[03:57] Hi RIk. Upon autoremoving old Disco kernels. Plasma no longer starts after rebooting. The terminal message is: Aborting shell load: The activity manager daemon (kactivitymanagerd) is not running. … If this Plasma has been installed into a custom prefix, verify that its D-Bus services dir is known to the system for the daemon to be activatable. … org.kde.plasmaquick: Applet preload policy set to 1 … plasmashell: symb [03:57] lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kirigami/org.kde.desktop.so: undefined symbol: _ZN8Kirigami13PlatformTheme27setAlternateBackgroundColorERK6QColor [04:00] Re-installing plasmashell and kactivitymanagerd/disco failed to rectify. I tried manually starting /usr/share/kservices/kactivitymanagerd.desktop and received this error: [04:00] KDEInit could not launch 'kactivitymanagerd': … Could not open library 'libkdeinit5_kactivitymanagerd'. … Cannot load library libkdeinit5_kactivitymanagerd: (libkdeinit5_kactivitymanagerd: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) [04:01] I was not able to find libkdeinit5_kactivitymanagerd on an 18.10 system either so not sure where to poke next. [04:03] I suspect the autoremove killed something but I am baffeled as to what and how to mend. [04:08] @DarinMiller can you reinstall a kernel? [04:09] I never autoremove kernels until I've restarted because I'm scared of this [04:09] or how about install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop ? [04:10] The PC boots fine, in fact I am running from that PC now. [04:10] ah [04:10] I also tried --reinstall kubuntu-desktop [04:10] but plasma won't start [04:10] krunner and other apps launch just fine [04:10] reinstall plasmashell? [04:11] right, they aren't plasma [04:11] tried that too. [04:11] gosh [04:11] there used to be a "plasma-desktop" [04:11] might still be [04:12] !info plasma-desktop [04:12] plasma-desktop (source: plasma-desktop): Tools and widgets for the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.15.2-0ubuntu1 (disco), package size 1951 kB, installed size 10268 kB [04:12] worth a try [04:13] when you asked about plasmashell I assume you meant plasma-desktop.... [04:13] nope [04:13] plasmashell is sort of the engine behind it [04:14] as I understand it [04:14] I found out that rather than restarting or even logging out/in I could just quit plasmashell in the cli and then restart it in krunner [04:14] plasmashell does not have it's own package... [04:15] don't need that much anymore [04:15] !info plasmashell [04:15] Package plasmashell does not exist in disco [04:15] huh [04:15] yes. I restart it quite freqently across my systems also... [04:17] did you try `sudo apt install -f` [04:18] Good Idea, but that did not work either... [04:19] KCI rewrite prototype, I did this for Lubuntu but it's as easy as adjusting your own config file: https://ci.lubuntu.me/ [04:19] Complete with Britney support [04:20] I was attempting comparing boot times on my test box between Neon, 18.10, 19.04 and Solus. 18.04 and 19.04 require about ~44secs to boot (Long time for an SSD). Neon boots in ~18seconds. Solus boots in 10.5 secons! We have some work to do! [04:20] so @DarinMiller did you try `kquitapp plasmashell` and then try starting it in krunner? [04:21] Simon the rewrite in python? [04:21] Yep! [04:21] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-tooling/ [04:21] Cool!!!! [04:21] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ [04:21] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ppa-britney/ [04:22] It needs some polish but it's working thus far. [04:22] Valorie, plasmashell is not running so killing is not possible. [04:23] yeah [04:23] Of course, like I said, it's designed with Lubuntu in mind, but once it reaches feature parity with KCI we can swap it out. [04:23] and it won [04:23] t start from krunner [04:23] Very nice Simon! [04:23] did you learn a lot, tsimonq2? [04:24] Quite a bit :) [04:24] I use a terminal so I can see the launch failures, but same issue. [04:24] From here, adding additional features should be easy. [04:25] Sorry to interrupt your convo though :) [04:25] Simon, I love it. That is awesome! [04:25] @DarinMiller my last idea is `sudo dpkg --configure -a` [04:26] in case it's a wonked config [04:26] oh yeah, good idea.... trying it now... [04:28] annnnnd..... no dice [04:28] phooey [04:28] you need someone with more arrows in the quiver [04:29] tsimonq2: very nice work from what I can see [04:30] Thanks valorie :) [04:30] how long did it take you to get it this far? [04:30] I started earlier this week but the bulk of the work was done yesterday and today [04:31] So less than two weeks [04:31] wow [04:31] sweet! [04:31] It's easy once you can wrap your head around how Jenkins does things [04:33] Hey. I once wrote Excel macro call job Generator.... but it had nothing to do with KCI or open source... [04:34] Hahahahaha [04:45] plasmashell is up and running.... sudo apt purge kactivitymanagerd/disco followed by sudo apt install kactivitymanagerd/disco followed by sudo apt install plasma-desktop (because the purge killed it)... followed by sudo apt install sddm (cuz purge kactivitymanagerd made SDDM a target for autoremoval ??!!!)