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meetingologyMeeting started Thu Mar 14 15:02:22 2019 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
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vorlon[TOPIC] Lightning round15:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
vorlon$ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)15:02
vorlonjuliank cyphermox bdmurray xnox waveform mwhudson tdaitx infinity sil2100 rbalint vorlon doko15:02
juliankone sec15:02
juliankLet's do the daily version:15:02
juliankFri:15:03
juliank * apt:15:03
juliank  * 1.8.0 release15:03
juliank  * cherry-picking of the new fixes from 1.8.0 to stable branches15:03
juliank  * merging translations down the branches (1.8->1.7->1.6->1.2->trusty)15:03
juliank    - probably should do 1.6->1.4 then 1.4->1.2, though.15:03
juliankMon:15:03
juliank * apt 1.7.4 and 1.6.30 stable release updates15:03
juliank * python-apt 1.8.4 release, fixing a few locking bugs15:03
juliankTue:15:03
juliank * apt 1.2.31 and 1.0.1ubuntu2.22 stable release updates15:03
juliankWed:15:03
juliank * Updated socket-activated debconf client helper for PackageKit (https://github.com/hughsie/PackageKit/pull/289)15:03
juliank * some trello card splitting15:03
juliankThu:15:03
juliank * Investigated ubuntu-drivers for aptdaemon usage -> only in tests15:03
juliank * Merged minimize-manual for live-cdrootfs/bionic15:03
juliank * Discussed private ppa support for add-apt-repository with ddstreet and cjwatson (bug 645404)15:03
ubottubug 645404 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Support Private PPAs" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64540415:03
juliank * More work on ESM UX15:03
juliank(done)15:03
cyphermoxgrub2 uploaded for adding the http module to EFI binary + plymouth fixes15:03
cyphermoxpreparing grub2 SRUs for http module, debconf prompts15:04
cyphermoxcleaning up / revising the packageset update script for the DMB15:04
cyphermoxdebugging netplan.io autopkgtests: wifi tests failing on some architectures (on purpose), etc.15:04
cyphermoxprepared and uploaded netplan.io SRUs for bionic, cosmic (now in queue)15:04
cyphermox(done)15:04
bdmurrayresearch into how to use prometheus client for the Error Tracker15:04
bdmurraydiscussed with IS using a script to convert json instead15:04
bdmurrayworked on conversion of an ET cronjob from pycassa to python cassandra15:04
bdmurraysearched for a gdb patch for bug LP: #181891815:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818918 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb doesn't search in debug-file-directory for .gnu_debugaltlink" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181891815:04
bdmurrayreported ET bug re long LP bug titles (LP: #1819199)15:04
bdmurrayreported apport bug re gdbsandbox and libc6 (LP: #1819230)15:04
bdmurrayreview and merge of azzar1's fix for LP: #181642315:04
bdmurrayworked on lintian issues with ubuntu-release-upgrader15:04
bdmurrayreuploaded distro-info for C and T with proper deps15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1819199 in Errors "bug creator can create very long bug titles" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181919915:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1819230 in Apport "gdb sandbox creation should use report's libc6 version" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181923015:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1816423 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Tells you that livepatch will be disabled when it wasn't enabled before" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181642315:04
bdmurraydone15:04
bdmurrayxnox:15:04
xnox* Fix up LP: #180584115:04
xnox* Completed LP: #1766865 for LUKS2/partman-crypto15:04
xnox* Fixing up MAAS images for LUKS2 LP: #181887615:04
xnox* Upstreaming s390-tools fixes for zkey LUKS215:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1805841 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "CPI information about kvm usage is lost during apt upgrade" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180584115:04
xnox* Worked on15:04
xnox  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/atlas/+bug/1814796 to get15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1766865 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[19.04 FEAT] Installer support for protected key dm-crypt" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176686515:04
