| Ham62 | I was wondering why I had such an old version of ubuntu on this system before | 02:23 |
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| Ham62 | for some reason the setup CD for any version past 12 hangs trying to access the disk | 02:23 |
| Ham62 | 14.04.4 just fails out saying it can't mount the media, 14.04.1 almost makes it into the partitioning screen but then just hangs at a blank purple screen | 02:24 |
| sarnold | you might want to try 14.04.6, 16.04.6, or 18.04.2, all of which are significantly newer than 14.04.4 | 02:27 |
| Ham62 | I don't know where my blank CD-ROMs are those are the only versions I had laying around | 02:28 |
| Ham62 | so I'm gonna finish this 12.04 setup then do thr upgrade to 16.04 through the update program | 02:28 |
| Ham62 | this will also be good practice for if I want to upgrade my main server system from 14 to 16 at some point | 02:28 |
| Ham62 | but I heard that's the last version with 32bit support so I'm afraid that might break everything | 02:29 |
| sarnold | that's fine I think all those images are too large to burn to a CD anyway, most folks use memory sticks if they're not pxebooting or similar | 02:29 |
| sarnold | 18.04 LTS appears to still support x86 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/ -- note the i386 directories | 02:30 |
| Ham62 | huh... I wonder what that was that I read about dropping i386 then | 02:31 |
| Ham62 | because someone at uni just brought it up to me a couple days ago when I was talking about maybe updating my system | 02:31 |
| sarnold | I believe we make people type something to confirm if they want to upgrade their x86 18.04 machines to 18.10 | 02:32 |
| Ham62 | ah | 02:32 |
| Ham62 | I just need to be really careful with that system because I even noticed some programs on the package manager wouldn't run on the system | 02:33 |
| Ham62 | they were using SSE2 or something which my CPU didn't support | 02:33 |
| sarnold | those discussions were long enough ago that I've forgotten the outcome, but I'm pretty sure 18.04 LTS is the last LTS release we're going to do for x86 | 02:33 |
| Ham62 | and that was just a text editor that was using SSE2 for some reason... apparently someone messed up the Go compiler config | 02:34 |
| sarnold | ahhhh, that makes some ense | 02:34 |
| Ham62 | someone told me to try recompiling it from source but the Go compiler package used the same instructions lol | 02:35 |
| Ham62 | and I didn't really feel like recompiling Go from source | 02:35 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:11 |
| === lotuspsychje__ is now known as lotuspsychje | ||
| vtq | Hi! I need to override some rules in an apparmor profile. That is, I want to create a profile that goes: #include <blah> (which includes deny /foo) ; then override that with an allow /foo. Can I do that? I've been trying and I can't seem to get it to work | 08:09 |
| lotuspsychje | !apparmor | vtq can this help? | 08:52 |
| ubottu | vtq can this help?: For information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor | 08:52 |
| vtq | ubottu: seen it already, yes | 08:54 |
| ubottu | I have no seen command | 08:54 |
| rbasak | kstenerud: looks like there's an issue between php7.2 and horde :-/ | 09:06 |
| rbasak | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#php7.2 | 09:06 |
| blackflow | vtq: afaik no, once denied, you can't allow. | 11:15 |
| kstenerud | rbasak I've updated the MP for php7.2 to include a depends for libicu | 11:21 |
| kstenerud | https://code.launchpad.net/~kstenerud/ubuntu/+source/php7.2/+git/php7.2/+merge/363924 | 11:21 |
| rbasak | kstenerud: replied in the MP, thanks. | 11:30 |
| kstenerud | One question: If I'm going to create a new MP with a new ubuntu version (ubuntu2 instead of ubuntu1), does that mean that the changelog requires a new entry (keep the ubuntu1 changelog entry as is, and add a new entry for ubuntu2)? Or do we just pretend ubuntu1 never happened and put everything together? | 11:56 |
| ahasenack | add a new entry for ubuntu2 | 12:00 |
| rbasak | kstenerud: what ahasenack says, but note that you should be able to infer that from my MP comment and your question. We can't pretend ubuntu1 never happened - see my MP comment. And I did ask for a "new changelog entry"! | 12:02 |
| lufi | Hi. I have two nics. 1 dhcp and 1 static. My problem is there are 2 default routes with the static network being priority. How can I set the dhcp the priority? | 12:34 |
| lufi | the server is a vm with static as hostonly and dhcp bridged (connecting to internet). here is my initial configuration of netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml https://pastebin.com/8QAZX2fQ | 12:35 |
