[00:19] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2Rc9nM9QV6/ [00:19] Does any of that explain why kvm (and possibly samba) can't access my NTFS partitions? [00:33] On disco/19.04, does either okular or xournalpp render a smiley on page 9 (page 395) of this file? https://0x0.st/zHQr.pdf [00:34] (Earlier Ubuntu versions ship with older versions of the poppler PDF rendering library) === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [01:28] I cannot hear any sounds on the computer. "dummy outout" it seems. is this normal? [01:29] No. [01:30] !sound | cuma [01:30] cuma: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [01:32] I am trying === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [02:03] Is the sound card physically installed and recognized by your hardware? -lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"- Is it normal to wait a long time after writing? [02:20] Hi, how can I remove secret key from gpg key file? === murb_ is now known as xeodus === AkJung47 is now known as BlueStar [03:03] is default ubuntu already using gnome? [03:03] or is still using unity? i heard a while ago it was dropping unity for gnome [03:04] Elodin: Yep, for a few releases already. [03:04] my father came to me asking for a distro, so 18 has gnome already? [03:04] thanks [03:05] !unity [03:05] Unity is a graphical shell for the GNOME desktop environment. Ubuntu used it by default from 11.04 to 17.04. For more information, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity [03:17] This channel is closed. You are going to have to leave. === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [03:19] Haunted330: Please don't pull that crap here. [03:19] This channel is closed. You are going to have to leave. [03:19] You need to leave. We are closed. [03:19] There is not crap being pulled or anything [03:20] Haunted330: Please, drop the subject. It's incorrect and you know this. [03:20] Im just here doing my job. Thats all [03:20] please do not argue with me === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [03:53] hello guys... just wanna ask here, who is already using kernel 5.0 in Ubuntu 18.04 OS type 64bit [03:55] hello guys... just wanna ask here, who is already using kernel 5.0 in Ubuntu 18.04 OS type 64bit [03:56] Are there any known issues with ugrading my distribution from the command line? I remember when I started using ubuntu and would see posts in the forums about problems. [03:58] And, is there any way to output a list of the program names I have on my launch bar? [03:58] plongshot: As long as you follow the documentation on upgrading, you shouldn't have issues. Also, make sure you have backed up your system or have a recent back up [03:58] plongshot: ^^ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes . [03:59] plongshot: what version of ubuntu are you currently on? [03:59] pragmaticenigma: Thanks. I was gong off of this: https://www.ostechnix.com/upgrade-ubuntu-single-command/ Desktops section [03:59] pragmaticenigma: 16.04 LTTS [04:00] plongshot: that would be an example of doing it wrong... don't follow that article === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [04:00] ok [04:00] thanks for steering me straight [04:01] plongshot: for reference, the issue with that article is the "-d" after the do-release-upgrade ... the "-d" sets your installation on the development channel, which is BETA [04:02] plongshot: it wouldn't upgrade you to 18.04, it would instead put you on 19.04 which is still in development. Which might explain why you had issues in the past [04:02] it also would take you off the LTS release cycle [04:02] Bashing-om: are using the latest kernel 5.0? [04:03] !latest | mIk3_08 [04:03] mIk3_08: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [04:03] mIk3_08: No .. My daily is 18.04 - 4.15.0-46-generic . [04:04] pragmaticenigma: So, according to the text at the link you gave, If I want to upgrade from 16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS I have to do a total of 4 upgrades? (from 16.04 to 16.10, to 17.04, to 17.10, to 18.04)? [04:04] Does that sound right? [04:05] plongshot: no [04:05] Bashing-om: Thanks... same here. but planning to use the latest kernel. is it advisable? [04:06] What do they mean by "Renewing the Installation" in that article? [04:06] plongshot: NO ! LTS to LTS . what shows in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ? [04:06] Thanks ubottu... is it okay to use latest kernel? [04:07] mIk3_08: read the article in UWN this week, We are advised to wait for 19.04 stable. [04:07] Bashing-om: Prompt=lts [04:08] mIk3_08: ubottu is a bot, also, the latest kernel is not supported in this channel. Installing it is at your own risk and the volunteers in this channel will be unable to assist you with issues you have with your computer going forward [04:09] So I (ideally) will have all my settings, installed programs, items on the