| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:57 |
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| jibel | Salut oSoMoN, ça va? | 08:00 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel | 08:03 |
| oSoMoN | bien dormi, donc ça va :) et toi? | 08:03 |
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| jibel | oSoMoN, bien bien merci | 08:09 |
| duflu | Salut oSoMoN, jibel | 08:15 |
| oSoMoN | salut duflu | 08:15 |
| oSoMoN | making French the default language in Ubuntu, one step at a time… | 08:16 |
| duflu | jibel, would we have stats on language prefs? | 08:24 |
| * duflu isn't suggesting changing the default but is just curious | 08:25 | |
| jibel | Hi duflu | 08:30 |
| jibel | yes we do | 08:30 |
| duflu | Oh, yes, https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics | 08:30 |
| jibel | IIRC it's published somewhere on ubuntu.com | 08:30 |
| jibel | yes this one | 08:31 |
| clobrano | good morning o/ | 08:32 |
| duflu | Morning clobrano | 08:33 |
| clobrano | :) it looks like Italians are not Ubuntu enough :( | 08:33 |
| willcooke | morning jibel duflu clobrano | 08:38 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke | 08:39 |
| duflu | clobrano, I wonder when that value is sampled? Maybe people change languages later if they're comfortable with an English installation process | 08:39 |
| oSoMoN | good morning clobrano, willcooke | 08:41 |
| willcooke | hi oSoMoN | 08:43 |
| clobrano | duflu: indeed, in fact I always use english language :D | 08:47 |
| clobrano | duflu: but users from Italy are 2.8%, while italian language is 2%, so quite close (unless language percentage is rounded) | 08:48 |
| jibel | Hi willcooke | 08:56 |
| jibel | duflu, it's a installation time, we have no way to know when then poeple change languages | 08:57 |
| Laney | ello | 09:02 |
| seb128 | good morning Laney & desktopers | 09:04 |
| willcooke | hi seb128 | 09:04 |
| willcooke | hi Laney | 09:04 |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 09:06 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke, how are you? | 09:06 |
| duflu | And good morning seb128 | 09:07 |
| willcooke | hi seb128, sleepy today. Trying to debug that snaps in the image issue until too late. Drew a blank though | 09:07 |
| seb128 | hey duflu | 09:07 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, the snappy team should really own that one and do an installer themself imho, proxy debug doesn't make sense if they could trigger it locally | 09:08 |
| willcooke | yeah thats what we've said now | 09:08 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, jbicha, unsure who maintains the glade-master snaps but the list got a build failure 'cp: cannot stat '../src/data/icons/hicolor/256x256/apps/glade.png': No such file or directory' | 09:14 |
| seb128 | bigon, hey, do you have any idea about the firewalld autopkgtest current failures (in the ebtables test), see https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-disco/disco/amd64/f/firewalld/20190212_123707_5a319@/log.gz | 10:50 |
| seb128 | unsure if I read the log correctly but | 10:50 |
| seb128 | --p IPv6 --ip6-proto udp --ip6-sport ! 12345 -j DROP | 10:50 |
| seb128 | +-p IPv6 --ip6-proto udp ! --ip6-sport 12345 -j DROP | 10:50 |
| seb128 | is that just an order or argument issue? | 10:50 |
| seb128 | bigon, could be https://github.com/firewalld/firewalld/issues/469 I guess | 11:00 |
| gitbot | firewalld issue 469 in firewalld "firewall-cmd --reload fails on debian buster with nft" [Closed] | 11:00 |
| seb128 | ignore that, this one was in a previous log and fixed in current try | 11:24 |
| seb128 | bigon, k, I think I see what the problem is, ipset needs to be updated for the new kernel, going to poke at that | 11:31 |
| Laney | seb128: does that fix the 63 test too? | 11:33 |
| seb128 | 63? | 11:33 |
| seb128 | ah | 11:33 |
| seb128 | probably not | 11:34 |
| Laney | got a new kernel i guess? | 11:35 |
| seb128 | yes, we got 5.0 when it started to fail | 11:35 |
| seb128 | which fixied the upstream bug I mentioned before | 11:35 |
| seb128 | but broke ipset | 11:35 |
| seb128 | and is also missing nf_nat_proto_gre apparently | 11:35 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: I believe I fixed the glade-amster snap mentioned above ^ | 11:42 |
| seb128 | hey jbicha, thx | 11:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, so yeah, https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/commit/?id=5cbabeec | 11:48 |
| * seb128 keeps poking | 11:49 | |
| Laney | good find | 11:52 |
| kenvandine | jbicha: thanks! Renamed icon again? | 13:15 |
| willcooke | clobrano, Someone raised a good point on the snapcraft forum: | 13:29 |
| willcooke | https://snapforum.s3.amazonaws.com/original/2X/6/6db33b0da7456be46210985f939a0e2040284e6b.jpg | 13:29 |
| willcooke | (well that's the image they were talking about) | 13:30 |
| willcooke | The icon on the launcher with an arrow pointing down, and the icon on the desktop with an arrow pointing up and right - do they same thing. | 13:30 |
| willcooke | Should we use the same icon / change the direction of the arrow | 13:30 |
| clobrano | willcooke: yep, we noticed that overlapping, but they haven't the same meaning | 13:31 |
| clobrano | willcooke: grey arrow is simply the symlink emblem | 13:31 |
| clobrano | is applied automatically to the icon | 13:32 |
| willcooke | ahhhh | 13:32 |
| willcooke | I see it now | 13:32 |
| clobrano | willcooke: we decided "no more fake emblems on icons" as well as "no more fake progress bar" :D | 13:33 |
| willcooke | so the overlay arrow will go away? | 13:33 |
| clobrano | I agree that's misleading | 13:33 |
| clobrano | I don't know if we have time, I think we need to redesign the icon | 13:34 |
| willcooke | np | 13:34 |
