| didrocks | good morning | 07:14 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 07:22 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 07:24 |
| didrocks | hum, 3 issues with new GNOME Shell in 2 minutes, let's reboot to see | 07:26 |
| didrocks | ok, just 2 now :) (open a terminal shortcut work after a restart after upgrading) | 07:28 |
| didrocks | unsure to file them, the top panel one is obviously known, just the release hasn't been coordinated | 07:28 |
| didrocks | I'll still file gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect not working with new G-S | 07:29 |
| didrocks | not targetting -incoming as not the default, but as we wanted to promote it… | 07:29 |
| * duflu isn't sure who didrocks is talking to | 07:45 | |
| duflu | But yeah there are some hiccups in gnome-shell 3.31.9x | 07:45 |
| didrocks | duflu: the top panel is now always transparent with new G-S, no? | 07:46 |
| didrocks | I guessit needs a new Yaru release | 07:46 |
| duflu | didrocks, always opaque, never transparent you mean? | 07:47 |
| duflu | Yeah that was an upstream decision | 07:47 |
| didrocks | hum, it's always transparent here | 07:47 |
| didrocks | with Yaru | 07:47 |
| duflu | Weird | 07:47 |
| duflu | Upstream decided to make it always opaque | 07:47 |
| duflu | Sounds like you've got some old theme settings laying around | 07:47 |
| didrocks | yeah, but I guess the css property that is assigned is the one which was corresponding to the transparent color in Yaru | 07:47 |
| didrocks | or is it always opaque for you, with Yaru? | 07:48 |
| duflu | didrocks, sorry you are right. My Yaru login is always transparent now | 07:48 |
| didrocks | ah :) | 07:48 |
| duflu | I can't keep up with all the changes | 07:48 |
| didrocks | I guess it's just that the "fixed" value was the default property | 07:48 |
| didrocks | but we didn't change Yaru css | 07:48 |
| didrocks | or this is changed in upstream Yaru | 07:49 |
| didrocks | but not released yet | 07:49 |
| didrocks | (but yeah, I know upstream removed the dynamic transparency thingy) | 07:49 |
| duflu | Ironically one of the most popular branches is to add a new transparency method (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/404) | 07:50 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue (Merge request) 404 in gnome-shell "Add transparent panel adapting to background image characteristics" [Opened] | 07:50 |
| didrocks | ahah ;) | 07:50 |
| didrocks | oh you got 404, congrats! | 07:50 |
| didrocks | and 404 for "transparent" is an easter egg in itself :p | 07:50 |
| duflu | #geekjoke | 07:51 |
| * duflu hugs didrocks to clarify that's not a bad thing | 07:52 | |
| * didrocks hugs duflu back ;) | 07:52 | |
| duflu | didrocks, oh so the dock is always opaque for similar reasons? | 07:53 |
| didrocks | yep | 07:56 |
| didrocks | I guess it was a discussion during the day, so you probably missed it, we decided to align | 07:57 |
| didrocks | I thought we decided for some slight transparency though | 07:57 |
| didrocks | unsure what happened to this, but Trevinho would know | 07:57 |
| duflu | Obviously the dock and panel don't match. So I assume someone will fix that | 07:58 |
| duflu | one way or the other | 07:58 |
| duflu | Actually that will solve an old bug where their transparencies were slightly different | 07:59 |
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| tjaalton | duflu: you can reproduce bug 1767312? | 08:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1767312 in mesa (Ubuntu) "[radeon] Totem with gstreamer1.0-vaapi and Xorg: wrong color on H264 videos" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767312 | 08:37 |
| duflu | tjaalton, it was on weird old hardware. I don't know where the hardware is but am confident it's in this house | 08:37 |
| tjaalton | old enough that it uses r600_dri.so and not radeonsi? | 08:38 |
| * duflu shrugs | 08:38 | |
| tjaalton | 10bpc should be disabled in code for gallium drivers | 08:38 |
| duflu | tjaalton, I can make it an evening task to get to over the next week and retest. Which release would you like me to try? | 08:39 |
| tjaalton | bionic or newer | 08:40 |
| tjaalton | actually r300 and up are all using gallium | 08:40 |
| clobrano | good morning all o/ | 08:41 |
| didrocks | hey clobrano | 08:41 |
| clobrano | hey didrocks, how are you? | 08:42 |
| didrocks | clobrano: good! Yourself? | 08:42 |
| clobrano | didrocks: mee too, thanks :) | 08:43 |
| clobrano | duflu, didrocks: I didn't know about that little transparency decision for the shell top panel. There's a PR about ready that will set it totally solid | 08:44 |