..... [04:45] wow [04:45] \o/ [04:45] :) [04:46] that was some work! [04:46] part of the adventures of beta testing.... [04:47] now back to trouble shooting the long Kubuntu boot times.... [04:49] Did you see my post on how fast Solus boots? It's crazy fast. I am running systemd-analyze attempting to help pin down why, but not making too much sense as the moment.... [04:49] Anyone know of any other tools to measure/test boot times and related delays? [04:50] brb... rebooting disco now that plasma is working... [04:56] systemd-analyze show similr times between Solas and Kubuntu, yet on this box, Solus boots to destop in 10.5sec vs Cosmic/Disco times of 41-44sec. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kw7tPxmSvK/ [05:08] bootchart ? [05:08] !info bootchart [05:08] Package bootchart does not exist in disco [05:08] hmm [05:09] well, that's what people sometimes [05:09] use [05:09] systemd-analyze will create an SVG chart. Googling bootchart to see if it is one and the same... [05:10] hmmm, website is a bit dated.... http://www.bootchart.org/download.html [05:20] wow, look at the difference in service enabled in 19.04 vs Solas: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zMBCXk6x7k/ [05:23] Attempting disabling NetworkManager-wait-online.service at 1st try.... [05:30] make no sense.... none of these service are taking up much time.... yet booting to desktop takes over 40sec. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5kNJ7sKz7D/ [05:33] systemd total time is 5.925seconds.... Anyone have any other ideas to try? [05:41] did you find bootchart? [05:42] I know that neon works on this every once in awhile [05:42] sitter in particular [05:42] neon require ~18seconds to boot... [05:43] see my link to bootchart^^^... website is 14 years old... [05:45] ok [05:46] oh gosh, dapper! [05:46] hasn't been packaged for awhile [05:47] might be good to bring this to the devel ML [05:47] others might have an idea [05:48] solus has very few services enabled for sure [05:48] yes. agreed. I will continue experimenting tomorrrow and send mail if I don't make headway... [05:49] might be worth looking at say, fedora and opensuse too [05:49] But systemd service are not the cause for the long delay only 6sec in total. [05:49] every added second or even partial second adds up though [05:50] systemd-analyze times are very close after disabling network wait... 24 vs 26s.... but somehow Solas is able to display a desktop in 10s. [05:55] might have to compare lubuntu and ubuntu boot times... maybe its a canonical config that's slowing down boots (but neon does not near as bad (18s) , so again makes no sense...) [09:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #236 for job mgmt_pause_integration (previous build: ABORTED) [10:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! 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[14:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_pimcommon build #78: FIXED in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_pimcommon/78/ [14:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_kdepim-addons build #144: STILL FAILING in 4 min 17 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_kdepim-addons/144/ [14:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_kmail build #152: STILL FAILING in 4 min 41 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_kmail/152/ [14:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_pim-data-exporter build #118: STILL FAILING in 5 min 2 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_pim-data-exporter/118/ [14:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_mbox-importer build #89: STILL FAILING in 6 min 26 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_mbox-importer/89/ [14:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_akonadi-import-wizard build #105: STILL FAILING in 4 min 37 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_akonadi-import-wizard/105/ [14:43] Fixed the slow boot times! 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I assume it is resolved locally? Even if it is animated, that sound strange. [16:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_plasma-workspace build #177: STILL FAILING in 3 min 5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_plasma-workspace/177/ [16:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_krita build #297: STILL FAILING in 19 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_krita/297/ [16:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kwin build #327: STILL FAILING in 21 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kwin/327/ [16:06] I fully agree. The desktop definitely appears much quicker and I am able to launch things immediately. So even if the boot is not fully complete, the boot experience feels much faster with it disabled. Two 18.10 and a 19.04 system improved dramatically with it disabled. Maybe it has a default timer somewhere and we can fix it? [16:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! 