[00:00] <lynorian> both don't work?
[00:01] <guiverc> nope, sony v??o ultra & thinkpad x201 both fail, sony has no ethernet, but x201 connection.info box is ALL BLANK, ie. not even showing the eth0 info (which isn't connected yet, i haven't found cable yet)
[00:03] <guiverc> with ethernet connected, connection info does show enp0s25 port..  (no longer blank)
[00:11] <lynorian> tsimonq2: ssl error on going to manual.lubuntu.me
 @guiverc [<guiverc> fyi:  19.04 qa-test on ultrabook, and cannot connect to wifi (haven't …], Is this on the install or live? Live is working for me. Installing now.
[00:13] <guiverc> live only
 @lynorian [<lynorian> tsimonq2: ssl error on going to manual.lubuntu.me], Yeah, it's not done yet
 @teward001 can I get a container for manual. please?
[00:24] <guiverc> Sorry, please ignore everything I've said - stupid user error I'm now pretty sure.. Apologies.
 No worries. Thanks for testing.
 last daily doesn't autologin in live
[00:26] <wxl> guiverc: you need me to kill the bug?
[00:26] <wxl> ^^ anyone else seeing the lack of autologin in live???
[00:27] <guiverc> i had autologin on x201 & sony thing (same thumbdrive, download ~hour ago)
[00:28] <wxl> pro tip: if you want to know the version of the daily iso you're on, look at the head of /etc/apt/sources.list in live
 Auto login worked fine for me.
[00:29] <guiverc> thanks wxl :)   
[00:29] <wxl> np :)
 mmm, maybe it's pointing an older iso
[00:30] <guiverc> as for bug, I've marked it invalid; wxl if you can kill it more so, please do.
[00:30] <wxl> that's good and killed guiverc thx :)
[00:31] <guiverc> 20190312 is ISO i'm using too
 ok 20190312 now
 about lxqt, printers, and other icons are black again sighs!
 they were ok las week
 pulseaudio icon is also diferent.
 I had that icon in august 2019
[00:49] <guiverc> wxl - changed bug title to "19.04 Lubuntu QA-Test - System isn't [user] IDIOT proof yet"  :)
 @tsimonq2 can I see a log to find out why the .desktop for additiona driver wasn't created?
 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main/view/head:/data/software-properties-drivers-qt.desktop.in
 that  one
 but tihis one was created: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main/view/head:/data/software-properties-qt.desktop.in
 @tsimonq2 will set one up
 i was out when yuo pinged sorry
 @tsimonq2 container deployed
 .26
 Thanks
 yep
 The Lubuntu Manual is back
 I asked @lynorian to use GitHub for now, until we get everything bootstrapped again
 @teward001 Could you do the SSL fun for it please?
 Glory to Arstotzka, that's one more thing that's back up!  *shot*
 Hah
 uhm... oopsies, it's not in the domain, regenerating cert from hell...
[17:38] <wxl> Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
 god do I love knowing the world.
 *summons evil to make certs work*
 @tsimonq2 cert expanded
 should just work ow
[17:40] <teward> *drags wxl out behind the barn*
[17:40] <wxl> whoa this is getting weird quickly
[17:40] <teward> *tosses wxl into the 30ft deep pit, then leaves him in there*
[17:51] <apt-ghetto> Do you have plans for march 31st?
 Does who? :)
 deep pits are not good for blameless postmortems
[17:53] <wxl> you mean cesar chavez day/international transgender day of visibility
[17:53] <wxl> or more importantly WORLD BACKUP DAY
[17:53] <apt-ghetto> http://www.worldbackupday.com/en
[17:53] <wxl> (not more importantly, more relevantly)
 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[17:53] <wxl> apparently also international drug checking day... strange
[17:56] <Eickmeyer> Huh. Lubot doesn't want to play nicely with animated gifs atm.
[17:56] <wxl> let's not forget shortly after is the first of three cthulhu days of the year.. april 2nd. join us to worship the old ones http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Cthulhu_Day
 @Eickmeyer [<Eickmeyer> Huh. Lubot doesn't want to play nicely with animated gifs atm.], Not yet
[18:06] <wxl> @lynorian: is there a recording of your presentation (with audio)??
[18:07] <lynorian> I don't think with audio
[18:07] <lynorian> my mic worked in the room but did not get sent to the stream
[18:07] <lynorian> my voice is a bit quiet
[18:09] <wxl> it didn't get sent or it got sent quietly?
[18:09] <wxl> if the latter, i could grab it and potentially boost it and repost it
 the audio didn't get sent but then my Q&A did
[18:09] <wxl> aw hell, that sucks.
[18:09] <wxl> maybe we should post your slides + the Q&A then
 And photos!