| clobrano | https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/1234 | 08:44 |
| gitbot | ubuntu issue (Pull request) 1234 in yaru "sync Yaru gnome-shell against upstream" [Open] | 08:44 |
| didrocks | clobrano: the top panel is totally solid, only the dock should have slight transparency | 08:45 |
| didrocks | IIRC | 08:45 |
| didrocks | but that was Trevinho who would know more | 08:45 |
| duflu | clobrano, thanks :) | 08:45 |
| clobrano | didrocks: I see, as it was originally on 18.04 + ambiance then | 08:46 |
| didrocks | clobrano: exactly! | 08:50 |
| clobrano | out of curiosity, is there anyone using Matrix IRC bridge to chat here in ubuntu-desktop? | 08:56 |
| duflu | didrocks, do you need bug 1819126 to stay private? | 08:56 |
| ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 1819126 could not be found | 08:56 |
| Laney | yo | 09:02 |
| acheronuk | clobrano: I see a few nicks here with the [m] suffix | 09:02 |
| acheronuk | testing it out on KDE channels, matrix is a bit of a pain still | 09:03 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 09:05 |
| clobrano | acheronuk: I couldn't use it much, because the IRC bridge for the ubuntu-desktop channel (or generally for freenode) seems read only. None of my messages passed through, while it works fine with #gnome channels | 09:06 |
| acheronuk | clobrano: just tried in here, and bridge hasn't forwarded the message yet :/ | 09:13 |
| acheronuk | it is not perfect yet | 09:14 |
| acheronuk | or could be channel modes in here | 09:15 |
| didrocks | duflu: just rereviewed, nothing really private, let's open it | 09:16 |
| duflu | Done | 09:17 |
| didrocks | duflu: you know this is the "big icon size" bug which just went worse | 09:18 |
| clobrano | acheronuk: yep :( | 09:18 |
| duflu | didrocks, bug 1818246, bug 1818878 or something else? | 09:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1818246 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "update-notifier's notification is huge due to large icon" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818246 | 09:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1818878 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "System menu user icon is bigger than others in 3.31.92" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818878 | 09:19 |
| didrocks | duflu: bug 1818246 | 09:20 |
| acheronuk | clobrano: works in #kubuntu-devel and #kde chans, so I think that explanation makes sense. e.g. something like mode set in here so only ops see messages from users whos nicks are not registered | 09:20 |
| acheronuk | I recall a lot of ubuntu chans set that a while back when there was massive spam | 09:20 |
| clobrano | acheronuk: I see, hope this can be fixed | 09:20 |
| acheronuk | up to ops in this chan. which is not me | 09:21 |
| RAOF | <freenode_clo "acheronuk: I see, hope this can "> Have you got a registered IRC account associated with the Matrix bridge? | 09:22 |
| acheronuk | clobrano: https://community.kde.org/Matrix#How_do_I_join_an_IRC_channel_that_requires_registered_nicknames.3F | 09:23 |
| acheronuk | ^^ for KDE matrix, but should be generic | 09:24 |
| clobrano | acheronuk: thanks! I'll have a look | 09:24 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 09:32 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 09:35 |
| Laney | hey oSoMoN seb128 | 09:38 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 09:40 |
| seb128 | happy friday! | 09:40 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, Laney, seb128 | 09:40 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme ? | 09:41 |
| didrocks | manque de sommeil cette nuit | 09:41 |
| didrocks | Martin a fait des siennes, mais bon, ça va :p | 09:41 |
| seb128 | :( | 09:44 |
| Laney | I'm alright, but feeling tired today, happy it's the weekend soon | 09:45 |
| Laney | hey didrocks! | 09:45 |
| seb128 | :) | 09:45 |
| seb128 | Laney: I've a feeling you are not going to like that one... | 09:45 |
| didrocks | hey hey Laney | 09:47 |
| Laney | 😳 | 09:47 |
| seb128 | we have a new ubuntu-font version to package | 09:48 |
| seb128 | I've heard you did deal with that once | 09:48 |
| Laney | come on | 09:48 |
| seb128 | so you might remember some of the details on how that's done? | 09:48 |
| seb128 | :( | 09:48 |
| Laney | there's loads of weird shit to check | 09:48 |
| Laney | you need to sync with sladen on it imho | 09:48 |
| seb128 | we can try at least | 09:49 |
| duflu | Oh, morning oSoMoN and seb128 | 09:54 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you? | 09:54 |
| duflu | andyrock, bug 1712122 looks out of date...? | 09:54 |
