[16:57] <varu> so i'm running the latest stable lubuntu (18.10); i'd like to get a dark theme going. this seems to be a "Qt Style" - Breeze, Oxygen, Fusion, QtCurve etc are available (a few installed with kde-style-X packages) - but none seem to change the actual window content colour
[16:57] <varu> how could i make this happen?
[16:58] <varu> *none seem to offer a dark version, as the window chrome & content colour does change
[20:18] <santi> hi everyone
[20:19] <wxl> o/
[20:19] <santi> i got a GRUB installation problem
[20:20] <santi> IT SAIS brub INSTALLATION FAILED
[20:20] <santi> it sais GRUB installation failed
[20:21] <wxl> did you check the hashes of the iso and the disc for defects before you installed?
[20:22] <santi> the "grub-pc" package failed to installinto /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot
[20:22] <santi> (and it does not, of course)
[20:23] <santi> I woulnt know how to do that
[20:23] <santi> wxl I wouldnt know how to do that
[20:23] <wxl> !hashes
[20:24] <wxl> you want to first check the hashes of the iso file
[20:24] <wxl> and then when you boot it, select "check disc for defects"
[20:24] <lynorian> https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/1.1/retrieving_the_image.html is the url from the manual as well
[20:24] <wxl> ^^^
[20:24] <santi> ok thanl you wxl
[20:27] <santi> tnx lyoran
[20:31] <santi> would you guys put the latest version of lubuntu on a 2005 vaio latiop w 256 RAM?
[20:31] <santi> or the 16.4?
[20:32] <wxl> i'd probably retire it XD
[20:33] <wxl> i mean it's not going to do much for you. the modern web will bring that crawling to its knees.
[20:37] <teward> if anything I'd put Ubuntu Server on it and just use it as a 'low powered server'
[20:37] <teward> 256MB RAM is insufficient to run anything web-related in the modern era
[20:37] <teward> (except small static-content webservers and such)
[20:37] <santi> i wanna use it as a moitor for twwitter and facebook pages
[20:37] <santi> super static
 facebook is quite heavy
 not static
[20:38] <wxl> ridiculously heavy
[20:38] <wxl> i'd use server and find some command line tool to do that
[20:38] <teward> if you intend to use FB for it, you're going to want a new computer
[20:38] <teward> and just retire that laptop
[20:38] <teward> it's obsolete for FB
[20:38] <teward> and no FB and Twitter aren't 'static-content' pages
[20:38] <teward> they're dynamic
[20:39] <teward> and heavy on scripts and evil
 and there is no CLI interface currently that'd work on Server in a sane way
 so if your goal is FB and Twitter, time to retire that system and get a new one
 (and yes I'm hopping between communication mechanisms, sue me)
[20:39] <santi> ok, just the front page of a news site
[20:40] <santi> what about that?
[20:40] <teward> same issue since 'news sites' are heavy on the scripts and Java and graphics
[20:40] <teward> TL;DR for the MOST PART your 256MB RAM laptop is obsolete and even just trying to run Firefox on that will explode it
[20:40] <teward> and any low-resource browser that would 'support' that RAM level is not going to function proper
[20:40] <santi> what do you mean evil? I wouldnt use it for anything else than peaking at it or the news
[20:40] <wxl> at least not for dynamic content
[20:41] <wxl> he doesn't mean actual evil
 of which news sites, FB, and Twitter are all dynamic content
 and yes, by 'evil' I don't mean good/evil type of evil, I mean it'll cause problems with Low-RAM systems and your system will seize up and freeze and likely break
 even if you just open Firefox :P
[20:42] <wxl> evil in this case is a figurative way of saying resource intensive
 ^
 evil because you'll probably have to force-powerdown the laptop and reboot it to regain use/stability
[20:42] <santi> but i already use it w/ lubuntu in the tey without install moed and it works like a charm
[20:43] <santi> just for being at a news site and scroll it or even read an article after clicking
[20:44] <wxl> using it live isn't a similar experience honestly
[20:44] <santi> *try
[20:44] <santi> +mode
[20:44] <teward> that's called 'using it Live'
[20:44] <wxl> anyways to answer your original question, lubuntu is the lightest weight fully graphical solution, so yeah, use that
[20:46] <santi> would you suggest i stick w/ live mode?
[20:46] <wxl> no, that's a worse solution because it uses a portion of your memory to run the entire operating system
[20:46] <santi> would it be better ?
[20:46] <santi> ok
[20:47] <wxl> if you have no shortage of hard drive space, you can make use of swap files to effectively increase your total memory
[20:47] <wxl> so that's a way in which the installed system woudl be better
[20:48] <santi> the machine got 100GB of disk space and none of it I plan to use for anything
[20:51] <santi> how do i do this thing you said?
[20:52] <santi> so 16.4 or 18.0?
[20:52] <wxl> get it installed first
[20:52] <wxl> oldest
[20:53] <santi> crap, im almost done w/ 1801. Ok, I get 16.4. I already have 16.1 saved
 16.10* you mean
 16.1 is NOT 16.10 and doesn't actually exist :P
[20:54] <santi> yes
 (also 16.10 is way past End of Life so don't use it)
[20:54] <wxl> isn't 16.10 dead?
[20:54] <wxl> 16.04
 wxl: 16.10 is long since dead
 16.04 isn't dead yet
 april
 at least AFAIK (but for Lubuntu 16.04 support is pretty dead)
[20:55] <teward> i mean, @tsimonq2 might have something to say about that statement but :p
[20:55] <teward> *hides*
[20:58] <santi> so I d better get 16.04.5 LTS but desktop32 desktop poewr Pc Alternate 32 or alternate power pc?
[20:58] <wxl> you're on a mac?
[20:59] <santi> no
[20:59] <wxl> then not the power pc
[20:59] <wxl> alternate is smaller and uses less memory
[20:59] <santi> ok, 32 or alternate? whats alternate?
[21:00] <santi> another architecture that isnt 64 or 32?
[21:00] <wxl> it's a smaller installer
[21:00] <lynorian> Altnerate is really low memory installer that is a different installer
[21:01] <santi> i used to use slitaz what do you think of it?
[21:02] <varu> wasn't that a slackware livecd distro?
[21:02] <varu> also no one here runs 18.10 with a dark theme?
[21:03] <varu> huh, wasn't slackware-based at all, looked it up out of mind refresh curiosity and i stand corrected
[21:03] <santi> i guess so