 It will be more compelling
[18:15] <wxl> yeah
[18:44] <lynorian> wxl don't trying watching that whole stream at 100% either some of it got way too loud
[18:45] <wxl> lynorian: you'd think they'd have figure out the sound by then
[20:37] <wxl> so i just booted the daily and i see this user-home.desktop.74FTYZ file on the desktop. wth is that?
 It wasn't there yesterday.
[20:38] <wxl> can you confirm?
[20:38] <wxl> for today i mean?
 I will when I get home. In transit now.
[20:39] <wxl> np
 I can confirm
[20:46] <wxl> wth is that about
[21:00] <wxl> if anyone can give this attention and further confirmation, i'd appreciate it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/trojita/+bug/1797665
 wxl: do I just need to boot Lubuntu and test with trojita or something?  Or is that the default email client?  I keep forgetting what is because Simon doens't update docs :P
[21:19] <wxl> it's the default email client
[21:19] <wxl> theoretically it should act similar on other DEs/distros/flavors but..
[21:20] <wxl> actually come to think of it i'll get kubuntu on this, too
 Disco+ or would Bionic have that as default too?  I don't want to redownload the ISO xD
[21:20] <wxl> cosmic+
 ok
 i have a disco daily :P
 might test that
[21:20] <wxl> there ya go
[21:21] <wxl> i just repro'd in it
 *loads his MASSIVE inbox*
 I haven't tested it in a bit but I have it all set up on one of my machines and can give it a go again.
[22:37] <wxl> TIL cmake is on the live cd. weird.
[22:46] <kc2bez> wxl: @tsimonq2 where did you see the weird desktop file? On the live iso or install? I wasn't able to find it on my physical machine.
[22:46] <wxl> on live
 on the desktop?
[22:47] <wxl> @lynorian: yep
[22:47] <wxl> what's weird is i was doing something with a live cd and looked at the desktop and it wasn't there, so i don't know if it's ephemeral or what
[22:47] <lynorian> I think I saw that but have not teted recently sorry for not filing a bug
[22:48] <wxl> np
[22:48] <wxl> i'm trying to track down this trojita thing more (and working) so haven't bothered digging any deeper
 No worries. I can try a VM too.
[22:49] <wxl> btw dan did i read your comment correctly that you couldn't reproduce the trojita bug with 10-14 emails?
[22:49] <wxl> (or rather do i interpret it correctly)
 I guess I wasn't clear apologies. It took at least 15 so yeah 10-14 was still good (no segfault)
[22:51] <wxl> strange
[22:52] <wxl> cuz i actually incremented up to 10 and it was right at 10 where it did it for me
 It is strange. I will make another comment (I should have included it). It is a physical machine (laptop) with 8gig of RAM.
[22:54] <wxl> i'm testing on a vm so it might be related to memory
[22:55] <lynorian> to be fair aren't all segmentation faults releated to memory
[22:55] <wxl> i guess what i mean is that the number of emails required to cause the problem might be proportional to the amount of available memory
[22:57] <wxl> lynorian: i mean it's always related in some way or another to memory, right?
[22:58] <lynorian> yes
[22:59] <wxl> on the kde bug they suggested using asan which i've never done before
[23:17] <wxl> ugh i installed and now i'm having trouble reproducing
[23:17] <wxl> i can always reproduce in live
 +1
[23:21] <wxl> finally got it to go
[23:22] <lynorian> what is asan
[23:22] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AddressSanitizer
[23:22] <wxl> tl;dr it detects memory corruption bugs
[23:22] <wxl> it's in clang and gcc
 Anyone notice a longer than usual hang time from login screen ? It seems to unusually long before im in. Not crazy long but def not what I've seen w heavier systems. Just curious.
 Its on our church machine so I'll get exact time when I'm there but I didnt see a bug listed but wanted to inquire here before i do
[23:29] <wxl> you mean on the daily or something?
 longer than usual hang time can happen due to unrelated things (hardware age for instance)
 (just making that known :P)
[23:34] <kc2bez> wxl: I had to increase my folder to 17 messages on my Ryzen 7 with 32Gig
[23:34] <kc2bez> Still had a segfault though.
[23:34] <wxl> i bet it's based on the size of the mailbox rather than the number of messages per se
[23:34] <teward> FWIW I'm zsyncing a daily ISO at the moment
[23:34] <teward> and going to test with my fairly LARGE mailbox
[23:34] <wxl> i'm TRYING to use asan. i'm sort of poking at it and seeing if i can get it to work
[23:35] <teward> wxl: i'm going to set my debug ulimit to unlimited, get the coredump, and then run that through gcc
[23:35] <teward> see if I can't track it down :P
[23:35] <teward> welcome to debugger land xD
[23:35] <wxl> yepp