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scott_https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2Rc9nM9QV6/00:19
scott_Does any of that explain why kvm (and possibly samba) can't access my NTFS partitions?00:19
goldkatzeOn disco/19.04, does either okular or xournalpp render a smiley on page 9 (page 395) of this file? https://0x0.st/zHQr.pdf00:33
goldkatze(Earlier Ubuntu versions ship with older versions of the poppler PDF rendering library)00:34
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cumaI cannot hear any sounds on the computer. "dummy outout" it seems. is this normal?01:28
goldkatzeNo.01:29
Bashing-om!sound | cuma01:30
ubottucuma: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.01:30
cumaI am trying01:32
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cumaIs the sound card physically installed and recognized by your hardware? -lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"- Is it normal to wait a long time after writing?02:03
amosbirdHi, how can I remove secret key from gpg key file?02:20
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Elodinis default ubuntu already using gnome?03:03
Elodinor is still using unity? i heard a while ago it was dropping unity for gnome03:03
krytarikElodin: Yep, for a few releases already.03:04
Elodinmy father came to me asking for a distro, so 18 has gnome already?03:04
Elodinthanks03:04
krytarik!unity03:05
ubottuUnity is a graphical shell for the GNOME desktop environment. Ubuntu used it by default from 11.04 to 17.04. For more information, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity03:05
Haunted330This channel is closed. You are going to have to leave.03:17
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DalekSecHaunted330: Please don't pull that crap here.03:19
Haunted330This channel is closed. You are going to have to leave.03:19
Haunted330You need to leave. We are closed.03:19
Haunted330There is not crap being pulled or anything03:19
DalekSecHaunted330: Please, drop the subject.  It's incorrect and you know this.03:20
Haunted330Im just here doing my job. Thats all03:20
Haunted330please do not argue with me03:20
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mIk3_08hello guys... just wanna ask here, who is already using kernel 5.0 in Ubuntu 18.04 OS type 64bit03:53
mIk3_08hello guys... just wanna ask here, who is already using kernel 5.0 in Ubuntu 18.04 OS type 64bit03:55
plongshotAre there any known issues with ugrading my distribution from the command line?  I remember when I started using ubuntu and would see posts in the forums about problems.03:56
plongshotAnd, is there any way to output  a list of the program names I have on my launch bar?03:58
pragmaticenigmaplongshot: As long as you follow the documentation on upgrading, you shouldn't have issues. Also, make sure you have backed up your system or have a recent back up03:58
Bashing-omplongshot: ^^ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes .03:58
pragmaticenigmaplongshot: what version of ubuntu are you currently on?03:59
plongshotpragmaticenigma: Thanks. I was gong off of this:  https://www.ostechnix.com/upgrade-ubuntu-single-command/  Desktops section03:59
plongshotpragmaticenigma: 16.04 LTTS03:59
pragmaticenigmaplongshot: that would be an example of doing it wrong... don't follow that article04:00
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plongshotok04:00
plongshotthanks for steering me straight04:00
pragmaticenigmaplongshot: for reference, the issue with that article is the "-d" after the do-release-upgrade ... the "-d" sets your installation on the development channel, which is BETA04:01
pragmaticenigmaplongshot: it wouldn't upgrade you to 18.04, it would instead put you on 19.04 which is still in development. Which might explain why you had issues in the past04:02
pragmaticenigmait also would take you off the LTS release cycle04:02
mIk3_08Bashing-om: are using the latest kernel 5.0?04:02
pragmaticenigma!latest | mIk3_0804:03
ubottumIk3_08: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.04:03
Bashing-ommIk3_08: No .. My daily is 18.04 - 4.15.0-46-generic .04:03
plongshotpragmaticenigma: So, according to the text at the link you gave, If I want to upgrade from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS I have to do a total of 4 upgrades? (from 16.04 to 16.10, to 17.04, to 17.10, to 18.04)?04:04
plongshotDoes that sound right?04:04
pragmaticenigmaplongshot: no04:05
mIk3_08Bashing-om: Thanks... same here. but planning to use the latest kernel. is it advisable?04:05
plongshotWhat do they mean by "Renewing the Installation" in that article?04:06
Bashing-omplongshot: NO ! LTS to LTS . what shows in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?04:06
mIk3_08Thanks ubottu... is it okay to use latest kernel?04:06
Bashing-ommIk3_08: read the article in UWN this week, We are advised to wait for 19.04 stable.04:07
plongshotBashing-om: Prompt=lts04:07
pragmaticenigmamIk3_08: ubottu is a bot, also, the latest kernel is not supported in this channel. Installing it is at your own risk and the volunteers in this channel will be unable to assist you with issues you have with your computer going forward04:08
plongshotSo I (ideally) will have all my settings, installed programs, items on the launcher, config in general when this i s all over?04:09
pragmaticenigmamIk3_08: Let me rephrase... Kernel 5.0 is not supported in Ubuntu yet. This channel is only able to support Ubuntu installations running kernels from official Ubuntu software sources04:09
mIk3_08pragmaticenigma: Thanks...04:09
Bashing-omplongshot: Then when all is ready will go 16.04 to 18.04 :) .. make sure if you have nvidia graphic that you revert to nouveau ( for one thing ).04:09
plongshotI mean, that's the intended behavior of the operation?04:09
plongshotHow can I find info how to do that?04:09
pragmaticenigmaplongshot: Correct, using the instructions here "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BionicUpgrades" ... with exceptions of programs not provided by Ubuntu's official software repos, everything will continue to be where you left them and have had them configured04:11
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sergeyКлепченко Ольга04:23
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plongshotMy driver is listed as "driver=i915"  is that something I would have to worry about or do any tweaks for if I did a system upgrade?04:30
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plongshotBashing-om:  ^ ?04:32
Bashing-omplongshot: Nope that i915 is Intell, and it is in the kernel. Nothing to fear there :)04:34
amazoniantoadHow do I specify bridge ports with netplan?04:38
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Bashing-omamazoniantoad: Here: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan .04:45
amazoniantoadthanks04:45
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sanchitrkhi04:55
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srcoldham1mir and unity8 or gnome for ubuntu which one will be the best05:15
gunarm_I have an nfs export I just made and 3 machines can mount it just fine but one is getting "access is denied by server".  any ideas how to figure out what is causing that?05:16
Bashing-om!best | srcoldham105:16
srcoldham1my feeling is that development should be on mir and unity8 because of convergence and lightweight interface. Devlopment on a desktop application could also work on a mobile device with some minor UI changes and scaling and snaps could take that lead snaps on mobile iot and desktop full unification05:22
Bashing-omsrcoldham1: See: https://news.softpedia.com/news/purism-announces-convergence-for-its-linux-phones-and-laptops-525203.shtml .05:25
srcoldham1< Bashing-om>: yes they have achieved this but this does not apply to ubuntu our goal would be for ubuntu since this is an ubuntu forum plus ubuntu touch and unity8 would be a lot better than purism considering canoncial's reach and power both in the server space and strong influnce in desktop also05:28
Bashing-omsrcoldham1: You will be better served on #ubuntu-discuss; as this is not a support issue for this channel.05:31
srcoldham1ok thanks05:33
plongshotI'm creating my first cron job. Is this valid format for a cron scripts for it to run every day?  15 10 * * 0 <command>05:37
lotuspsychje!cron | plongshot can this help?05:42
ubottuplongshot can this help?: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto05:42
plongshotlotuspsychje: I'm having a problem wher I get the error no crontab for user if I run crontab -l (sudo corntab -l gets no crontab for root). I have a script located in /etc/cron.daily but I'm wondering if I have written it's contents correctly. (I read somewhere that you have to begin the command with a time sequence of five fields) and my script did not contain that.05:48
plongshotSorry forgot to say...  I also got the minute error when I ran crontab -u [user] <file>05:48
gunarm_plongshot, i'm no expert but your paste *does* have fields in the time sequence.  the last one I think is day of week though which will prob make your task run once per week05:54
gunarm_you can see the fields in the comment in /etc/crontab05:54
gunarm_does have 5 fields*05:54
gunarm_sometimes you need a user after the 5 time fields though I believe05:54
gunarm_yours has no use after time erroneous day of week field so the error makes sense05:55
gunarm_no user05:55
bidelHi :)06:13
jbaumgartner_hello06:13
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sitm2is Golang worth learning?06:15
lotuspsychjesitm2: the scope of this channel is more about ubuntu support06:15
sitm2is there a ubuntu lounge channel?06:16
lotuspsychjesitm2: maybe #programming help you too06:16
lotuspsychjesitm2: sure06:16
lotuspsychjesitm2: #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic06:16
sitm2thanks!06:16
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plongshotIs there any way to tell if a cron job has been executing? Some log or something?06:26
alocer"/var/log/cron"06:29
ilias_grhi all. I am running Xubuntu 16.04.6 and because April 2019 is coming I run ubuntu-support-status command and I get 1455 packages (82.3%) supported until April 2021 (Canonical - 5y) --- 205 packages (11.6%) supported until April 2019 (Community - 3y) --- 47 packages (2.7%) supported until April 2021 (Community - 5y) --- 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded and 60 packages (3.4%) that are unsupported. Is there any way (inste06:31
ilias_grad fo upgrade the system) to keep supported some of the packages which will be no more supported after April 2019?06:31
lotuspsychjeilias_gr: 16.04 is still supported longer then april06:32
lotuspsychjeilias_gr: its 14.04 going end of life in april06:32
lotuspsychje!yy.mm | ilias_gr06:33
ubottuilias_gr: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle06:33
ilias_grlotuspsychje: I think it won't be supported any package supported from the Community. Isn't it?06:35
lotuspsychjeilias_gr: if you follow the LTS way and keep your packages clean from the official repos, you will be good06:36
ilias_grlotuspsychje: I have on my system LTS version and I am receiving any update normally. Is it OK for the future and will my system safe & updated until Apr 2021?06:37
lotuspsychjeilias_gr: depends on how you managed your system, maybe pastebin your sources.list to the channel? volunteers can take a look06:38
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GerowenIs "dist-upgrade" still necessary if you're using apt instead of apt-get?07:23
GerowenI could be wrong, but I seem to remember things like new kernel versions were held back without "dist-upgrade", but I just got new kernels on my raspberry pi with just a normal "apt upgrade"07:23
p3tr1nn1I think it is still necessary gerowen07:24
Gerowenp3tr1nn1: K, was just curious, thanks, :-)07:25
p3tr1nn1no problem07:25
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conjoalist search networks07:39
conjocan anyone tell me how to use alist to search for a channel on a given topic please07:40
OerHeks!alis07:41
ubottuAlis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"07:41
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conjothanks07:55
conjofound a page and the help option07:55
conjohaving trouble signing in with sasl enabled have ticked the box and selected the tile with sasl msg nickserv+passwd and entered my details but it wont allow me to login see errors shown https://freenode.net/kb/answer/findingchannels08:01
conjousing hexchat08:01
krytarikconjo: Please, any further network or client support in #freenode or #hexchat, respectively.08:02
conjosorry08:03
marcellino71lucio dalla08:09
azadI want to upload/create files on a local ftp server(vsftp) as anonymous and my vsftpd.conf is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KtYxY4ZKJ9/ but I can access but no write permission still08:13
tomreynGerowen: the 'apt' man page calls it 'full-upgrade', but 'dist-upgrade' should also work.08:13
tomreynazad: and the error message sent to the client and the log message logged by the server are?08:14
azadtomreyn, the logs https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7zZ88BW9Bq/ and yes, I am actually pavlushka on a client's machine08:18
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azadtomreyn, and the local clients to this ftp server are windows machines08:20
tomreynthe log shows only anonymous logins08:23
tomreynoh you want anonymous uploads, ok08:23
lotuspsychjeazad: be carefull with ftp, youl get hammered 24/7 :p08:24
azadlotuspsychje, its a localonly08:24
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azadtomreyn, yes, anonymous uploads08:25
* root_ 08:26
tomreynazad: maybe compare with this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60508/how-to-configure-an-anonymously-writable-ftp-server-with-vsftpd08:29
azadtomreyn, on it08:29
