[08:57] <sil2100> xnox: hey! I was wondering about the SRU for LP: #1740894 - the bug mentions some systemd changes needed to be cherry-picked for everything to work nicely
[08:58] <sil2100> xnox: do you know if those changes landed in bionic already?
[09:51] <acheronuk> doko: oh. re clazy, looks like autotests failed with new llvm defaults and clang 8. that explains that!
[09:51] <acheronuk> should have thought to look at that yesterday
[09:52] <kstenerud> Is there a way to download specific versions of a package from command line? For example, download bash .deb file from xenial-security and bionic-updates to compare the two
[12:05] <ddstreet> Unit193 yeah, as soon as buster is released i'll start pushing into the git repo.  I also want to create new unit tests before i push all my changes.
[12:16] <rbasak> kstenerud: you can use chdist with apt-get -s
[12:16] <rbasak> kstenerud: what I usually do though is grab the dsc URL using Launchpad's web UI and then use dget
[14:27] <juliank> poa4/trusty is switching back and forth between <manref section=\"8\" name=\"apt-get\"> and <manref name=\"apt-get\" section=\"8\"> when parsing apt's guide.sgml into apt-doc.pot - fun
[14:27] <juliank> :)
[14:32] <ddstreet> kstenerud re: getting specific pkg version debs, use pull-lp-debs (from ppa:ddstreet/ubuntu-dev-tools)
[14:33] <kstenerud> oh cool!
[14:33] <ddstreet> for unreleased xenial-security, use pull-ppa-debs
[14:50] <ahasenack> doko: are we good on the samba py3 stuff? I have some lintian warnings to fix, and of course update to the final release if that comes out in time
[15:10] <doko> ahasenack: I didn't see any issues yet. thanks for these updates
[15:11] <ahasenack> ok
[16:11] <juliank> seb128, Laney can you change sound output/input in gnome-control-center? Does not seem to do anything for me
[16:11] <juliank> in disco
[16:12] <seb128> juliank, bug #1817338 ?
[16:12] <juliank> It changes the device to control volume on, but it does not reroute devices
[16:12] <juliank> possibly
[16:12] <juliank> sounds like it, yeah
[16:12] <juliank> I'm using paprefs as a workaround
[16:12] <juliank> um pavu
[16:13] <juliank> pavucontrol
[16:13] <juliank> ...
[16:13] <Laney> we should assign that one to robert_ancell
[16:13] <juliank> In my case, I have multiple devices and output configurations; a DAC, HDMI, Speakers
[16:13] <juliank> it is, Laney
[16:14] <Laney> then it should be in hand
[16:14] <Laney> but thanks for raising
[16:14] <juliank> good, I just did not find the bug myself :)
[16:15] <Laney> :>
[19:05] <Wafficus> Hello, question regarding AutoPiloy. i was told this was the automation qa tool used upstream by the ubuntu dev team. I help out with the Lubuntu team and am wondering what would be the process of actually using rhis same tool for regreasion testing alongside automating tbe lrkcess?
[19:05] <Wafficus> *process
[19:05] <Wafficus> *Autopilot
[19:06] <Wafficus> *regression
[19:06] <sarnold> don't forget *this   :)
[19:06]  * sarnold runs
[19:14] <Wafficus> haha you got me there. its hsrd etiting this in a small window
[19:14] <Wafficus> hard*
[19:16] <sarnold> you don't need to bother unless the typo would make it too difficult for someone to understand
[19:28] <Wafficus> right
[19:28] <Wafficus> so does anyone know anything regarding AutoPilot?
[20:14] <juliank> dbus libraries in / on their way to main, is there anything usable for low-level tools like apt?
[20:14] <juliank> There is libdbus but from what I heard it's rather complicated to use
[20:14] <juliank> systemd's library is nice and might be an option depending on the scope of the use
[20:15] <juliank> I'm considering two parts: (1) Having apt set systemd shutdown inhibitors (2) having apt provide a daemon for apt clients
[20:15] <juliank> (1) can be using systemd's library, duh
[20:15] <seb128> juliank, use gdbus from glib?
[20:15] <sarnold> I think I like 1, but why 2?
[20:16] <juliank> (2) might be d-bus or json-rpc over socket, reusing the same protocol as we (want to ) have for hooks
[20:16] <juliank> sarnold: Sketching out the post-PackageKit-society
[20:17] <juliank> seb128:  hmm, gdbus is probably a good choice
[20:18] <seb128> juliank, it's probably the best dbus library around and it's well maintained
[20:35] <seb128> bdmurray_, hey, do you have any idea why most of nautilus reports on the e.u.c/disco weekly view have no symbols? e.g https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/d434a8139dce4cd6e987c0a1c124a1bc77ddc2fe