=== taylor is now known as Guest47062 === panda is now known as Guest78025 [16:57] so i'm running the latest stable lubuntu (18.10); i'd like to get a dark theme going. this seems to be a "Qt Style" - Breeze, Oxygen, Fusion, QtCurve etc are available (a few installed with kde-style-X packages) - but none seem to change the actual window content colour [16:57] how could i make this happen? [16:58] *none seem to offer a dark version, as the window chrome & content colour does change === lubuntu is now known as Guest44470 [20:18] hi everyone [20:19] o/ [20:19] i got a GRUB installation problem [20:20] IT SAIS brub INSTALLATION FAILED [20:20] it sais GRUB installation failed [20:21] did you check the hashes of the iso and the disc for defects before you installed? [20:22] the "grub-pc" package failed to installinto /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot [20:22] (and it does not, of course) [20:23] I woulnt know how to do that [20:23] wxl I wouldnt know how to do that [20:23] !hashes [20:23] See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases [20:24] you want to first check the hashes of the iso file [20:24] and then when you boot it, select "check disc for defects" [20:24] https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/1.1/retrieving_the_image.html is the url from the manual as well [20:24] ^^^ [20:24] ok thanl you wxl [20:27] tnx lyoran [20:31] would you guys put the latest version of lubuntu on a 2005 vaio latiop w 256 RAM? [20:31] or the 16.4? [20:32] i'd probably retire it XD [20:33] i mean it's not going to do much for you. the modern web will bring that crawling to its knees. [20:37] if anything I'd put Ubuntu Server on it and just use it as a 'low powered server' [20:37] 256MB RAM is insufficient to run anything web-related in the modern era [20:37] (except small static-content webservers and such) [20:37] i wanna use it as a moitor for twwitter and facebook pages [20:37] super static [20:37] facebook is quite heavy [20:38] not static [20:38] ridiculously heavy [20:38] i'd use server and find some command line tool to do that [20:38] if you intend to use FB for it, you're going to want a new computer [20:38] and just retire that laptop [20:38] it's obsolete for FB [20:38] and no FB and Twitter aren't 'static-content' pages [20:38] they're dynamic [20:39] and heavy on scripts and evil [20:39] and there is no CLI interface currently that'd work on Server in a sane way [20:39] so if your goal is FB and Twitter, time to retire that system and get a new one [20:39] (and yes I'm hopping between communication mechanisms, sue me) [20:39] ok, just the front page of a news site [20:40] what about that? [20:40] same issue since 'news sites' are heavy on the scripts and Java and graphics [20:40] TL;DR for the MOST PART your 256MB RAM laptop is obsolete and even just trying to run Firefox on that will explode it [20:40] and any low-resource browser that would 'support' that RAM level is not going to function proper [20:40] what do you mean evil? I wouldnt use it for anything else than peaking at it or the news [20:40] at least not for dynamic content [20:41] he doesn't mean actual evil [20:41] of which news sites, FB, and Twitter are all dynamic content [20:41] and yes, by 'evil' I don't mean good/evil type of evil, I mean it'll cause problems with Low-RAM systems and your system will seize up and freeze and likely break [20:42] even if you just open Firefox :P [20:42] evil in this case is a figurative way of saying resource intensive [20:42] ^ [20:42] evil because you'll probably have to force-powerdown the laptop and reboot it to regain use/stability [20:42] but i already use it w/ lubuntu in the tey without install moed and it works like a charm [20:43] just for being at a news site and scroll it or even read an article after clicking [20:44] using it live isn't a similar experience honestly [20:44] *try [20:44] +mode [20:44] that's called 'using it Live' [20:44] anyways to answer your original question, lubuntu is the lightest weight fully graphical solution, so yeah, use that [20:46] would you suggest i stick w/ live mode? [20:46] no, that's a worse solution because it uses a portion of your memory to run the entire operating system [20:46] would it be better ? [20:46] ok [20:47] if you have no shortage of hard drive space, you can make use of swap files to effectively increase your total memory [20:47] so that's a way in which the installed system woudl be better [20:48] the machine got 100GB of disk space and none of it I plan to use for anything [20:51] how do i do this thing you said? [20:52] so 16.4 or 18.0? [20:52] get it installed first [20:52] oldest [20:53] crap, im almost done w/ 1801. Ok, I get 16.4. I already have 16.1 saved [20:54] 16.10* you mean [20:54] 16.1 is NOT 16.10 and doesn't actually exist :P [20:54] yes [20:54] (also 16.10 is way past End of Life so don't use it) [20:54] isn't 16.10 dead? [20:54] 16.04 [20:54] wxl: 16.10 is long since dead [20:54] 16.04 isn't dead yet [20:54] april [20:55] at least AFAIK (but for Lubuntu 16.04 support is pretty dead) [20:55] i mean, @tsimonq2 might have something to say about that statement but :p [20:55] *hides* [20:58] so I d better get 16.04.5 LTS but desktop32 desktop poewr Pc Alternate 32 or alternate power pc? [20:58] you're on a mac? [20:59] no [20:59] then not the power pc [20:59] alternate is smaller and uses less memory [20:59] ok, 32 or alternate? whats alternate? [21:00] another architecture that isnt 64 or 32? [21:00] it's a smaller installer [21:00] Altnerate is really low memory installer that is a different installer [21:01] i used to use slitaz what do you think of it? [21:02] wasn't that a slackware livecd distro? [21:02] also no one here runs 18.10 with a dark theme? [21:03] huh, wasn't slackware-based at all, looked it up out of mind refresh curiosity and i stand corrected [21:03] i guess so