tomreynthis config is old, though, so i'm not sure it still applies. i'm not really into ftp servers anymore, stopped using them years ago08:30
tomreynhadyou considered alternatives?08:31
azadtomreyn, actually I use sftp but it's on request for a easy-peasy solution for file-storage but no sensitive data08:32
tomreynand sftp is not "easy peasy"? then why not use http?08:32
sazawalHello. The DSL connection on my Lubuntu 18.10 is not working. I have copied the connection settings from nm-connection-editor of my Ubuntu 16.04 where it works perfectly. There are some extra settings of "Parent Interface" and "PPP Interface" in the new version. How do I fix it?08:33
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azadtomreyn, it should be browsable through file-browser, that's the goal08:34
tomreynazad: webdav would be.08:34
lotuspsychjesazawal: you want to connect a dsl with login:pass?08:35
sazawallotuspsychje: yes, I have my own username and password.08:35
lotuspsychjesazawal: compare here: https://medium.com/@dineshsonachalam/creating-a-dsl-connection-on-ubuntu-18-04-1-lts-c5b7845beea008:36
sazawallotuspsychje: This looks like the same solution as the first answer here https://askubuntu.com/questions/966647/how-to-create-a-dsl-connection-in-network-manager-in-ubuntu-17-10  But it didn't work for me.08:37
lotuspsychjesazawal: maybe lubuntu is missing something you need?08:38
sazawallotuspsychje: yes, I guess. By the way I have installed pppoe and pppoeconf, just to see if it works. Nothing helped so far.08:39
lotuspsychjesazawal: but did you try that with nmcli?08:39
lotuspsychjesazawal: also found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/177171308:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1771713 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager doesn't lits created connection in 18.04." [Undecided,New]08:40
sazawallotuspsychje: yes, I tried that too. I mean from the askubuntu link, I have created the DSL connection from the terminal, and then opened it in nm-connection-editor to enter username and password. In your link it is entering the username and password from the nmcli console, which is the same I guess.08:41
lotuspsychjesazawal: so i presume after adding, in lubuntu's network settings it doesnt show neither?08:42
sazawallotuspsychje: By the way it seems to me that the questions are for "not finding a DSL connection option" in the nm-applet. But I found the option anyway in nm-connection-editor (I had to install network-manager-gnome though).08:43
sazawallotuspsychje: Let me check the launchpad bug.08:43
lotuspsychjesazawal: if you thinks its relevant, please affect to the bug and add your story08:44
tomreynsazawal: Here's how you can create a DSL connection on the terminal:  nmcli con edit type pppoe con-name "My DSL connection"08:48
tomreynthis enteres the interactive editor, where you can type: set pppoe.username "My ISP provided DSL username"08:48
sazawallotuspsychje: After adding it either in lubuntu default coonection editor, or in nm-connection-editor, I see it in the list of "Known Connections", but doesn't connect at all. The launchpad bug is a bit confusing to me. What is the meaning of "doesn't lits created connection"?08:50
tomreynthen you type "save", then "quit". now the nm-applet should show this connection. Clikcing it would trigger a conneciton attempt, bringing up a "DSL authentication" prompt with the username pre-filled, an empty "service" field which you keep empty (unless ISP instructed otherwise), and a password field where you place the SP provided DSL password.08:50
lotuspsychjesazawal: yeah the user didnt explained himself very well in the bug...08:50
lotuspsychjetry what tomreyn suggests sazawal ^08:50
sazawaltomreyn: I guess this is the workaround because you do not see "Create new DSL connection" in the nm-applet. But this can be done using nm-connection-editor. Anyway I tried this from it from https://askubuntu.com/questions/966647/how-to-create-a-dsl-connection-in-network-manager-in-ubuntu-17-10, doesn't make a difference.08:52
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tomreynsazawal: in my (limiteD) experience, for some advanced configurations (such as maybe PPPoE) network manager needs to be configured on the CLI, GUI configurations just won't work. that's why i'm suggesting this workaround.08:54
sazawallotuspsychje: tomreyn I am not seeing any blinking or animations in the Network icon when I connect the DSL cable. So, I am suspecting either its a hardware or a adapter-driver issue. I am going to make a bootable Ubuntu 18.10 USB and try connecting the DSL first.08:54
tomreynlooks like this is what you did, though08:55
tomreynif it fails with the live image, maybe try a 16.04.6 live image, too, to rule out a hardware issue.08:56
sazawaltomreyn: Yes you are right, because it works on my other Ubuntu 16.04 laptop.08:57
tomreyndo you really have a dsl modem only, though, not a router? most people have routers nowadays.08:58
sazawaltomreyn: Lol, yes. Actually I am trying fix it for an old friend. They are scared of new technologies you know.09:00
tomreyndo they use wheels?09:00
sazawaltomreyn: no, not yet :)09:01
raniesantosIs xdotool installed by default on ubuntu and ubuntu-based distros? I forgot whether I installed it myself or it was already there when I first switched.09:01
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OerHeks!info xdotool09:02
ubottuxdotool (source: xdotool): simulate (generate) X11 keyboard/mouse input events. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.20160805.1-3 (bionic), package size 41 kB, installed size 119 kB09:02
OerHeksnope, it is extra09:02
raniesantosthanks09:03
tomreynsazawal: i can understand and appreciate the approach where you don't want proprietary hardware to manage your internet connection. for the dsl modem, this will always be proprietary, sadly. but there are open hardware routers, too, and it's a lot more convenient especially if they have multiple internet accessing devices.09:03
amazoniantoadHow do I add a virtual interface under netplan? I can't find documentation online09:03
cumamy neighbors came to visit the condolences. we could not solve the sound problem for three days.09:04
azadtomreyn, it is working now somehow, tried something, can't tell which one triggered the permission. :p09:08
cumaDo you have suggestions on updating bios.09:08
sazawaltomreyn: right. The real reason is that my friend (65 now), has the impression that having a new router would break everything that is already working.09:09
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tomreynamazoniantoad: for netplan, try #ubuntu-server - also see https://askubuntu.com/questions/1054034/netplan-how-to-describe-veth-peer-links (in case veth is what you want, you don't specify the type of virtual NIC)09:10
tomreynsazawal: well, sometimes that's just true. and soemtimes, especially elderly people, are too worried about change.09:11
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amazoniantoadtomreyn, I'm just ditching netplan and sticking with ifupdown. What's the deal with netplan anyway? Why use it at all? I've always thought that if something isn't broken, don't fix it09:13
tomreynamazoniantoad: ifupdown support is fading, so it is replacing somthing that'll break soon.09:14
amazoniantoadtomreyn, oh. well netplan isn't even fully developed yet. I mean you can't even make additional interfaces in it!09:15
cumaCan you help me update the BIOS?09:15
tomreynamazoniantoad: netplan is a management utility for creating systemd.networks and netwokr manager configurations. it is optional, you can also configure these directly.09:15
tomreynamazoniantoad: netplan is a management utility for creating systemd-networkd and network-manager configurations. it is optional, you can also configure these directly.09:16
tomreyn^ typos fixed09:16
tomreyncuma: that's entirely a ##hardware matter, not ubuntu related. but i can help if you join #ubuntu-offtopic or another channel of your choice (can be a new one) where it's not off-topic.09:17
amazoniantoadohh I see09:18
cumakimsenin dıngılında değil09:20
cumahemen şutla gitsin09:21
cumai will visit the rooms you write09:22
cuma# hardware09:23
cumaşaka gibi09:23
tomreyncuma: english only here, please09:26
cumasorry, i will pay attention09:26
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tomreyncuma: i don't see you in ##hardware and you haven't told me another channel to join, so i'll move on to something else.09:37
tomreynoh, i take this back09:37
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whoareU  i ready to restore the deleted file using debugfs command , when i type "debugfs -w /dev/sda3" ,prompt:"/dev/sda3: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem09:51
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lotuspsychjewhoareU: are you trying to recover lost data?09:52
whoareUmy entire directory be deleted09:52
EriC^whoareU: what does "sudo blkid /dev/sda3" give?09:52
EriC^do you have backups?09:52
whoareUno backup09:54
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whoareU"/dev/sda3: UUID="IkK6d8-ABjF-cvpF-RFft-5xEv-4Quw-F7HE3J" TYPE="LVM2_member" PARTUUID="60166633-2589-444a-8910-135c0e68824f" "09:54
EriC^whoareU: type 'sudo parted -s'09:54
EriC^whoareU: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'09:54
whoareUnc option is not right09:55
EriC^must have typod09:56
EriC^can you paste the error09:56
whoareU"bash: nc: command not found...09:56
whoareU"09:56
EriC^whoareU: type 'sudo parted -ls' and paste in http://paste.ubuntu.com09:58
whoareUhttps://img.vim-cn.com/47/8a573ecaec4d228609c75e93db6f0d6a5dd6d2.png10:02
whoareUthe sda3 had umounted10:02
EriC^whoareU: you're using xfs ...10:02
EriC^whoareU: try /join #xfs10:03
whoareUthanks10:03
EriC^np10:04
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uzeeHi, can anyone here help a little bit with Ubuntu desktop installation? I've setup a kickstart server to do automated installas for RHEL, Ubuntu & CentOS server editions. There is a need for a desktop automated install only for ubuntu.10:49
uzeeCan I use the same server kickstart file and just add 'ubuntu-desktop' and 'unity' packages? would that be sufficient? I know pressed is the better option which we will move on to but at this time just trying to make it simple with only kickstart10:50
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tomreynuzee: i've not recently done it, but as far as i know kickstart is still supported. and you juts need to add ubuntu-desktop (or the graphical desktop flavour of your choice), no need to list unity (unless you want unity-desktop, which is noo longer the default desktop in current ubuntu).11:21
uzeetomreyn: thanks very much, is it also a correct understanding that "desktop version doesn't support unattended installations" from http://gyk.lt/ubuntu-16-04-desktop-unattended-installation/11:23
uzeeI'm trying to figure out if i should point to a desktop version for installation or keep the server edition and only add ubuntu-desktop ?11:24
Bilbo0In man srm " -f     fast (and insecure mode): no /dev/urandom, no synchronize mode." What is synchronize mode?11:34
tomreynuzee: personally i'd prefer doing a pxe boot using the debian-installer, so using either mini.iso or the alternative server installer.11:36
tomreynuzee: i don't know what the state of kickstart support on the desktop installer is.11:37
tomreynand current LTS is 18.04.211:37
uzeetomreyn: yes it seems like there are a some unknowns in this domain. I agree and aslo wanted a pxe based approach however, there is already a pxe server used by our windows guys, and sadly I can't have another pxe server on the same network :( although I could've investigated that in a different subnet but I haven't done that so far11:38
tomreynand using the existing pxe server is not an option?11:39
uzeemy biggest concern with ubuntu kickstart, when compared with rhel/centos kickstart, is that with ubuntu kickstart I have to provide an internet based source for the url. Whereas in rhel/centos I can use the localhost so that installation does not require internet access. I don't think there is a way around it, if you know of one, I'd be delighted to know11:40
tomreyni don't know how (or whether?) pxe booting works with windows, it is probably different, but maybe there's a deployment system which can handle both.11:41
uzeeso my kickstart has this: url --url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu11:41
uzeeurl --url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu11:41
uzeethe original idea was to have a local self-contained server which hosts all the installation media files/packages, etc. I'm hoping the preseeding will allow that, but I don't know yet11:42
tomreynthat's an archive mirror where the ubuntu installer will (in a secure way) install software from11:42
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tomreynyou can host a local archive mirror, or just a proxy cache for it.11:43
uzeetomreyn: I understand but I tried giving an http path to my kickstart server and it doesn't work, then I read somewhere that it needs to be an ubuntu internet url11:43
tomreyna local file path may also work.11:43
tomreynuzee: i don't know what a "http path" or an "ubuntu insternet url" are11:44
uzeefor a local archive mirror, I'd neet to setup a proper ubuntu mirror, correct? and I don't know what is a proxy cache and how to make it work? any pointers... ? thanks much11:44
tomreynan archive mirror would be a full mirror of the ubuntu archives for the ubuntu releases you need mirrored, yes.11:45
Bilbo0In man srm " -f     fast (and insecure mode): no /dev/urandom, no synchronize mode." What is synchronize mode?11:45
tomreynuzee: a proxy cache is a server which downloads any files from the internet and passes them down to the requesting client, but then caches those files and passes them directly to the next client requesting the same file.11:46