launcher, config in general when this i s all over? [04:09] mIk3_08: Let me rephrase... Kernel 5.0 is not supported in Ubuntu yet. This channel is only able to support Ubuntu installations running kernels from official Ubuntu software sources [04:09] pragmaticenigma: Thanks... [04:09] plongshot: Then when all is ready will go 16.04 to 18.04 :) .. make sure if you have nvidia graphic that you revert to nouveau ( for one thing ). [04:09] I mean, that's the intended behavior of the operation? [04:09] How can I find info how to do that? [04:11] plongshot: Correct, using the instructions here "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BionicUpgrades" ... with exceptions of programs not provided by Ubuntu's official software repos, everything will continue to be where you left them and have had them configured === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy === sinner is now known as Guest48663 [04:23] Клепченко Ольга === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [04:30] My driver is listed as "driver=i915" is that something I would have to worry about or do any tweaks for if I did a system upgrade? === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [04:32] Bashing-om: ^ ? [04:34] plongshot: Nope that i915 is Intell, and it is in the kernel. Nothing to fear there :) [04:38] How do I specify bridge ports with netplan? === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [04:45] amazoniantoad: Here: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan . [04:45] thanks === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [04:55] hi === ubuntu is now known as Guest64838 [05:15] mir and unity8 or gnome for ubuntu which one will be the best [05:16] I have an nfs export I just made and 3 machines can mount it just fine but one is getting "access is denied by server". any ideas how to figure out what is causing that? [05:16] !best | srcoldham1 [05:22] my feeling is that development should be on mir and unity8 because of convergence and lightweight interface. Devlopment on a desktop application could also work on a mobile device with some minor UI changes and scaling and snaps could take that lead snaps on mobile iot and desktop full unification [05:25] srcoldham1: See: https://news.softpedia.com/news/purism-announces-convergence-for-its-linux-phones-and-laptops-525203.shtml . [05:28] < Bashing-om>: yes they have achieved this but this does not apply to ubuntu our goal would be for ubuntu since this is an ubuntu forum plus ubuntu touch and unity8 would be a lot better than purism considering canoncial's reach and power both in the server space and strong influnce in desktop also [05:31] srcoldham1: You will be better served on #ubuntu-discuss; as this is not a support issue for this channel. [05:33] ok thanks [05:37] I'm creating my first cron job. Is this valid format for a cron scripts for it to run every day? 15 10 * * 0 [05:42] !cron | plongshot can this help? [05:42] plongshot can this help?: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto [05:48] lotuspsychje: I'm having a problem wher I get the error no crontab for user if I run crontab -l (sudo corntab -l gets no crontab for root). I have a script located in /etc/cron.daily but I'm wondering if I have written it's contents correctly. (I read somewhere that you have to begin the command with a time sequence of five fields) and my script did not contain that. [05:48] Sorry forgot to say... I also got the minute error when I ran crontab -u [user] [05:54] plongshot, i'm no expert but your paste *does* have fields in the time sequence. the last one I think is day of week though which will prob make your task run once per week [05:54] you can see the fields in the comment in /etc/crontab [05:54] does have 5 fields* [05:54] sometimes you need a user after the 5 time fields though I believe [05:55] yours has no use after time erroneous day of week field so the error makes sense [05:55] no user [06:13] Hi :) [06:13] hello === jbaumgartner_ is now known as sitm2 [06:15] is Golang worth learning? [06:15] sitm2: the scope of this channel is more about ubuntu support [06:16] is there a ubuntu lounge channel? [06:16] sitm2: maybe #programming help you too [06:16] sitm2: sure [06:16] sitm2: #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic [06:16] thanks! === wolf is now known as Guest87246 [06:26] Is there any way to tell if a cron job has been executing? Some log or something? [06:29] "/var/log/cron" [06:31] hi all. I am running Xubuntu 16.04.6 and because April 2019 is coming I run ubuntu-support-status command and I get 1455 packages (82.3%) supported until April 2021 (Canonical - 5y) --- 205 packages (11.6%) supported until April 2019 (Community - 3y) --- 47 packages (2.7%) supported until April 2021 (Community - 5y) --- 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded and 60 packages (3.4%) that are unsupported. Is there any way (inste [06:31] ad fo upgrade the system) to keep supported some of the packages which will be no more supported after April 2019? [06:32] ilias_gr: 16.04 is still supported longer then april [06:32] ilias_gr: its 14.04 going end of life in april [06:33] !yy.mm | ilias_gr [06:33] ilias_gr: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [06:35] lotuspsychje: I think it won't be supported any package supported from the Community. Isn't it? [06:36] ilias_gr: if you follow the LTS way and keep your packages clean from the official repos, you will be good [06:37] lotuspsychje: I have on my system LTS version and I am receiving any update normally. Is it OK for the future and will my system safe & updated until Apr 2021? [06:38] ilias_gr: depends on how you managed your system, maybe pastebin your sources.list to the channel? volunteers can take a look === neunon_ is now known as neunon === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ === sinner is now known as Guest81149 === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [07:23] Is "dist-upgrade" still necessary if you're using apt instead of apt-get? [07:23] I could be wrong, but I seem to remember things like new kernel versions were held back without "dist-upgrade", but I just got new kernels on my raspberry pi with just a normal "apt upgrade" [07:24] I think it is still necessary gerowen [07:25] p3tr1nn1: K, was just curious, thanks, :-) [07:25] no problem === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [07:39] alist search networks [07:40] can anyone tell me how to use alist to search for a channel on a given topic please [07:41] !alis [07:41] Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [07:55] thanks [07:55] found a page and the help option [08:01] having trouble signing in with sasl enabled have ticked the box and selected the tile with sasl msg nickserv+passwd and entered my details but it wont allow me to login see errors shown https://freenode.net/kb/answer/findingchannels [08:01] using hexchat [08:02] conjo: Please, any further network or client support in #freenode or #hexchat, respectively. [08:03] sorry [08:09] lucio dalla [08:13] I want to upload/create files on a local ftp server(vsftp) as anonymous and my vsftpd.conf is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KtYxY4ZKJ9/ but I can access but no write permission still [08:13] Gerowen: the 'apt' man page calls it 'full-upgrade', but 'dist-upgrade' should also work. [08:14] azad: and the error message sent to the client and the log message logged by the server are? [08:18] tomreyn, the logs https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7zZ88BW9Bq/ and yes, I am actually pavlushka on a client's machine === sinner is now known as Guest5082 [08:20] tomreyn, and the local clients to this ftp server are windows machines [08:23] the log shows only anonymous logins [08:23] oh you want anonymous uploads, ok [08:24] azad: be carefull with ftp, youl get hammered 24/7 :p [08:24] lotuspsychje, its a localonly === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [08:25] tomreyn, yes, anonymous uploads [08:26] * root_ [08:29] azad: maybe compare with this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60508/how-to-configure-an-anonymously-writable-ftp-server-with-vsftpd [08:29] tomreyn, on it [08:30] this config is old, though, so i'm not sure it still applies. i'm not really into ftp servers anymore, stopped using them years ago [08:31] hadyou considered alternatives? [08:32] tomreyn, actually I use sftp but it's on request for a easy-peasy solution for file-storage but no sensitive data [08:32] and sftp is not "easy peasy"? then why not use http? [08:33] Hello. The DSL connection on my Lubuntu 18.10 is not working. I have copied the connection settings from nm-connection-editor of my Ubuntu 16.04 where it works perfectly. There are some extra settings of "Parent Interface" and "PPP Interface" in the new version. How do I fix it? === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [08:34] tomreyn, it should be browsable through file-browser, that's the goal [08:34] azad: webdav would be. [08:35] sazawal: you want to connect a dsl with login:pass? [08:35] lotuspsychje: yes, I have my own username and password. [08:36] sazawal: compare here: https://medium.com/@dineshsonachalam/creating-a-dsl-connection-on-ubuntu-18-04-1-lts-c5b7845beea0 [08:37] lotuspsychje: This looks like the same solution as the first answer here https://askubuntu.com/questions/966647/how-to-create-a-dsl-connection-in-network-manager-in-ubuntu-17-10 But it didn't work for me. [08:38] sazawal: maybe lubuntu is missing something you need? [08:39] lotuspsychje: yes, I guess. By the way I have installed pppoe and pppoeconf, just to see if it works. Nothing helped so far. [08:39] sazawal: but did you try that with nmcli? [08:40] sazawal: also found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1771713 [08:40] Launchpad bug 1771713 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager doesn't lits created connection in 18.04." [Undecided,New] [08:41] lotuspsychje: yes, I tried that too. I mean from the askubuntu link, I have created the DSL connection from the terminal, and then opened it in nm-connection-editor to enter username and password. In your link it is entering the username and password from the nmcli console, which is the same I guess. [08:42] sazawal: so i presume after adding, in lubuntu's network settings it doesnt show neither? [08:43] lotuspsychje: By the way it seems to me that the questions are for "not finding a DSL connection option" in the nm-applet. But I found the option anyway in nm-connection-editor (I had to install network-manager-gnome though). [08:43] lotuspsychje: Let me check the launchpad bug. [08:44] sazawal: if you thinks its relevant, please affect to the bug and add your story [08:48] sazawal: Here's how you can create a DSL connection on the terminal: nmcli con edit type pppoe con-name "My DSL connection" [08:48] this enteres the interactive editor, where you can type: set pppoe.username "My ISP provided DSL username" [08:50] lotuspsychje: After adding it either in lubuntu default coonection editor, or in nm-connection-editor, I see it in the list of "Known Connections", but doesn't connect at all. The launchpad bug is a bit confusing to me. What is the meaning of "doesn't lits created connection"? [08:50] then you type "save", then "quit". now the nm-applet should show this connection. Clikcing it would trigger a conneciton attempt, bringing up a "DSL authentication" prompt with the username pre-filled, an empty "service" field which you keep empty (unless ISP instructed otherwise), and a password field where you place the SP provided DSL password. [08:50] sazawal: yeah the user didnt explained himself very well in the bug... [08:50] try what tomreyn suggests sazawal ^ [08:52] tomreyn: I guess this is the workaround because you do not see "Create new DSL connection" in the nm-applet. But this can be done using nm-connection-editor. Anyway I tried this from it from https://askubuntu.com/questions/966647/how-to-create-a-dsl-connection-in-network-manager-in-ubuntu-17-10, doesn't make a difference. === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [08:54] sazawal: in my (limiteD) experience, for some advanced configurations (such as maybe PPPoE) network manager needs to be configured on the CLI, GUI configurations just won't work. that's why i'm suggesting this workaround. [08:54] lotuspsychje: tomreyn I am not seeing any blinking or animations in the Network icon when I connect the DSL cable. So, I am suspecting either its a hardware or a adapter-driver issue. I am going to make a bootable Ubuntu 18.10 USB and try connecting the DSL first. [08:55] looks like this is what you did, though [08:56] if it fails with the live image, maybe try a 16.04.6 live image, too, to rule out a hardware issue. [08:57] tomreyn: Yes you are right, because it works on my other Ubuntu 16.04 laptop. [08:58] do you really have a dsl modem only, though, not a router? most people have routers nowadays. [09:00] tomreyn: Lol, yes. Actually I am trying fix it for an old friend. They are scared of new technologies you know. [09:00] do they use wheels? [09:01] tomreyn: no, not yet :) [09:01] Is xdotool installed by default on ubuntu and ubuntu-based distros? I forgot whether I installed it myself or it was already there when I first switched. === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [09:02] !info xdotool [09:02] xdotool (source: xdotool): simulate (generate) X11 keyboard/mouse input events. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.20160805.1-3 (bionic), package size 41 kB, installed size 119 kB [09:02] nope, it is extra [09:03] thanks [09:03] sazawal: i can understand and appreciate the approach where you don't want proprietary hardware to manage your internet connection. for the dsl modem, this will always be proprietary, sadly. but there are open hardware routers, too, and it's a lot more convenient especially if they have multiple internet accessing devices. [09:03] How do I add a virtual interface under netplan? I can't find documentation online [09:04] my neighbors came to visit the condolences. we could not solve the sound problem for three days. [09:08] tomreyn, it is working now somehow, tried something, can't tell which one triggered the permission. :p [09:08] Do you have suggestions on updating bios. [09:09] tomreyn: right. The real reason is that my friend (65 now), has the impression that having a new router would break everything that is already working. === Johnny_ is now known as Johnny [09:10] amazoniantoad: for netplan, try #ubuntu-server - also see https://askubuntu.com/questions/1054034/netplan-how-to-describe-veth-peer-links (in case veth is what you want, you don't