| ubot5 | bug 1712122 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Desktop keyboard shortcuts autorepeat (probably shouldn't)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1712122 | 09:54 |
| duflu | seb128, going well. And about to end the week. You? | 09:54 |
| seb128 | duflu: I'm good thanks :) | 09:55 |
| seb128 | duflu: any plan for the w.e yet? | 09:55 |
| duflu | seb128, a family dinner, plus infinite home improvements/chores | 09:55 |
| duflu | fun fun | 09:55 |
| duflu | You seb128? | 09:55 |
| seb128 | we have friends over for dinner on saturday, otherwise nothing planned yet | 09:56 |
| duflu | sounds similar | 09:57 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:59 |
| duflu | seb128, BTW your crash from yesterday is now formalised in bug 1819126 | 09:59 |
| ubot5 | bug 1819126 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT [St:ERROR:../src/st/st-image-content.c:155:st_image_content_get_preferred_size: assertion failed (priv->width > -1): (-1 > -1)]" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819126 | 09:59 |
| duflu | which doesn't look like what I said I thought it looked like | 10:00 |
| seb128 | duflu: thx | 10:01 |
| duflu | Night | 10:01 |
| seb128 | Laney: k, font bug opened and sladen pinged, le('s see how that goes | 10:02 |
| seb128 | duflu: have a nice w.e! | 10:02 |
| Laney | thx | 10:02 |
| seb128 | oh, didrocks opened it but with different scenario that I had | 10:02 |
| seb128 | it segfault that way when unlocking the screen here | 10:03 |
| didrocks | I guess this is triggered by any notifications from an application that doesn't have appinfo | 10:03 |
| didrocks | and so when size = -1 | 10:03 |
| didrocks | ironically, this is now hiding the bug of "too large icon size" | 10:03 |
| didrocks | so, it was only a warning, but it seems Marco turned it into a segfault in mutter now | 10:03 |
| seb128 | improvement! | 10:04 |
| didrocks | well | 10:04 |
| didrocks | I can claim the bug I was looking at is "fixed" :p | 10:04 |
| seb128 | well, Marco fixed your issue :p | 10:04 |
| didrocks | exactly | 10:04 |
| didrocks | I guess we'll discuss this next Tuesday anyway | 10:05 |
| * didrocks goes back to ubuntu-cdimage | 10:05 | |
| seb128 | I'm rls-dd-incoming it | 10:05 |
| Laney | the upstream bug has a merge proposal linked, does that fix it? | 10:05 |
| Laney | probably not, just a random mention | 10:06 |
| seb128 | Jonas said it's not likely but I didn't try yet | 10:06 |
| seb128 | going to wait for Trevinho to comment | 10:07 |
| Laney | k whatever | 10:07 |
| Trevinho | morning | 10:10 |
| Trevinho | Ah, I also got an email about this crash... | 10:10 |
| Trevinho | well, I wouldn't have been so strong in asserting it, but Jonas suggested me to assert it so I did xD | 10:10 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: the reason why size -1 was considered wrong is that we can't then have a proper resource scale on it, so we decided to not allow them. And well, the crash is a good way to know about these cases xD | 10:14 |
| Trevinho | while I prefer to be more conservative, there are different ideas :) | 10:14 |
| didrocks | yeah, I would be on your side of more conservative | 10:17 |
| didrocks | but anyway, at least, now, it's surfaced :p | 10:17 |
| Trevinho | you see :) | 10:17 |
| didrocks | I hope the test case helps triggering it | 10:17 |
| * Trevinho relocates to coworking | 10:17 | |
| didrocks | funny that I spent some hours in finding a good reproducer + debug to find that was the float casting | 10:18 |
| seb128 | good morning Trevinho | 10:23 |
| Trevinho | hi seb128 | 11:06 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, hey, in case you hadn't noticed, there are packages for gcc-mozilla (trusty and xenial) in ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa that fix building firefox 65 on arm* | 11:07 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, hopefully that's also enough to build firefox 66 | 11:10 |
| oSoMoN | are you looking at the armhf failures for 66, btw? | 11:10 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hi, you are kidding me? | 11:50 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, I told you several times that there are gcc-mozilla 6.5.0 packages available since december, e.g. also here https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/build-support | 11:51 |
| ricotz | the firefox 66 failures are not gcc related | 11:52 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, I know, but backporting 6.5.0 in its entirety is not needed 6.4.0 + that patch is enough | 11:52 |
| ricotz | I see, do as you like | 11:54 |