uzeeah, ok. by the http path I mean the source of installation media, for centos for example, I have: url --url=http://myserver.domain/centos/CentOS611:47
uzeetomreyn, I'll look into the proxy cache as well as setting up a local ubuntu mirror. My main reason to avoid it was because then there's one more machine to manage and make sure is updated, etc.11:48
terabyteHey, I have the following output for startup times, any suggestions as to how i can make it quicker? it's a virtualbox with 18.04 ubuntu. https://pastebin.com/8XJ75Aqm11:48
uzeeby internet url, I meant the url parameter and value in the kickstart file11:48
tomreynuzee: https://github.com/vrillusions/ubuntu-kickstart seems to provide tested kickstart configurations (found by a web search, i have no experience with this and there is no warranty on anything)11:48
OerHeksi think srm gives no synchronised mode, as there is nothing to sync11:48
uzeetomreyn: thanks, I believe I did come across that as well, however haven't tried it, will certainly give it a shot...11:49
sohkhatomreyn, OerHeks you two are ubuntu gods mad props11:50
Bilbo0OerHeks: What do you mean? If there is only one way to synchronize or no, why is it listed in man as a toggle effect? I was thinking maybe sychronize as in working to secure delete multiple files at once?11:51
BluesKajHowdy folks11:51
Bilbo0but my interpretation doesn't really make sense with the wording of the man11:51
Bilbo0I mean why would the simple fast toggle or whatever it's called, not be able to do something faster, so I must be wrong11:52
tomreynterabyte: vboxadd.service is probably only once. if it turns out to delay the boot every time, use the apt repository from virtualbox.org instead, if it still takes long then, seek support in #vbox.11:53
terabytetomreyn: so you reckon this is down to it being installed on vbox?11:54
terabytelet me reboot and see what happens11:54
tomreynterabyte: well at least what you posted has the longest selay listed for this service, so this is probably what you'd tackle first.11:55
tomreynselay -> delay11:55
terabyteok11:55
benederesubuntu and only 1429 people ? realy? so sad11:55
lotuspsychjebenederes: do you have an ubuntu question?11:56
benederesnope,just checking IRC11:56
benederesnever use it before11:56
uzeetomreyn: so I had a quick look at the github link, but it looks like it uses a local cdrom as the insallation media :(11:57
lotuspsychje!chat | benederes11:57
ubottubenederes: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:57
uzeeWhat I'm trying to do is to point to a remote server so that installas a re not dependent on someone physically inserting a cdrom/usb and then running the installer11:57
terabyteseparately to this, I'm finding that ubuntu is really laggy graphically. any time i do anything in the UI it's slow to react. if i hover over an icon it takes a second before the highlight occurs, if i click, it will take a second or 2 to react and draw. any basic checks I should do?11:57
uzeeAlso, is there a separate irc channel for ubuntu desktop? that might also be worth checking out?11:58
lotuspsychjeterabyte: your desktop or the virtualbox?11:59
terabytelotuspsychje: ubuntu 18.04 in the virtualbox. clicking terminal icon takes 10 seconds after clicking to actually show a terminal11:59
terabytemy desktop (windows host) is super fast...11:59
tomreynuzee: there is #ubuntu-server where i assume pxe installations are best discussed.12:00
lotuspsychjeterabyte: virtualbox is always more laggy then a physical install, also doesnt fully use your graphics card12:00
terabytelotuspsychje: would vmware be any better?12:00
lotuspsychjeterabyte: i meant virtual machines in general12:01
terabytelotuspsychje: i mean i expect them to be slower, but this level of sluggishness seems excessive12:02
terabytelotuspsychje: regardless thanks for the help12:02
lotuspsychjeterabyte: ubuntu-desktop with gnome is now heavier12:02
lotuspsychjeterabyte: but you can do alot to tweak12:02
uzeetomreyn: thanks will try there as well12:02
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lotuspsychjeterabyte: i always disable unwanted startup services, install preload, clean system with bleachbit,finetune graphic settings,...12:03
terabyteok12:04
Bilbo0In man srm " -f     fast (and insecure mode): no /dev/urandom, no synchronize mode." What is synchronize mode?12:04
tomreynsync(1) - Synchronize cached writes to persistent storage12:06
tomreynBilbo0: ^12:06
Bilbo0tomreyn: I don't understand. So what is the difference with srm run "synchronized" verses "no synchronized"?12:09
tomreynBilbo0: it will make sure to write any change to disk immediately vs whenever the disk's write cache runs full.12:11
tomreynso synchronized is slower.12:11
tomreynbut eliminates the dependency on proper operation the write cache. and the possibility to loose these queued writes in case of a sudden system failure.12:13
tomreyn* proper operation OF the write cache12:13
Bilbo0tomreyn: "no sync" writes to disk immediately?12:14
tomreynthe other way around12:14
Bilbo0If sync writes to disk immediately, how would that not make it faster?12:14
OerHeksBilbo0, you choose -f .. so it skips the urandom writes, that makes it faster, and also sync, that makes it slower again12:16
OerHeksin milliseconds, not minutes12:17
OerHeksi guess the -f option makes it just as bad/secure as rm12:17
Bilbo0I tested non-f on a couple 100mb files. Nothing happened to them till final pass. If it is writing over the file the whole time, how come I can access it normally till the very end?12:18
OerHeks.. you could access files while secure deleting from commandline ??.. how did you access them?12:21
sazawalI have installed Lubuntu 18.10, and the ethernet is not working. It doesn't work either on the Ubuntu live USB. I suspect it is either hardware or driver issue. How can I troubleshoot it to know the problem?12:22
Bilbo0OerHeks: They were some anime videos I duplicated then deleted with srm. The videos played fine till the verbose terminal did its final pass12:23
m__sazawal: Cable plugged in?12:23
sazawaltomreyn: So, it didn't work on Ubuntu 16.04 live USB. The internet works on the same live USB when connected to the other laptop.12:23
OerHeksinteresting.. so they were in your cache12:23
Bilbo0I left the directory and went back closed the media player and reopened and the videos played fine till they were gone12:23
sazawalm__: yes it is. Also see my recent reply to tomreyn .12:24
Bilbo0OerHeks: But I have low swap, I should be using memory till the very end. Or high swap, which is it that makes you use swap drive the least and memory the most?12:24
lotuspsychjesazawal: is that the same box as your dsl problem?12:25
OerHeksBilbo0, you are fine, files are deleted, and if you keep accessing them from cache, while deleting,  that is odd behaviour12:26
sazawallotuspsychje: Yes, the same box, same network, same login.12:26
sazawallotuspsychje: Actually, I don't see any animation or blinking when I connect the cable.12:26
sazawalanimation in the network icon*12:27
OerHeksthey are gone after removal ended12:27
ayekatsazawal: what does `ip l` list12:27
ayekat?12:27
sazawalayekat: 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: wlp1s0b1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000     link/ether 20:10:7a:2e:3c:b4 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff12:27
Jens1112i know but i dont care anymore12:28
sazawalThe wifi is working by the way, which is a hotspot from other laptop.12:28
Bilbo0OerHeks:  which is it that makes you use swap drive the least and memory the most?12:28
ayekatsazawal: yeah, so the network card isn't recognised properly, it seems - do you see the ethernet network card in the output of `lspci`?12:28
m__Most of the time, when clients complaining this, cable is not plugged in, also I had to clean the golden parts of the plug and the socket, did that with a tooth brush-success!12:29
sazawalayekat: I guess I do not see an ethernet card. Here is the output of lspci, https://paste.linux.community/view/6e3eccb912:40
sazawalm__: I don't think this is a dust problem, because it is a newly bought clean laptop (although second hand). I mean I don't see any dust.12:42
ayekatsazawal: hmm, indeed - there appears to be no network card12:44
ayekatsazawal: is it detected with any other OS?12:44
sazawalayekat: I only tried with Ubuntu 16.04 live USB, where it didn't work. I didn't check the lspci by the way. Should I do it? I think it won't show in U 16.04 either because the ethernet was not working.12:45
ayekatlikely12:46
lotuspsychjesazawal: im bit confused, a dsl connection goes tru a dsl modem right? its usb based yours?12:46
ayekatmaybe it's just not properly connected to the motherboard12:46
sazawalayekat: So from lspci, do I have not ethernet card or there is no ethernet driver? It doesn't make sense to not have ethernet card, because there is an ethernet slot.12:47
ayekatsazawal: well, the kernel can't see any network device plugged in, so even if it had a driver, that driver couldn't do anything12:47
lotuspsychjesazawal: pastebin your dmesg perhaps, volunteers might have a look whats happening to it12:48
sazawallotuspsychje: I don't know many technicalities of ethernet, but the incoming cable to the house goes through a modem and then through a router (not wifi router) and then the ethernet cable comes to my computer.12:48
jeremy31sazawal: easy way, copy/paste URL> dmesg | nc termbin.com 999912:48
Bilbo0swappability confuses me, do I want a low number or high number for most use of RAM and least use of drive?12:52
pldiemHi, I need help, I wanted to check if bootable USB will work fine, I changed boot order, I checked USB drive it was fine, but after the restart computer stopped seeing my drive in the bootable section, so I cannot run my system, I removed additional drive and still nothing12:52
pldiemis there anything I can do?12:52
sazawaljeremy31: I don't know what is wrong but termbin command is not giving me any output links. It just ends with no output. I will paste it on pastebin now, and later solve this issue.12:53
lotuspsychjepldiem: how did you burn the usb stick?12:53
pldiemI don't remember now, there is memtest8612:54
lotuspsychjepldiem: you sure it works?12:54
pldiemyes, I run it again just now and there were some checks at the beginning and I just exited12:55
lotuspsychjepldiem: some systems you can bring up the media startup with F1212:55
pldiemlet me check12:55
Jens1112i know but i dont care anymore12:55
lotuspsychjeJens1112: can we help you?12:56
pldiemlotuspsychje: empty list12:56
Jens1112@lotuspsychje: thanks12:56
lotuspsychjepldiem: try another usb port yet?12:56
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tomreynJens1112: you wrote "i know but i dont care anymore" twice, seemingly without any context. are you looking for ubuntu support?12:57
lotuspsychjepldiem: what what about bios, does it recognize usb brand?12:57
pldiemhmm... but it is no the problem with USB12:57
Jens1112@tomreyn: that was auto-filled12:57
lotuspsychjepldiem: we are trying to find out whats the problem12:58
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tomreynJens1112: ok, please don't make automated posts to this channel. thanks.12:58
pldiemUSB works fine, but after running USB bios stopped seeing my system drive12:58
pldiemI just want to be sure we are on the same page12:58
pldiemdo you want me to check another USB port?12:59
lotuspsychjepldiem: ah its your internal harddisk it doesnt see?12:59
pldiemyes12:59
Jens1112@tomreyn: sure i did not meant to it was unintentionally12:59
tomreynJens1112: alright ;)12:59
lotuspsychjepldiem: is that an uefi system?12:59
pldiemso I cannot boot my system12:59
pldiemyes UEFI13:00
lotuspsychjepldiem: are you going to dualboot or singleboot ubuntu?13:00
pldiemsingleboot13:00
lotuspsychjepldiem: could you check if secureboot is=off and fastboot=off please?13:00
pldiemI just removed the additional drive to be sure it doesn't mess with anything13:00
tomreynpldiem: you said "I removed additional drive" but did not discuss adding this drive before, or its purpose, for what i could gather.13:01
pldiemsecureboot is off in the BIOS13:01
lotuspsychjepldiem: you sure your partitions are not several on 1 big HD?13:01
pldiemI don't see fast boot option13:01
lotuspsychjepldiem: maybe you plugged out the main harddisk, with all your partitions?13:02
pldiemthe second drive is an old HDD 5200rpm13:02
lotuspsychjekk13:02
pldiemjust for storing data13:02
tomreynpldiem: either way, what you describe makes it look like you made some (mainboard firmware) configuration change which you did not reverse, or not properly. because booting off the internal storage worked initially, and no longer works now.13:02
lotuspsychjepldiem: so however, your bios must recognize the HD right?13:02
pldiemI did no changes in BIOS13:04
pldiembut changing boot order13:04
TJ-pldiem: It may depend on *how* the firmware setup configure boot devices. Some list each device in order, others list device types in order (e.g. USB, HDD, Net) and *then* have a sub-list for the HDD type for example.13:04
pldiemunfortunately my list is empty13:05
TJ-pldiem: If the firmware is not recognising the internal HDD/SSD that suggests a physical problem OR that the system was originally booting in Legacy BIOS/CSM mode and you've disabled that mode13:05
lotuspsychjepldiem: what Os was on that second HD please?13:05
pldiemthere is none, as I wrote the second drive was just for storing purposes13:06
lotuspsychjepldiem: ok and on the first, windows?13:06
pldiemdebian13:06
tomreynthis is #ubuntu13:07
pldiembut I found no help on #debian channel13:07
pldiemand have no invitation to #linux channel13:07
lotuspsychjepldiem: but you want to install ubuntu now?13:07
TJ-pldiem: it's ##linux not #linux13:07