specify the type of virtual NIC) [09:11] sazawal: well, sometimes that's just true. and soemtimes, especially elderly people, are too worried about change. === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [09:13] tomreyn, I'm just ditching netplan and sticking with ifupdown. What's the deal with netplan anyway? Why use it at all? I've always thought that if something isn't broken, don't fix it [09:14] amazoniantoad: ifupdown support is fading, so it is replacing somthing that'll break soon. [09:15] tomreyn, oh. well netplan isn't even fully developed yet. I mean you can't even make additional interfaces in it! [09:15] Can you help me update the BIOS? [09:15] amazoniantoad: netplan is a management utility for creating systemd.networks and netwokr manager configurations. it is optional, you can also configure these directly. [09:16] amazoniantoad: netplan is a management utility for creating systemd-networkd and network-manager configurations. it is optional, you can also configure these directly. [09:16] ^ typos fixed [09:17] cuma: that's entirely a ##hardware matter, not ubuntu related. but i can help if you join #ubuntu-offtopic or another channel of your choice (can be a new one) where it's not off-topic. [09:18] ohh I see [09:20] kimsenin dıngılında değil [09:21] hemen şutla gitsin [09:22] i will visit the rooms you write [09:23] # hardware [09:23] şaka gibi [09:26] cuma: english only here, please [09:26] sorry, i will pay attention === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [09:37] cuma: i don't see you in ##hardware and you haven't told me another channel to join, so i'll move on to something else. [09:37] oh, i take this back === Noisette is now known as Plumette === Noisette_ is now known as Plumette [09:51] i ready to restore the deleted file using debugfs command , when i type "debugfs -w /dev/sda3" ,prompt:"/dev/sda3: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem === Class7_ is now known as Class7 [09:52] whoareU: are you trying to recover lost data? [09:52] my entire directory be deleted [09:52] whoareU: what does "sudo blkid /dev/sda3" give? [09:52] do you have backups? [09:54] no backup === Noisette_ is now known as Plumette [09:54] "/dev/sda3: UUID="IkK6d8-ABjF-cvpF-RFft-5xEv-4Quw-F7HE3J" TYPE="LVM2_member" PARTUUID="60166633-2589-444a-8910-135c0e68824f" " [09:54] whoareU: type 'sudo parted -s' [09:54] whoareU: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' [09:55] nc option is not right [09:56] must have typod [09:56] can you paste the error [09:56] "bash: nc: command not found... [09:56] " [09:58] whoareU: type 'sudo parted -ls' and paste in http://paste.ubuntu.com [10:02] https://img.vim-cn.com/47/8a573ecaec4d228609c75e93db6f0d6a5dd6d2.png [10:02] the sda3 had umounted [10:02] whoareU: you're using xfs ... [10:03] whoareU: try /join #xfs [10:03] thanks [10:04] np === berg__ is now known as Guest44672 === Noisette is now known as Plumette [10:49] Hi, can anyone here help a little bit with Ubuntu desktop installation? I've setup a kickstart server to do automated installas for RHEL, Ubuntu & CentOS server editions. There is a need for a desktop automated install only for ubuntu. [10:50] Can I use the same server kickstart file and just add 'ubuntu-desktop' and 'unity' packages? would that be sufficient? I know pressed is the better option which we will move on to but at this time just trying to make it simple with only kickstart === conjo is now known as nowayman [11:21] uzee: i've not recently done it, but as far as i know kickstart is still supported. and you juts need to add ubuntu-desktop (or the graphical desktop flavour of your choice), no need to list unity (unless you want unity-desktop, which is noo longer the default desktop in current ubuntu). [11:23] tomreyn: thanks very much, is it also a correct understanding that "desktop version doesn't support unattended installations" from http://gyk.lt/ubuntu-16-04-desktop-unattended-installation/ [11:24] I'm trying to figure out if i should point to a desktop version for installation or keep the server edition and only add ubuntu-desktop ? [11:34] In man srm " -f fast (and insecure mode): no /dev/urandom, no synchronize mode." What is synchronize mode? [11:36] uzee: personally i'd prefer doing a pxe boot using the debian-installer, so using either mini.iso or the alternative server installer. [11:37] uzee: i don't know what the state of kickstart support on the desktop installer is. [11:37] and current LTS is 18.04.2 [11:38] tomreyn: yes it seems like there are a some unknowns in this domain. I agree and aslo wanted a pxe based approach however, there is already a pxe server used by our windows guys, and sadly I can't have another pxe server on the same network :( although I could've investigated that in a different subnet but I haven't done that so far [11:39] and using the existing pxe server is not an option? [11:40] my biggest