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[16:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_audiocd-kio build #29: FIXED in 27 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_audiocd-kio/29/ [16:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_audiocd-kio build #234: FIXED in 27 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_audiocd-kio/234/ [16:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_akonadi-notes build #253: FIXED in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_akonadi-notes/253/ [16:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kldap build #143: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kldap/143/ [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_breeze build #263: FIXED in 29 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_breeze/263/ [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kamoso build #250: FIXED in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kamoso/250/ [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_kamoso build #134: FIXED in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_kamoso/134/ [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kamoso build #36: FIXED in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kamoso/36/ [16:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_akonadi-calendar build #196: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_akonadi-calendar/196/ [17:04] @tsimonq2, 👌 [17:06] @tsimonq2 I will put my ideas in order, and if you are around later or maybe other I can tell you the good the bad and the ugly about the prototype [17:07] Go ahead [17:07] I understand it doesn't have feature-parity with KCI yet [17:07] I'd like to get there though. [17:08] yeah, I won't dig into lack of features because that's understandable but overall design [17:09] Sure, I'm open to ideas [17:09] allright, give me a few hours to put my ideas in order to avoid misunderstandings/confusion [17:09] ok [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_krunner build #151: FIXED in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_krunner/151/ [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_frameworkintegration build #208: FIXED in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_frameworkintegration/208/ [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kcalutils build #192: FIXED in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kcalutils/192/ [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_akonadi-contacts build #287: FIXED in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_akonadi-contacts/287/ [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! 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[19:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kglobalaccel build #157: FIXED in 32 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kglobalaccel/157/ [19:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_stable_kdevelop build #160: FAILURE in 3 min 44 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_stable_kdevelop/160/ [19:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_stable_kdev-php build #158: FAILURE in 2 min 47 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_stable_kdev-php/158/ [19:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_kdevelop build #155: FAILURE in 15 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_kdevelop/155/ [19:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kdevelop build #29: FAILURE in 15 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kdevelop/29/ [19:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_stable_kdev-python build #141: FAILURE in 8 min 53 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_stable_kdev-python/141/ [20:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [20:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kio build #278: FIXED in 33 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kio/278/ [20:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdevelop build #258: FAILURE in 6 min 17 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdevelop/258/ [20:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_messagelib build #316: STILL FAILING in 8 min 19 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_messagelib/316/ [20:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdev-python build #252: FAILURE in 3 min 45 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdev-python/252/ [20:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdev-php build #143: FAILURE in 3 min 52 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdev-php/143/ [20:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdevelop build #297: FAILURE in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdevelop/297/ [20:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdev-python build #183: FAILURE in 4 min 48 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdev-python/183/ [20:37] mparillo marco-parillo[m] frameworks 5.56 is here [20:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdev-php build #207: FAILURE in 4 min 55 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdev-php/207/ [20:38] 5.56 looking good so far. I was surprised it landed as I thought feature freeze was in effect. [20:39] @DarinMiller, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-framework/+bug/1819256 [20:39] Launchpad bug 1819256 in plasma-framework (Ubuntu Disco) "[FFe] KDE Frameworks 5.56.0 into Disco archive" [Undecided,Fix released] [20:40] we won't get 5.57 :P [20:40] frameworks aren't really about features [20:41] Oh, that was fast! Ahh I see how you and Simon tag teamed it... nice. [20:41] Did you see my comment regarding boot times and splash screen? [20:42] @DarinMiller, It requires both of us to ack under this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#Packageset_FFe_Delegations [20:43] @DarinMiller, Yeah, but makes not much sense to me. Have not had a chance to test [20:44] I tried looking at the ksplash source to see if we could set a timeout variable but did not see anything obvious. [20:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2830: SUCCESS in 1 min 2 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2830/ [20:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2830: SUCCESS in 1 min 5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2830/ [20:47] If it has just started doing this, maybe report a bug. If general, you will not be the only one to get it [20:48] If it is general, it would be better to fix upstream [20:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2830: SUCCESS in 4 min 13 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2830/ [20:52] somewhere between 16.04 and 18.10 boots s;owed but since I don't reboot very much I just ignored the extra time. A mutual friend of ours recommended I tried Solus as it "quite optimized" and that's when I discoverd boot times were so slow by comparison. [20:53] If someone else will confirm I will file a bug. [21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_stable_kdevelop build #161: STILL FAILING in 3 min 18 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_stable_kdevelop/161/ [21:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_stable_kdev-python build #142: STILL FAILING in 2 min 50 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_stable_kdev-python/142/ [21:09] it does seem a bit slow to me but as time as has gone on I've added memory and moved to SSDs [21:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_stable_kdev-php build #159: STILL FAILING in 4 min 15 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_stable_kdev-php/159/ [21:09] and I don't reboot often [21:09] back [21:10] @tsimonq2 if you are around we could discuss that bunch of things about CI [21:10] I have list of topics here [21:10] Sure [21:11] ok I will start with "an offer you cannot refuse": making the code pylint clean (or almost pylint clean) since the beggining [21:11] Yeah heh, lp_check.py is, I'm not 100% sure the rest is. [21:11] Good point. [21:13] just to add some info: some time ago we had a meeting and we decided to make KA pylint clean: since then I have been changing a zillion of code lines, and from my experience it's easier to handle if we do that since the beginning [21:14] Yeah, it's only 200 or 300 lines, shouldn't be too hard (I follow some of the rules like wrapping at 80 lines already) [21:17] this is what I get with pylint3: https://invent.kde.org/snippets/52 [21:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_kdevelop build #156: STILL FAILING in 16 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_kdevelop/156/ [21:17] ok, so not too bad. [21:18] yeah, try to do that with git-clone-all from KA 2.2 XD [21:18] hehe [21:18] just FYI regarding KA there's a cheesy pylint_check.sh script which includes all the code which was already cleaned up [21:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdevelop build #298: STILL FAILING in 17 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdevelop/298/ [21:20] that being said, if you don't want to do further comments about this, we could move to the next topic [21:20] move to the next topic? [y/n] [21:20] Yeah, no problem :) [21:20] y [21:21] ok [21:21] now, I would like to share my thoughts about the overall design and general concepts [21:22] I guess you did some time some backup script to store your data in a *.tar.gz or something like, didn't you? [21:23] @Santa, I don't get what you mean [21:23] What data are you referring to? [21:23] personal documents, photos, etc... [21:23] I don't know how this relates to this :) [21:24] I'll get there [21:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdev-php build #208: STILL FAILING in 6 min 49 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdev-php/208/ [21:26] but have you ever done a script for yourself (backup or otherwise) which you are the only one who knows how to use it? [21:26] I do have some backups, it's more manual (I haven't scripted much) + some Seafile stuff [21:26] @Santa, My script isn't particularly difficult :) [21:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kdevelop build #30: STILL FAILING in 24 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kdevelop/30/ [21:26] But yeah [21:26] I do have to document some of this stuff, I'm aware [21:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdev-python build #184: STILL FAILING in 7 min 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdev-python/184/ [21:27] ok, well, the thing is I have been struggling for a long time with something which could be named as the "backup script syndrome" [21:27] ahh :) [21:28] (i.e. my old siduction automation had it, kubuntu's old tooling has it, tritemio still has it, the kci has it...) [21:29] the thing is not just about lack of documentation [21:29] but also about the way the software works [21:31] Yeah, I get it [21:31] take for example the old kubuntu toling (i.e. the ugly monolithic scripts): they were somewhat documented [21:33] however it was almost impossible to do a dry run, and that was a very very bad thing, and back in the days I couldn't contribute to them very much precisely because of that [21:37] so now that we know what the "backup script syndrome" is, and going back to the reality of the CI world, one of the worst problems (if not THE worst) I see in the current CI is the fact that the tooling can't be executed outside the jenkins pipelines, thus making it more difficult to debug/fix/contribute [21:40] related to that: with the current KCI I think we also have no easy way to have a "testing" KCI and a "production" one [21:40] @Santa, Yes it can, you just have to set