xnox  to incomplete state, the provided patches FTBFS15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818876 in maas-images "maas images lack enough of crypto for cryptsetup in the ephemeral images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181887615:04
xnox* Worked on15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1814796 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[19.04 FEAT] Provide optimized libatlas libraries for different types of z Systems" [Medium,Incomplete]15:05
xnox  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/1817097 to15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1817097 in lvm2 "pvmove causes file system corruption without notice upon move from 512 -> 4096 logical block size devices" [Medium,Confirmed]15:05
xnox  incomplete state, actually not critical, well-known, provided15:05
xnox  workaround15:05
xnox* There are no outstanding foundations actionable items requested by15:05
xnox  IBM for s390x for disco15:05
xnox= Blocked =15:05
xnox* Responded to the OpenSSL SRU questions, awaiting for openssl to be accepted15:05
xnox  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/179738615:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1797386 in openssl (Ubuntu) "[SRU] OpenSSL 1.1.1 to 18.04 LTS" [Undecided,In progress]15:05
xnox* Parter upload in unapproved15:05
xnoxhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=ibm-java8015:05
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibm-java71/+bug/181879915:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818799 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[Comm] IBM JDK 8.0.5.30 integration into Ubuntu" [High,In progress]15:05
xnox= Bugs to review =15:05
xnox* multipath bug (out of my breadth, maybe cpa)15:05
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/multipath-tools/+bug/181559915:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1815599 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu) "multipath shows '#:#:#:#' for iscsi device after error injection" [Undecided,New]15:05
xnox* cryptsetup decrease memory requirement from 1GB to something tolarable15:05
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/182004915:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1820049 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "cryptsetup 2.1.0 requires excessive amount of RAM ( 1GB ) to luksOpen encrypted drives" [Undecided,New]15:05
xnoxdone15:05
* sil2100 pokes waveform 15:06
waveform* Finished pi "amazing" spec; in for review15:07
waveform* Moving RPi patches from livecd-rootfs to linux-firmware-raspi2 (needs review)15:07
waveform* SRU for RPi.GPIO to bionic / cosmic15:07
waveform* Upgraded wiringPi package to 2.50 version15:07
gaughenwaveform, it's Pi day!15:07
waveform* Testing of pi-bluetooth package on Pi3B, 3B+, (need to do 3A+) under arm64 (need to verify armhf)15:07
waveform* Investigating integration of pi-bluetooth fixes into ubuntu core15:07
waveform* More reading on ARM trustzone15:07
waveform(done)15:07
tdaitx* openjdk-11 bionic security transition15:07
tdaitx  - reviewed & uploaded packages15:07
tdaitx  - bumped & rebuild arch specific packages for cosmic15:07
tdaitx  - prepared openjdk-11 upload for cosmic15:07
tdaitx* ant fix for mrjar LP: #180838315:07
tdaitx* unable to reproduce sweethome3d menu bug (chroot & qemu) LP: #181679115:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1808383 in ant (Ubuntu Disco) "Java 9+ multi-release jars are not supported in ant tasks" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180838315:07
tdaitx(done)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1816791 in sweethome3d (Ubuntu) "18.04 backport doesn't properly display menu entries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181679115:07
sil2100- Friday: out-of-office15:07
sil2100- A very long and busy DMB meeting15:07
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:07
sil2100- New kernel cycle starting15:07
sil2100- Help with package copies for OpenJDK-11 bionic/cosmic15:07
sil2100- Reviewing Steve's ubuntu-cdimage clean-up branch (first step)15:07
sil2100- core1815:08
sil2100  * Started cleanup in gadget branch permissions (again)15:08
sil2100  * Released new core1815:08
sil2100  * Prepared updates for gadgets15:08
sil2100- Packaging the WALA security fix and testing the packages + coordination15:08
sil2100- Booking for the release sprint15:08
sil2100- Addressing Laney's review concerns in the ADT-regression bug notifier15:08
sil2100(done)15:08
rbalint* added detecting wsl to systemd-detect-virt https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/1193215:08
rbalint* fixed libcec ftbfs with 4.0.4+dfsg1-2 via Debian15:08