concern with ubuntu kickstart, when compared with rhel/centos kickstart, is that with ubuntu kickstart I have to provide an internet based source for the url. Whereas in rhel/centos I can use the localhost so that installation does not require internet access. I don't think there is a way around it, if you know of one, I'd be delighted to know [11:41] i don't know how (or whether?) pxe booting works with windows, it is probably different, but maybe there's a deployment system which can handle both. [11:41] so my kickstart has this: url --url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [11:41] url --url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [11:42] the original idea was to have a local self-contained server which hosts all the installation media files/packages, etc. I'm hoping the preseeding will allow that, but I don't know yet [11:42] that's an archive mirror where the ubuntu installer will (in a secure way) install software from === conjo is now known as sohkha [11:43] you can host a local archive mirror, or just a proxy cache for it. [11:43] tomreyn: I understand but I tried giving an http path to my kickstart server and it doesn't work, then I read somewhere that it needs to be an ubuntu internet url [11:43] a local file path may also work. [11:44] uzee: i don't know what a "http path" or an "ubuntu insternet url" are [11:44] for a local archive mirror, I'd neet to setup a proper ubuntu mirror, correct? and I don't know what is a proxy cache and how to make it work? any pointers... ? thanks much [11:45] an archive mirror would be a full mirror of the ubuntu archives for the ubuntu releases you need mirrored, yes. [11:45] In man srm " -f fast (and insecure mode): no /dev/urandom, no synchronize mode." What is synchronize mode? [11:46] uzee: a proxy cache is a server which downloads any files from the internet and passes them down to the requesting client, but then caches those files and passes them directly to the next client requesting the same file. [11:47] ah, ok. by the http path I mean the source of installation media, for centos for example, I have: url --url=http://myserver.domain/centos/CentOS6 [11:48] tomreyn, I'll look into the proxy cache as well as setting up a local ubuntu mirror. My main reason to avoid it was because then there's one more machine to manage and make sure is updated, etc. [11:48] Hey, I have the following output for startup times, any suggestions as to how i can make it quicker? it's a virtualbox with 18.04 ubuntu. https://pastebin.com/8XJ75Aqm [11:48] by internet url, I meant the url parameter and value in the kickstart file [11:48] uzee: https://github.com/vrillusions/ubuntu-kickstart seems to provide tested kickstart configurations (found by a web search, i have no experience with this and there is no warranty on anything) [11:48] i think srm gives no synchronised mode, as there is nothing to sync [11:49] tomreyn: thanks, I believe I did come across that as well, however haven't tried it, will certainly give it a shot... [11:50] tomreyn, OerHeks you two are ubuntu gods mad props [11:51] OerHeks: What do you mean? If there is only one way to synchronize or no, why is it listed in man as a toggle effect? I was thinking maybe sychronize as in working to secure delete multiple files at once? [11:51] Howdy folks [11:51] but my interpretation doesn't really make sense with the wording of the man [11:52] I mean why would the simple fast toggle or whatever it's called, not be able to do something faster, so I must be wrong [11:53] terabyte: vboxadd.service is probably only once. if it turns out to delay the boot every time, use the apt repository from virtualbox.org instead, if it still takes long then, seek support in #vbox. [11:54] tomreyn: so you reckon this is down to it being installed on vbox? [11:54] let me reboot and see what happens [11:55] terabyte: well at least what you posted has the longest selay listed for this service, so this is probably what you'd tackle first. [11:55] selay -> delay [11:55] ok [11:55] ubuntu and only 1429 people ? realy? so sad [11:56] benederes: do you have an ubuntu question? [11:56] nope,just checking IRC [11:56] never use it before [11:57] tomreyn: so I had a quick look at the github link, but it looks like it uses a local cdrom as the insallation media :( [11:57] !chat | benederes [11:57] benederes: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [11:57] What I'm trying to do is to point to a remote server so that installas a re not dependent on someone physically inserting a cdrom/usb and then running the installer [11:57] separately to this, I'm finding that ubuntu is really laggy graphically. any time i do anything in the UI it's slow to react. if i hover over an icon it takes a second before the highlight occurs, if i click, it will take a second or 2 to react and draw. any basic checks I should do? [11:58] Also, is there a separate