[00:24] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerk1: Due to an upgrade in the debhelper in 19.04 to 12 from 9, our autobuilds are going to be stuck for a while. 
[00:24] <Eickmeyer> We'll probably just have to change the debhelper (>=12) down to (>=9) to continue to allow the autobuilds and backports to build, and then change them again as release time for 19.10 gets closer to whatever version of debhelper will be then.
[00:24]  * Eickmeyer heads off to relax, this has been a tough week
[00:42] <tsimonq2> ...not from 9.
[00:42] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debhelper
[00:42] <tsimonq2> We haven't seen 9 since Xenial.
[00:44] <Eickmeyer> Then 11? That's what I'm seeing.
[00:44] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[00:49] <Eickmeyer> Cool
[15:22] <OvenWerk1> Eickmeyer: I think in general the backports should not have to have the date be part of the version number as the packages in backports should be packages that are a part of the next cycle and as such have version numbers ahaed of whatever is already installed.
[15:23] <OvenWerk1> The auto builds are alpha/beta -ish kinds of things and so the extra versioning is good.
[15:24] <OvenWerk1> BTW Eickmeyer Thankyou for pushing everything through.
[15:25] <OvenWerk1> I has been a busy week for me, This is the first I have been back in front of this computer for a few days
[15:33] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerk1: No problem, glad it got done. Looks like Ross has a really good shot at getting upload rights this time around, but we find out Monday.
[15:34]  * Eickmeyer expects his application to be rejected, but is okay with that.
[15:34] <OvenWerk1> 6 months to try again?
[15:34] <Eickmeyer> And by "his application" I mean me.
[15:34] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerk1: Yep.
[15:35] <Eickmeyer> If, for whatever reason, Ross's application gets rejected, we probably lose official flavor status. I doubt that will happen, considering the amount of endorsements he's received.
[15:35] <Eickmeyer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RossGammon/PPUApplication
[15:50]  * Eickmeyer is exhausted after this week
[15:52] <OvenWerk1> I can imagine
[15:53]  * OvenWerk1 can't understand the politics of packaging.
[16:22] <Eickmeyer> Lintian. Apparently it's pedantic and evil. Right, tsimonq2?
[16:23] <studiobot> <tsimonq2> :P
[16:23] <studiobot> <Eickmeyer> 😂
[16:26] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerk1: It wasn't just the packaging. It was finding MOTUs willing to do the uploading, not only that but the emotional investment and energy put forth and anxiety attacks.
[16:27] <OvenWerk1> Like I said politiks
[16:27] <OvenWerk1> (with a capital "P"?)
[16:49] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I hate politics, but I'm willing to do whatever it takes to keep a project running, especially one with so much heavy investment.
[20:19] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerk1: If you're wondering about the fail mail on the Live CD build, it's due to a bug they found in livecd-rootfs revealed by our package uploads. No problem on our side, it's just not handling the plymouth/grub themes gracefully.