| lufi | running `ip route` gives this defaults https://pastebin.com/pGP0YQLM | 12:36 |
| ahasenack | cpaelzer: thanks for the careful on the complicated samba related MPs | 12:37 |
| qman__ | lufi: the DHCP one already has a metric, so set the static one's metric higher | 12:37 |
| ahasenack | cpaelzer: the samba versioning has a precedent from the other time we went ahead of debian | 12:38 |
| ahasenack | where I added ~ubuntu to the +dfsg suffix | 12:38 |
| lufi | qman__ how do I do that? using `routes` in netplan? | 12:38 |
| ahasenack | the only reason is the dfsg big | 12:38 |
| ahasenack | had it been the upstream tarball directly, I would have used just +dfsg-0ubuntuN | 12:39 |
| ahasenack | but maybe my concern is invalid? | 12:39 |
| ahasenack | i.e., our tarball differing from whatever debian will create eventually | 12:39 |
| qman__ | I don't know anything about netplan, but surely there must be a metric option | 12:39 |
| lufi | Something like this? https://pastebin.com/8zzMucqu | 12:39 |
| qman__ | if you use the normal /etc/network/interfaces file, and have ifmetric installed, it's just "metric NNN" | 12:39 |
| lufi | oh ok. I've been trying that routes thing | 12:40 |
| lufi | yeah 18 has a lot going on | 12:40 |
| lufi | qman__ solved it by doing this https://pastebin.com/Pvqw3sNv | 12:45 |
| mike802 | hello all! | 14:41 |
| mike802 | i want to work on getting a publicly visible url for my ubuntu server, but i don't know where to start | 14:41 |
| mike802 | my php/apache site looks fine over a lan, and i've reserved the domain name on godaddy..... | 14:42 |
| mike802 | should i perhaps start in #ubuntu? | 14:43 |
| sdeziel | mike802: go to godaddy's panel, add the server's public IP under the name you want | 14:43 |
| sdeziel | mike802: here is the right place IMHO | 14:43 |
| mike802 | alright | 14:43 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: are you sure the git-ubuntu change doesn't count as a feature change? | 14:45 |
| mike802 | how do i look up my public ip? | 14:47 |
| mike802 | on windows i just type that into google | 14:47 |
| sdeziel | mike802: I'd first check if you server has it directly configured: "ip addr" | 14:48 |
| mike802 | nope... | 14:49 |
| sdeziel | mike802: OK so that probably means it's configured on a router/firewall in front of it that does NAT to translate it to its private IP | 14:50 |
| sdeziel | mike802: if that's the case, you will likely need to punch a hole in that firewall/router to do a port forward in order for people on the Internet to be able to reach your web server | 14:51 |
| Ussat | I would be very carefull and make sure php is secure | 14:52 |
| Ussat | php is known for exploits | 14:52 |
| mike802 | alright, sounds like i might not be ready for a full roll-out | 14:52 |
| mike802 | some good points to consider though | 14:52 |
| sdeziel | running a public service require a bit more attention to security indeed | 14:53 |
| Ussat | yup | 14:53 |
| mike802 | i know, i could post my link to the wrong channel and have all kinds of issues | 14:53 |
| mike802 | :/ | 14:53 |
| sdeziel | mike802: I'd recommend not relying on the "hidden" nature of the link in question | 14:54 |
| mike802 | alright..... | 14:54 |
| mike802 | as far as my php goes, i've barely even started scrubbing input for whitespace and reserved words, etc | 14:55 |
| mike802 | anyway, good stuff to consider, thanks | 14:55 |
| mike802 | alright, so i've barely used godaddy before, what an i looking for | 14:57 |
| mike802 | *am | 14:57 |
| mike802 | my account -> account settings -> domain reg defaults -> dns control - enter nameservers? | 14:58 |
| sdeziel | mike802: at this point, I'd suggest you stick with godaddy's provided nameservers | 15:03 |
| sdeziel | mike802: you likely want to add an "A" record | 15:04 |
| mike802 | ? | 15:04 |
| tomreyn | mike802: the server you are planning on bringing online, is this hosted with godaddy, too, or is this at your home? | 15:04 |
| mike802 | it is at my home | 15:04 |
| tomreyn | (or somewhere else entirely) | 15:04 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: you meant uvtool right? | 15:04 |
| mike802 | as i mentioned, over a lan it looks fine | 15:04 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: yes sorry | 15:04 |
| mike802 | i am trying to get away from using a 192-based url | 15:05 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: well, it is both - a fix to avoid guests with issues on cirrus to work better - and a feature to have much more modern things | 15:05 |
| mike802 | trying to find a starting point (not married to godaddy) | 15:05 |
