just googled it!
[20:21] <nzoueidi> any other question from the board?
[20:21] <Kilos> join them
[20:21] <Kilos> nope i am happy
[20:21] <Wild_Man> No
[20:21] <nzoueidi> what about you tsimonq2?
[20:22] <tsimonq2> No questions here.
[20:22] <nzoueidi> alrighty
[20:22] <nzoueidi> #votesrequired 4
[20:22] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[20:22] <nzoueidi> #vote for frederik-f  Membership!
[20:22] <meetingology> Please vote on: for frederik-f  Membership!
[20:22] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:22] <Kilos> +1 keep up the good work
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 keep up the good work received from Kilos
[20:22] <Wild_Man> +1
[20:22] <nzoueidi> +1 from me, keep it up frederik-f :)
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 received from Wild_Man
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 from me, keep it up frederik-f :) received from nzoueidi
[20:23] <diddledan> dang, I'm late
[20:23] <Kilos> lol
[20:24]  * nzoueidi pinging tsimonq2 to vote :P
[20:25] <diddledan> +1 if I were to be included in the voters list, but I arrived late, so I don't count :-p
[20:25] <Kilos> tsimonq2  we await your vote
[20:25] <nzoueidi> he is afk I think
[20:25] <tsimonq2> Oh
[20:25] <tsimonq2> Sorry
[20:25] <tsimonq2> +1
[20:25] <meetingology> +1 received from tsimonq2
[20:25] <nzoueidi> xD
[20:25] <nzoueidi> it is okay
[20:25] <nzoueidi> #endvote
[20:25] <meetingology> Voting ended on: for frederik-f  Membership!
[20:25] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:25] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:26] <nzoueidi> congratulations frederik-f and welcome aboard :)
[20:26] <toddy> Congrats frederik-f and if you have any questions about the German LoCo Team than you can ask me everything. :)
[20:26] <tsimonq2> Congrats!
[20:26] <frederik-f> Woah thank you!
[20:26] <Kilos> frederik-f  welcome aboard
[20:26] <diddledan> awesome!
[20:26] <frederik-f> Time for a beer! :D Thank you very much
[20:26] <Wild_Man> Congrats frederik-f
[20:26]  * nzoueidi going to add frederik-f to ~ubuntumembers
[20:27] <nzoueidi> Thank you guys for assisting this meeting and have a good night
[20:27] <frederik-f> toddy: thank you, I will! Here? Or anywhere else? Sorry I am a big IRC noob
[20:27] <frederik-f> I had hard times to register my nickname
[20:27] <Kilos> lol
[20:28] <nzoueidi> #Endmeeting
[20:28] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar  7 20:28:16 2019 UTC.
[20:28] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-03-07-20.10.moin.txt
[20:29] <sarnold> frederik-f: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers  :)
[20:30] <frederik-f> Cheers! Thank you!
[20:31] <Kilos> cheers
[20:33] <Wild_Man> frederik-f, you have been added
[20:33] <frederik-f> Thank you!
[20:33] <Wild_Man> Your welcome!
[20:40] <frederik-f> I will leave Thunderbird IRC now! Thank you very much for letting me in
[20:40] <Kilos> lol you welcome
[20:40] <Kilos> dont forget irc now
[20:40] <Kilos> you use kde?
[20:40] <frederik-f> I wont! No I use Ubuntu "vanilla" - need to test the yaru stuff :)
[20:41] <Kilos> oh no i am thinking of konversation
[20:41] <Kilos> keep it up
[20:42] <diddledan> `snap install irccloud` :-)
[20:42] <frederik-f> ah! Well I tried polari but now that I "returned" full mozilla again, after I threw google of my PC, I thought I try thunderbird IRC, but yeah, maybe I should try something else :D
[20:43] <Kilos> lol i use thunderbird for mail only
[20:43] <Kilos> you can try exchat
[20:43] <Kilos> hexchat
[20:43] <Kilos> broken H
[20:43] <frederik-f> Ex-chat would also be a nice brand :D
[20:43] <diddledan> that's a snap too :-)
[20:43] <Kilos> lol
[20:44] <frederik-f> Chat with all your "Ex's" O.o
[20:44] <Kilos> nono you end up sleeping with the dogs
[20:44] <frederik-f> haha
[20:44] <frederik-f> okay, now really goodbye, thank you guys