=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
[14:09] <brainwash> bluesabre: this leftover is something which I notice every time when booting the live iso
[14:09] <brainwash> bluesabre: bug 1795216
[14:09] <ubottu> bug 1795216 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Hide empty panel in Xubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1795216
[14:11] <brainwash> I don't know if I have pinged Unit193 about this (other than subscribing him to the report)
[14:21] <brainwash> ochosi: why this? https://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc?id=7ef9ec768a3d4750c0d0b059ec116a39b790d7aa
[14:21] <brainwash> I am about to open a report to change it back to 10
[14:22] <brainwash> 9 makes the font look rather small, especially when you compare it to the overall desktop (apps, menus, etc.)
[14:23] <brainwash> this is another thing which I notice every single time, but did not bother to mention or report yet
[14:28] <brainwash> bug 1819466
[14:28] <ubottu> bug 1819466 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Increase Terminal font size" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819466
[21:05] <Unit193> SwissBot: rss show xfce4-announce 3
[21:05] <SwissBot> lemme fetch it...
[21:05] <SwissBot> using old data
[21:05] <SwissBot> Channel : Nabble - Xfce - Announce
[21:05] <SwissBot> 2019/02/28 10:00 :: ANNOUNCE: gigolo 0.4.91 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-gigolo-0-4-91-released-tp52681.html (by Landry Breuil-2)
[21:05] <SwissBot> 2019/02/26 17:34 :: ANNOUNCE: xfmpc 0.2.90 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfmpc-0-2-90-released-tp52676.html (by Andre Miranda)
[21:05] <SwissBot> 2019/02/24 10:51 :: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-calculator-plugin 0.7.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-calculator-plugin-0-7-0-released-tp52658.html (by Andre Miranda)
[21:06] <Unit193> https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce/2019-March/036317.html - https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce/2019-March/036318.html
[21:13] <ochosi> brainwash: afaict the default font size is also 9
[21:14] <ochosi> oh, sry, it's 10 https://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/tree/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml?id=7ef9ec768a3d4750c0d0b059ec116a39b790d7aa#n19
[21:14] <Unit193> If it won't anger QA, I can push the new screenshooter.
[21:14] <ochosi> +1
[21:14] <ochosi> screenshooter ftw
[21:17] <brainwash> ochosi: that's a +1 for terminal font size increase too then?
[21:18] <ochosi> i personally have the system font at 9 too, so...
[21:18] <ochosi> let's say it's a +1 for consistenc
[21:18] <ochosi> y
[21:18] <ochosi> not necessarily a +1 for size 9 ;)
[21:18] <brainwash> ohh
[21:19] <ochosi> i personally feel this type of decision should be taken by a teamvote with a quorum, not a single person
[21:19] <ochosi> unfortunately we haven't had team meetings in a whil
[21:19] <ochosi> e
[21:19] <ochosi> (i hope i'm not the one to blame regarding the lack of scheduling one)
[21:19] <brainwash> the teamvote would be needed for a global change
[21:19] <brainwash> this is for consistency mainly
[21:20] <ochosi> yeah, but i would put up the size 9 for a vote too
[21:20] <ochosi> so three options
[21:20] <ochosi> 1) size 10 everywhere
[21:20] <ochosi> 2) size 9 everywhere
[21:20] <ochosi> 3) leave as is
[21:20] <brainwash> 3 is a strange one :D
[21:21] <brainwash> I haven't tested 2) yet
[21:23] <ochosi> well 3 is for the conservatives and for the "don't care" electorate ;)
[21:23] <Unit193> I mean, I'm  the torch holder for cranky and I'd say 1 or 2 as well.
[21:26] <brainwash> Unit193: any comment on the ubiquity panel bug?
[21:27] <brainwash> it's a change mainly for aesthetics 
[21:28] <brainwash> unless an empty top panel adds extra beauty
[21:28] <Unit193> Not really, ochosi is the aesthetics guy.
[21:28] <ochosi> :>
[21:28] <ochosi> if we don't do anything with that panel i'd let it go i guess
[21:29] <ochosi> sucks a little that without indicator sound you cannot easily connect to wifi anymore in the ubiquity-only sessio
[21:29] <ochosi> n
[21:29] <ochosi> then again, i highly doubt the value of that session anyway...
[21:29] <Unit193> -application
[21:30] <brainwash> it allows the user to connect to wifi and install updates during the installation... or?
[21:30] <brainwash> maybe ubiquity window offers that too, dunno
[21:32] <brainwash> no one complained about it being gone though
[22:49] <Unit193> bluesabre: Right, so xfdesktop4, think we can slip it in?
[22:51] <Unit193> ochosi: [ubuntu/disco] xfce4-screenshooter 1.9.4-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)
[22:54] <ochosi> \o/
[22:54] <ochosi> xfdesktop would be nice too
[22:55] <brainwash> why is xfwm4 4.13 still missing?
[22:55] <Unit193> It's not missing?
[22:56] <brainwash> it's only in debian experimental
[22:56] <brainwash> but what is holding it back?
[23:01] <ochosi> there are some open issues in xfwm4 that are holding xfce 4.14. as a whole back
[23:02] <ochosi> so if it isn't alpha-ready according to the maintainer, i wouldn't wanna ship it