OerHeksfor ##linux you need to register with #freenode13:08
pldiemno, I want to get my system up and running13:08
lotuspsychjethen its #debian as suggested above13:08
pldiemI know that this is #ubuntu channel, but it is not system related issue I guess13:09
pldiemso I am looking for any suggestion13:09
pldiemit is quite important for me13:09
pldiemI work on this computer13:09
pldiemand tomorrow is a workday :/13:09
lotuspsychjepldiem: if you burn an usb stick and want to install ubuntu, we can help you13:09
OerHekslike TJ- mentioned before, likely you disabled/enabled UEFI13:10
lotuspsychje!usb | pldiem takes 15min13:10
ubottupldiem takes 15min: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:10
pldiemOerHeks: yes I did that after I noticed the issue to check if the drive will be visible in legacy mode13:11
pldiemit was13:11
pldiemI switched back13:11
pldiemand right now it is not seen in any mode13:11
pldiemOerHeks: do you think that could introduce some physical issue?13:12
lotuspsychjepldiem: make your life easy and burn an ubuntu iso :p = great community support13:14
lotuspsychjein an hour ubuntu is installed on your pc13:14
tomreynpldiem: it's possible that you accidentially loosened a wire to the other hdd, or cross wired things incorrectly when you added / removed the secondary disk. but this and fixing the firmware is really a ##hardware topic (i.e. not here). #ubuntu is about running and booting (which happens only after the firmware sorts things out) ubuntu. and you don't seem to be running ubuntu (and please don't make it look like you would, and don't intentionally13:18
tomreynmisrepresent facts, and don't request support for something else here in the future).13:18
pldiemlotuspsychje: I know that installation is quick and easy, but the problem is the data I will lose13:18
tomreynyou did not actually seek support in #debian today.13:18
pldiemI did13:19
pldiem(01:36:14 PM)13:19
lotuspsychjepldiem: burn the ubuntu iso, disable fastboot & secureboot, boot ubuntu live and rescue data13:19
tomreynthen it wa susing a differnet nikcname and isp13:19
pldiemtomreyn: "misprepresent facts"?13:20
lotuspsychjepldiem: its also a bit weird you unplug HD2 to not loose data but have no backup of HD113:21
pldiemI asked about why drive is not seen in bios boot section13:21
pldiemit kind of common case13:21
popnflossim trying to install ubuntu on my second hard drive and it keeps putting the uefi entry on my windows hard drive13:21
popnflosseven though ive set it to put the efi partition and the bootloader and everything on the ubuntu drive13:22
popnflosshow do i make the ubuntu installer leave my other hard drive alone13:22
popnflosswithout having to literally unplug it13:22
OerHekspldiem, If your bios shows no drive, it is not connected properly, or dead .. not an ubuntu issue13:22
pldiemlotuspsychje: I wrote what was the purpose of the second drive, that is why I left it in the computer, but I'm not really using it :D13:22
pldiemOerHeks: bios shows drive, but not in the boot section13:23
pldiemit is visible on the first tab13:23
tomreynpopnfloss: uefi will always need to have the efi system partition on the first drive the firmware recognizes13:23
OerHekspldiem, oke, than it is not dead, uefi setting perhaps, or AHCI/raid.. join #debian13:24
tomreynpopnfloss: but you can have multiple boot codes on the (u)efi system partition (ESP)13:24
pldiemok, thanks13:24
popnflossso then theres no point in creating an efi partition on the second hard drive then13:25
popnflosssince its not even going to use it13:25
popnflossand i can never boot into linux without having to depend on my windows drive13:25
sazawal_lotuspsychje: ayekat Here is the dmesg output, https://termbin.com/wq2513:27
popnflossalso i have had separate efi partitions for two drives before and they were both detected and bootable13:28
sazawal_ayekat: You meant that there is a hardware issue? The cable is fine because it works on the other laptop.13:28
popnflossi had to disconnect one of them and install linux on the other to prevent it from tampering with it13:28
tomreynpopnfloss: i can repeat myself, rephrasing it a little along the way: as long as you are uefi booting, the first hdd detected by the mainboard firmware will need to contain the OS boot code on an ESP. you may be able to make the firmware detect one or the other storage before another. but that's no longer a matter of ubuntu, but specific to your firmware.13:28
ayekatsazawal_: to be honest, I'm afraid I can't tell anything from that dmesg there13:29
ayekatsazawal_: but if the kernel doesn't detect the network device at all, I'd assume that it is somehow not connected properly, or just misdetected as something else13:29
ayekatsazawal_: (e.g. a USB device)13:29
sazawal_ayekat: I see.13:30
tomreynincorrect pci device detection is very rare, and unlikely. update-pciid's can help getting propoer textual output.13:31
popnflosswell i just want it set up so that they are isolated from one another13:31
tomreyn* update-pciids13:31
popnflossso if one fails the other doesnt fail as well13:31
popnflossand i dont want linux messing around with sda when i tell it not to13:31
sazawal_tomreyn: Was update-pciids for me?13:32
tomreynsazawal_: yes, sorry, i missed to indicate this13:32
lotuspsychjesazawal_: maybe its also worth checking an LTS ubuntu version13:32
tomreynsazawal_: a non-outdated kernel image may also help.13:32
lotuspsychjesazawal_: also try this; tail -f /var/log/syslog and pull in your eth cable, maybe something usefull comes out13:33
sazawal_lotuspsychje: I did, I think you missed my earlier responses. I made an Ubuntu 16.04 live USB, and when I connected the cable, there was no movement or notification in the network icon.13:33
lotuspsychjesazawal_: is it a fixxed motherboard eth port or a card?13:34
sazawal_tomreyn: Okay i just tried this and it made a snapshot, not sure what happened.13:34
sazawal_lotuspsychje: yes it is fixed, inbuilt in the laptop's motherboard.13:34
lotuspsychjesazawal_: check bios for settings yet? maybe also update bios (as its a lenovo)13:35
tomreynsazawal_: update-pciids just downloads new information form the internet, to be able to display more sutable output when you run "lspci -nn"13:36
popnflosshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/139637913:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1396379 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installer uses first EFI system partition found even when directed otherwise" [Medium,Confirmed]13:36
popnflossoh look its a bug13:36
popnflossso i was right then13:36
popnflossand its a bug that hasnt been fixed in years13:36
popnflossand still isnt fixed in 19.0413:36
popnflosslooks like i do have to unplug the other drive lol13:36
sazawal_lotuspsychje: Sorry, how do I update BIOS? Ok, I must also look if maybe the eth network is disabled in BIOS.13:36
popnflosswhat a pile of garbage ubuntu is13:36
OerHeksthat is not a valid bug, imho13:36
lotuspsychje!biosupdate | sazawal_13:36
ubottusazawal_: To see how to update your bios on Ubuntu visit the community collected methods here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate13:36
OerHeksany OS takes the 1st EFI partition on the 1st drive13:36
lotuspsychjesazawal_: you might also want to check software-centre as lenovo's might have bios firmware update there13:37
popnflossfedora never did this to me13:37
sazawal_lotuspsychje: Yes, let me check the software-center first.13:38
OerHekssure fedora takes the 1st efi partition too13:38
acgissueson a Thinkpad i had to copy my Linux .efi to the default bootmgr location because it wouldn't run any other .efi13:38
lotuspsychjesazawal_: you singleboot or dualboot?13:38
tomreynpopnfloss: please move your disappreciation of ubuntu elsewhere, this channel is just for support Q&A.13:38
sazawal_lotuspsychje: single boot.13:39
lotuspsychjesazawal_: allrighty maybe also check if you can access your admin page of modem via eth cable: http://192.168...13:40
tomreynif the link is down, this isn't going to succeed either.13:41
sazawal_lotuspsychje: Is there no software-center in lubuntu? I only see Muon Package Manager. When I go to software-sources, there is no tab of Additional Drivers either.13:42
sazawal_lotuspsychje: I am sure the admin page won't work because the laptop is not connecting to the ethernet, even after plugging in the cable.13:43
lotuspsychjesazawal_: try fwupdate -l13:43
sazawal_lotuspsychje: Okay, fwupdate -l just finished with no output.13:44
lotuspsychjesazawal_: allright, so thats a no-go from the ubuntu way13:44
sazawal_lotuspsychje: One question, if I do bios update, is it possible that the installed OS fails to boot?13:45
lotuspsychjesazawal_: normally no, but always prudent making backups13:45
lotuspsychjesazawal_: ssd firmware updates could possible influence data13:46
sazawal_lotuspsychje: I see13:46
sazawal_I am going to boot the laptop now, and check the possible network options in BIOS.13:48
lotuspsychjesazawal_: allright good luck13:48
Bilbo0Is there a way/program where I can check for duplicate files then secure delete said duplicate files without having to hunt down each and every instance?13:53
frankie_.13:57
leftyfbBilbo0: yes. What have you found and tried so far?14:02
Bilbo0leftyfb: sflint for the redundant files, srm for secure delete, but I'm at a loss as to how to combine them in a time efficient manner14:03
Bilbo0i can rename the redundent files "dele" or whatever then search for dele and move them all into a folder and then srm the folder, but that's way too slow14:04
Bilbo0especially since each has to have its own name to all go in the file14:05
leftyfbBilbo0: https://itsfoss.com/find-duplicate-files-linux/  # First result on google when searching for "ubuntu find duplicate files"14:05
Bilbo0leftyfb: and equally useless, nothing about secure delete on that page14:06
leftyfbBilbo0: in that article it suggests fdupes and an option. Combine the output of that with srm for "secure" deletion.14:06
sazawallotuspsychje: Did not find anything relevant specific thing in BIOS which is disabled. There is one thing in the BIOS information which says, "MAC address (Internal LAN): Not Applicable". Here are the screen images, https://imgur.com/a/cFWKA5014:10
EriC^Bilbo0: how man unique duplicates are there?14:10
EriC^i mean how many files are similar to eachother, as sets, set1 set2 ...?14:10
Bilbo0leftyfb: You mean  -d ?14:11
Bilbo0EriC^: Plenty, and not necessarily in sets14:11
EriC^Bilbo0: oh, cause fdupes lists all not just the 'extras'14:12
leftyfbBilbo0: fdupes <options> | xargs <srm> <srm options>14:12
EriC^aha -f omits the first file14:12
leftyfbBilbo0: fdupes -f <options> | xargs <srm> <srm options>14:12
Bilbo0So <options> = stuff like -d?14:12
leftyfbBilbo0: stuff like path. -d will prompt you to delete. You don't want that if you're using srm to delete14:13
leftyfbBilbo0: just use fdupes -f to get the list, pipe it to xarg/srm14:13
leftyfbor a for loop, either way14:14
Bilbo0leftyfb:  So ignore "<options>"?14:14
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Bilbo0I don't understand what that means14:14
leftyfbBilbo0: fdupes needs a path, you'll also want -f if you don't want to delete every duplicate including the original14:14
leftyfbBilbo0: why do you need to do this?14:15
EriC^fdupes is odd, if you do fdupes -f /dir > /file14:15
Bilbo0leftyfb: Space mostly14:15
EriC^it suddenly adds /dir/file to the list of duplicates14:15
EriC^what a weird behavior14:15
Bilbo0why?14:15
leftyfbBilbo0: why do you need to "securely" delete?14:15
Bilbo0What difference does it make?14:16
Bilbo0If someone finds out I'm a spy, they'll kill m....*argh!*14:17
EriC^Bilbo0: use this "fdupes -f /path/to/file | tee /tmp/duplicates"14:18
leftyfbBilbo0: because if you are using srm because you think it's cool and gives you some sort of benfit beyond someone physically getting access to your computer to grab your super secret files you apparently have duplicates of, then you're just creating more work for yourself with no benefit.14:19
EriC^then "xargs -a /tmp/duplicates srm"14:19
leftyfbEriC^: I already have him the answer14:19
EriC^i spoon fed him14:19
* leftyfb sigh14:19
leftyfbBilbo0: fdupes -f </path/to/duplicates/of/your/government/secrets | xargs srm14:20
EriC^fdupes has a weird behavior, i think its necessary to point out to use | tee14:20
leftyfbwhy?14:20
EriC^that's fine14:20
EriC^leftyfb: that wont work somehow14:21
EriC^actually its working, nevermind14:22
leftyfbworks fine in my testing14:22
EriC^yeah srm is so slow i thought it hung14:22
leftyfbyeah, I question the need for srm14:22
leftyfbespecially if this is an SSD. Causing more problems than it's worth14:23
EriC^hopefully he learns something from it all, either way14:23
EriC^but yeah i see your point14:23
leftyfbHell, just using -dN with fdupes and zero'ing out the rest of the drive after would provide almost as much protection14:24
leftyfbI should say, just as adequate14:24
leftyfbAnyone that really needs to do this isn't asking on IRC how to do it14:24
EriC^xD14:24
Bilbo0Well I need something a bit more fine grain than delete all but one, or I risk losing a hell of alot of read me files and such. Is there there a good gui duplicate program that can show path of duplicate too (fsflint gui doesnt show path) and if not individually choose srm, choose to move where I want with a click?14:25
leftyfb:/14:26
leftyfbactually, no, you should not lose README files14:26
leftyfbBilbo0: fdupes finds duplicate files. Not files with just the same name14:26
Bilbo0ah14:26
EriC^Bilbo0: it doesnt use the filename, i guess it does a md5 hash on them to see if they're the same14:26
leftyfbBilbo0: you should test first of course14:27
Bilbo0what does -dN do?14:27
leftyfbBilbo0: and also have backups of your secret government files14:27
leftyfbBilbo0: man fdupes14:27
