[00:04] <teward> and I can't find one, I'll need to grab an extra from work.  :|
[00:04] <teward> wxl: looks like guiverc hasn't reproduced it, I'll do a live system test and then install the 4.15.x kernel as well after install for tests :p
[00:04] <teward> but I need a USB stick first :P
[00:05] <wxl> it's probably of little urgency, especially when he'e using the same hardware
[00:05] <guiverc> teward, fyi: i'm running live testing now; 18.04.1  (non-HWE kernel) 
[00:05] <wxl> i have to wonder if this isn't some weird x error
[00:06] <teward> ack
[00:06] <teward> guiverc: Xenial then I guess needs testing?
[00:06] <wxl> they said it didn't happen with xenial
[00:06] <wxl> i was saying if we could reproduce it then we should check to make sure we couldn't in xenial
[00:07] <wxl> s/\(the\)y/\1 OP/
[00:09] <guiverc> on first dell optiplex 755 using 18.04.1; I can't reproduce (live or installed system)
[00:10] <kc2bez> I have 18.04.2 on my Atom laptop with the 4.15.45 kernel and I can't reproduce it either. Since guiverc 's hardware is the same that may be the real test.
[00:10] <wxl> kc2bez: if you could leave a comment on the bug, i'd appreciate it
[00:11] <kc2bez> Will do
[00:11] <wxl> the thing is i suspect that there could be some variation among models with the graphics chip.. so one might be problematic where another one might not
[00:12] <guiverc> I'm letting my 2nd dell 755 upgrade it's system, then will run another live-test on it (why I haven't posted my next lp-bug-report comment yet)
[00:13] <kc2bez> I agree, it does seem like a graphics sort of issue vs the terminal emulator.
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[14:01] <pavlushka>     nor crypto modules. If that's on purpose, you may want to uninstall the 
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[16:52] <tsimonq2> Morning, y'all!
[16:52] <tsimonq2> I have the day off of school today, I'm going to get some stuff done.
[16:52] <lubot> <teward001> Glory to Arstotzka!  Um, I mean, hi!  😛
[16:52] <tsimonq2> XD
[16:52] <lubot> <teward001> wxl: couldn't confirm the issue either, with 18.04 .1 or .2 ISOs today at work
[16:53] <lubot> <kc2bez> Day off from work sounds nice.
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[17:52] <tsimonq2> Ouu, I cut down the build time for jobgenerator from 6.2s to 5.0s \o/
[17:57] <lubot> <kc2bez> \o/
[18:06] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/disco_screengrab/ screengrab? @tsimonq2 we left that out in 18.10
[18:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> lximage already has a screenshot utility
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[20:49] <wxl> @teward001 please make a note on the bug
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[22:33] <wxl> can anyone else get sddm crashes with the openbox session? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-session/+bug/1804554
[22:33] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1804554 in lxqt-session (Ubuntu) "18.10: lubuntu sddm crashes with openbox session" [Undecided, Expired]
[22:34] <wxl> it may need the real hardware test, too
[22:37] <guiverc> wxl - just booted my dx6120 (x86, qa test system) to have a look
[22:43] <wxl> thx guiverc 
[22:44] <kc2bez> It has some weirdness. Not sure how to describe it. I'll snap a picture in Telegram.
[22:45] <lubot> <kc2bez> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/BckUi9M.jpg
[22:45] <wxl> it appears that one selects the openbox session, logs in, and then there's a freeze
[22:45] <wxl> interesting
[22:45] <wxl> so it can't log in
[22:45] <lubot> <kc2bez> It sort of half starts the session
[22:45] <guiverc> i'm gettng system.program.problem.detected and appears to freeze
[22:46] <wxl> those windows are default openbox menus
[22:46] <guiverc> retract that; it appears it still shows sddm login screen but openbox appears to respond as if logged in?
[22:46] <kc2bez> Yeah I never fully get it started and can't interact with anything though.
[22:46] <wxl> openbox only works through the right click menu
[22:47] <kc2bez> I should only get one menu at a time though.
[22:47] <wxl> sad i can't reproduce this on a vm
[22:47] <wxl> yeah
[22:47] <wxl> report any results you get on the bug. if you can find logs that hint at what's going on, that would be great.
[22:47] <wxl> openbox, sddm, or x logs
[22:47] <wxl> i'm going to try with different vm hardware
[22:48] <wxl> does this also happen in the live environment or only in an installed version?
[22:48] <kc2bez> I am on an installed 18.10 on my Dell inspiron laptop.
