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| varu | so i'm running the latest stable lubuntu (18.10); i'd like to get a dark theme going. this seems to be a "Qt Style" - Breeze, Oxygen, Fusion, QtCurve etc are available (a few installed with kde-style-X packages) - but none seem to change the actual window content colour | 16:57 |
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| varu | how could i make this happen? | 16:57 |
| varu | *none seem to offer a dark version, as the window chrome & content colour does change | 16:58 |
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| santi | hi everyone | 20:18 |
| wxl | o/ | 20:19 |
| santi | i got a GRUB installation problem | 20:19 |
| santi | IT SAIS brub INSTALLATION FAILED | 20:20 |
| santi | it sais GRUB installation failed | 20:20 |
| wxl | did you check the hashes of the iso and the disc for defects before you installed? | 20:21 |
| santi | the "grub-pc" package failed to installinto /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot | 20:22 |
| santi | (and it does not, of course) | 20:22 |
| santi | I woulnt know how to do that | 20:23 |
| santi | wxl I wouldnt know how to do that | 20:23 |
| wxl | !hashes | 20:23 |
| ubottu | See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases | 20:23 |
| wxl | you want to first check the hashes of the iso file | 20:24 |
| wxl | and then when you boot it, select "check disc for defects" | 20:24 |
| lynorian | https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/1.1/retrieving_the_image.html is the url from the manual as well | 20:24 |
| wxl | ^^^ | 20:24 |
| santi | ok thanl you wxl | 20:24 |
| santi | tnx lyoran | 20:27 |
| santi | would you guys put the latest version of lubuntu on a 2005 vaio latiop w 256 RAM? | 20:31 |
| santi | or the 16.4? | 20:31 |
| wxl | i'd probably retire it XD | 20:32 |
| wxl | i mean it's not going to do much for you. the modern web will bring that crawling to its knees. | 20:33 |
| teward | if anything I'd put Ubuntu Server on it and just use it as a 'low powered server' | 20:37 |
| teward | 256MB RAM is insufficient to run anything web-related in the modern era | 20:37 |
| teward | (except small static-content webservers and such) | 20:37 |
| santi | i wanna use it as a moitor for twwitter and facebook pages | 20:37 |
| santi | super static | 20:37 |
| lubot | <lynorian> facebook is quite heavy | 20:37 |
| lubot | <lynorian> not static | 20:38 |
| wxl | ridiculously heavy | 20:38 |
| wxl | i'd use server and find some command line tool to do that | 20:38 |
| teward | if you intend to use FB for it, you're going to want a new computer | 20:38 |
| teward | and just retire that laptop | 20:38 |
| teward | it's obsolete for FB | 20:38 |
| teward | and no FB and Twitter aren't 'static-content' pages | 20:38 |
| teward | they're dynamic | 20:38 |
| teward | and heavy on scripts and evil | 20:39 |
| lubot | <teward001> and there is no CLI interface currently that'd work on Server in a sane way | 20:39 |
| lubot | <teward001> so if your goal is FB and Twitter, time to retire that system and get a new one | 20:39 |
| lubot | <teward001> (and yes I'm hopping between communication mechanisms, sue me) | 20:39 |
| santi | ok, just the front page of a news site | 20:39 |
| santi | what about that? | 20:40 |
| teward | same issue since 'news sites' are heavy on the scripts and Java and graphics | 20:40 |
| teward | TL;DR for the MOST PART your 256MB RAM laptop is obsolete and even just trying to run Firefox on that will explode it | 20:40 |
| teward | and any low-resource browser that would 'support' that RAM level is not going to function proper | 20:40 |
| santi | what do you mean evil? I wouldnt use it for anything else than peaking at it or the news | 20:40 |
| wxl | at least not for dynamic content | 20:40 |
| wxl | he doesn't mean actual evil | 20:41 |
| lubot | <teward001> of which news sites, FB, and Twitter are all dynamic content | 20:41 |
| lubot | <teward001> and yes, by 'evil' I don't mean good/evil type of evil, I mean it'll cause problems with Low-RAM systems and your system will seize up and freeze and likely break | 20:41 |
| lubot | <teward001> even if you just open Firefox :P | 20:42 |
| wxl | evil in this case is a figurative way of saying resource intensive | 20:42 |
| lubot | <teward001> ^ | 20:42 |
| lubot | <teward001> evil because you'll probably have to force-powerdown the laptop and reboot it to regain use/stability | 20:42 |
| santi | but i already use it w/ lubuntu in the tey without install moed and it works like a charm | 20:42 |
| santi | just for being at a news site and scroll it or even read an article after clicking | 20:43 |
| wxl | using it live isn't a similar experience honestly | 20:44 |
| santi | *try | 20:44 |
| santi | +mode | 20:44 |
| teward | that's called 'using it Live' | 20:44 |
| wxl | anyways to answer your original question, lubuntu is the lightest weight fully graphical solution, so yeah, use that | 20:44 |
| santi | would you suggest i stick w/ live mode? | 20:46 |
| wxl | no, that's a worse solution because it uses a portion of your memory to run the entire operating system | 20:46 |
| santi | would it be better ? | 20:46 |
| santi | ok | 20:46 |
| wxl | if you have no shortage of hard drive space, you can make use of swap files to effectively increase your total memory | 20:47 |
| wxl | so that's a way in which the installed system woudl be better | 20:47 |
| santi | the machine got 100GB of disk space and none of it I plan to use for anything | 20:48 |
| santi | how do i do this thing you said? | 20:51 |
| santi | so 16.4 or 18.0? | 20:52 |
| wxl | get it installed first | 20:52 |
| wxl | oldest | 20:52 |
| santi | crap, im almost done w/ 1801. Ok, I get 16.4. I already have 16.1 saved | 20:53 |
| lubot | <teward001> 16.10* you mean | 20:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> 16.1 is NOT 16.10 and doesn't actually exist :P | 20:54 |
| santi | yes | 20:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> (also 16.10 is way past End of Life so don't use it) | 20:54 |
| wxl | isn't 16.10 dead? | 20:54 |
| wxl | 16.04 | 20:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> wxl: 16.10 is long since dead | 20:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> 16.04 isn't dead yet | 20:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> april | 20:54 |
| lubot | <teward001> at least AFAIK (but for Lubuntu 16.04 support is pretty dead) | 20:55 |
| teward | i mean, @tsimonq2 might have something to say about that statement but :p | 20:55 |
| teward | *hides* | 20:55 |
| santi | so I d better get 16.04.5 LTS but desktop32 desktop poewr Pc Alternate 32 or alternate power pc? | 20:58 |
| wxl | you're on a mac? | 20:58 |
| santi | no | 20:59 |
| wxl | then not the power pc | 20:59 |
| wxl | alternate is smaller and uses less memory | 20:59 |
| santi | ok, 32 or alternate? whats alternate? | 20:59 |
| santi | another architecture that isnt 64 or 32? | 21:00 |
| wxl | it's a smaller installer | 21:00 |
| lynorian | Altnerate is really low memory installer that is a different installer | 21:00 |
| santi | i used to use slitaz what do you think of it? | 21:01 |
| varu | wasn't that a slackware livecd distro? | 21:02 |
| varu | also no one here runs 18.10 with a dark theme? | 21:02 |
| varu | huh, wasn't slackware-based at all, looked it up out of mind refresh curiosity and i stand corrected | 21:03 |
| santi | i guess so | 21:03 |
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