EriC^Bilbo0: also if it's a bunch of dirs you need to use fdupes in recursive mode14:28
leftyfbBilbo0: there is no point and click solution to doing exactly what you want14:28
Bilbo0what IS recursive?14:28
leftyfbwow14:28
EriC^Bilbo0: it means it goes into the subdirs as well, not just the dir you initially give it14:28
Bilbo0ah thanks14:29
leftyfbBilbo0: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0596007604/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_M8rHCbRFDE5FR   might I suggest this book. It helped me get started14:29
leftyfbBilbo0: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-linux-basics14:30
leftyfbBilbo0: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/14:30
leftyfbwell, maybe not that last one. Stupid Unix :)14:30
Bilbo0Any options other than fdupe or fslint? Anything that has a gui and shows the path of the redundant files in that gui?14:30
leftyfbBilbo0: there is no point and click solution to doing exactly what you want14:30
Bilbo0Are you randomly recommending from the top of your google searches...14:30
EriC^Bilbo0: fdupes shows the path14:31
Bilbo0"Here, buy this book I just heard of a moment ago when I searched "book learn Linux" "14:31
Bilbo0But fdupes lacks in other ways14:32
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leftyfbBilbo0: how does it not do what you're looking for?14:32
EriC^Bilbo0: try "fdupes -f -r /dir | tee /tmp/duplicates" it'll give you the list of files, if you're happy with it then do "xargs -a /tmp/duplicates srm"14:33
leftyfbBilbo0: also, that book I bought about 20 years ago and helped me get started when I was just starting out. I've lent it out to a dozen people since who have all helped them get started as well.14:33
EriC^i think you have your whole evening/morning cut out though, fdupes is kinda slow cause it has to hash them, and srm is very slow too14:34
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EriC^if they are a lot i'd reconsider leftyfb 's suggestion on using srm, just a heads up :)14:36
EriC^i mean *not using14:36
Bilbo0EriC^: That command would put the duplicates in /tmp/duplicates ?14:37
EriC^yeah14:37
leftyfbEriC^: tee -a?14:37
leftyfbmight not be needed if its just a dumped output at the end14:38
EriC^yeah it dumps them all at once14:38
Bilbo0EriC^: Since some of the duplicates are in unlabeled files, I need to know the names of the files first so I keep the files in labeled folders so things don't get terribly disorganized, can I use fdupes and select which ones I move?14:39
EriC^Bilbo0: you can make a list with all files if you don't use the "-f" option14:39
Bilbo0with these pictures of fdupe, you can click select the boxes next to files you want to select from the list to asterisk them?14:39
leftyfbBilbo0: yes, with -d # you would know that if you read the man page like i told you14:40
EriC^that way it'll give you them all labels and not labels14:40
EriC^if they're not so many -d as leftyfb suggested would be nice14:41
EriC^how many files are we talking?14:41
leftyfbBilbo0: fdupes is not a UI. It is a commandline tool that you need to learn how to use14:42
lotuspsychjesazawal: hmm maybe the card is dead?14:42
EriC^Bilbo0: there's fslint, it has a gui see the link leftyfb gave you earlier14:42
EriC^https://itsfoss.com/find-duplicate-files-linux/14:42
lotuspsychjesazawal: does the yellow led of your eth port still work?14:42
leftyfbfslint wasn't good enough for him14:43
EriC^maybe you can make the list and save it to a file, then use xargs with srm if you still want srm14:43
Bilbo0my main issue with it is it doesnt show the paths of the stuff it finds14:43
Bilbo0with fslint14:43
leftyfbBilbo0: then take our suggestions14:44
niko1990hello everyone14:44
EriC^the picture seems that it does, it says "name" and directory in the other column14:44
EriC^Bilbo0: ^14:44
leftyfbBilbo0: either way, it is going to take work and effort on your part14:44
EriC^hi niko199014:44
Bilbo0So how come my fslint doesn't have directory or date information? It only has "name". How do I check which version of fslint I have?14:46
EriC^Bilbo0: type 'apt-cache policy fslint | grep -i installed' please14:48
Bilbo02.44-214:49
EriC^mine has the dir and everything14:49
EriC^2.44-214:49
Bilbo0got any idea why the discrepancy?14:50
Bilbo0what it could be?14:50
EriC^do you have a scrollbar at the bottom? maybe it got pushed way to the side?14:50
Bilbo0ah, well I accidentally restarted the search so I got to wait a bit, maybe that is it though14:52
Bilbo0there is a scroll bar on the bottom14:52
Bilbo0EriC^: If I use -r, that's delete, if I use "tee" it changes the delete to move?14:56
EriC^no -r is recursive, tee will show the list in the terminal and also write it to /tmp/duplicates for later use14:56
EriC^kinda like a T-connector you'd use in plumbing etc14:56
EriC^;)14:56
Bilbo0EriC^: And by write you mean move, not copy, right?14:59
cluelessperson_why doesn't kill work to kill processes?15:00
cluelessperson_they just keep coming back up15:00
leftyfbcluelessperson_: kill does exactly what it's meant to do15:00
cluelessperson_unifi is being difficult15:01
cluelessperson_I want to nuke this user and every process by it15:01
leftyfbcluelessperson_: what it will not do is kill new processes that start up with the same process name15:01
leftyfbcluelessperson_: sudo systemctl stop unifi15:01
cluelessperson_leftyfb: already tried that15:02
* cluelessperson_ tries again15:02
leftyfbcluelessperson_: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Also, is this ubuntu you're running unifi on or is it a cloud key or raspberry pi?15:02
EriC^Bilbo0: it just makes a list, it doesnt move/copy any files15:02
cluelessperson_well it worked now15:02
cluelessperson_leftyfb: after the recent upgrade, the mongodb has increased in size rapidly15:03
cluelessperson_suddenly 16GB15:03
cluelessperson_trying to stop prune and reconfigure15:03
Bilbo0EriC^: then I dont understand the point of "/tmp/duplicates" part of the command15:03
leftyfbcluelessperson_: and what is Unifi running on?15:03
cluelessperson_leftleg_: a debian lxc container15:04
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leftyfbcluelessperson_: then why are you asking for help in #ubuntu?15:04
cluelessperson_leftyfb: I dunno, I mistakenly came to the wrong channel. :/15:05
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temhaaHello15:13
temhaaI am using ubuntu 18.0415:13
temhaawhen I put my device. nothing happened. I mean I can not access the my data(usb)15:14
temhaaI checked fdisk command and I dont see "/dev/sdb" device15:14
lotuspsychjetemhaa: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your usb and pastebin us the output please15:15
leftyfbtemhaa: unplug the device. Run this in a terminal and watch it as you plug it back in:  dmesg -Tw15:15
EriC^Bilbo0: the point of /tmp/... is to use that file later to delete using srm15:15
temhaayou can check my logs15:16
temhaahttp://dpaste.com/25GHNPY15:16
EriC^Bilbo0: you said the labels and not labels stuff though so you want fslint i guess then write a file to use with srm15:16
EriC^ill brb15:16
leftyfbtemhaa: what error do you get when you use fdisk or gparted on the drive?15:17
temhaaleftyfb: this is dmesg output: http://dpaste.com/1ZR8VYT15:18
temhaaleftyfb: this is fdisk -l output: http://dpaste.com/1D5TK9D15:18
Bilbo0EriC^: But it doesn't move those files to that directory?15:18
leftyfbBilbo0: 2019 Mar 10 10:33:46 <EriC^>Bilbo0: try "fdupes -f -r /dir | tee /tmp/duplicates" it'll give you the list of files, if you're happy with it then do "xargs -a /tmp/duplicates srm"15:19
temhaaleftyfb: sdb drive is also missing even after plug-in usb: http://dpaste.com/1SZWSB115:20
leftyfbtemhaa: anything show in gparted?15:20
leftyfbtemhaa: there's a dropdown in the top-right15:21
temhaaleftyfb: I also used gparted but it shows only sda  drive15:21
lotuspsychjetemhaa: what brand of usb is this?15:22
temhaalotuspsychje: Sandisk15:22
temhaalotuspsychje: I am able to see my usb's brand in the log: http://dpaste.com/25GHNPY15:22
lotuspsychjetemhaa: if gparted or testdisk doesnt see it, its probably not good news15:22
lotuspsychjetemhaa: did you try different usb ports? other computers?15:23
temhaalotuspsychje: its little imposibble to try it on another computers15:24
temhaa:(15:24
temhaalotuspsychje: leftyfb should I ask also in linux channel?  I need to use my usb.15:26
Bilbo0leftyfb: Oh that inputs the list of dups to a file in tmp/duplicates?15:26
OerHeksthat usb ID 0781:5591 is a sandisk, usb3 device?15:26
temhaaOerHeks: yes15:26
Jens1112could be usb3.115:29
Jens1112lol15:30
OerHekslast resort, maybe there is a bios setting for usb speed, full' or 'high' speed15:30
OerHeksusb3 should be backwards compatible, AFAIK15:31
OerHeks( choose high)15:31
Jens1112lol15:31
temhaaOerHeks: so what should I do?15:32
lotuspsychjetemhaa: what i always try on (almost) dead media, is photorec from the package testdisk, if that or gparted doesnt see the media, its probably RIP15:32
OerHekstemhaa, check yous bios settings, and lotuspsychje +1 testdisk can give an answer, else try it on an other machine15:33
temhaalotuspsychje: leftyfb OerHeks thanks for considering me.15:34
elderekoive been struggling with an issue for a week, trying to do a clean install of ubuntu 18.10 ontop of mdraid + lvm... always get "disk lvmid/xxx not found" in grub15:36
sazawallotuspsychje: No, the led is not glowing. I guess it should glow irrespective of weather the connection is established.15:39
lotuspsychjesazawal: once the cable is in, led should work15:40
OerHekschange cable?15:40
sazawallotuspsychje: No, it is not glowing. OerHeks The cable works in other laptops.15:41
lotuspsychjesazawal: doublecheck everything from the lenovo website, there are few pointers there, biosupdate, drivers update etc15:41
lotuspsychjesazawal: your lenovo still in garantuee period?15:41
fleabeardhello friends, is ubuntu core supported in this channel? or should I bugger off somewhere else for help? :)15:41
sazawallotuspsychje: Could you check this link please, I found it on google, not sure if it is relevant. I am only trying to make it work. This laptop had been a punishment to me.15:41
sazawallotuspsychje: Here is the link, https://askubuntu.com/questions/78256/lspci-and-lshw-show-no-network-devices15:41
lotuspsychjesazawal: https://support.lenovo.com/be/nl/solutions/ht08014415:42
sazawallotuspsychje: No, I bought a used one. Although, it is not so old.15:42
lotuspsychjesazawal: think this isnt an ubuntu issue anymore15:43
sazawallotuspsychje: I guess you are right.15:43
sazawallotuspsychje: Is there any other OS, apart from linux which I can give a try just through a live USB?15:44
leftyfb!ot | sazawal15:45
ubottusazawal: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:45
ioriasazawal, if the problem is about a pci dev ,  you can try to set some kernel parameter (e.g.   pci=use_crs,realloc)15:45
fleabearddoes anyone know if ubuntu server will run on a raspberry pi b3? I have ubuntu core installed currently, but I'm not sure if I wanna learn snaps just yet and am more comfortable with apt.15:46
leftyfbfleabeard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi15:47
leftyfbfleabeard: first result on google for "raspberry pi ubuntu server"15:47
sazawalioria: Yes thanks. But first I will try to see if the problem persists in some other OS. There is a big chance that the ethernet card is dead.15:47
ioriasazawal, i see; btw; others parameters might be :  pci=noacpi    acpi=noirq     pci=acpi15:48
fleabeardthanks, but what's the difference between ARMHF & ARM64? I see they have images available for my particular version of pi.15:50
sazawalThanks, I am saving your responses, for later.15:50
fleabeardguess I'll try ARMHF first, if it doesn't work try the next :P15:58
the_actorHi guys, I just built my first LXC container. It seems like the images are JEOS. Anyone know  what the proper way of bringing up the image into a full standard headless Ubuntu Image that is supported method?16:03
OerHeksthe_actor, converting a lxc container to a regular install ?? never heard of that16:06
the_actorno16:06
the_actordoes not have to be a regular install16:06
the_actorI am trying to bring it to a base level where it mirrors a default install with default security settings and packages16:07
the_actoranselm: I am trying to deploy Ubuntu Server on my Antsle virtualization server and I dont like the images provided. I would like to start off with an LXC image that is identical to a fresh Ubuntu server install.16:09
Exterminadorhello guys. does this look okay for you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jg5pVKzQgY/ ?16:09
the_actorThere has to be somone here who has successfully set up ubuntu server in a LXC container . . . mind sharing the knowledge?16:12
lotuspsychjethe_actor: ubuntu server issues, try #ubuntu-server16:13
the_actorlotuspsychje: thanks16:13
fleabeardwould anyone know how to setup wifi on ubuntu 'classic' ARMHF? The website says ubuntu 'classic' supports the raspberry pi b3's wifi chipset out of the box, but I've no idea how to setup my wifi connection. There is no mention of command usage to initiate such a thing.16:17
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OerHekseasy to find: https://askubuntu.com/questions/775597/how-to-use-onboard-wifi-on-raspberry-pi-3-with-ubuntu-server-16-0416:19
WonnyCan I ask questions about Ubuntu VM stuff here?16:20
OerHekshi Wonny, yes, this is ubuntu support.16:21
WonnyAwesome thanks16:21
WonnyI'm using VirtualBox to run Ubuntu 16.04. I need to use sudo, but it is requesting a password for the root/seed. I tried the command 'sudo passwd root/seed' and it doesn't allow me to set a password. It asks for the password in fact.16:22
WonnyAny work arounds to getting the password for this Ubuntu VM?16:22
OerHeksnormally the 1st user created in ubuntu, has sudo priv.16:23