rbalint* uploaded wireshark 3.0.0 to experimental (in NEW now)15:08
rbalint* tested reboot speed cycles on an old laptop15:08
rbalint  - suggested using dbus for reboot since sudo reboot bypasses inhibitor locks15:08
rbalint* verified many SRU-d unattended-upgrades bugs for Xenial15:08
rbalint* partner work15:08
rbalint(done)15:08
bdmurrayvorlon:15:09
vorlon * reverting resolvconf SRU due to regressions (LP: #1819625)15:09
vorlon * TB work15:09
vorlon * more trusty ESM transition discussions15:09
vorlon * plotting around secureboot policy transition and FIPS kernels15:09
vorlon * looking at a possible regression in trusty that may be the kernel refusing to load kernel modules signed with a key it doesn't know, while loading completely unsigned kernels (LP: #1818134)15:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1819625 in resolvconf (Ubuntu) "Package resolvconf=1.79ubuntu10.18.04.1 broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181962515:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1818134 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'wl': Package not installed ubuntu14.04.5LTS kernel 3.13.0-165-generic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181813415:09
vorlon * debian-cd, cdimage MPs for the desktop team (multilayer squashfs and canary image)15:09
vorlon(done)15:10
vorlondoko:15:10
bdmurrayvorlon: so no doko?15:13
vorlonguess not15:13
vorlonany questions over status?15:13
* juliank has gone sightly mad15:14
vorlonxnox: on openssl, did you put your response in the SRU bug template?15:15
bdmurrayvorlon: none here15:16
dokoohh, US summer time?15:16
bdmurraydoko: yeah15:16
dokosorry, didn't prepare. but still doing openjdk-11 backports15:17
vorlonok15:17
vorlon#topic Bugs15:17
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs
bdmurraybug 1818953 was assigned to our team15:17
ubottubug 1818953 in perl (Ubuntu Disco) "mblen() failing in Perl / Perl core dumping core on UBUNTU 19.04 by executing perl script, multiple architectures" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181895315:17
vorlon[LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:17
xnoxthere is a patch proposed by debina developer15:17
* vorlon nods15:17
xnoxif no traction there, will upload into ubuntu15:17
bdmurrayxnox: so should you be the assignee?15:18
xnoxsure15:18
vorlonthere is a trello card as well for it15:18
vorlonI don't know if infinity took it, we discussed it this week15:19
bdmurraythe card has his symbol15:19
vorlonxnox: ^^15:19
vorlonbdmurray: other bugs?15:19
bdmurraybug 181942715:20
ubottubug 1819427 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Disco daily install doens't include the snaps" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181942715:20
xnoxi am sure both infinity and I would love to just sync it, out of debian15:20
vorlonxnox: that's fine, but whoever does it, please close out the card so I don't have to look at it again ;)15:20
xnoxbdmurray, i thought some desktopy people mentioned that they are working on it.15:20
seb128that snap/daily install has been actively looked at by Ken/Will with the snap team and has been handed to the snapd team for investigation now since it looks like a bug on their side15:21
xnoxbdmurray, and strictly not a regression, rather never enabled.15:21
xnoxseb128, oh, ok, thanks.15:21
bdmurrayseb128: should there be another task then?15:21
seb128xnox, that bug is not about the manifest, it's about the target system missing the seeded snap15:21
seb128snaps15:21
vorlondoko: what was never enabled?15:21
vorlonindeed15:22
xnoxinteresting15:22
vorlonand anyway it doesn't look like a ubiquity bug based on the discussion15:22
seb128bdmurray, probably, I was waiting for them to figure out the details to triage/Reassign as appropriate15:22
xnoxvorlon, listing snaps in desktop.iso's manifest15:22
seb128xnox, that's bug #1819287 and didrocks is looking at it15:22
ubottubug 1819287 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "snaps missing from manifests of daily desktop images" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181928715:22
bdmurrayother than ogra's comment its not clear its been handed off15:23
vorlonit's being worked through the forum currently15:23
vorlonI don't believe it's for Foundations to drive15:23
vorlonmaybe assign the bug to chipaca15:23
seb128(+1 for that)15:24
vorlonit should be targeted to disco for sure, but unless snap team identifies something in livecd-rootfs, it's not-for-us15:25
gaughenvorlon, sounds like we should raise it to the snapd team15:25
seb128it's being discussed atm on #snappy, I don't believe there is action needed on those issues15:25
