[22:21] <Unit193> bluesabre: ...I did a thing last night: http://paste.openstack.org/show/XfhKlWudqSp1Bm2jKhDD
[22:22] <bluesabre> Unit193, oh, nice!
[22:24] <bluesabre> I should upstream that manpage
[22:26] <bluesabre> Hoping to tackle this tomorrow morning, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=921835
[22:27] <bluesabre> and then maybe at the beginning of the 19.10 cycle, we swap xfce4-screensaver in
[22:28] <Unit193> Ouch.
[22:48] <Eickmeyer> bluesabre: Is light-locker no longer a thing?
[22:50] <bluesabre> Eickmeyer, light-locker is unmaintained... it works, but the issues that happen around VT-switching with some hardware will basically persist forever
[22:50] <Spass> "it works" well not on my machines :)
[22:51] <Spass> probably because nvidia drivers
[22:51] <bluesabre> Yeah
[22:51] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I noticed problems too, especially with wake from sleep.
[22:51] <bluesabre> I can't reliably close my laptop while running light-locker and expect it to resume later
[22:52] <Eickmeyer> ^same, bluesabre.
[22:52] <bluesabre> xscreensaver and (gnome,mate,xfce)-screensaver only vt switch when you switch users, which avoids the various race conditions with resume
[22:57] <Eickmeyer> I'll have to see if we're using light-locker in our defaults.
[22:57] <Eickmeyer> By our, I of course mean Studio, but you all know that.
[22:58] <Spass> xscreensaver works fine on my 18.04 laptop (it's kind of ugly looking tho), I'm really happy about incoming xfce4-screensaver
[22:58] <Unit193> Spass: Yeah I've been using xscreensaver instead of light-locker, well basically the whole time. :3
[22:59] <Spass> yep, seems to be very solid
[22:59] <Unit193> I gave ll a trial on my netbook when we switched to it, but it was too broken for my tastes so I just flipped back. (And basically been maintaining xscreensaver in Ubuntu since '16 I believe.)
[22:59] <Unit193> ...Upstream is a bit hostile, but we don't have to deal with that.
[23:00] <Eickmeyer> xscreensaver is effective, if ugly.
[23:01] <Spass> now I'm used to that fiery head
[23:01] <Spass> maybe I'll look deeper to change that image in the future, if possible
[23:07] <Unit193> Wait, I have a disco box, why do I not use xfce4-screensaver on it?!
[23:08] <bluesabre> Test iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[23:08] <bluesabre> :D
[23:08]  * Eickmeyer uninstalls light-locker, installs xfce4-screensaver...
[23:08] <Unit193> Yeah except the only computer that gets locked often is on Bionic.
[23:11] <bluesabre> I'll leave this here... https://docs.xfce.org/apps/screensaver/start
[23:11] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl (late tonight or tomorrow)
[23:14] <Eickmeyer> Okay, now to see if it's in the Studio seed...
[23:17] <Unit193> Backported xfce4-session 4.12.1-6ubuntu1 now so that bionic/cosmic users can more easily do this too.