OerHeksand there is no password for the root account.16:24
ayekatWonny: what is 'the root/seed' there, though?16:24
ayekatI mean... what is the 'it', and what is the exact message?16:25
Wonnyayekat, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bftBtwzghJ/ at the beginning there it says seed.16:25
WonnyI tried to the command on both 'seed' and 'root'16:25
ayekatWonny: so 'seed' is your username16:25
ayekatto change your own password, you can just run `passwd` without sudo16:26
lotuspsychjeWonny: why are you needing to run virtualbox as root exactly?16:26
Wonnylotuspsychje, i'm needing to change files with root privileges16:26
lotuspsychjeWonny: what kind of files?16:27
Wonnylotuspsychje, /etc/rc.local16:27
the_actorWonni: You probably have to add your username to SUDOers, you can log in with root and set that I guess16:27
ayekatWonny: /etc/rc.local in the Ubuntu inside the VM, or on the host system?16:27
Wonnyayekat, this is what happens https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NxjNt8gzBK/16:28
Wonnyayekat, also in the ubuntu inside the VM16:28
Wonnythe_actor, how do I log into root on a VM?16:28
the_actorWonni: what does cat /etc/sudoers say?16:28
ayekatWonny: so you type your current password wrong, hence the message16:28
ayekatthe_actor: there is no need for that16:28
the_actorSorry my eyes I have been calling you Wonni16:29
ayekatWonny: in this context, it doesn't matter if Ubuntu is inside a VM or not16:29
OerHekssudo nano /etc/rc.local [enter]16:29
fleabeardOerHeks, in the part that says "wpa-ssid WIRELESSSSID", do I have to wrap my wireless ssid in quotes if it contains spaces in it's ssid? My ssid is NSA Surveillance Van, so i'm thinking it may need wrapped in quotes?16:29
WonnyOerHeks, it asks for a password when I do that16:29
OerHeksor vim, gedit, kate or an other editor16:29
OerHeksfleabeard, never heard a ssid canhave spaces16:30
OerHeksstupid it is16:30
ayekatWonny: first, and most fundamentally (so we don't misunderstand things): are you or are you not running VirtualBox as root? (from your host system)16:30
OerHeksWonny, then give that user password, if it is the 1st user created, it had sudo rights16:31
Wonnyayekat, I am not. I simply put 'virtualbox' on my host16:32
ayekatWonny: ok - next: it appears you mistype your password when sudo asks you, hence that error message16:32
the_actorDosent SUDO lock up the system after a few faied attempts?16:33
Wonnyayekat, I'm not mistyping my though. I've done it 3-4 times now16:33
ayekatthe_actor: depends how it's configured16:33
ayekatthe_actor: (or rather, how PAM is configured)16:33
the_actorwonny: hmmmmm, think you may have locked it up by mistake? I've done that before . . .16:33
ayekatWonny: well, at least sudo does not seem to be accepting it :-)16:34
WonnyOerHeks, I can't give this user password with 'passwd' because it is telling me that I have an Authentication token error16:34
ayekator rather passwd, not sudo16:34
OerHeksdon't use passwd ...  it is used to set a password16:34
the_actorWonny: keep in mind. You can run passws on a local account but if you want to run it for a diffrent account you will need root.16:35
OerHeksi gave an example how to edit that file16:35
the_actor*passwd16:35
WonnyOerHeks, are you referring to 'sudo nano /etc/rc.local' ?16:35
ayekatOerHeks: they can't use sudo if they don't know their password16:36
WonnyI can't use sudo, because it requires me to have the password16:36
ayekatOerHeks: and they tried to change it with `passwd`, but that asks for their current password, too16:36
OerHeksayekat, that would be their problem .. if that attempt failed, there is no new password set16:37
fleabeardOerHeks, just to be clear here, you've never heard of a wireless ssid having spaces in its name before and believe it is stupid, in a Yoda way of speaking?16:37
the_actorMy suggestions would be. 1 Figure out if you locked the system with incorrect password. 2. Check that you user is listed in the sudoers file.16:37
WonnyOerHeks, how do I set a password? I used 'passwd' and that requires me to have a password.16:37
the_actorno16:37
ayekatthe_actor: no need to specify the user in the sudoers file - if they are part of the `sudo` or `adm` group, they should have the sudo rights16:38
OerHeksfleabeard, ssid with spaces, that is wrong .. i wonder how that router accepts that.16:38
ayekat(unless they have previously modified sudoers, that is)16:38
ayekats/adm/admin/ actually16:38
OerHeksWonny, use the password you have set during install?16:38
WonnyOerHeks, it didn't require me to have a password during the install16:39
OerHeksWonny, if it does not work, start over again with a fresh ubuntu vm16:39
OerHeksyes it does16:39
the_actorWonny: if you want to do anything right now you have to have proivilages. So you either have to boot in "single user mode" and get a octothorpe prompt "#" and reset passwords . . .  or you have to log in as root and set things straight.16:39
ayekatWonny: sure, it should have asked you during the installation, when you declared the username and machinename and whatnot16:39
lotuspsychjeWonny: an ubuntu setup without a username and password? thats new16:39
Wonnymaybe I missed it16:39
WonnyI'll reinstall16:39
ayekatugh16:40
OerHeksif you used a ready-vm from vmware/vbox, then you know the password too, as you need to login16:40
lotuspsychjeWonny: you cant miss it, or else you cant go the to next phase16:40
Exterminadorstupid question of the day: using `top -p <pid>`, which column says the actual ram usage of the proccess? RES or SHR?16:41
fleabeardwould anyone know how to setup wifi on ubuntu 'classic' ARMHF? The website says ubuntu 'classic' supports the raspberry pi b3's wifi chipset out of the box, but I've no idea how to setup my wifi connection. There is no mention of command usage to initiate such a thing. Tried the solutions here>https://askubuntu.com/questions/775597/how-to-use-onboard-wifi-on-raspberry-pi-3-with-ubuntu-server-16-04 but the don't work as I'm on 18.04.16:43
lotuspsychje!arm | fleabeard16:45
ubottufleabeard: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.16:45
fleabeardthanks lotuspsychje16:45
WonnyGuys I didn't have to establish a password anywhere. I used a SEEDVM to create the Ubunutu VM16:46
ayekatWonny: this thing? http://www.cis.syr.edu/~wedu/seed/lab_env.html16:46
Wonnyayekat, yeah something like that16:47
anselmExterminador: https://askubuntu.com/questions/176001/what-do-virt-res-and-shr-mean-in-the-top-command16:47
lotuspsychjeWonny: you should mention things like that, when you ask a question16:47
ayekatWonny: "something like that" - what instructions did you follow when installing Ubuntu?16:47
Wonnyayekat, http://www.cis.syr.edu/~wedu/seed/Labs_16.04/Documents/SEEDVM_VirtualBoxManual.pdf16:48
WonnyThese were the instructions16:48
ayekatyeah, well, then the PDF gives you the usernames and passwords for both the `seed` user and the `root` user16:48
Wonnyayekat, wth. where?16:48
ayekatWonny: page 1, section 3, "Ubuntu user accounts"16:49
anselm3 Ubuntu User Accounts16:49
WonnyI'm not seeing this16:50
WonnyOn the pdf I linked?16:50
Wonnyayekat, i see it now... Thanks!16:50
ayekatWonny: ah wait, no, on the PDF linked from the page I linked above16:51
ayekatlemme check16:51
Wonnyhttp://www.cis.syr.edu/~wedu/seed/Documentation/Ubuntu16_04_VM/Ubuntu16_04_VM_Manual.pdf16:51
WonnyIt's on here16:51
WonnyI'm mildly annoyed. This was not linked in my assignment.16:51
Wonnyayekat, thank you so much for your assistance16:53
ayekat*incoherent grumbling against university intro classes to linux systems*16:53
plongshotI need a way to output all installed packages from the command line (16.04 LTS) but exclude system level packages. I only need the applications that are user level (the program names).16:54
plongshotI'm seeing information on google about generating a list of all packages but not for what I need16:55
ayekat... not sure whether there is a clear distinction between "system level" and "user level" packages16:55
ayekatas far as the package manager is concerned, they're all just the same: packages16:56
lotuspsychjeplongshot: how about you share us, whats your end goal with this?16:56
plongshotI guess there's only about a dozen on my launcher. I could write them down on a peice of paper since they are the most important that I use all the time16:56
OerHeksaptitude search '!~M ~i' will list the packages that were not installed automatically16:57
ayekatthe applications in your launcher are there because the software provides a .desktop file (typically in /usr/share/applications)16:57
OerHekszgrep 'Commandline: apt' /var/log/apt/history.log /var/log/apt/history.log.*.gz16:57
plongshotDoesn't the software center have an option that lists only the user level applications?  Where does it get it's input from? Causse it would be nicer to cat the text into a file than write it all down by hand.17:00
plongshotYeah, if you go into software center and click the "installed" button it does real nice about providing a list of user level applications on the system but that's not the same as pushing a button and getting a text file output.17:01
OerHeksno, there is no option like that, nor in synaptic17:01
ayekatplongshot: as asked before, what's the goal?17:03
OerHeksaptitude search '!~M ~i' > text.txt17:03
plongshotderf-: Do you mean as far as a command line soln goes? Because I was just in software center on my 16.04 machine. I was observing the list. It's real clean and just right. Just not desireable to write so much out by hand.17:03
OerHeksbut these lists are hardly usefull, you need metapackages17:03
plongshotayekat: everyoine: I am about to perform a distribution upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04. The update-manager application has presented me with what seems very, very shocking information (dozens of things gonna be discarded). Now I looked at what the upgrade will discard and what is "Not Supported" and it's mostly system level stuff -libs and stuff.  But I have some concernt that I should know what programs I have installed on my machine17:06
plongshotso that if I lose anything I can identify the problem and re install it.17:06
ayekatalright, that sounds reasonable17:07
plongshotderf-: sorry - wrong name17:07
OerHeksplongshot, did you add PPA's?17:08
plongshotI have the most important stuff on my launcher and it's small enough data to write by hand but may not be sufficient?17:08
plongshotOerHeks: I have17:08
plongshotSome problems in that area too17:09
OerHeksplongshot, ah, those will give a warning that they will be disabled, sounds normal to me17:09
plongshotsome repo entries error out now17:09
plongshotok17:09
plongshotI'm really worried about getting back a tossed salad of a system after I push the button17:09
plongshotYou should see the stuff that upgrade application is telling me about my packages17:10
OerHekscheck out launchpad if those give versions for 18.0417:10
plongshot:)17:10
qwebirc35575Hi, I installed Ubuntu via uefi, and the installer overwrote *every* efi boot files it could find on all my hard drives, even though I formatted only one hard drive and selecting the right hard drive for boot loader installation. Is this a known issue?17:20
OerHeksUEFI writes to the efi partition on the 1st hdd, it adds, does not delete all instances17:22
qwebirc35575@OerHeks every boot entry in my uefi's boot manager was called "ubuntu" after the installation. For every hard drive there is.17:26
lotuspsychjeqwebirc35575: are you singlebooting ubuntu or dualboot?17:27
EriC^qwebirc35575: can you type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link17:27
EriC^qwebirc35575: also 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999' and 'sudo ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999'17:28
qwebirc35575@lotuspsychje I was installing Ubuntu on an external drive for some tests.17:29
qwebirc35575@EriC^ https://wille.io/parted.txt17:31
qwebirc35575@EriC^ https://wille.io/efibootmgr.txt17:33
qwebirc35575@EriC^ https://wille.io/lslr.txt17:34
EriC^qwebirc35575: the windows one is still there, but yeah it's used too disks17:34
EriC^qwebirc35575: let17:34
qwebirc35575@EriC^ Yes, weird, because my uefi doesn't see it !17:34
EriC^let's see which, try 'sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999'17:35
qwebirc35575@EriC^ https://wille.io/blkid.txt17:36
EriC^it also added it in the fat32 in Samsung SSD 960 PRO 512GB17:36
EriC^qwebirc35575: let's see if the files are in tact.. sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt17:37
EriC^qwebirc35575: then ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 999917:37
qwebirc35575@EriC^ The microsoft files are still there, but the bootx64.efi was overwritten (Windows still boots, but via Ubuntu's bootloader)17:38
EriC^odd it seems it's actually using Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1TB as its efi right now17:38
EriC^qwebirc35575: microsoft also uses efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi to boot17:39
qwebirc35575@EriC^ And because I'm paranoid af I was tripple-checking what I did. I really selected the USB device as the boot loader installation device :/17:39
EriC^qwebirc35575: i installed 18.04.2 lately, i noticed the same thing, it overwrote my efi/Boot/bootx64.efi and added a fwx64.efi or so17:39
EriC^fwupx64.efi17:40
EriC^sorry fbx64.efi17:40
EriC^qwebirc35575: i think it's a bug17:40
qwebirc35575@EriC^ UEFI always boots from <device>/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx86.efi - doesn't matter which OS17:41
EriC^qwebirc35575: i think they are trying to do that cause some BIOS are so picky about what it loads, and so they are trying to use the default efi location at efi/boot/bootx64.efi, which isnt cool of them17:41
qwebirc35575@EriC^ I think too, do you think this bug is something to report to Ubuntu?17:42
EriC^yeah report it17:42