| tomreyn | mike802: i see. then you need to find out whether your ISP does dynamic or static ip address assignment, i.e. does your public ip address change over time? | 15:05 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: I'm fine having it 19.10 as we have adressed the majority of issues in xorg as well | 15:05 |
| mike802 | alright, i'll come back later | 15:06 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: OK, thanks. There should be a PPA available. | 15:24 |
| rbasak | I also want to add support for network-config. | 15:24 |
| leftyfb | Are there any downsides to removing cloud-init from an ubuntu server install? | 15:35 |
| leftyfb | Seems like for bare metal, not being managed by MAAS or juju or anything, it just gets in the way | 15:35 |
| rbasak | How does it get in the way? | 15:36 |
| rbasak | If there's no datasource I don't think it's even active. | 15:37 |
| leftyfb | rbasak: it's multiple steps to set a hostname | 15:39 |
| rbasak | leftyfb: and how does removing cloud-init change anything? | 15:39 |
| rbasak | You set /etc/hostname, and /etc/hosts, and you're done. | 15:39 |
| leftyfb | rbasak: good luck with that | 15:39 |
| rbasak | OK, well if you don't want to explain to Ubuntu developers what the problem actually is, what are you doing on this channel? | 15:40 |
| teward | rbasak: he *may* be running into the defaults for how cloud-init is | 15:40 |
| teward | let me pull up that subiquity bug.. | 15:40 |
| leftyfb | rbasak: That in insufficient. You need to use hosnamectl set-hostname and you need to disable preserve_hostname: true in cloud.cfg. Otherwise cloud-init keeps the original hostname. Removing cloud-init allows you to just edit /etc/hostname | 15:41 |
| leftyfb | rbasak: sorry, I was still typing | 15:41 |
| teward | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1780867 | 15:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1780867 in subiquity "hostname unchangeable / some daemon changes and resets /etc/hostname" [High,Triaged] | 15:41 |
| teward | leftyfb: rbasak: ^ read up, known 'issue' | 15:41 |
| leftyfb | hm, I'm not so sure it's invalid for cloud-init. Let me check | 15:42 |
| teward | re-reported by me in December. cloud-init needs preserve_hostname in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg to be set to "true" | 15:42 |
| teward | leftyfb: ultimately not a bug in cloud-init but a bug in the config file that Subiquity leaves as-is | 15:42 |
| teward | Subiquity could alter that file :P | 15:42 |
| sdeziel | I can relate to that. cloud-init does revert hostname changes on reboots by default | 15:42 |
| teward | ^ this | 15:42 |
| rbasak | Thanks | 15:43 |
| leftyfb | So shouldn't the bug be that cloud-init should set the default to not revert? As opposed to subiquity changing it at install? | 15:43 |
| rbasak | That's definitely a valid bug. | 15:43 |
| rbasak | But I'm confused as I didn't think cloud-init was active after a subuiqity install. | 15:43 |
| rbasak | If it is, and it's meant to be, then removing it probably isn't a good idea. | 15:44 |
| rbasak | Fixing the bug of course is :-/ | 15:44 |
| leftyfb | https://photos.app.goo.gl/iQCS5LwWY4TqF1Zb7 | 15:45 |
| leftyfb | cloud-init is definitely active on a fresh install | 15:45 |
| rbasak | I guess subiquity injects a data source then | 15:45 |
| rbasak | TIL | 15:45 |
| metabsd | Hi :) | 15:46 |
| metabsd | Can I use clearpart with curtin or preseed in recent ubuntu version ? | 15:46 |
| teward | rbasak: cloud-init *is* active, I can confirm that. BUT it needs its defaults altered, IIRC that can be done as a subiquity "cleanup" task before the installer finishes, but that's a discussion for the Subiquity devs | 15:48 |
| teward | i'm not super familiar with the subiquity internals ;) | 15:50 |
| leftyfb | ok, so bottom line, removing cloud-init from a subiquity install has no adverse affect, correct? | 15:53 |
| teward | I can't verify that unfortunately leftyfb, YMMV. | 16:01 |
| coreycb | sahid: neutron-vpnaas 12.0.1 is now uploaded to the unapproved queue for bionic. i'll add the sru team to the bug now. | 16:46 |
| sahid | coreycb: ack thanks | 16:47 |
| Blueking | are there ways to find out what is where about finding what folders is where on multiple hdd's ? | 18:02 |
| metabsd | There a way to do templating storage layout and network config in MaaS ? | 18:09 |
| The_Actor | Hey guys | 18:49 |
| lordcirth__ | Hello | 18:50 |
| The_Actor | I am trying to set up an LXE container to upload to my virtulization server for practicing web development. Is there a base LXE image for download, or do I have to create it? | 18:53 |
| ahasenack | you mean LXD? | 18:54 |