| ricotz | I am currently not looking into the 66 failures | 11:55 |
| oSoMoN | ok, I'll have a look at those, then | 11:56 |
| ricotz | thanks | 11:58 |
| seb128 | Laney: could you look at bug #1819103? I had it to check on my backlog because I saw it mentioned on other reports/forums before but now we have a proper report | 11:59 |
| ubot5 | bug 1819103 in indicator-application (Ubuntu) "Indicator Application and indicator-applet does not show indicators" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819103 | 12:00 |
| seb128 | it looks like having indicator-application installed on the system somewhat conflicts with the gnome-shell extension | 12:00 |
| seb128 | dunno if they fight for the same dbus name or what | 12:00 |
| Laney | guess so, I don't know how that stuff works but I can look if you want | 12:02 |
| seb128 | that would be nice, thx | 12:03 |
| Laney | something wrong with using rls process for that one, ooi? | 12:10 |
| seb128 | I guess we can | 12:11 |
| seb128 | it's one of those bugs where I don't know if it's important enough to be rls handled | 12:11 |
| Laney | no need, just wondering if there is some case for skipping it | 12:11 |
| seb128 | but I guess if it's important enough for me to ask you to own it, then it's important enough to be tracked by our process | 12:11 |
| Laney | I don't reproduce this on disco | 12:14 |
| Laney | do you? | 12:14 |
| seb128 | let me try | 12:16 |
| Laney | https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/wfm.png | 12:17 |
| seb128 | I installed it and did a shell reload, it's still there | 12:19 |
| seb128 | let me restart my session | 12:19 |
| seb128 | Laney: after installing indicator-application and restarting my session I don't get the transmission icon anymore | 12:26 |
| Laney | disco? | 12:26 |
| seb128 | yes | 12:26 |
| seb128 | journal has | 12:27 |
| seb128 | gnome-shell[15942]: [AppIndicatorSupport-WARN] Failed to acquire org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher | 12:27 |
| seb128 | which I guess is the issue | 12:27 |
| seb128 | it's a race who owns the dbus name first | 12:27 |
| Laney | sounds like it could be racy | 12:27 |
| seb128 | unsure how we can fix it, out of renaming out or making them conflct :/ | 12:27 |
| Laney | just don't make indicator-application autostart in gnome | 12:29 |
| seb128 | oh, good point, I though it would be dbus activated or something but there is an autostart | 12:32 |
| seb128 | having in OnlyShowIn=Unity makes sense I guess | 12:33 |
| Laney | can't be dbus-activated, otherwise they would conflict over the .service file | 12:33 |
| seb128 | right | 12:33 |
| Laney | does it have GNOME in there because of gnome-panel? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | I don't remember the specifics now :/ | 12:36 |
| seb128 | AutostartCondition=GNOME3 unless-session gnome | 12:36 |
| seb128 | how does that work again? | 12:37 |
| Laney | $DESKTOP_SESSION | 12:38 |
| Laney | could add a second one with ubuntu there | 12:38 |
| Laney | (probably) | 12:38 |
| seb128 | but then the first on would still trigger? | 12:45 |
| Laney | dunno, need to see | 12:47 |
| Laney | NotShowIn=ubuntu; it is | 13:07 |
| seb128 | ah, makes sense now that you say it | 13:09 |
| seb128 | thx Laney :) | 13:09 |
| seb128 | on that note, lunch! | 13:10 |
| kenvandine | mvo: did you look into the help url issue? | 15:35 |
| mvo | kenvandine: I haven't yet, let me do so now | 15:44 |
| mvo | kenvandine: whats the easiest way for me to reproduce? | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | mvo: well i actually can't reproduce it today :) | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | on disco, as we no longer have the menu in the panel | 15:45 |
| seb128 | the lcy wifi is crap, keeps required you to reauth | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | i was seeing it on the seeded snaps | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | mvo: if you are on cosmic or bionic, open gnome-calculator and click help in the menu | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | mvo: the core18 snaps actually seem fine | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | but we haven't published core18 versions of the seeded snaps yet | 15:47 |
| mvo | kenvandine: oh, interessting. so core18 works as expected but not "core" ? | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | yeah, apparently :) | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | i was only testing the seeded snaps the other day | 15:50 |
| mvo | kenvandine: is clicking on "help" on e.g. stable edit enough? | 15:50 |