EriC^they should put some option in the installer to choose whether to overwrite default locations used by other os or  not17:43
qwebirc35575@EriC^ Any specific site to report this to? [I think so, too. This "I overwrite everything I want" is toxic Microsoft mentality, imo]17:43
EriC^hmm i'm not sure, maybe put a bug report to ubiquity17:44
EriC^i think it might be an ubiquity thing cause grub-install gets installed by it, i think it's using grub-install with the --removable flag17:45
EriC^!bugs17:45
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.17:45
EriC^ubuntu-bug ubiquity17:45
EriC^(--removable flag causes grub to put the stuff in efi/boot/bootx64.efi as well)17:46
qwebirc35575@EriC^ thank you for the assistance17:46
EriC^qwebirc35575: no problem17:46
the_actorGuys, am I doing something wrong? I am trying to talk with the guys over at #ubuntu-server and I see people joining and leaving, but nobody is talking.17:53
lotuspsychjethe_actor: its sunday, not everyone is awake today17:53
lotuspsychjethe_actor: best way to get your issue solved is re-ask once in a while with all details and patient17:54
the_actorlotuspsychje: It was like that the last couple of times I connected. Almost nobody is chatting, or im not seeing anything.17:56
sl4ckhi all. Does anyone knows any tool to download videos from vimeo, like :youtube-dl"?17:56
the_actorlotuspsychje: Is it just a slowly progressing channel?17:57
lotuspsychjethe_actor: it can be crowdy at certain times, mostly during the week17:58
EriC^the_actor: try /join #ubuntu-offtopic18:01
qwebirc35575@EriC^ Seems like a bug report is always tied to a package. Do you know which package is the ubuntu installer?18:03
ajayHi everyone18:03
OerHeksqwebirc35575, EriC^ said: ubiquity18:11
qwebirc35575@OerHeks ah right, thanks18:16
pahi18:21
pasilly question18:21
paonce i download the source packages for a package (.dsc. orig.tar.gz, orig.tar.gz.asc, debian.tar.xz)18:21
pahow do i build the package ? is there an automatic tool?18:21
cow0w_518:22
the_actorOk lets say your startnig with JEOS, is there an apt-get or simmilar sequence that can pull you to a bease 18.4 server?18:26
the_actor*base 18.4 server18:26
OerHekspa, see !build factoid to setup the build environment, as a start18:27
OerHeks!build18:27
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)18:27
leftyfbthe_actor: no. Install 18.04.18:27
the_actorI'm starting on 18.04 JEOS LXC image18:28
the_actorI want to build it to a full system18:28
leftyfbthe_actor: IF you want support here, then install Ubuntu 18.04 from one of the official Ubuntu repositories.18:28
the_actorWho said I am not?18:29
OerHeksthe menu you see when installing server, is tasksel > sudo tasksel https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel18:29
leftyfb"the_actor> I'm starting on 18.04 JEOS LXC image"18:29
the_actorthe entire purpose of building the LXC image from scratch is to stay with official software.18:29
leftyfbthe_actor: then you'll need to seek support elsewhere. We can only support official installs of Ubuntu here.18:30
the_actorCorrect, if you consult Canonical's website there are instructions on how to do this.18:30
the_actorIf it were not supported it would be silly to have official documentation . . .18:31
leftyfbthe_actor: got a link to those instructions?18:31
the_actorI am not here to mesure dicks18:32
the_actoranyone here have any experience getting Ubuntu Server 18.4 LTS in LXC18:32
leftyfbthe_actor: ok, good luck. Also, no need for the language/hostility.18:32
leftyfbthe_actor: lxc launch ubuntu:18.04 <name>18:32
qwebirc35575omg..18:33
leftyfb^ that is how to install Ubuntu 18.04 in an lxd container18:33
the_actorleftyfb: you are correct I apologise I thought you were attacking me, I should have behaved better than that.18:33
OerHekslxc-templates18:33
the_actorI know how to do that, I am trying to pull in the full system as if it were installed by the installer. All official packages, all default security settings . . .18:35
leftyfbthe_actor: lxc images of ubuntu are just a cloud image. They are the "full" ubuntu server image. JEOS hasn't been supported in years and was meant for other hypervisors, not lxc/lxd.18:36
leftyfbthe_actor: to clarify more, lxc images install the exact same packages as ubuntu server on bare metal.18:37
the_actorleftyfb: Then why is the container image of 18.4 so empty it does not even have sudo installed18:37
leftyfbthe_actor: yes it does18:38
the_actorI just attached to my LXC container and it drops me to an octothorpe prompt18:38
leftyfbok?18:38
the_actorthere is no sudo, nothing many tools are missing18:39
leftyfbthe_actor: Being attached logs you in as root by default18:39
the_actorwhy are all the system tools missing?18:39
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leftyfbwhat system tools?18:39
the_actorifconfig is missing18:40
leftyfbthe_actor: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/07/07/if-youre-still-using-ifconfig-youre-living-in-the-past18:40
nvwahi18:40
nvwai am new one here18:40
the_actorYou mean I need to upgrade myself?18:40
OerHeksnetworking and the bridge is set in lxd or during install lxc, not on the guest18:40
leftyfbthe_actor: Ubuntu 18.04 uses netplan.io by default. ifupdown is installable but not installed by default. The is regardless of lxc or bare metal install.18:41
leftyfbthe_actor: Installing ifupdown over netplan is not considered an upgrade. But sure, if you want to install packages that are not installed by default in the latest version of ubuntu, you'll need to install them yourself.18:41
OerHeksthe_actor, i think you want a KVM image of ubuntu server, not lxc18:41
leftyfbOerHeks: that will make no difference18:42
leftyfbOerHeks: Again, both the bare metal install and lxc containers are the EXACT same install (minus grub/kernel)18:42
leftyfbthe_actor: your issue is not understanding the default packages in the latest versions of ubuntu. lxc is not the issue here.18:43
the_actorI would like to use LXC because I have an EdgeLinux server I want to deploy on and LXC seems more efficient. But strangely on the LXC images provided, tools such as ifconfig were there, I just dont like how they mixed up a bunch of unofficial packages . . .18:43
the_actorIf I have to go with KVM I will.18:44
leftyfbthe_actor: I guess you don't understand English then?18:44
leftyfbthe_actor: the lxc images ARE THE EXACT SAME INSTALLS AS BARE METAL18:45
leftyfbthe_actor: what part of this aren't you understanding?18:45
the_actorleftyfb: I see, so where can I learn how to build up the packages to and in the same config as in a traditional default install?18:46
leftyfbthe_actor: lxc launch ubuntu:18.04 <name>18:46
leftyfb^^^^ THAT will give you a "traditional default install" of ubuntu 18.04 server18:46
leftyfbthe_actor: Ubuntu 18.04 DOES NOT install ifupdown(ifconfig) by default. Go install it yourself if you refuse to learn how to manage netplan which is not the default in ALL versions of ubuntu.18:47
OerHekshttps://netplan.io/examples18:48
OerHeksit is pretty easy18:48
the_actorCalm down, not everyone has all the information you have in your head . . . No need to get mad at people trying to learn.18:49
leftyfbthe_actor: I explained it all to you several times in multiple wordings18:50
the_actorSo it is impossible to change the IP from inside an LXE conatainer?18:50
leftyfbthe_actor: yes, using netplan18:50
the_actorok I will read about netplan18:51
the_actorleftyfb: I'm sorry your angry that I am not learning fast enough. I am trying.18:52
mnathaniWhat can I install on Ubuntu 18.10 to enable /etc/network/interfaces?18:52
* leftyfb sigh18:52
leftyfbmnathani: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1031709/ubuntu-18-04-switch-back-to-etc-network-interfaces18:53
leftyfbmnathani: or you could learn the new way of managing your networking with netplan.io18:53
mnathaniI have two 18.10 boxes, one of them works with both netplan and network/interfaces, the other only netplan18:55
mnathaninot sure what I did differently in the first box18:55
leftyfbmnathani: you should not be using both to manage networking18:55
BlueVividMonkeyhey there. I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside an existing Windows 10 partition, but I want to encrypt Ubuntu's partition with LUKS and the installer doesn't let me unless I erase the whole disk.18:55
BlueVividMonkeyI found a guide on askubuntu dot com but it requires me to create a boot partition, and GParted is already showing a boot partition created by Windows...18:56
leftyfbBlueVividMonkey: you cannot use Windows boot partition so leave it alone.18:56
leftyfbBlueVividMonkey: also, Windows doesn't have a "boot" partition. You might be referring to the EFI partition.18:57
BlueVividMonkeyleftyfb: right, so I absolutely need to create a 1GB partition that will be used as /boot18:57
BlueVividMonkeyyes, I'm referring to the EFI partition that has the "boot" flag (as shown on GParted)18:57
leftyfbBlueVividMonkey: "absolutely need", no. In real-world implementations and if you don't hate yourself, yes18:58
BlueVividMonkeyhehe fair enough18:58
mnathaniis netplan sensitive to the right use of spaces and tabs?18:58
leftyfbmnathani: yes, it's yaml18:59
BlueVividMonkeyleftyfb: all guides in the universe create the boot partition as ext2 or ext3. any reason I can't go for ext4?18:59
leftyfbBlueVividMonkey: ext2 is pretty dumb. ext3/4 doesn't really matter, though ext4 is the actively developed filesystem these days19:00
hggdhand ext4 has journaling, which is lacking on ext319:01
BlueVividMonkeyleftyfb: great, gonna format it as ext419:02
leftyfbhggdh: ext3 and 4 both have journaling. ext2 is what lacks journaling. Hence my original comment about ext219:02
hggdhleftyfb: heh. Again I am wrong. Thank you for the correcting19:02
dsuchHello, having migrated from Ubuntu 14.04 to 18.04 I noticed that Python is no longer compiled with flag --with-fpectl which results in a regression exactly as explained here https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/8415#issuecomment-269103493 - can someone please suggest where I can submit this issue to people building Python packages for Ubuntu? Thanks.19:03
BlueVividMonkeymy colleague tells me that I shouldn't create a swap partition during installation and that I can create a swap file later, what would be the gain on doing that?19:03
baakohi guys, i am using thinkpad P52s. having some issues with the touchscreen. DOes not worrk as it should espcially when it comes to scrolling down19:03
leftyfbBlueVividMonkey: if you have over 16G of memory, don't bother with swap19:03
mnathanihow do I know when to use a space / tab? It does not seem to be compatible with my vim config19:04
BlueVividMonkeyI got 16GB on this laptop19:04
leftyfbmnathani: pick one and stick with it for the entire file. Mixing tabs and spaces doesn't work19:04
leftyfbBlueVividMonkey: then don't bother with swap19:04
BlueVividMonkeyDiskSpace webpage on help.ubuntu.com suggests the same size as RAM19:04
BlueVividMonkeyguess someone has to update that19:04
thimsluggaswap is mostly personal preference these days19:05
CarlFKleftyfb: I've pondered the ram/swap thing.  haven't apps grown to expect more ram, thus you may want swap if you are doing "similar things" to 10 years ago?19:05
OerHeksdepends if you want to hybernate/sleep, swap19:05
CarlFKnature abhors a vacuum.  my browser has 100's of tabs open.  maybe I can do this because I have swap.19:06
thimsluggayou also don't need a partition for swap, you can use a swap file19:07
leftyfbCarlFK: I have 40 tabs open and I'm only using 5G out of 16 with no swap19:08
leftyfbbtw, if you have 100's of tabs open, you're doing it wrong19:08
technobiHello All, how do I permanently change console (tty) font to something else permanently. Changing it in /etc/default/console-setup to FONT='hack-16x32.psfu.gz' doesn't work even I have the font installed in /usr/share/consolefonts. Thanks in advance19:21
leftyfbtechnobi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup19:21
technobileftyfb: Thank You I know about that. But my custom font isn't listed there...19:22
leftyfbtechnobi: ok, then the custom font isn't installed properly or supported19:22
technobileftyfb: Sad story.19:23
technobileftyfb: Thank You19:23
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plongshotSo I just did a disttribution upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.  Everythign seems to be there that I had before and working so far.  One thing though is the scroll behavior with this laptop, when you drag  your fingers on the keypad, is upside down.  So when I drag down the scroll goes up (bottom to top) and when I drag up the scroll goes down (top to bottom).  This is opposite / upside down from what I'm used to.  Has anyone seen this19:26
plongshotbefore?19:26
leftyfbplongshot: look in the "mouse and touchpad" settings?19:27
plongshotok19:28
vimarHi19:31
plongshotleftyfb: Found it.  It's something called "natural scrolling" and it's on by default in the touchpas settings.19:32
plongshotthanks19:32
EliteGodnatural scrolling isn't very natural then xD19:33
antonio__any update about the project sputnik?19:33
leftyfbantonio__: that's a Dell project. https://blog.ubuntu.com/tag/project-sputnik19:38
CarlFKleftyfb: open tabs are like bookmarks, only I don't have to do "add" - I just don't close them.  so easy :p19:41
BlueVividMonkeythanks leftyfb for the help. gonna reboot the pc and pray that everything went alright. will come back here to bother you in case it failed. cheers to everyone.19:41
CarlFKI'll have to admit it has its costs.  for now I don't mind.19:41
the_actorleftyfb: Whay command extracts the LXC and exports an image?19:55
the_actorleftyfb: I am doing as you suggested19:56
leftyfbthe_actor: huh?19:56
scubasteveHey everyone19:57
the_actorleftyfB: I just ran the command to create a Ubuntu 18.4 base image, I need an image of it to upload to my server, what is the method to do this?19:57