bdmurrayOkay should we move on then?15:26
vorlonyes please15:26
bdmurrayDoes bug 1396160 seem worth fixing for disco?15:26
ubottubug 1396160 in apport (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/recoverable_problem:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/recoverable_problem@75:main:add_proc_info" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139616015:26
bdmurrayhttps://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/72c621876cfe04b51b37f8f3ef08c3da0460b462 is the most recent errors bucket15:26
vorlonbdmurray: are you proposing it because it's currently the spammiest crash for us?15:28
vorlonif so then +115:28
bdmurrayWell, that and its a bad user experience getting the crash dialog for no reason. It came up because I hit it too.15:28
bdmurrayLast one, bug 1816812. What is this even about? It doesn't seem very helpful.15:29
ubottubug 1816812 in systemd (Ubuntu Disco) "pull seb patch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181681215:29
vorlonbdmurray: right, but we know how many users the spurious dialog is affecting by how many reports we get :)15:30
seb128all gnome-classic and unity users have their logout not working15:30
seb128or rather timeouting and taking ages15:30
xnoxsigh15:31
seb128https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/11697 has the details15:31
xnoxack15:31
seb128and it's a pretty simple patch15:31
seb128please just backport it :)15:31
xnoxi think the solution is to merge the bugfix release v241 into disco15:31
vorlonwhat could go wrong15:31
xnoxcause our disco systemd is now v240,7115:31
xnoxgiven the number of patches we have15:31
vorlonxnox: I don't think we need to micromanage the resolution :) do you agree that we need to get this bug fixed for disco?15:32
xnoxyeah15:32
vorlonok. it's targeted, and I'll create a card for it that you can mangle to taste after15:32
seb128can I ask a rls-bug question/raise a point before you guys move to another topic? or is this meeting not the right venue? (I'm happy to email or go the appropriate way)15:33
vorlonseb128: go ahead15:33
seb128my understand of the process was that rls-<nn>-incoming list should be regularly reviewed and driven to 0 by acception or -notfixing things15:33
seb128but the foundations list has items sitting in place for months15:34
seb128so I'm unsure if it means we should escalade problems by some other mean?15:34
seb128e.g bug #1817453 is concerning desktop for the incoming release15:34
ubottubug 1817453 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "19.04 installer displays keyboard layouts in the wrong language" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181745315:34
seb128but doesn't seem to get reviewed15:34
* xnox doesn't desktop own ubiquity?!15:34
* seb128 slaps xnox15:35
vorlon /kick xnox15:35
sil2100;)15:35
vorlonbdmurray: have you triaged this bug in some other manner?15:35
seb128that's recent-ish15:35
seb128bug things like bug #1802337 are on the list since novembre15:35
ubottubug 1802337 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Please apply security updates during Ubuntu install" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180233715:35
bdmurrayvorlon: no15:35
vorlonseb128: I think in general the volume is such that we don't get through the ones of medium or lower importance15:37
seb128k, good to know15:37
vorlonbut of course one of these you point out is high15:37
seb128right15:37
vorlonbdmurray: should we take LP: #1817453 now?15:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1817453 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "19.04 installer displays keyboard layouts in the wrong language" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181745315:37
cyphermoxseb128: keyboard layouts one is a regression, I'm reasonably sure15:37
bdmurrayvorlon: I think so15:38
seb128vorlon, well, looking at the report you have 1 critical and 6 high on the list15:38
cyphermoxheh, well, as per the bug obviously15:38
bdmurrayseb128: some of those are tagged and targetted so on both lists15:38
seb128the process is to tag -notfixing or target/untag though15:38
seb128items should never stay on -incoming if you respect that15:39
seb128(we drive our list for desktop to 0 every week and it works)15:39
juliankthe keyboard stuff sounds like an off-by-1 or something bug15:40
vorlonbdmurray: so do we agree to drive this to 0 in the future, for crit+high?15:40
seb128vorlon, anyway, I didn't want to derail your meeting too long, I think it would have value to have the list driven to 0, but I also note that usually it would happen for items > medium15:40
