| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I wish I could get one near me | 00:15 |
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| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> @RazPi, Great... Now I want one | 00:21 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @KMyers, Wat. None of my stuff is loading. Which one is causing all of the wanting? | 00:23 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> @Abrerr The hacked furby! The very last video | 00:30 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> So anyone have experience with personal websites? | 00:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> Yes | 00:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Like I'm putting together my own as I've mentioned, and I'm not actually sure the blog format is right for me | 00:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I was going to stuff my notes and small how-to's in a wiki so that part I'm sure I want | 00:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> My blog is only one part of my site | 00:56 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> There's more public facing content? | 00:58 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I was thinking of tracking my studying there | 00:58 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> My blog is https://kmyers.me/blog/ | 00:59 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Isn't that still blog format? | 00:59 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> That is but https://KMyers.me is not | 00:59 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Ooh | 00:59 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Hmm | 01:00 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I'm on the fence between WordPress and an old fashioned HTML/css page | 01:00 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Static | 01:00 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I'd also be doing a skin for it either way | 01:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> @RazPi, Yes | 01:30 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> @RazPi you might want to check WordPress and Drupal. They should both work on a raspberry pi. | 01:31 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> You should look at Apache server, and Google domains. | 01:32 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> If I were to start a website now, I'd rethink and just host it on my NAS. Because it's awesome and easy. | 01:32 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> But starting with an Apache standalone server, protecting with letsencrypt, and going from there should be the starting point. You can use proxy/reverse proxy configurations to host specific ports at mounting points or subdomain. I've become a wizard at it and I can share advice. | 01:35 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> And here's a standard website. | 01:38 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Once you can do a proxy and standard website, everything else is really simple. Just host whatever, wherever, whenever and assign it a location/subdomain. | 01:40 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> By whatever, whenever, I mean you can play with some random web apps and see what suits you best. | 01:42 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> @AdamOutler I was going to set up nginx inside of a freebsd jail with a pf firewall (considering nginx proxy to nginx server inside jail), I could definitely use analysis on that stack. I should have been more clear sorry, I meant, professionally, socially, I'm trying to figure out how to present the website and what to put on it, as I'm doing more self study in machine learning | 01:42 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Professional or personal site? | 01:44 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> If you want seriously professional, you can use Plesk. You can build and deploy websites in seconds. | 01:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> professional or both, I don't have enough content really to make it fully professional as I'm still in the learning phase, but I thought it might be a good idea to track my studies, research, and progress. I was going to use wikimedia to cite references, resources and post tutorials (not sure if this is better on a wiki or on a blog), and I just discovered docear has an online viewer | 01:46 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Ok. Maybe you want a few sites? Some subdomain.. | 01:47 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I could do a subdomain, I'll be putting it on digital ocean under http://aral.ai | 01:47 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Instead of "putting up a site".. grab a domain and play with it. Try some web apps. All of them transfer from text editors to website well. | 01:48 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> WordPress is bad for security. I recommend Drupal. | 01:48 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Also, take a look at jupyter. | 01:48 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> My deep learning course is using jupyter :o | 01:49 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> It's free, you can put up your own! | 01:49 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> @AdamOutler, I disagree - Drupal has suffered from several flaws as well. As long as you harden your WordPress, it can be very secure | 01:49 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> I put one up for all of 3 days before I removed it. I don't like Python enough. | 01:50 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> @KMyers, There are too many malware plugins for WordPress. | 01:50 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> People are finding out they had a plugin with malware for 5 years all the time | 01:50 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I was planning to jail and proxy the wordpress instance, put postgresql on another jail and connect to it via local loopback, and zfs lets you snapshot incrementally | 01:52 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Snap install works too. | 01:52 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Are you working on freebsd? | 01:53 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> yes, I had to put my desktop/laptop usage of it on hold because there was no clear path to machine learning on it, but it still works really well as a server | 01:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Docker would be my choice for installing. | 01:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I have sipped the docker kool-aid lately | 01:54 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> to install tensorflow with gpu support | 01:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> I just docker installed guacamole and collabora office. Both are notoriously difficult. Both were a snap. | 01:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> ohh thats handy | 01:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> A docker container.. not a snap. | 01:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> I am still torn with Docker but I guess I will eventually need to embrace it | 01:55 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> They also have a NextCloud docker. | 01:56 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Yeah, embrace it @KMyers it makes it simple. | 01:56 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> @AdamOutler, I am not one who normally likes Simple, I still like to build my stuff from source in many places | 01:56 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> I feel like docker is an excuse to reuse massive amounts of code and I had a bad feeling about it, but it works and it works well. | 01:56 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> @KMyers, Same, but I spent 2 weeks on collabora before spending 2 hours with docker. | 01:57 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Another advantage of docker is uninstalling. All the pieces are inside a neat container. | 01:58 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> I think the concept of snapping dockers together until you have a lego brick castle is a bit horrendous, but I like the idea of deploying a single docker-based build environment | 01:58 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> 1-2 dockers on a single purpose machine, sure I'll bite a little.. but 5-10 seems like we're just abusing the non-scarcity of computer resources at the cheap end, and causing a huge cost at the top end | 01:59 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> *scaling end | 01:59 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Docker works just like snaps do, but you can build on them. I have a MySQL docker, guacamole and collabora office docker. While I snapped NextCloud. NextCloud has it's own MySQL. Guacamole uses the MySQL docker. | 02:01 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> Does each container use its own kernel? Or do multiple containers use one main kernel? | 02:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Just attach ports to a docker container and you can export services between each one. | 02:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> They use your kernel in a jail. | 02:02 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> I will need to sit down with it soon, I keep trying to avoid it as I did not feel it was mature enough until lately. I understand how they work but I need to sit down and learn to manage them | 02:03 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> @RazPi, I do this | 02:09 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> https://caborym.duckdns.org/wiki/doku.php | 02:09 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> Hasn't been updated in years | 02:09 |
| floridagram-bot | <Abrerr> Guess I should renew my cert as well :0 | 02:09 |
| floridagram-bot | <KMyers> Yes, that would be a good idea | 02:10 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> @RazPi another thing.. try out everything but make sure to use basicauth to protect them. Put nothing except a redirect on port 80. On port 443 request a username and password basic authentication before you even show the page. That way only you, or someone who knows your password, can access the site. Unless you're absolutely sure of the software, basicauth all the way. HSTS is just part for the course. | 02:22 |
| floridagram-bot | <RazPi> What would I do if it was to be a public facing website? | 02:23 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Make sure you trust the software. I trust Apache, Jenkins, and a few other softwares. But most of the shit I run, like guacamole and collabora, was not built for security. | 02:24 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> It takes a small error to make a website do what you want instead of what it is supposed to to. | 02:25 |
| floridagram-bot | <AdamOutler> Try everything, but Password protect it. | 02:25 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <KMyers> I apologise in advance for what I am about to say | 23:17 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <KMyers> Hey @ghbd0wn - how did you get @Ivoriesablaze to pose for this photo? | 23:17 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <Ivoriesablaze> ... | 23:19 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <Ivoriesablaze> laugh while you can, sir | 23:19 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <KMyers> I could not help myself | 23:20 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <KMyers> BTW. There will be a cool giveaway at the next Ubuntu Meetup. A Google Home Mini | 23:20 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <EZRA1964> O nice | 23:21 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <Ivoriesablaze> do you just want to call next saturday a meetup? or do you want it more in advance? | 23:21 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <KMyers> @Ivoriesablaze, I was going to keep it separate so we can focus on planning | 23:22 |
| floridagram-bot6 | <Ivoriesablaze> gotcha | 23:22 |
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