irc channel for ubuntu desktop? that might also be worth checking out? [11:59] terabyte: your desktop or the virtualbox? [11:59] lotuspsychje: ubuntu 18.04 in the virtualbox. clicking terminal icon takes 10 seconds after clicking to actually show a terminal [11:59] my desktop (windows host) is super fast... [12:00] uzee: there is #ubuntu-server where i assume pxe installations are best discussed. [12:00] terabyte: virtualbox is always more laggy then a physical install, also doesnt fully use your graphics card [12:00] lotuspsychje: would vmware be any better? [12:01] terabyte: i meant virtual machines in general [12:02] lotuspsychje: i mean i expect them to be slower, but this level of sluggishness seems excessive [12:02] lotuspsychje: regardless thanks for the help [12:02] terabyte: ubuntu-desktop with gnome is now heavier [12:02] terabyte: but you can do alot to tweak [12:02] tomreyn: thanks will try there as well === niee is now known as Ryzen10 [12:03] terabyte: i always disable unwanted startup services, install preload, clean system with bleachbit,finetune graphic settings,... [12:04] ok [12:04] In man srm " -f fast (and insecure mode): no /dev/urandom, no synchronize mode." What is synchronize mode? [12:06] sync(1) - Synchronize cached writes to persistent storage [12:06] Bilbo0: ^ [12:09] tomreyn: I don't understand. So what is the difference with srm run "synchronized" verses "no synchronized"? [12:11] Bilbo0: it will make sure to write any change to disk immediately vs whenever the disk's write cache runs full. [12:11] so synchronized is slower. [12:13] but eliminates the dependency on proper operation the write cache. and the possibility to loose these queued writes in case of a sudden system failure. [12:13] * proper operation OF the write cache [12:14] tomreyn: "no sync" writes to disk immediately? [12:14] the other way around [12:14] If sync writes to disk immediately, how would that not make it faster? [12:16] Bilbo0, you choose -f .. so it skips the urandom writes, that makes it faster, and also sync, that makes it slower again [12:17] in milliseconds, not minutes [12:17] i guess the -f option makes it just as bad/secure as rm [12:18] I tested non-f on a couple 100mb files. Nothing happened to them till final pass. If it is writing over the file the whole time, how come I can access it normally till the very end? [12:21] .. you could access files while secure deleting from commandline ??.. how did you access them? [12:22] I have installed Lubuntu 18.10, and the ethernet is not working. It doesn't work either on the Ubuntu live USB. I suspect it is either hardware or driver issue. How can I troubleshoot it to know the problem? [12:23] OerHeks: They were some anime videos I duplicated then deleted with srm. The videos played fine till the verbose terminal did its final pass [12:23] sazawal: Cable plugged in? [12:23] tomreyn: So, it didn't work on Ubuntu 16.04 live USB. The internet works on the same live USB when connected to the other laptop. [12:23] interesting.. so they were in your cache [12:23] I left the directory and went back closed the media player and reopened and the videos played fine till they were gone [12:24] m__: yes it is. Also see my recent reply to tomreyn . [12:24] OerHeks: But I have low swap, I should be using memory till the very end. Or high swap, which is it that makes you use swap drive the least and memory the most? [12:25] sazawal: is that the same box as your dsl problem? [12:26] Bilbo0, you are fine, files are deleted, and if you keep accessing them from cache, while deleting, that is odd behaviour [12:26] lotuspsychje: Yes, the same box, same network, same login. [12:26] lotuspsychje: Actually, I don't see any animation or blinking when I connect the cable. [12:27] animation in the network icon* [12:27] they are gone after removal ended [12:27] sazawal: what does `ip l` list [12:27] ? [12:27] ayekat: 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: wlp1s0b1: mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 20:10:7a:2e:3c:b4 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff [12:28] i know but i dont care anymore [12:28] The wifi is working by the way, which is a hotspot from other laptop. [12:28] OerHeks: which is it that makes you use swap drive the least and memory the most? [12:28] sazawal: yeah, so the network card isn't recognised properly, it seems - do you see the ethernet network card in the output of `lspci`? [12:29] Most of the time, when clients complaining this, cable is not plugged in, also I had to clean the golden parts of the plug and the socket, did that with a tooth brush-success! [12:40] ayekat: I guess I do not see an ethernet card. Here is the output of lspci, https://paste.linux.community/view/6e3eccb9 [12:42] m__: I don't think this is a dust problem, because it is a newly bought clean laptop (although second hand). I mean I don't see any