it up correctly :) [21:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_kauth build #117: FAILURE in 5 min 30 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_kauth/117/ [21:41] @tsimonq2, I'm talking about our current KCI FTR [21:42] Ohh [21:42] The CI I wrote can be modified completely outside of Jenkins [21:44] yeah, seems like a good starting point [21:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [21:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdevelop build #259: FIXED in 45 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdevelop/259/ [21:48] so, this allows me to move to the next topic, unless you have further questions about the "backup script syndrome"; I guess we both agree we should avoid it as much as possible. we can of course discuss *how* to do it but I just wanted for now to point out the general idea [21:48] Go ahead [21:52] ok, as a reminder, that's what I had on my personal experiment for the new KCI: https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/mechanical-octopus/ [21:53] Yup, I've discovered all of that on my own :) [21:53] Login is with LP [21:54] so that being said I would like to discuss the general picture of the new CI I had in mind, which I have the impression it's similar to yours but slightly different [21:54] Sure [21:54] and I also think we can agree on many things [21:56] so here's the thing: my rought idea was having a program to add jobs to the kci and another one to "build source packages in CI fashion"; this program would be used in the jenkins pipelines [21:57] Yup, so what I have implemented right now is "jobgenerator" which pulls the YAML file from the CI Metadata repo I have set up and creates all the jobs using the API [21:57] It'll automatically add jobs, I have yet to add code which automatically removes them [21:58] and the code is better than mine, but I would alter one thing I think [21:58] The jobs themselves takes the tip of upstream with the `ci/unstable` branch (this can be customized) and uploads to LP, checking that everything is published before marking the job successful [21:58] Sure [22:00] the program to add jobs I did is "kci-add-job" and is meant to be executed inside a git clone [22:01] from the git clone you can figure out the upstream git url [22:02] however I din't use that python lib you used so in that regard your code is better I think [22:02] @Santa, Well, you then have to deal with the overhead of cloning *everything* every time "jobgenerator" is ran. [22:02] I have a simple YAML file (and I'm close to cutting the size in half (if not more) by templating it) [22:04] yeah, but that's not my point [22:05] the thing is: I was trying to achieve a couple of things: one is being able to add/change a CI job individually [22:06] this way you could have a testing/experimental CI with a few sample packages [22:06] Yeah, the disadvantage with what I have now is when you edit the config, all of the jobs are rebuilt. I don't know if there's any other way. [22:06] @Santa, Oh, yeah, look at the YAML I have deployed [22:07] You can set different upload targets and releases per job by overriding the defaults. [22:07] Every variable set globally for all of the jobs can be overridden. [22:08] The next step from here is templating things, so you can just set a template for a group of packages that, as a group, override the defaults. [22:08] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/browse/master/ci.conf [22:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [22:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdev-python build #253: FIXED in 21 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdev-python/253/ [22:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [22:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdev-php build #144: FIXED in 22 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdev-php/144/ [22:11] with "group of packages" what do you have in mind? [22:11] something like lxqt/frameworks/plasma or something user-defined? [22:14] Take an example … ```defaults: … ... … upload_target: "ppa:lubuntu-ci/unstable-ci-proposed" … ... … templates: … kci_unstable: … upload_target: "ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable" … packages: … - name: "calamares" … - name: "akonadi" … template: "kci_unstable" … - name: "terrible-package" … upload_target: "ubuntu"``` [22:15] When jobgenerator goes through this, calamares will upload to ppa:lubuntu-ci/unstable-ci-proposed, akonadi to ppa:kubuntu-ci/unstable, and terrible-package to ubuntu. This applies to any variable we choose to set. [22:18] ack, ok [22:19] so basically you have the "let's just add a few packages as a sample" under control [22:19] Yeah [22:20] the second thing I had in mind about my experimental kci-add-job is data duplication [22:20] Oh? [22:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [22:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_unstable_kauth build #118: FIXED in 34 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_unstable_kauth/118/ [22:22] yeah. let's say we both agree that this use of YAML you are doing to create jobs is cool (right now I tend to think it is) [22:24] the next issue is, having "combo breakers": i.e. packages with different names [22:24] and the next how to compose a YAML for a zillion of packages [22:25] @Santa, What's a more efficient alternative? :) [22:25] @Santa, Yeah, that's a good point [22:25] We don't have any of those in Lubuntu [22:26] but we do in Kubuntu [22:26] Right [22:26] and I think we both agree we could try to make something generic to be used both in lubuntu and kubuntu [22:29] so the question is: what do you think about making a command, let's say "update-ci-metadata" to be executed against git packaging clones which would update the yaml? [22:29] so we could do something like "do-all update-ci-metadata" [22:30] @Santa, I'm not opposed to it, but there's several bits that aren't defined in the package itself. [22:30] such as? [22:30] Upload target [22:30] Releases to define jobs for [22:30] Default packaging branch and default upstream brach [22:31] anything else? [22:31] Not really [22:31] ok [22:31] Oh, and if it's used for both Lubuntu and Kubuntu we'd need to define packaging repos [22:31] Maybe those can just be put in a template [22:32] And when calling `update-ci-metadata` it could take a template as the argument [22:32] I think there's a better way [22:33] ok [22:33] consider this: [22:34] upload target[s] -> we can figure out a "default" one given the "release type" (= frameworks, plasma, applications, lxqt ...) [22:36] Releases to define jobs for -> add a "-d/--dists " argument to the "update-ci-metadata" command [22:37] Default packaging branch and default upstream branch -> figure it out from the release type, same as the upload target[s] [22:38] any flaws? comments? [22:39] Works for me [22:40] ok, so let's move to the other program of my kci experiment [22:41] gbp-kci [22:41] ok [22:44] https://invent.kde.org/snippets/53 [22:44] ↑ that's the command from your template [22:44] Yup [22:46] so, in order to reduce the "backup script syndrome", would you agree part of that command should be actually a gbp-something command from KA? [22:46] specifically the part which builds the source package [22:51] @Santa, Unless KA becomes flavor-agnostic, I would rather not use KA tooling for this [22:52] that's the thing; we can make it flavor agnostic. pretty much like your ci [22:53] I'm not against it, but I'd rather it be with the CI codebase or at least an associated repo like "ci-scripts" :) [22:55] To be clear: I'm totally for writing the script. [22:55] I think it's a great idea. [22:55] But if it's something you'd expect anyone but Kubuntu to use, we should store it in a location that makes sense for that purpose. [22:56] that's another thing, I think it would be interesting, in the long term, to not separate completely the ci from automation [22:57] and for the record, we can rename kubuntu automation as ubuntu automation XD [22:58] I wouldn't be opposed to it, if there's no Kubuntuisms in there :) [22:58] ok [22:58] it's getting late here, so let's continue tomorrow? [22:59] this way I can also write down a few reasons why I think there shouldn't be a "wall" between ci code and automation code [23:01] @Santa, Sure [23:01] ok, good night everyone [23:01] For the record, you're more than welcome to ping me anytime, either here or in a PM [23:02] 👍 [23:02] This is async, I'll get back to you when I can :) [23:02] haha [23:08] That seemed productive :) [23:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kcachegrind build #33: FAILURE in 12 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kcachegrind/33/ [23:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_trojita build #28: STILL FAILING in 15 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_trojita/28/ [23:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_qtcurve build #32: STILL UNSTABLE in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_qtcurve/32/ [23:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kmag build #35: STILL UNSTABLE in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kmag/35/ [23:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_sddm build #29: STILL UNSTABLE in 19 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_sddm/29/ [23:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_stable_kalzium build #124: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_stable_kalzium/124/ [23:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project cosmic_stable_kdeconnect-kde build #10: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/cosmic_stable_kdeconnect-kde/10/ [23:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_krita build #34: STILL FAILING in 39 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_krita/34/ [23:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_sddm build #175: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_sddm/175/ [23:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kdiagram build #26: STILL FAILING in 46 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kdiagram/26/ [23:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_konversation build #28: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_konversation/28/ [23:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_xdg-desktop-portal-kde build #48: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_xdg-desktop-portal-kde/48/ [23:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kdeconnect-kde build #33: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kdeconnect-kde/33/ [23:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_konqueror build #36: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_konqueror/36/ [23:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_libkgapi build #18: STILL FAILING in 5 min 47 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_libkgapi/18/