[02:49] <pieq> Hello! Looks like Staging Launchpad instance is having issues... "OpenID Provider Is Unavailable at This Time"
[03:06] <wgrant> pieq: Looking
[03:06] <wgrant> A cert seems to have expired
[03:45] <wgrant> pieq: Fixed
[03:55] <pieq> wgrant, thanks!
[13:51] <cmatsuoka> cjwatson, wgrant: I think most of the client-side implementation for remote snap builds is now in place, tested with my own account. did you have time to think or work on the special accounts for the testing phase?
[15:41] <cjwatson_> cmatsuoka: Not yet, no
[15:52] <cjwatson> cmatsuoka: We (now) have a card for it so won't forget, but there are a few other higher-priority things going on
[15:52] <cmatsuoka> cjwatson: ok, thanks, could you ping me when you have something?
[15:52] <cjwatson> Sure
[15:53] <cjwatson> cmatsuoka: But if you need it with any particular timeline then you probably need to talk with sparkiegeek
[15:53] <cjwatson> (or snap store team management, generally)
[15:57] <cmatsuoka> cjwatson: sergio wanted to merge remote builds in this cycle (finishing next week), so I'll check the possibilities with them
[15:58] <cjwatson> That's, er, ambitious
[15:59] <cmatsuoka> yes, I know
[16:01] <cmatsuoka> I'll ask him about the scenario and get a more realistic timeframe
[16:02] <cjwatson> It's not a huge job from the LP side, probably, I just have several other projects on the go
[16:04] <cmatsuoka> Yes, I understand
[16:43] <mgz> g 6
[16:43] <mgz> ...ignore me
[17:48] <acheronuk> Kubuntu Council launchpad mailing list https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council is suddenly getting PPA build failure emails from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas team PPAs
[17:48] <acheronuk> cjwatson: have you any idea why this would happen when it never did before?
[18:34] <cjwatson> acheronuk: Look at the email headers, specifically the ones starting with X-Launchpad-
[18:40] <acheronuk> cjwatson: X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale: Owner @kubuntu-ninjas
[18:40] <acheronuk> that?
[18:40] <acheronuk> Owner of the Team is Kubuntu developers though
[18:41] <cjwatson> acheronuk: Can I see the full headers?
[18:43] <acheronuk> cjwatson: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kpvRgv78KH/
[18:44] <cjwatson> acheronuk: Right, so that doesn't mean "because the recipient is the owner of ~kubuntu-ninjas", it means "because the owner of this archive is ~kubuntu-ninjas, and the recipient is a member of that team
[18:44] <cjwatson> "
[18:45] <acheronuk> cjwatson: yes, and Kubuntu Council has been a member of that team since 2014, so why do the emails start now in 2019?
[18:46] <cjwatson> acheronuk: I don't know; nothing has changed in this area of the code for a couple of years, as far as I'm aware
[18:46] <acheronuk> this is why I'm puzzled
[18:47] <acheronuk> maybe I should remove the Council from that team, and add members of the council individually to Ninjas if the qualify
[18:48] <cjwatson> To my mind the question isn't so much why that list is getting emails now, as why it wasn't before
[18:49] <acheronuk> cjwatson: fair point I guess
[18:52] <cjwatson> Unless those emails have gone through moderation and moderation practices have changed.  I can't tell because your paste doesn't include the Received headers
[18:53] <cjwatson> Otherwise I can't see a reason for the change at the moment
[18:55] <acheronuk> pretty sure no one moderated those and they went straight through