dust. [12:44] sazawal: hmm, indeed - there appears to be no network card [12:44] sazawal: is it detected with any other OS? [12:45] ayekat: I only tried with Ubuntu 16.04 live USB, where it didn't work. I didn't check the lspci by the way. Should I do it? I think it won't show in U 16.04 either because the ethernet was not working. [12:46] likely [12:46] sazawal: im bit confused, a dsl connection goes tru a dsl modem right? its usb based yours? [12:46] maybe it's just not properly connected to the motherboard [12:47] ayekat: So from lspci, do I have not ethernet card or there is no ethernet driver? It doesn't make sense to not have ethernet card, because there is an ethernet slot. [12:47] sazawal: well, the kernel can't see any network device plugged in, so even if it had a driver, that driver couldn't do anything [12:48] sazawal: pastebin your dmesg perhaps, volunteers might have a look whats happening to it [12:48] lotuspsychje: I don't know many technicalities of ethernet, but the incoming cable to the house goes through a modem and then through a router (not wifi router) and then the ethernet cable comes to my computer. [12:48] sazawal: easy way, copy/paste URL> dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:52] swappability confuses me, do I want a low number or high number for most use of RAM and least use of drive? [12:52] Hi, I need help, I wanted to check if bootable USB will work fine, I changed boot order, I checked USB drive it was fine, but after the restart computer stopped seeing my drive in the bootable section, so I cannot run my system, I removed additional drive and still nothing [12:52] is there anything I can do? [12:53] jeremy31: I don't know what is wrong but termbin command is not giving me any output links. It just ends with no output. I will paste it on pastebin now, and later solve this issue. [12:53] pldiem: how did you burn the usb stick? [12:54] I don't remember now, there is memtest86 [12:54] pldiem: you sure it works? [12:55] yes, I run it again just now and there were some checks at the beginning and I just exited [12:55] pldiem: some systems you can bring up the media startup with F12 [12:55] let me check [12:55] i know but i dont care anymore [12:56] Jens1112: can we help you? [12:56] lotuspsychje: empty list [12:56] @lotuspsychje: thanks [12:56] pldiem: try another usb port yet? === SysGhost is now known as SysGh_st [12:57] Jens1112: you wrote "i know but i dont care anymore" twice, seemingly without any context. are you looking for ubuntu support? [12:57] pldiem: what what about bios, does it recognize usb brand? [12:57] hmm... but it is no the problem with USB [12:57] @tomreyn: that was auto-filled [12:58] pldiem: we are trying to find out whats the problem === SysGh_st is now known as SysGhost [12:58] Jens1112: ok, please don't make automated posts to this channel. thanks. [12:58] USB works fine, but after running USB bios stopped seeing my system drive [12:58] I just want to be sure we are on the same page [12:59] do you want me to check another USB port? [12:59] pldiem: ah its your internal harddisk it doesnt see? [12:59] yes [12:59] @tomreyn: sure i did not meant to it was unintentionally [12:59] Jens1112: alright ;) [12:59] pldiem: is that an uefi system? [12:59] so I cannot boot my system [13:00] yes UEFI [13:00] pldiem: are you going to dualboot or singleboot ubuntu? [13:00] singleboot [13:00] pldiem: could you check if secureboot is=off and fastboot=off please? [13:00] I just removed the additional drive to be sure it doesn't mess with anything [13:01] pldiem: you said "I removed additional drive" but did not discuss adding this drive before, or its purpose, for what i could gather. [13:01] secureboot is off in the BIOS [13:01] pldiem: you sure your partitions are not several on 1 big HD? [13:01] I don't see fast boot option [13:02] pldiem: maybe you plugged out the main harddisk, with all your partitions? [13:02] the second drive is an old HDD 5200rpm [13:02] kk [13:02] just for storing data [13:02] pldiem: either way, what you describe makes it look like you made some (mainboard firmware) configuration change which you did not reverse, or not properly. because booting off the internal storage worked initially, and no longer works now. [13:02] pldiem: so however, your bios must recognize the HD right? [13:04] I did no changes in BIOS [13:04] but changing boot order [13:04] pldiem: It may depend on *how* the firmware setup configure boot devices. Some list each device in order, others list device types in order (e.g. USB, HDD, Net) and *then* have a sub-list for the HDD type for example. [13:05] unfortunately my list is empty [13:05] pldiem: If the firmware is not recognising the internal HDD/SSD that suggests a physical problem OR that the system was originally booting in Legacy BIOS/CSM mode and you've disabled that mode [13:05] pldiem: what Os was on that second HD please? [13:06]