| clobrano | (time before UI freeze) | 13:34 |
| willcooke | not urgent | 13:34 |
| willcooke | it can wait IMO | 13:34 |
| clobrano | willcooke: okay | 13:34 |
| willcooke | thanks clobrano | 13:34 |
| clobrano | willcooke: I'll pass the info though, Stuart will be more than happy to fix it | 13:34 |
| willcooke | thank you! | 13:34 |
| clobrano | you're welcome | 13:35 |
| willcooke | Sorry to ping you about this, that's lazy of me | 13:35 |
| willcooke | but ya | 13:35 |
| willcooke | *ya know | 13:35 |
| willcooke | seb128, I found a bug in the slideshow. One of the screenshots says 2018 instead of 2019 | 13:38 |
| clobrano | willcooke: ahah, no problem, that's was easy | 13:39 |
| clobrano | *that was | 13:39 |
| willcooke | :) | 13:39 |
| jibel | tseliot, I proposed https://github.com/tseliot/ubuntu-drivers-common/pull/30 . I had to change the fake archive to teach it what are free/non-free packages. I ran it on amd64 and i386, let me know if it fails on other archs. | 13:52 |
| gitbot | tseliot issue (Pull request) 30 in ubuntu-drivers-common "Free only drivers" [Open] | 13:52 |
| jibel | tseliot, while I am on it are you interested in code validation tests and fixing code style? | 13:53 |
| willcooke | seb128, I pushed a new revision to my branch: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/revision/841 | 13:59 |
| willcooke | should I open a new bug about it? | 13:59 |
| seb128 | willcooke, don't bother about a new bug, I can just merge that | 14:12 |
| seb128 | hey kenvandine | 14:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, did you see my comments about gnome-characters yesterday evening? did that help or was that as much as you had laready figured out? | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | i haven't looked at it again | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | been trying to figure out this snapd issue | 14:17 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:18 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well, fc-list doesn't list noto emoji so it's down to that level at least | 14:18 |
| seb128 | (or I did my testing wrong) | 14:18 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, feel free to leave it to me if there is no hurry, I will resume that debug later or tomorrow | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | seb128: that would be great | 14:19 |
| seb128 | deal then :) | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | i probably won't get back to it today anyway | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | i have icon issues to deal with as well as stressing over this snapd issue :/ | 14:19 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell?! | 14:27 |
| willcooke | somone left their laptop on after the all hands | 14:37 |
| jdstrand | seb128: hey, I'm sorry to bother you. the new alt+tab behvior in disco, is that only in the ubuntu session or is it something I can play with in the gnome session? | 14:44 |
| jdstrand | maybe a dconf entry? | 14:44 |
| jdstrand | or a tweak? I didn't see it there. let me check that again | 14:45 |
| willcooke | jdstrand, you can change the key bindings | 14:50 |
| willcooke | or try super-tab for the original way | 14:50 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, we just inverted the keybinding for app and win switcher | 14:51 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, super-tab should give you the disco one in bionic/cosmic | 14:51 |
| willcooke | Settings -> Device -> Keyboard | 14:51 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, or you can change them as willcooke said | 14:51 |
| willcooke | look for app switcher and window switcher | 14:51 |
| jdstrand | hmm, they seem to do the same thing | 14:56 |
| * jdstrand looks at keybindings | 14:56 | |
| willcooke | jdstrand, out of interest - do you find disco to be "faster" than Bionic? | 14:57 |
| jdstrand | willcooke: it's been a while. I can say I have no complaints thus far. notifications was the most underperforming bit for me historically, cause I use aa-notify and do a lot of profiling so the apparmor denials would cue up in the hundreds or more | 14:58 |
| willcooke | jdstrand, got ya, thx | 15:02 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, bug #1813825 could you look at the duplex thing on the current comment? | 15:13 |
| ubot5 | bug 1813825 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) ""driverless" printer workflow has bad usability/ is partly broken" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1813825 | 15:13 |
| jdstrand | oh, weird, Switch Windows was listed as Disabled and Switch Applications as Super+Tab, but functionally Alt+Tab did the same thing | 15:14 |
| jdstrand | now I know how to adjust it so I'm good | 15:14 |
| willcooke | hm | 15:19 |
| willcooke | I assume you upgraded early jdstrand | 15:21 |
| willcooke | I'll need to check upgrades for that | 15:21 |
| tseliot | jibel: sure | 15:25 |
| jdstrand | willcooke: I upgraded as soon as I got home from Cape Town based on our conversation :) I didn't realize it was a simple keyboard shortcut. that's fine, it has been handy running disco for other reasons | 15:32 |
| clobrano | for some reason tilix does not work with gtkinspector only on Ubuntu (tested on fedora, it works), does anyone have an idea why? | 15:35 |
| clobrano | uhm, nope it works sorry :) | 16:09 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 16:15 |
| willcooke | another problem fixed | 16:15 |
| clobrano | ahahah | 16:16 |
| willcooke | Toggling the over amplification knob makes the slider go from a round pointy bit to an arrow pointy bit. Is that expected? | 18:28 |
| willcooke | night all | 19:39 |
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