| ahasenack | if you mean lxd, you can easily launch almost any release of ubuntu, debian, centos, fedora, etc, like this: | 18:54 |
| The_Actor | no LXE as in a virtual container that can run on a virtulized environment as opposed to a KVM image | 18:54 |
| ahasenack | lxc launch ubuntu-daily:bionic | 18:55 |
| ahasenack | I don't know what lxe is | 18:55 |
| teward | The_Actor: there is no such thing as an "LXE" container | 18:55 |
| teward | unless you mean LXE *hypervisors* | 18:56 |
| teward | (which is similar to OpenVZ) | 18:56 |
| teward | but that's close to LXC/LXD in how it operates | 18:56 |
| teward | which is far easier to get 'working' than OpenVZ or similar systems | 18:57 |
| The_Actor | There are two popular types of virtulization, the first is KVM and the newest cool way of doing it is via LXE. LXE is not a full virtulization and adds the bennefit of shared resources such as free RAM. | 18:57 |
| ahasenack | it sounds like you are describing lxd | 18:58 |
| teward | The_Actor: you've just described LXD | 18:58 |
| The_Actor | I am looking for a base image to upload to my virtulization server and make it into a practice webserver | 18:58 |
| The_Actor | one second | 18:58 |
| ahasenack | the launch command I pasted above will download the image (if you haven't it already) and launch the container | 18:58 |
| teward | LXE is "not new" technology, neither is OpenVZ. LX*D* is the 'newest' cool way of doing containerization and resource sharing on many host OSes, Ubuntu included. | 18:58 |
| teward | I think LXD is what you are actually looking at :P | 18:59 |
| The_Actor | I know it as LXC with the LXE file type extention | 19:00 |
| The_Actor | "LXC (Linux Containers) is an operating-system-level virtualization method for running multiple isolated Linux systems (containers) on a control host using a single Linux kernel." | 19:00 |
| The_Actor | Am I confused? | 19:01 |
| lordcirth__ | I have never heard of LXE, and I use LXC containers lots | 19:01 |
| lordcirth__ | What does a .LXE file do? | 19:02 |
| The_Actor | Ok well, I am running an EdgeLinux Server, I want to upload an LXC image to it. Do you know if there is a base image that is supported and adheres to the standards I can use to start? | 19:02 |
| ahasenack | do you have ubuntu installed on that server? | 19:03 |
| sdeziel | edgelinux seems to be a gentoo derivative that uses libvirt to drive KVM and LXC | 19:07 |
| lordcirth__ | He's gone, anyway | 19:09 |
| ahasenack | I wasn't sure if he meant a server type, or an OS | 19:14 |
| === arooni_team_b is now known as arooni | ||
| mason | I'm confused by something. I see a number of files in /usr/share/doc/libzfs2linux that aren't registered as belonging to any package, when I'd have expected them to belong to libzfs2linux. | 20:22 |
| mason | Maybe they're holdovers from when this box was 16.04. | 20:22 |
| lordcirth_ | mason, possibly. You can use apt-file search to check | 20:26 |
| mason | lordcirth_: as with dpkg -S, it doesn't find anything - that said, I'll look on a Xenial box and see | 20:27 |
| mason | Not there either. Odd. /usr/share/doc/libzfs2linux/README.Debian is one of them. | 20:28 |
| sdeziel | mason: on Bionic, those files are all symlinks to files owned by libnvpair1linux, exception made of /usr/share/doc/libzfs2linux/copyright. | 20:29 |
| mason | sdeziel: Ah, hah. Good catch. I hadn't considered that they might not be regular files. | 20:29 |
| mason | And I guess I never realized that dpkg -S doesn't track symlinks. | 20:30 |
| sdeziel | it seems like it does though: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S8cMtS8pNV/ | 20:32 |
| mason | Hrm. Wonder where my README.Debian came from then. I see it in the source package, but I don't see where it's being told to be installed. | 20:33 |
| mason | And you don't seem to have it in your paste. | 20:34 |
| mason | I don't see it in a fresh install of the library on a Xenial box, so that's not it. | 20:35 |
| mason | This is down a rabbit hole and probably not important, but I'm pondering using libzfs for an expansion of some stuff that's current sh. | 20:36 |
| mason | currently* | 20:36 |
| sdeziel | mason: I know there is/was a PPA for ZoL so maybe it left some files hanging around? | 20:37 |
| mason | So I looked for a man page, didn't see one, and then looked for plain docs, and noticed bits not registered as being part of a package. | 20:37 |
| mason | Maybe. I don't think I ever used it, but they came from somewhere. | 20:37 |
| sdeziel | on Xenial, I see no symlinks | 20:38 |
| sdeziel | FYI: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xb2Xpqfqx4/ | 20:39 |
| mason | hrm | 20:39 |
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