[22:49] <wxl> could you see if it's reproducible with live?
[22:49] <kc2bez> Will do
[22:52] <kc2bez> Oh hey, I was able to interact with one of the menus when I went back. Before I reboot into a live I will dig at some logs.
[22:53] <wxl> it'd be interesting to see if we have the same behavior with dingo
[22:54] <kc2bez> I can try that on my other laptop too.
[23:11] <guiverc> wxl- booted 19.04 daily (a few days old) & i get EXACT same response (excluding no system.problem.detected error message)  - different box (d755) as x86_64 when booted, logged out & switching to openbox
[23:12] <wxl> guiverc: you mean live?
[23:13] <guiverc> sorry yeah LIVE daily
[23:13] <wxl> well fooey
[23:13] <wxl> i guess we need to go digging for logs -_-
[23:14] <guiverc> i didn't find any useful logs on the dx6120 (x86), sddm.log empty, I didn't see anything in Xorg (but I could have missed clues here), nothing in dmesg..
[23:15] <guiverc> (didn't see an openbox log in /var/log/)
[23:15] <wxl> yeah i think it's in ~/.local or something of the sort
[23:16] <lubot> <kc2bez> Here is something interesting https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FqP7tvYfYv/
[23:17] <wxl> huh
[23:17] <lubot> <kc2bez> and to compare https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JST2x3JmYN/
[23:18] <wxl> it almost seems to break immediately
[23:18] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yeah, weird.
[23:19] <guiverc> openbox log contains only " Openbox-Message: Unable to find a valid menu file "/var/lib/openbox/debian-menu.xml" "
[23:19] <wxl> here's cosmic on a vm https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wgp3ymnsG5/
[23:19] <guiverc> (my last was already in kc2bez's paste)
[23:21] <guiverc> (i've gotta go lie down sorry - I'm away)
[23:25] <kc2bez> wxl: I don't see your openbox session or am I missing it?
[23:31] <wxl> kc2bez: basically the first line. the x session starting is the start
[23:35] <kc2bez> That looks like it is from October though.
[23:36] <wxl> line 857 then :)
[23:38] <kc2bez> This is a weird one.
[23:38] <kc2bez> I will see what I get on my other laptop that is on dingo.
[23:39] <wxl> LIBVIRT_DEFAULT_URI=qemu:///system
[23:39] <wxl> i guess you use kvm on this system?
[23:41] <wxl> it might be good to try to add the missing files (/var/lib/openbox/debian-menu.xml, /etc/xdg/xdg-openbox/autostart), perhaps even as empty files
[23:43] <lubot> <kc2bez> @wxl [<wxl> i guess you use kvm on this system?], Sometimes, yes. Not a fresh install by any stretch.
[23:43] <wxl> the other thing that might be the issue is thae fact that some of the .desktop files being processed as "Not found in OnlyShowIn list, aborting." i wonder if this is because it's using openbox instead of lxqt??? i'm not sure how this could affect things given some crucial stuff (polkit stuff, gnome-keyring stuff)
[23:44] <wxl> perhaps attempting to remove the OnlyShowIn from those files might be a good idea
[23:44] <wxl> i'd do these on a live system
[23:44] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yeah, makes sense.
[23:45] <wxl> i just don't understand why those wouldn't be problems on a vm
[23:46] <lubot> <kc2bez> So another thing is my Dell has an Nvidia card in it too. Fun stuff with that sometimes.
[23:46] <wxl> i wish we could get rid of the openbox session
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[23:53] <lubot> <kc2bez> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/nIIVtcP.jpg
[23:53] <lubot> <kc2bez> Dingo machine ^^
[23:54] <lubot> <kc2bez> It does respond better but it never repaints the sddm screen.
[23:55] <lubot> <kc2bez> The right click menu is much more responsive.
[23:55] <wxl> so please make notes about this on the bug re, e.g. it affecting cosmic, dingo; live, installed; and whatever you found in the logs. and if you could keep hammering at those other ideas that would be great
[23:56] <wxl> those pics are good, too
[23:56] <wxl> i have to wonder if those people think it's frozen because they don't understand how openbox works
[23:57] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yeah. Probably.
[23:58] <lubot> <kc2bez> It should have a black screen with no panel though I would think.
[23:58] <wxl> right
[23:58] <wxl> that's what i get in vbox
[23:58] <wxl> wonder if kvm would give you the same experience. probably
[23:59] <lubot> <kc2bez> I can give it a whirl too.