| mvo | *stable gedit | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | and now the version of gnome-shell in disco doesn't provide a menu in the panel | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | gedit is core18 | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | gnome-calculator from stable should be a good test | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | mvo: the only snaps we have that haven't been updated to core18 are the seeded ones | 15:52 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: what version of snapd of whatever do I need to use to try the core18 help feature? | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | mvo: which version was that released in? 2.37.4 maybe? | 15:54 |
| jbicha | 'cause I'm on disco and it doesn't seem to work | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | oh, interesting | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | maybe it has something to do with me running edge | 15:55 |
| jbicha | edge of what? :) | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | core | 15:56 |
| seb128 | reading the irc log from earlier, didrocks your gs-connect if it's a segfault is probably bug #1816415 fixed by andyrock which is just waiting for the fixes to land in the packaging now | 15:56 |
| ubot5 | bug 1816415 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "gjs-console crashed with SIGSEGV in g_socket_receive_message_with_timeout()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1816415 | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | jbicha: what version are you running? | 15:56 |
| mvo | kenvandine: it should work with edge/core - I will update disco RSN not too | 15:56 |
| jbicha | I was using stable core & core18, snapd is 2.37.4+19.04 | 15:57 |
| andyrock | didrocks: https://trello.com/c/OxxvEMgt/263-gjs-console-crashed-with-sigsegv-in-gsocketreceivemessagewithtimeout if you want to track the status of the fix | 15:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: andyrock: oh nice! Ok, I'll keep the extension enabled thus to confirm it's back on track | 15:59 |
| didrocks | thx for the head's up | 15:59 |
| jbicha | yeah, help still doesn't work with core and core18 upgraded to edge | 16:00 |
| kenvandine | they are all working for me now | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | but weren't before | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | maybe a reboot? | 16:01 |
| jbicha | trying… | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | i hadn't rebooted in weeks | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | until this morning | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | shouldn't need a reboot... but that's all i can think of | 16:02 |
| jbicha | still didn't work | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | weird | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | anything on the console? | 16:10 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, jbicha: , I justtried on stock disco and that errros with | 16:18 |
| seb128 | user-open error: Supplied URL scheme "help" is not allowed | 16:18 |
| seb128 | on that note boarding, bbl, have a nice w.e desktopers | 16:18 |
| willcooke | see you seb128 | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | yeah, that's the old code | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | bye seb128 | 16:19 |
| seb128 | willcooke: btw the font uopdate with the new ttf is in disco now, let me know how it goes if you try it | 16:19 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 16:20 |
| jbicha | seb128: I'll upload fonts-ubuntu to Debian (experimental) too | 16:20 |
| willcooke | thanks jbicha | 16:21 |
| seb128 | k; as you wish | 16:21 |
| seb128 | you might want to update to 0.84 there? ;) | 16:22 |
| seb128 | (but then dont sync to ubuntu) | 16:22 |
| jbicha | bye :) | 16:24 |
| Laney | ah I forgot about bileto's stupid changelog trailers that it generates for me | 16:30 |
| seb128 | hehe | 16:31 |
| Laney | robru blamed my configuration but I forgot in what way and I remember that I didn't agree with him | 16:31 |
| didrocks | you just didn't remember in which way you disagreed | 16:33 |
| Laney | he was WRONG on the INTERNET | 16:34 |
| Laney | could have been irl tbh | 16:34 |
| didrocks | worse, it could be both! | 16:36 |
| * Laney hulk smash | 16:37 | |
| didrocks | ;) | 16:37 |
| willcooke | night all, have a good weekend | 17:58 |
| Laney | laterz | 18:00 |
| * Laney is off to climb a big hill (tomorrow) | 18:00 | |
| oSoMoN | have a good week-end everyone | 18:24 |
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