leftyfbthe_actor: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxd.html.en#lxd-first-container19:58
scubasteveI just did an 18.04 server install on a 128GB SSD and used LVM (full disk) during the installer19:58
scubasteveeverything is working fine but now I'm noticing that my / drive is only 4GB total in size19:58
scubastevewhat went wrong here? Any way to correct?19:58
leftyfbscubasteve: you selected something wrong during the install.19:58
scubasteveleftyfb: Am I able to extend the volume using LVM?20:00
leftyfbscubasteve: yes, that is what it's for20:00
scubasteveleftyfb: So I'll need to do that from a live environment I assume. You have any good documentation for that on hand? If not I'm happy to Google20:02
scubasteveleftyfp: look that that, I already figured it out. Apologies, I'm new to LVM20:04
scubastevethank you for your help20:04
plongshotI do have a single sing on account (because I'm prompted to configure with it in the setup process).  I'm able to log in to my account online at: https://login.ubuntu.com  I'm entering the same creds I use online in the feilds of the setup utility and it tells me "Error connecting to Ubuntu Single Sign-On server. Something went wrong, please try again.".20:08
plongshotWhat do I do? I was trying to get set up for livepatch20:08
plongshotIs there an easier way to do this?20:09
CookieMI followed the video on https://www.ubuntu.com/livepatch . Worked from the start20:15
plongshotCookieM: Thx. I'll take a look20:25
tafelcomputerHallo evry1, suddenly i sow a file named "userkey.psw" on my ubuntu desktop... is this a file related with googledrive? Thnx 4 answering...20:28
leftyfbtafelcomputer: that is typically the filename given when trying to reset Windows passwords20:33
mallucan someone please tell me how to start cron daemon with option -s in ubuntu 12 -16?20:34
tafelcomputer<leftyfb> I never tryed 2 reset psw or anything others... I just 2day sow that it stand on my desktop :S20:36
keartHola?20:39
leftyfb!es | keart20:39
ubottukeart: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:39
keartEsto es para desarrolladores de linux? o para que es?20:41
leftyfb!es | keart20:42
szymon_ghi20:43
SysifossHello I'm using 18.04, when my computer boots and shuts down a screen with white text and some green or red text on the left hand side flashes by. Its too quick for me to read or get a picture of but is there a way to stop this from happening?20:46
jeremy31Sysifoss: what does this return from terminal> cat /proc/cmdline20:52
soundwaveHi all. My question: I cant seem to troubleshoot a proplem with a live mkusb persistent usb in UEFI mode. Indeed, my PC only boots from the ISO partition, and not with the UEFI boot partition.20:55
zhxkhello, whats tree,new bee, mean in chinese?20:56
tomreynzhxk: this does not seem to be an ubuntu support question?20:57
zhxkwhich chanel to ask?20:58
tomreynone where english <-> chinese translations ar eon topic, i guess. not here.20:58
zhxkthank you20:59
tomreynsoundwave: how is this system booting? UEFI or (legacy) BIOS mode? can you show partition table and ESP content?21:00
soundwavetomreyn: It's boot in UEFI mode, but from the ISO partition, not the UEFI partition with persistence setting.21:01
soundwavetomreyn: My bios says signature failure when I boot from the UEFI partition with the persistence setting of the grub, thus falling back to the Default setting in the ISO partition21:04
tomreynwhat is an UEFI partition?21:06
soundwavetomreyn: a boot partition in UEFI mode.21:07
tomreyndo you mean efi system partition?21:08
soundwavetomreyn: Yes indeed21:08
tomreynso it looks like your system actually does bios booting on the usb then. maybe it is unable to uefi boot off it.21:10
soundwavetomreyn: it does boot in EFI mode, but from the ISO partition, thus using the default grub settings in the ISO. My PC refuses to boot from the EFI partition with the grub that has persistences settings.21:12
soundwavetomreyn: I have 2 efi partition, one with grub only, and an other with the ubuntu ISO.21:12
tomreyni see. i don't think this is going to work. uefi firmware will always boot off the first one it finds.21:13
leftyfbsoundwave: the point of EFI is you can configure it to boot from multiple choices. Not by creating separate EFI partitions.21:14
soundwavetomreyn: leftyfb: The Live USB was created with mkusb, and it boot from the EFI partition on my older PC. I think that in order to make a persistent live USB, mkusb must create it's own poot partition21:16
soundwavetomreyn: leftyfb: thus, I think that the problem lies in the way mkusb makes the EFI partition to enable persistence, since the ISO does not have a grub with persistence settings.21:20
Sysifossjeremy31: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.18.0-15-generic root=UUID=ffe7f145-4e6b-44da-a9fb-aa2150d74393 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=121:21
tomreyni'm not too familiar with mkusb. that''s why i asked you to provide the partition tbale and contents of the ESP. this didn't happen, for me, it's dinner time now.21:22
jeremy31Sysifoss: That should place the plymouth splash screen up during shutdown, hiding that21:23
egon__hello21:25
egon__how can i swich of the secureboot by asus viabook E203M21:25
egon__smone can give an advice?  i want to intsall Ubutu21:25
leftyfbegon__: consult the documentation/support for your hardware or contact Asus.21:25
leftyfbegon__: it's typically in your BIOS21:26
soundwavetomreyn : partition1 - usbdata; partition2 - biosboot; partition3 - efisystem; partition4 - ubuntuiso & efisystem; partition5 - casper-rw;21:26
leftyfbegon__: or you might have to go through Windows to get to the BIOS-like settings21:26
egon__in the bios settings i can get found secureboot21:27
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bodomHi there! How do i stop the kernel from spamming messages into the console?21:30
leftyfbbodom: https://superuser.com/a/79369221:31
jeremy31egon__: Ubuntu will install with Secure Boot enabled, you might need Secure Boot disabled if you need Nvidia graphics driver21:31
bodomleftyfb: i've already tried it, it didn't work21:32
leftyfbbodom: it does work. Do it correctly this time.21:33
bodomwhat's the correct way then?21:34
leftyfbfollow the instructions I posted21:34
bodomlol21:35
leftyfbbodom: what's the output of this: sysctl kernel.printk21:36
bodomleftyfb: it's 2 4 1 7, of cours,e but still getting spam21:37
leftyfbbodom: what version of ubuntu? What type of hardware is it installed on?21:38
bodomleftyfb: Ubuntu 18.10, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU21:39
leftyfbbodom: what are the messages that are showing?21:39
bodomleftyfb: i've not stopped it by setting 0 4 1 7… seems a bit drastic too. Any way to just squelch a single message instead of all of them? "do_IRQ: 3.33 No irq handler for vector"21:41
CyberGhost78anyone here21:42
CyberGhost78i'm just trying to find a solution to a problem and no one in the ubuntu mate forum seems to know the answer21:43
CyberGhost78and no one in ubuntu mate channel is answering21:43
leftyfbbodom: if you read the link I posted, you would see that setting CUR to 2, critical, alert and emergency messages still appear. That should tell you you might want to address whatever they are saying. Regardless, knowing that, it should be pretty easy for you to work out how to set it to no( only emergency) messages show up21:43
WonnyCan someone help me ping a domain on a virtual machine that is emulating ubuntu? I have a network restriction of NatNetwork and can't seem to figure out how to ping www.google.com or another virtual machine.21:44
bodomleftyfb: nevermind21:46
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Sysifossjeremy31: im not sure I know what you mean I should do22:11
jeremy31Sysifoss: you have the correct setting so that those messages should be hidden, using SSD?22:13
Sysifossjeremy31: gotcha, thats weird. I am not, just a standard 1TB harddrive22:21
jeremy31Sysifoss: If everything works correctly, those messages are safe to ignore22:22
Sysifossyeah everything seems to work fine. how odd. thanks for the help22:24
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plongshotDoes anyone know if there's a way to relocat the activities button in the upper left corner of 18.04 desktop? It kinda bother's me at the top instead of the bottom like that.22:30
plongshotLower right corner would be ideal.  I've been looking in gnome tweak tool for a while now and not finding anything like that.  Not sure where to look in the regular system settings either.22:31
baakohi guys am running "ssh baako@myserverip" issue is that I have a few ssh keys omn my mahcine how do I specfic which private key to use?22:42
tomreynbaako: -i22:43
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gislavedI'm unable to see why my preseed finish script doesn't handle a file... not even in the logs... ideas ?22:43
baakotomreyn: dont get it22:44
baakowhats the example of the full command?22:44
tomreynbaako: do you know what man pages are?22:44
baako"ssh baako@myserverip -i"22:45
baakodid do anything tomreyn22:46
tomreyn!man | baako22:47
ubottubaako: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/22:47
tomreynthere's also an online version of the man pages. this one is available at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man1/ssh.1.html22:47
tomreynlook for -i there22:47
baakotomreyn: thanks22:49
WoCadding selinux=0 apparmor=0 to the kernel boot params is enough to disable them both, right ?22:55
WoCor would i have to do something else too ?22:57
tomreynaccording to https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.18/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html this should be correct.22:59
qwebirc82649hello,im getting this strange error message while trying to install minitube..23:00
qwebirc82649it says ''apt transaction returned result exit-failed''23:00
OerHeksqwerbirc where do you get minitube?23:01
qwebirc82649ubuntu apps23:02
Bashing-omqwebirc82649: universe repo enabled ?23:02
qwebirc82649where can i do that?23:02
Bashing-om!info minitube bionic | qwebirc8264923:02
ubottuqwebirc82649: minitube (source: minitube): Native YouTube client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.2-2 (bionic), package size 856 kB, installed size 2873 kB23:02
qwebirc82649it goes up to like 100% and gives me this message23:03
qwebirc82649and i be just like ''dear ubuntu 17.04 laptop,i know youre old but please just let me listen  to crystal clear sound while shitting my pants cuz im listening to scp again''23:04
Bashing-omqwebirc82649: Pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' We see that the package manager is in a consistent state.23:04
Bashing-om!17.04 | qwebirc8264923:04
ubottuqwebirc82649: Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2018. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-January/000228.html23:04
OerHeksi hope that was a typo, 17.04?23:05
qwebirc82649nope23:05
OerHeksanyway, that minitube i removed, not working at all the api they use is limited to 100.000 views/month or so23:05
qwebirc82649my alter ego is used to work with 17.04...changing the os would confuse the hecc out of them23:07
OerHeksso you don; t have to upgrade to a supported ubuntu version .. or you better do anyway23:07
qwebirc82649what should i do now?23:07
qwebirc82649remus and i just want to listen to scps..23:08
qwebirc82649and if i try to update the os it gives me the same message...23:09
WoCtomreyn, ty, appreciated23:11
Bashing-om!upgrade | qwebirc8264923:11
ubottuqwebirc82649: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade23:11
cortexmanI am booting Ubuntu off of an SSD. My laptop has an additional SSD slot and I would like to install Ubuntu onto it as well. However, my laptop does not recognize my thumb drive as bootable. What's a good way to install Ubuntu to the additional mounted SSD while logged into Ubuntu and from the command line?23:15
EliteGodi don't think you can do that. how did you created the bootable USB stick?23:17
Bashing-omcortexman: Well, If you install ubuntu onto that 2nd drive with the exact same usernane and password as the present install, it will make a copy of the install... will that work for you ?23:17
EriC^cortexman: how are you making the bootable usb?23:17
cortexman@Eric^ the question is not really about that detail23:18
EriC^cortexman: did you try the runtime boot options menu? did it show the usb there?23:18
cortexmanI am not trying to fix that23:18
EriC^k.. :D23:18
EriC^cortexman: let me tell you though, the laptop's that can't boot a usb must be 1990's, or you're going something wrong, but of course 'those details dont matter' and you obviously are here just to entertain us while you fix your own problem23:21
EriC^this should be entertaining though, somewhat sad, carry on23:22
cortexman"you are obviously here just to entertain us while you fix your own problem"23:28
cortexmanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging23:28
EriC^i guess there's nothing left to do but start quacking guys23:31
auctushmm, i had a problem where my dell e7440 laptop ethernet didnt work in 18.04, then, magically it started working (presumably due to an update), and now, it has stopped again23:33
tomreynok23:36
auctus"00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I218-LM"23:38
auctusi guess i will install the intel drivers23:38
justin__'Ello23:38
auctusworks now that i have the intel drivers, wonder if support was added to kernel and removed again or something23:41
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bosphiIf I use DD to clone my LUKS encrypted hard drive (the one in the laptop so unlocked and running) will the cloned copy be LUKS encrypted and have same password etc?23:59

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