bdmurrayvorlon: sure15:41
vorlonok15:41
seb128thx!15:41
vorlonseb128: thanks for raising15:41
vorlon[TOPIC] proposed-migration15:41
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: proposed-migration
seb128np, thx for listening :)15:41
vorlon[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:41
vorlonthis is looking busier again15:41
vorloncyphermox: you have netplan.io in progress, right?15:41
cyphermoxyes15:41
vorlonxnox: you took fuse-zip last week; any progress?15:42
cyphermoxfinally figured a way to fix at least wifis15:42
xnoxvorlon, no progress, no15:42
gaughencyphermox, vorlon can we add that to the wiki page for running the meeting - regarding driving crit+high on incoming to zero15:42
gaughencyphermox, vorlon and can we start using that wiki page to run the meetings?15:43
vorlonif the wiki page is linked from an entry point ;)15:43
juliankum, rbalint, there are a lot of "apt_pkg.pkgsystem_unlock() failed due to not holding the lock but trying to continue" in the u-u test log15:44
vorlonxnox: are you going to work on it this week?15:44
xnoxyes15:44
vorlonok15:44
vorlondoko: you had claimed epsilon, I think?15:44
cjwatson15:44
rbalintjuliank, yes, this is a workaround for the lock being lost15:44
vorlon(python-scipy is no longer blocking things except for python-numpy, hurray for regressions in release)15:45
juliankrbalint: but i thought we fixed it so we don't lose it anymore15:45
gaughenvorlon, yes, we'll make that so #115:45
dokovorlon: yes, still on my list, didn't find the time yet15:45
vorlonok15:45
rbalintjuliank, i hoped, but then python-apt/apt still looses it15:45
rbalintjuliank, it seems15:45
rbalintjuliank, it think it became better15:45
vorlone2fsprogs is blocked by initramfs-tools, which is a false-positive, just needs rerun now that mwhudson and I have fixed busybox vs isc-dhcp client (have clicked the button now)15:46
vorlonbut also blocked by systemd/arm6415:46
vorlonxnox: ^^ ?15:46
rbalintjuliank, is it in disco?15:46
juliankyeah15:46
xnoxvorlon, lovely15:46
vorlonxnox: not lovely, racy15:46
xnoxvorlon, i had analysis pinged to me about arm64 from Laney, need to upload that.15:46
vorlonI've clicked that button now too15:46
vorlonok15:46
rbalintjuliank, at least if you see that now often it became more reproducible :-)15:47
vorlonpython-numpy + python-scipy, I don't know if we have a path forward on resolving that15:47
juliankrbalint: it's in the most recent autopkgtest logs where I see it15:47
vorlonwe've badtest'ed python-scipy in release, so maybe we should just do the same for the proposed version15:47
juliank657 messages like that in the latest15:48
* Laney fluffles xnox 15:48
vorlonfwiw Debian isn't shipping the new scipy or the new numpy yet15:49
juliankrbalint: this should not happen at all, it should be calling apt_pkg.pkgsystem_unlock_inner15:49
vorlonand lintian is the same issue as last time15:49
vorlonso I think that covers the p-m stuff that currently needs attention15:50
juliankso, somehow, u-u ends up getting an AttributeError on apt_pkg.pkgsystem_unlock_inner()15:50
rbalintjuliank, it used to work15:50
vorlonand juliank and rbalint are getting ahead on u-u + python-apt before the report marks it as 'late', +115:50
vorlon[TOPIC] AOB15:50
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
vorlonanything else?15:50
cjwatson(sorry for the noise, dodgy connection)15:51
juliankah, no, it's upgrading debian testing, that's not going to help :)15:52
juliankum, stable15:52
juliankdebian stable never got any of the frontend locking stuff or the locking fixes15:52
rbalintjuliank, it is upgrading snapshots, i'll move to newer snapshot points15:53
juliankwell, that won't help, as there are no fixes in later snapshots either :)15:54
rbalintjuliank, no fix in sid?15:54
juliankWell, yes, in sid15:54
juliankbut that looks like a install security updates in stable test?15:54
juliankmaybe I'm wrong15:54
rbalintwhich log are you looking at?15:54
juliankthe latest15:55
vorlonyou two can have the side conversation post-meeting ;)15:55
vorlon#endmeeting15:55
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | <wxl> be nice
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Mar 14 15:55:10 2019 UTC.15:55
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-03-14-15.02.moin.txt15:55
vorlonthanks, all15:55
* juliank -> #ubuntu-devel15:56
sil2100vorlon: thanks o/15:58
xnoxvorlon, updated the regression potential section of the openssl sru bug report.16:11

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